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UU.; obre su taller en Times Square y sus exhibiciones en la ciudad; sobre sus experiencias en Queens; y sobre el furor que ahora despierta su arte en redes sociales.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eAt their trusted diner, Café Luka (1317 1st Ave. A, New York), artists Miguel and Carlos Cevallos met with Mariado Martínez Pérez. They brought two albums with photographs and press clippings that would serve as a guide to review their personal and artistic legacy. Through this informal chat, the brothers talked about their beloved brother Victor Hugo, the “creator” of the posters that they now successfully design and commercialize; about their mum; about their childhood in Ecuador and Colombia; about their presentation tour across Central America before moving to the US; about their workshop in Times Square and their exhibitions across the city; about their time in Queens; and about the craze that their art is now experiencing in social media.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCC BY-NC-SA Contact digitalarchives@queenslibrary.org for research and reproduction requests.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["http://digitalarchives.queenslibrary.org/search/browse/44411"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2024-01-28 (created)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Carlos Cevallos (Interviewee)","Miguel Cevallos (Interviewee)","Mariado Martinez Perez (Interviewer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Coverage"]},"value":{"en":["1950s-2024 (temporal)","Astoria, Queens, NY; Manhattan, NY; Ecuador; Colombia (spatial)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["Spanish"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eEn su diner de confianza, Caf\u0026eacute; Luka (1317 1st Ave. A, New York), los artistas Miguel y Carlos Cevallos se re\u0026uacute;nen con Mariado Mart\u0026iacute;nez P\u0026eacute;rez. Han tra\u0026iacute;do dos \u0026aacute;lbumes con fotos y recortes de peri\u0026oacute;dico que servir\u0026aacute;n como gu\u0026iacute;a para repasar su legado personal y art\u0026iacute;stico. Durante la charla, los hermanos recuerdan a su querido hermano V\u0026iacute;ctor Hugo, el \u0026ldquo;creador\u0026rdquo; de los p\u0026oacute;sters que ahora ellos dise\u0026ntilde;an y comercializan exitosamente; sobre su madre; sobre su infancia en Ecuador y Colombia; sobre el tour de presentaci\u0026oacute;n que hicieron por Centro Am\u0026eacute;rica antes de mudarse a EE. UU.; obre su taller en Times Square y sus exhibiciones en la ciudad; sobre sus experiencias en Queens; y sobre el furor que ahora despierta su arte en redes sociales.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eAt their trusted diner, Caf\u0026eacute; Luka (1317 1st Ave. A, New York), artists Miguel and Carlos Cevallos met with Mariado Mart\u0026iacute;nez P\u0026eacute;rez. They brought two albums with photographs and press clippings that would serve as a guide to review their personal and artistic legacy. Through this informal chat, the brothers talked about their beloved brother Victor Hugo, the \u0026ldquo;creator\u0026rdquo; of the posters that they now successfully design and commercialize; about their mum; about their childhood in Ecuador and Colombia; about their presentation tour across Central America before moving to the US; about their workshop in Times Square and their exhibitions across the city; about their time in Queens; and about the craze that their art is now experiencing in social media.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCC BY-NC-SA Contact digitalarchives@queenslibrary.org for research and reproduction requests.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Queens Public Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Queens Public Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/010/original/Aviary_QPLlogo_192x192.png?1578574261","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/275/647/small/cevallos_carlos_miguel_20240128_portrait_resized.jpg?1748620668","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - cevallos_carlos_miguel_20240128_full.mp3"]},"duration":2015.16408,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/275/647/small/cevallos_carlos_miguel_20240128_portrait_resized.jpg?1748620668","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-queenslibrary.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/275/647/original/cevallos_carlos_miguel_20240128_full.mp3?1748620607","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2015.16408,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Spanish Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"*Sobre Aviram Cohen*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: En Queens, trabajábamos en Queens.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Nosotros trabajábamos en Queens pero vivíamos acá, y un día, yo iba mucho a un restaurante chino a comer. Cliente. Comía e iba a trabajar en su (…)\r\n\r\nMiguel: en un basement trabajábamos\r\n\r\nCarlos: me dicen “hay un señor que le está buscando a ustedes, americano”, digo “quién será”, “quiere conocerle a ustedes que hacen carteles para todos los bares”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=0.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: “Pues que venga”. Era el año 57, ¡perdón! 2017. Le digo “si, a la orden”, que quiere crear un trabajo para la señora, en un estudio de yoga, una academia de yoga allí en Queens. Y le hicimos el poster y ahí empezó la amistad","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=35.0,63.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: Ahí empezó\r\n\r\nCarlos: 77, 78, 79, uh, 80.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Luego vino la pandemia, cerramos. Mi amigo “no se preocupen”\r\n\r\nCarlos: No había trabajo, todos los bares cerrados.\r\n\r\nMiguel: “Yo trabajo por internet”\r\n\r\nCarlos: El llamó y dijo “no se preocupen, trabajo por internet”. Seguimos desde el 2020. Osea llevamos cinco años con él, sin parar, ni un día.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=63.0,94.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: Fíjate, que la pandemia podría haber sido como…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Algo increíble.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Hemos hecho miles de posters, o cientos.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Lo más importante que Aviram tiene muchas cualidades, mucho cariño, le gusta mucho el arte.\r\n \r\nCarlos: Él es dibujante, tiene talento como dibujante. Hace sketches.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Hace sketches muy bonitos. Él nos ha conseguido trabajo y hemos hecho posters.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Porque él trabaja en galerías y en museos. Tiene talento para el arte, le gusta.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Le gusta la pintura.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Entonces él salió y dijo “yo voy a hacerles mundiales a ustedes”. Y lo hizó, lo logró.\r\n\r\nMariado: Qué alegría.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Es extraordinario.\r\n\r\nMariado: Y qué suerte también.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Si, suerte, es verdad.\r\n\r\n*Sobre hermano, Víctor Hugo*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=94.0,157.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: Me encantaría saber, porque me has contado un poquito, claro tú eres el que se mudó primero…\r\n\r\nCarlos: Víctor\r\n\r\nMariado: Primero el hermano\r\n\r\nMiguel: Víctor Hugo\r\n\r\nCarlos: A él le debemos nosotros\r\n\r\nMiguel: A Víctor Hugo le debemos\r\n\r\nCarlos: Primero él, luego yo y luego vino él, nos trajo. Primero a mí, luego a él, a los tres. Estábamos bien unidos los tres hasta cuando falleció.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=157.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: El creador de los posters era Victor.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Él es el creador de eso\r\n\r\nMiguel: Tenía muchos clientes\r\n\r\nCarlos: Lo que hacemos ahora lo creó él, hace unos 35\r\n\r\nMiguel: Como falleció él, sigo yo como diseñador\r\n \r\nCarlos: Como La Loutre, ¿te acuerdas de La Loutre? En Francia, el era el Loutre de acá, creador de un sistema de posters diferente a lo que…para todos los eventos, tenía 60 clientes, Father’s Day, Mother’s Day… todo era creado por él. Éramos los tres, falleció él y ya conocía él [Aviram] todos los posters los tenía guardados, era un colector sin saber.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Es un genio, si, porque él guarda las cosas.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Todo lo que hay ahí era guardado por él\r\n\r\nMiguel: Yo me sorprendí, ¿de dónde los saco?, es increíble.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Él iba a los lugares y decía cuando los boten que se los den.\r\n\r\n*Sobre vida en Colombia*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=180.0,269.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: Voy a ir un poco para atrás, entonces, ¿dónde nacéis vosotros?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Ecuador.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Ecuador.\r\n\r\nMariado: Y os mudáis de muy pequeñitos a…\r\n\r\nMiguel: A Colombia.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Vino joven él, Victor Hugo.\r\n\r\nMariado: Entonces nacéis en Ecuador, de pequeñitos…\r\n\r\nCarlos: Fuimos a Colombia\r\n\r\nMiguel: Nos establecimos en Colombia\r\n\r\nMariado: Y allí cómo era, contadme de eso, ¿qué recordáis de allí?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Pusimos un taller, los muchachos, los tres. Estudiábamos, fuimos a estudiar bachillerato. Yo estudiaba bastante inglés y francés, todos los días, era un loco por el inglés.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=269.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: De chiquito, dale y dale.\r\n\r\nMiguel: De pequeño llevaba los libros debajo del brazo.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Maletines con discos.\r\n\r\nMariado: ¡Con discos! ¿Qué escuchabas?\r\n\r\nCarlos: 50 lecciones.\r\n \r\nMiguel: 50 lecciones.\r\n\r\nMariado: ¡Ah! Cuando has dicho discos, creí que era música!\r\n\r\nMiguel: Chiquitos.\r\n\r\nCarlos: No, discos de lecciones, de estudio, pequeñitos.\r\n\r\nMariado: De 45.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Si, de 45. Ahí estaba el inglés británico y el inglés americano\r\n\r\n*Sobre hermano, Víctor Hugo*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=310.0,341.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: Mi hermano que esta ahí, Víctor, era un genio para la caricatura. Hizo medio millón de caricaturas y recorrió todo Centroamérica.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Ya te hubiera hecho una caricatura a ti.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Panamá, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, Salvador, Guatemala y México. Ida y vuelta. Catorce países prácticamente.\r\n\r\nMariado: Pero esto es que ¿estabais los tres en Colombia? ¿Cuántos años teníais cuando fuisteis a Colombia?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Éramos muchachos de 12 años\r\n\r\nMiguel: Yo tenía 12. Terminamos en Colombia la primaria, la secundaria.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Todo.\r\n\r\nMiguel: La carrera intermedia que era de dibujo.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Antes de venir acá\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Los tres hicisteis arte?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Claro, estudiamos dibujo publicitario. Terminé el curso, fui a un curso un año y medio. Yo sé de dibujo.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Víctor nació con las caricaturas. Víctor desde niño era impresionante. Él a los seis meses, pintaba en la arena, hacía así…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Lo contaba mi mamá\r\n\r\nCarlos: De seis meses en la arena hacía cositas.\r\n \r\nMariado: Ósea que eso ya iba en…\r\n\r\nMiguel: En la sangre\r\n\r\n*Sobre el taller*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=341.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: Nació ya, el talento de él, tremendo (…) Mira, esto en Colmbia [apunta a fotografía]\r\n\r\nMiguel: En Colombia\r\n\r\nCarlos: En el taller que fundamos los tres hermanos.\r\n\r\nMariado: Aquí los tres…cuéntame un poco ¿qué hacíais allí? ¿cómo era?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Todo tipo de trabajos, cientos.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Arte comercial, al público.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Como esta valla [señala fotografía], era para un cliente…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Estos somos, preparando todo…\r\n\r\nCarlos: Llegó a tres mil quinientos clientes…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Muchos clientes\r\n\r\n*Sobre su mamá*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=413.0,454.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: Teníais el taller, y estabais los tres juntitos, ¿y luego?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Víctor vino acá\r\n\r\nMiguel: Víctor dijo “me vengo a Estados Unidos”\r\n\r\nCarlos: Nos dejó a los dos con el taller (…) pero él no podía, yo llegué cinco años después…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Mi madre duró hasta los 101 años. Yo hice una promesa, yo me voy de aquí cuando mi mamá muera, pero no murió de 40, murió a los 101 años.\r\n\r\nCarlos: 101 años. Pero él como era un gran hijo…\r\n \r\nMiguel: No, yo tenía que estar con mi madre, no la podía dejar sola. No le gusta el ancianato.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Mi padre le pidió el favor, le dijo “cuida a mamá”\r\n\r\nMiguel: Mi mamá lloraba, el ancianato no le gustaba, el ancianato no. En su casa, ahí en la cama (…) una salud tenía…\r\n\r\nMariado: De roble\r\n\r\nMiguel: De roble\r\n\r\nMariado: Vasca\r\n\r\nMiguel: Vasca\r\n\r\nCarlos: Mi padre decía, “¡esta vieja nos va a acabar a todos!” [ríe]\r\n\r\nMiguel: Decía mi papá, qué bárbaro.\r\n\r\n*Sobre Miguel llegando a NY*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=454.0,525.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: Entonces sí, cuando murió mi mamá yo llamé a Víctor y a Carlos\r\n\r\nMariado: Entonces ¿vosotros ibais de visita a Colombia cuando vivíais aquí?\r\n\r\nMiguel: No, nunca, tenían muchos trabajos. Estaban pintando todo el tiempo\r\n\r\nCarlos: Todos los días, murales. A él le contrataban para hacer murales de arte (…) hacíamos de 5 horas, pintábamos, 8 horas máximo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=525.0,560.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: Entonces, ¿cuánto tiempo estabais sin veros vosotros?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Cuando yo llegué…como unos veinte, treinta años\r\n\r\nCarlos: Treinta años\r\n\r\nMiguel: Y cuando yo llegué el primer día, era pintar un mural inmenso que estaba Víctor pintando. Yo pensaba que Víctor me llevaba a conocer o a dar un paseo para conocer la ciudad, y me dice…\r\n\r\nCarlos: Fue a trabajar\r\n \r\nMiguel: “vamos hermano que tengo una cosa pendiente”, digo “claro vamos”, en el taxi. Un mural inmenso. “Ven Miguel” dice, “empieza a pintar” [ríen]\r\n\r\n*Sobre Publicidad Chapinero en Colombia*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=560.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: No te dio tregua ninguna, bajar del avión y ponerte a pintar [ríen] ¿Entonces qué pasó con el negocio en Colombia?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Cerró\r\n\r\nMiguel: Tuvo que cerrar\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Cómo os repartíais el trabajo allí?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Él solo\r\n\r\nMiguel: Yo solo, tenía 6 empleados. Con 6 empleados trabajaba yo. Tenía una camioneta, no sé si estará por ahí [señalando fotografías], el truck (…) también tenía una camioneta.\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Cómo se llamaba?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Mi mamá le puso “La Picherela”\r\n\r\nCarlos: [ríe]\r\n\r\nMiguel: Mi mamá le puso “La Picherela”, y le querían ayudar a que suba a mi mamá\r\n\r\nMiguel: [enseñan fotografía] No, esa no es, es otra, pick up y green color.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Esa no es\r\n\r\nMiguel: Y a mi mamá le querían ayudar a subir y le decía “no, no me toques, puedo solita”\r\n\r\nCarlos: Sola\r\n\r\nMiguel: Era pura vasca\r\n\r\nMariado: Lo hacía todo\r\n\r\nCarlos: Solita","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=600.0,700.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: Ahí está mi madre, pura vasca, mírala ahí\r\n\r\nCarlos: Ahí esta de 80 y..\r\n\r\nMiguel: Ahí está de 96 años\r\n\r\nCarlos: 96\r\n\r\nMiguel: Caminaba sin bastón, y todo normal, hablaba normal\r\n\r\nCarlos: [ríe]\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Por qué lado era ella del País Vasco? ¿El de su mamá o el de su papá?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Por el del papá, de mi abuelo\r\n\r\nCarlos: Mi padre eran primos hermanos con mi mamá, de segundo grado\r\n\r\nMiguel: Mi mamacita, muy linda\r\n\r\nCarlos: ¡Esta es!\r\n\r\nMiguel: Esta es “La Picherela”, decía “yo quiero que me lleves en La Picherela”, mi mamá","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=700.0,759.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: Muy conocida, apenas veían la camioneta decían “ahí va Publicidad Chapinero”\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Cómo era?\r\n\r\nMiguel: ¿El nombre? Chapinero. Víctor, él hizo el personaje, que era una caricatura pintando y yo le hice el tipo de letra, yo hice el tipo de la letra.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Con el nombre. Éramos…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Tres socios\r\n\r\nMariado: Cada uno una cosa\r\n\r\nCarlos: Queríamos poner Cevallos y dijeron “no”, ponga Publicidad Chapinero, y eso le pusimos. Él [Aviram] lo puso, “Cevallos Bros”\r\n\r\nMariado: Chapineros ¿por qué es?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Por el barrio, el barrio se llamaba Chapinero\r\n\r\n*Sobre reproducción del Guernica para un cliente*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=759.0,806.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: [enseñan fotografía] Aquí como Picasso, una copia de Guernica, estamos los dos aquí pintando la Guernica para un español aquí en NY, en el 81, nos contrataron…\r\n\r\nMariado: Esto es…\r\n\r\nCarlos: El taller\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Tu mamá vino aquí?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Claro, por dos veces, la trajo Víctor\r\n\r\nMiguel: Víctor trajo a mi mamá…\r\n\r\nCarlos: Aquí estamos pintando la Guernica para un español que vivía en el West Side y era de seis pies de largo\r\n\r\nMiguel: La vasca, mira la vasca\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Esto es porque os lo encargó?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Sí, el español, réplica, dueño de un restaurante español, 1981\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Para el restaurante?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Para su casa\r\n\r\nMariado: Claro, tú aquí seguías…\r\n\r\nCarlos: Por Colombia\r\n\r\nCarlos: Tengo como 40 años\r\n\r\nMiguel: Estaba por Colombia\r\n\r\nCarlos: Muy apetecido [ríe]\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Querías venir o no querías venir?\r\n\r\nMiguel: (…) pues al venir, al poco tiempo murió Víctor, entonces dios seguramente dijo\r\n\r\nCarlos: Me habría quedado solo\r\n \r\nMiguel: “tu hermano te necesita”\r\n\r\nCarlos: Se llama Miguel Ángel, llegó un ángel.\r\n\r\n*Sobre Astoria*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=806.0,904.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: Claro, y ya estáis los tres aquí y…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Nos decían triplets, la gente “ahí van los triplets”, ahora nos dicen los twins [ríen]\r\n\r\nMiguel: Cuando nos ven dicen…\r\n\r\nMariado: Los álbumes, sí, los sacamos si queréis. Y cuando tú llegaste, ¿en qué zona de Nueva York vivíais? ¿Vivíais en Queens?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Vivía en Astoria, Queens, mi hermano Víctor era supremamente detallista y muy generoso, y él me dijo “Miguelito, donde vivimos es un poco estrecho, es muy pequeño, no te preocupes yo busco un lugar donde vengas” y dijo “te tengo listo un lindo apartamento en Queens en Astoria”. Muy bonito.\r\n\r\nMariado: Entonces vivías solo allí…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Si…\r\n\r\nMariado: Y los otros dos hermanos…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Un apartamento aquí en Manhattan, el hermano Víctor tenía un apartamento y ahí vivía con Carlos\r\n\r\nMariado: Y ¿qué recuerdas?, me has contado que él te llevo directamente a pintar, pero tú qué recuerdas de nada más venir, ¿qué recuerdas de la ciudad? ¿o algo que te impresionase?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Yo recuerdo que quería conocer las monedas, cómo son las monedas, pero mi hermano estaba muy ocupado, no tenía tiempo, “vamos hermano a trabajar”. Él era un enamorado del trabajo, me parece muy bonito. Y me llevo y yo encantado, porque me gusta la pintura. Y me dijo “vente a Astoria”. Y cuando llegué a Astoria me enseñó un apartamento con todo, con la cama, con el colchón, con todo. Yo vivía como un rey allá en Astoria. Pero lindo, lindo. Y la gente. Vivían unos griegos ahí en el edificio y me saludaban todo el tiempo, los griegos.\r\n\r\nMariado: Claro, Astoria es…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Zona griega, exacto, mucho griego, si.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=904.0,1066.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: Entonces, él vivía solo en Astoria, y tú y tu hermano…\r\n\r\nCarlos: Conmigo, en un apartamento, en el mismo lugar 50 años\r\n\r\nMiguel: A mi hermano le gustaba estar cómodo, no con gente, si no solo\r\n\r\nCarlos: Independiente\r\n\r\nMiguel: Para concentrarse, porque a él le parecía desagradable estar con más gente extraña\r\n\r\nCarlos: Pero era lo que quería, y pensar solo\r\n\r\nMariado: Justo también os iba a preguntar, nada más llegar aquí…\r\n\r\nMiguel: No, él luchó mucho, Víctor, fue hasta acólito de una iglesia\r\n\r\nCarlos: De todo","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1066.0,1124.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: [apuntando a fotografía] ¡Mira! Esto es un famoso restaurante en Astoria, en Astoria (…) con un mariachi atrás\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Qué restaurante era?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Sigue existiendo\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Sigue existiendo? ¿Cuál es este?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Se llama…¿cómo se llama? La colada, piña colada…¿cómo se llama? Acuérdate, el nombre de una bebida\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Bebida famosa?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Margarita\r\n\r\nCarlos: ¡Margarita! Ese.\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Cuándo es?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Cerca de Steinway\r\n \r\nMariado: ¿Un día que estabais ahí tomando algo?\r\n\r\nMiguel: [señalando fotografía] Es Víctor, él es Víctor (…)\r\n\r\nCarlos: Ese bar era todo, todo de mi hermano, lo pintó todo\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Dentro del restaurante?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Todo, los murales, entera, todo.\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Sigue estando?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Igual\r\n\r\nMariado: Entonces, ¿cómo era? Me llama la atención. Vosotros estabais en Manhattan, el único que estaba en Queens eras tú…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Pero nos reuníamos todos los días\r\n\r\nCarlos: Todos los días\r\n\r\nMiguel: Yo cogía el tren en Astoria y me iba…\r\n\r\n*Sobre el taller*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1124.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: En Queens teníamos el taller. Resulta que nosotros primero tuvimos un taller aquí en Times Square que era de diez cuartos. Pero era con una condición, este en Times Square [señala a fotografía] pintábamos ahí, en tela…\r\n\r\nMariado: Primero…\r\n\r\nCarlos: No, esto eran unos clientes\r\n\r\nMiguel: Eran unos clientes…\r\n\r\nCarlos: En Broadway tomaba fotos, cobraban $10 para los turistas y uno de esos nos mandaron hacer diez carteles de tela\r\n\r\nMiguel: Grandes (…) y cuando yo llegué me creía que íbamos a dar una vuelta… “no no vamos a trabajar”. A mi me gusta trabajar (…) lo primero que hice al llegar a Astoria fue preguntar donde había una iglesia, y poner una velita, y hasta ahora.\r\n\r\n*Sobre álbumes*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1230.0,1317.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: [mirando a recortes de periódico] Son recortes…\r\n\r\nCarlos: Sí, de periódico\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Este de donde es?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Eso, tú conociste ese periódico que desapareció, se llamaba “Noticias del Mundo”\r\n\r\nMariado: Y era de aquí de Nueva York, ¿dónde lo hacían?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Aquí en Manhattan\r\n\r\nMiguel: “El Diario”, aquí también\r\n\r\nCarlos: “Hermanos pintores ecuatorianos logran triunfos en Queens”\r\n\r\nMiguel: Hacían entrevistas si, a cada rato, decían “ustedes pintan a mano, qué bien”\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Tú todavía no estabas?\r\n\r\nMiguel: No\r\n\r\nCarlos: Esto es en el 80…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Yo estaba pintando por allá\r\n\r\nCarlos: Él llegó en el 2005 (…) el periódico otra vez\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Qué dice?\r\n\r\nCarlos: “Asuntos Puertorriqueños”, también nos publicaron aquí\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Esto es de alguna exposición?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Si, de un concurso para artistas, estamos ahí…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1317.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: Es que uno se encariña con todo. En nuestra casa parece un museo, todo lleno de cosas.\r\n\r\nMiguel: No te hemos contado que hicimos una gira artística, de Centroamérica\r\n \r\nMariado: Eso, eso hemos empezado a hablarlo ¿cómo fue?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Nos reunimos, muy jovencitos, yo tenía 18, él tenía 22, fuimos a una gira.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Aquí dice “Museo del Barrio” [señala recorte de periódico], es el movimiento que creo él a base de letras, aquí dice “El Museo del Barrio”\r\n\r\nMariado: Ósea, ¿tipografía?\r\n\r\nCarlos: No, no, tela\r\n\r\nMiguel: Un lienzo\r\n\r\nCarlos: Tiene una que dice, Brooklyn, Nueva York, Manhattan, El Barrio\r\n\r\nMiguel: Es el estilo que creo Víctor\r\n\r\nMariado: Lo tenéis guardado, eso es un tesoro\r\n\r\nCarlos: Sí, es un tesoro, 20 piezas que dice Manhattan, Queens, New York\r\n\r\nMiguel: Y ese cuadrito ¿qué te parece?\r\n\r\nMariado: Este quién…\r\n\r\nCarlos: En el Museo del Barrio\r\n\r\nMiguel: Carlos\r\n\r\nCarlos: Se llama “Spiritual Dance”, 78, tenía 40 años.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1410.0,1506.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: Entonces todo esto de aquí [señalando a recortes de periódico] ¿estabais haciendo los carteles a la vez? Para…\r\n\r\nCarlos: No\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Esto es todo antes?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Esto era caricatura, con Víctor, en la gira, solo caricatura\r\n\r\nCarlos: Estos son trabajos de arte nada más, no eran posters (…) posters empezamos…\r\n \r\nMiguel: Posters es que llegó Víctor un poco más después, por el 90 (…) dijo, “aquí hay mucho evento”, que si el día de la madre…\r\n\r\nCarlos: [descanso, llega una persona] Es una fan\r\n\r\nMariado: ¡No me digas!\r\n\r\nMiguel: Si, ella compró un calendario\r\n\r\nCarlos: Compró un calendario, si\r\n\r\nMiguel: Nos contó que lo había comprado, Aviram nos contó, nos lo mostró, dijo “oh, está bonito eso”\r\n\r\n*Sobre casas de Ecuador y Colombia*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1506.0,1584.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: [tras hablar de tener muchos hermanos] ¿Y teníais una casa muy grande?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Sí, allí en Ecuador (…) actualmente es un hotel\r\n\r\nMiguel: Un hotel inmenso\r\n\r\nCarlos: Se llama “Hotel El Indio”. Era un caserón enorme\r\n\r\nMiguel: En tiempos…\r\n\r\nCarlos: Seis alcobas, seis cuartos, cocina, jardín y garaje\r\n\r\nMiguel: Y jugábamos en el patio, jugábamos fútbol\r\n\r\nCarlos: Un garaje para el carro, y los camiones (…) hicieron un hotel ahí, muy famoso.\r\n\r\nMariado: Y la casa de Colombia ¿también era grande, cuando llegasteis?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Menos, menos\r\n\r\nMiguel: La de Bogotá\r\n\r\nCarlos: Más grande la de Ecuador.\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Cuál te gustaba más?\r\n \r\nMiguel: Bueno, todas tienen su tiempo (…)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1584.0,1720.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: [mirando fotografías, aparece una del estudio] ¿Y por qué os cambiasteis de estudio?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Ese estudio lo tomaron porque iban a demoler el edificio, como, estaban sacando. Entonces un abogado amigo nos dijo “mira muchachos, os rento un piso entero, por $300”, barato, pero con una condición, que en ocho años se acaba el contrato y fuera porque van a demoler.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Costaba 500 mil pero pagábamos 500.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Barato, ahí pintaba pero maravillas\r\n\r\nCarlos:  [mirando más fotografías] Este, este cuadro ganó tres premios, se llama “Las Ámericas”, un cuadro (…) de Argentina hasta Venezuela (…) pintado por mi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1720.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: ¿Cómo fue lo de hacerle los carteles a los restaurantes?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Él visitaba\r\n\r\nMiguel: Era un vendedor, llevaba sus bocetos, se los presentaba a clientes y les dejaba con la boca abierta. Porque era un hombre de negocios. “¿Cuánto vale”, “Vale $100”, y cobraba $200, $500, depende del trabajo (…) el sistema de ventas era llevar el sketch, coger el nombre del negocio y poner una promoción. Y ellos lo cambiaban, “¿lo puede cambiar por esto?”, y hacía cambios (…)\r\n\r\nMiguel: Después ya llamaban los clientes\r\n\r\nCarlos: Nosotros combinábamos las exhibiciones con pintura, con trabajos, con Víctor (…) (…)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1740.0,1886.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80748/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: [mirando fotografías de Colombia de nuevo] Yo extrañaba mucho a mis hermanitos, claro\r\n\r\nMiguel: Había un cliente que se llamaba Paneton (…) tenía varios negocios inmensos el dueño de Paneton, cinco negocios el dueño (…) y llegaba y me decía “mira Miguel quiero que me hagas unos carteles pero no en computadora, a mano, y yo me siento” y se esperaba y le hacía los carteles, sacaba la chequera y me pagaba, yo no sé cuanto era, 100 pesos (…) todos los sábados, era un cliente. Yo me tenía que salir y me decía “no, no Miguel, espérate, hazme eso”\r\n\r\nMariado: Los quería…\r\n\r\nMiguel: En el momento, me tocaba sentarme, porque era un cliente, mejor que yo pintaba rápido… (…)\r\n\r\nMiguel: Eso también para una empresa japonesa, eran japoneses…yo tenía como dice Carlitos, 30 clientes, no, 3000\r\n\r\nMariado: Eso iba…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Si yo me hubiera quedado allí, todavía seguía, entonces no paraba de trabajar\r\n\r\nMariado: ¿Nunca habéis vuelto allí a ver lo que hay ahora?\r\n\r\nMiguel: No, no, cancelé el taller. Pero por ahí me han comentado que en el mismo local tienen un taller también, pero no sé si tendrá el mismo éxito.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1886.0,2015.16408"}]},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"*About Aviram Cohen*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: In Queens, we worked in Queens\r\n\r\nCarlos: We worked in Queens but we lived here, and one day, I went to a Chinese restaurant to eat a lot. Customer. I ate and went to work in this (…)\r\n\r\nMiguel: we worked in a basement\r\n\r\nCarlos: They tell me “there is a man who is looking for you, American”, I say “who is it”, “he wants to meet the ones who make posters for all the bars”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=0.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: “Well, let him come.” It was the year 57, sorry! 2017. I tell him “yes, a la orden”, that he wants to create a job for his wife, in a yoga studio, a yoga academy there in Queens. And we made the poster and that's where the friendship began","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=35.0,63.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: That's where it started\r\n\r\nCarlos: 77, 78, 79, uh, 80.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Then the pandemic came, we closed. My friend “don't worry”\r\n\r\nCarlos: There was no work, all the bars were closed.\r\n\r\nMiguel: “I work online”\r\n\r\nCarlos: He called and said “don't worry, I work online.” We have continued since 2020. I mean we have been with him for five years, without stopping, not even a day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=63.0,94.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: Look, because the pandemic could have been like…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Something incredible.\r\n\r\nCarlos: We have made thousands of posters, or hundreds.\r\n\r\nMiguel: The most important thing is that Aviram has many qualities, a lot of affection, he really likes art.\r\n \r\nCarlos: He is a cartoonist, he has talent as a cartoonist. He does sketches.\r\n\r\nMiguel: He makes very nice sketches. He has found work for us and we have made posters.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Because he works in galleries and museums. He has talent for art, he likes it.\r\n\r\nMiguel: He likes painting.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Then he came out and said “I'm going to make you world famous.” And he did it, he did it.\r\n\r\nMariado: So nice.\r\n\r\nMiguel: It's extraordinary.\r\n\r\nMariado: And how lucky too.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Yes, lucky, it's true.\r\n\r\n*About their brother, Victor Hugo*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=94.0,157.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: I would love to know, because you have told me a little bit, you are the one who moved first...\r\n\r\nCarlos: Víctor\r\n\r\nMariado: First our brother\r\n\r\nMiguel: Víctor Hugo\r\n\r\nCarlos: We owe him\r\n\r\nMiguel: We owe Victor Hugo\r\n\r\nCarlos: First him, then me, and then he came, he brought us together. First to me, then to him, to all three of us. The three of us were very close until he died.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=157.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: The creator of the posters was Victor.\r\n\r\nCarlos: He is the creator of that.\r\n\r\nMiguel: He had many clients\r\n\r\nCarlos: What we do now was created by him, about 35 years ago.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Since he passed away, I continue as a designer\r\n \r\nCarlos: Like La Loutre, do you remember La Loutre? In France, he was the Loutre here, creator of a poster system different from what... for all the events, he had 60 clients, Father's Day, Mother's Day... everything was created by him. There were three of us, he passed away and he [Aviram] already knew all the posters he had saved, he was a collector without knowing.\r\n\r\nMiguel: He is a genius, yes, because he keeps things.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Everything that is there was kept by him.\r\n\r\nMiguel: I was surprised, where did he get them from? It's incredible.\r\n\r\nCarlos: He would go to the places and say, when they threw them away, to give them to him.\r\n\r\n*About life in Colombia*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=180.0,269.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: I'm going to go back a little, so where were you born?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Ecuador.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Ecuador.\r\n\r\nMariado: And you move being very young to…\r\n\r\nMiguel: To Colombia.\r\n\r\nCarlos: He came when he was young, Victor Hugo.\r\n\r\nMariado: So you were born in Ecuador, as little ones…\r\n\r\nCarlos: We went to Colombia\r\n\r\nMiguel: We settled in Colombia\r\n\r\nMariado: And what was it like there, tell me about that, what do you remember from there?\r\n\r\nCarlos: We set up a workshop, the boys, the three of us. We studied, we went to high school. I studied a lot of English and French, every day, I was crazy about English.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=269.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: When I was little, dale y dale.\r\n\r\nMiguel: When he was little he carried books under his arm.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Briefcases with records.\r\n\r\nMariado: With records! What were you listening to?\r\n\r\nCarlos: 50 lessons.\r\n \r\nMiguel: 50 lessons.\r\n\r\nMariado: Ah! When you said records, I thought it was music!\r\n\r\nMiguel: Little ones.\r\n\r\nCarlos: No, lesson records, study records, little ones.\r\n\r\nMariado: 45.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Yes, 45. There was British English and American English.\r\n\r\n*About their brother, Victor Hugo*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=310.0,341.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: My brother who is there, Víctor, was a genius for caricatures. He made half a million cartoons and toured all of Central America.\r\n\r\nMiguel: He would have already made a caricature of you.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Panamá, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, Salvador, Guatemala and México. Round trip. Fourteen countries practically.\r\n\r\nMariado: But this means that the three of you were in Colombia? How old were you when you went to Colombia?\r\n\r\nCarlos: We were 12 year old boys.\r\n\r\nMiguel: I was 12. We finished primary school and secondary school in Colombia.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Everything.\r\n\r\nMiguel: The intermediate career that was drawing.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Before coming here\r\n\r\nMariado: Did the three of you study art?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Sure, we study advertising drawing. I finished the course, I went to a course for a year and a half. I know about drawing.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Víctor was born with caricatures. Victor was impressive since he was a child. At six months old, he painted in the sand, he did like this...\r\n\r\nMiguel: My mother used to tell this\r\n\r\nCarlos: With six months he did these things\r\n \r\nMariado: So this was in…\r\n\r\nMiguel: In his blood\r\n\r\n*About the workshop*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=341.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: He was already born, his talent is tremendous (…) Look, this is in Colmbia [points to a photograph]\r\n\r\nMiguel: In Colombia\r\n\r\nCarlos: In the workshop that we founded.\r\n\r\nMariado: Here are the three of you…tell me a little, what were you doing there? How was it?\r\n\r\nCarlos: All kinds of jobs, hundreds.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Commercial art, to the public.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Like this billboard [points to photograph], it was for a client…\r\n\r\nMiguel: This is us, preparing everything…\r\n\r\nCarlos: It reached three thousand five hundred clients…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Many clients\r\n\r\n*About their mom*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=413.0,454.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: You had the workshop, and the three of you were together, and then?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Victor came here.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Víctor said “I'm coming to the United States”\r\n\r\nCarlos: he left us both with the workshop (…) but he couldn't, I arrived five years later…\r\n \r\nMiguel: My mother lasted until she was 101 years old. I made a promise, I'm leaving here when my mother dies, but she didn't die at 40, she died at 101 years old.\r\n\r\nCarlos: 101 years old. But he was a great son...\r\n\r\nMiguel: No, I had to be with my mother, I couldn't leave her alone. She doesn't like the nursing home.\r\n\r\nCarlos: My father asked him for a favor, he told him “take care of mom.”\r\n\r\nMiguel: My mother cried, she didn't like the nursing home, she didn't like the nursing home. In her house, there in bed (...) he had such a good health...\r\n\r\nMariado: Strong\r\n\r\nMiguel: Strong\r\n\r\nMariado: Basque\r\n\r\nMiguel: Basque\r\n\r\nCarlos: My father said, “this old woman is going to destroy us all!” [laughs]\r\n\r\nMiguel: My dad said, how funny.\r\n\r\n*About Miguel arriving in NY*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=454.0,525.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: So yes, when my mother died I called Víctor and Carlos\r\n\r\nMariado: So you ever went to visit Colombia when you lived here?\r\n\r\nMiguel: No, never, they had many jobs. They were painting all the time\r\n\r\nCarlos: Every day, murals. They hired him to do art murals (…) we did 5 hours, we painted, 8 hours maximum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=525.0,560.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: So, how long did you go without seeing each other?\r\n\r\nMiguel: When I arrived…about twenty, thirty years old.\r\n \r\nCarlos: Thirty years\r\n\r\nMiguel: And when I arrived on the first day, it was to paint a huge mural that Víctor was painting. I thought that Víctor was taking me to see things or take me for a walk to get to know the city, and he tells me...\r\n\r\nCarlos: he went to work\r\n\r\nMiguel: “Come on, brother, I have something pending,” I say, “Sure, let's go,” in the taxi. A huge mural. “Come Miguel,” he says, “start painting” [laughs]\r\n\r\n*About Publicidad Chapinero in Colombia*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=560.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: He didn't let you rest, getting off the plane and starting to paint [laughs] So what happened to the business in Colombia?\r\n\r\nCarlos: It closed\r\n\r\nMiguel: It had to close\r\n\r\nMariado: How did you divide the work there?\r\n\r\nCarlos: On his own\r\n\r\nMiguel: By myself, I had 6 employees. I worked with 6 employees. I had a truck, I don't know if it’s here [pointing to photographs], the truck (…) I also had a truck.\r\n\r\nMariado: What was the name?\r\n\r\nMiguel: My mum called it “La Picherela”\r\n\r\nCarlos: [laughs]\r\n\r\nMiguel: My mother called him “La Picherela”, and they wanted to help my mum get on board.\r\n\r\nMiguel: [showing a photograph] No, that's not it, it's another one, a pickup truck and green color.\r\n\r\nCarlos: That's not it.\r\n\r\nMiguel: And they wanted to help my mom get up and she told them “no, don't touch me, I can do it alone.”\r\n\r\nCarlos: on her own\r\n\r\nMiguel: She was pure Basque\r\n \r\nMariado: She did everything…\r\n\r\nCarlos: On her own","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=600.0,700.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: There is my mother, pure Basque, look at her there\r\n\r\nCarlos: There she is, she's 80 and...\r\n\r\nMiguel: There she is, she is 96 years old.\r\n\r\nCarlos: 96\r\n\r\nMiguel: She walked without a cane, and everything was normal, she spoke normally.\r\n\r\nCarlos: [laughs]\r\n\r\nMariado: Which side of the family was from the Basque Country?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Because of my dad's, my grandfather's\r\n\r\nCarlos: My father was first cousins with my mother, second grade.\r\n\r\nMiguel: My mamacita, so pretty\r\n\r\nCarlos: This is it!\r\n\r\nMiguel: This is “La Picherela”, my mother said “I want you to drive me in La Picherela”.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=700.0,759.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: Very well known, as soon as they saw the truck they said “there it goes Publicidad Chapinero”\r\n\r\nMariado: What was it?\r\n\r\nMiguel: The name? Chapinero. Víctor, he made the character, which was a caricature painting and I made the font, I made the font.\r\n\r\nCarlos: With the name. We were…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Three partners\r\n\r\nMariado: Each one doing something\r\n \r\nCarlos: We wanted to put Cevallos and they said “no”, put Publicidad Chapinero, and that's what we put. He [Aviram] put it, “Cevallos Bros”\r\n\r\nMariado: Chapineros, why is it?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Because of the neighborhood, the neighborhood was called Chapinero\r\n\r\n*About reproducing the Guernica for a client*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=759.0,806.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: [they show a photograph] Here as Picasso, a copy of Guernica, we are both here painting Guernica for a Spaniard here in NY, in '81, they hired us...\r\n\r\nMariado: This is…\r\n\r\nCarlos: The workshop\r\n\r\nMariado: Did your mother come here?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Of course, Victor brought her twice.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Víctor brought my mother…\r\n\r\nCarlos: Here we are painting Guernica for a Spaniard who lived on the West Side and it was six feet long.\r\n\r\nMiguel: The Basque, look at the Basque\r\n\r\nMariado: Is this because he asked you to do it?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Yes, the Spanish, replica, he was the owner of a Spanish restaurant, 1981\r\n\r\nMariado: Fort he restaurant?\r\n\r\nCarlos: For his house\r\n\r\nMariado: Of course, you were still here…\r\n\r\nCarlos: In Colombia\r\n\r\nCarlos: I'm like 40 years old.\r\n\r\nMiguel: I was in Colombia\r\n \r\nCarlos: Very good looking [laughs]\r\n\r\nMariado: Did you want to come here or you didn't?\r\n\r\nMiguel: (…) well, when I came, Victor died short after, so God surely said\r\n\r\nCarlos: I would have been alone\r\n\r\nMiguel: “your brother needs you”\r\n\r\nCarlos: Se llama Miguel Ángel, an angel arrived\r\n\r\n*About Astoria*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=806.0,904.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: and now the three of you are here and…\r\n\r\nMiguel: They called us triplets, people would go “there go the triplets”, now they call us the twins [laughs]\r\n\r\nMiguel: When they see us they say...\r\n\r\nMariado: The albums, yes, we can have a look if you want. And when you arrived, in what area of New York did you live? Did you live in Queens?\r\n\r\nMiguel: I lived in Astoria, Queens, my brother Víctor was very detail-oriented and very generous, and he told me “Miguelito, where we live is a little tight, it's very small, don't worry, I'll look for a place for you” and he said “I have a nice apartment ready in Queens in Astoria.” Beautiful.\r\n\r\nMariado: So you lived on your own…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Yes…\r\n\r\nMariado: And the other brothers…\r\n\r\nMiguel: In an apartment here in Manhattan, brother Víctor had an apartment and he lived there with Carlos\r\n\r\nMariado: And what do you remember? You told me that he took you directly to paint, but what do you remember as soon as you came, what do you remember about the city? Or something that impressed you?\r\n\r\nMiguel: I remember that I wanted to see the money, how the money was, but my brother was very busy, he didn't have time, “let's go to work, brother.” He was in love with work, I think it's very nice. And I was delighted, because I like painting. And he told me “come to Astoria.” And when I arrived to Astoria he showed me an apartment with everything, with the bed, with the mattress, with everything. I lived like a king back in Astoria. But nice, nice. And the people. Some Greeks lived there in the building and they greeted me all the time, the Greeks.\r\n\r\nMariado: Of course, Astoria is…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Greek area, exactly, a lot of Greeks, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=904.0,1066.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: So, he lived alone in Astoria, and you and your brother...\r\n\r\nCarlos: With me, in an apartment, in the same place for 50 years\r\n\r\nMiguel: My brother liked to be comfortable, not with people, but alone\r\n\r\nCarlos: Independent\r\n\r\nMiguel: To concentrate, because he found it unpleasant to be with strange people.\r\n\r\nCarlos: But it was what he wanted…\r\n\r\nMariado: I was also going to ask you, as soon as he got here...\r\n\r\nMiguel: No, he fought a lot, Víctor, he was even an acolyte for a church\r\n\r\nCarlos: He did everything","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1066.0,1124.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: [pointing to photograph] Look! This is a famous restaurant in Astoria, in Astoria (…) with a mariachi in the back\r\n\r\nMariado: What restaurant was it?\r\n\r\nCarlos: It still exists\r\n\r\nMariado: Does it still exist? Which one is this?\r\n\r\nCarlos: It's called...what's it called? La colada, piña colada…what is it called? Remember the name of a drink\r\n\r\nMariado: Famous drink?\r\n \r\nMiguel: Margarita\r\n\r\nCarlos: Margarita! That one.\r\n\r\nMariado: When is it?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Near Steinway\r\n\r\nMariado: One day when you were there having something?\r\n\r\nMiguel: [pointing to photograph] It's Víctor, this is Víctor (…)\r\n\r\nCarlos: That bar was everything, everything belonged to my brother, he painted it all.\r\n\r\nMariado: Inside the restaurant?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Everything, the murals, everything, everything.\r\n\r\nMariado: Is it still there?\r\n\r\nMiguel: The same.\r\n\r\nMariado: So what was it like? It catches my attention. You were in Manhattan, the only one who was in Queens was...\r\n\r\nMiguel: But we met every day\r\n\r\nCarlos: Every day\r\n\r\nMiguel: I would take the train in Astoria and go…\r\n\r\n*About the workshop*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1124.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carlos: In Queens we had the workshop. It turns out that we first had a workshop here in Times Square that was ten rooms. But it was with one condition, this one in Times Square [points to photograph] we painted there, on canvas...\r\n\r\nMariado: First…\r\n\r\nCarlos: No, these were clients.\r\n\r\nMiguel: They were clients…\r\n \r\nCarlos: On Broadway they took photos, they charged $10 for tourists and one of those days they asked us to make ten fabric posters\r\n\r\nMiguel: Big ones (...) and when I arrived I thought we were going for a walk... \"no, we're going to work.\" I like to work (…) the first thing I did when I arrived in Astoria was ask where there was a church, and put a candle, and until now.\r\n\r\n*About the albums*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1230.0,1317.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: [looking at newspaper clippings] They are cuts…\r\n\r\nCarlos: Yes, from the newspaper\r\n\r\nMariado: Where is this one from?\r\n\r\nCarlos: That, you knew that newspaper that disappeared, it was called “Noticias del Mundo”\r\n\r\nMariado: And it was from here in New York, where did they do it?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Here in Manhattan\r\n\r\nMiguel: “El Diario”, here too\r\n\r\nCarlos: “Ecuadorian painter brothers achieve success in Queens”\r\n\r\nMiguel: They did interviews all the time, they said “you paint by hand, that's great.”\r\n\r\nMariado: You weren't there yet?\r\n\r\nMiguel: No\r\n\r\nCarlos: This is in 80…\r\n\r\nMiguel: I was painting over there.\r\n\r\nCarlos: He arrived in 2005 (…) the newspaper again\r\n\r\nMariado: What does it say?\r\n\r\nCarlos: “Asuntos Puertorriqueños”, they also published us here\r\n \r\nMariado: Is this from some exhibition?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Yes, a contest for artists, we are there...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1317.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: It's just that you get attached to everything. In our house it’s like a museum, everything full of things.\r\n\r\nMiguel: We haven't told you that we did an artistic tour of Central America.\r\n\r\nMariado: That, we started talking about that, how was it?\r\n\r\nMiguel: We met, very young, I was 18, he was 22, we went on a tour.\r\n\r\nCarlos: Here it says “Museo del Barrio” [points to newspaper clipping], it is the movement that he created based on letters, here it says “El Museo del Barrio”\r\n\r\nMariado: I mean, typography?\r\n\r\nCarlos: No, no, fabric\r\n\r\nMiguel: A canvas\r\n\r\nCarlos: It has one that says, Brooklyn, New York, Manhattan, El Barrio\r\n\r\nMiguel: It's the style that Víctor created\r\n\r\nMariado: You have it saved, that is a treasure\r\n\r\nCarlos: Yes, it is a treasure, 20 pieces that say Manhattan, Queens, New York\r\n\r\nMiguel: And that little painting, what do you think?\r\n\r\nMariado: This who…\r\n\r\nCarlos: At el Museo del Barrio\r\n\r\nMiguel: Carlos\r\n\r\nCarlos: It's called “Spiritual Dance”, 78, I was 40 years old.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1410.0,1506.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: So all this here [pointing to newspaper clippings] were you making the posters at the same time? For…\r\n\r\nCarlos: No\r\n\r\nMariado: Is this all before?\r\n\r\nMiguel: There were caricatures, with Víctor, on the tour, just caricatures\r\n\r\nCarlos: These are works of art, nothing more, they were not posters (…) posters, we started…\r\n\r\nMiguel: Posters is that Víctor arrived a little later, around the 90s (…) he said, “there is a lot of event here”, that if Mother's Day…\r\n\r\nCarlos: [break, a person arrives] she is a fan\r\n\r\nMariado: Really!\r\n\r\nMiguel: Yes, she bought a calendar.\r\n\r\nCarlos: she bought a calendar, yes\r\n\r\nMiguel: she told us that she had bought it, Aviram told us, she showed it to us, she said “oh, that's nice”\r\n\r\n*About houses from Ecuador and Colombia*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1506.0,1584.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: [after talking about having many siblings] And you had a very big house?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Yes, there in Ecuador (…) it is currently a hotel\r\n\r\nMiguel: A huge hotel\r\n\r\nCarlos: It's called “Hotel El Indio”. It was a huge house\r\n\r\nMiguel: In those times…\r\n\r\nCarlos: Six bedrooms, six rooms, kitchen, garden and garage\r\n\r\nMiguel: And we played in the yard, we played soccer\r\n \r\nCarlos: A garage for the car, and the trucks (…) they made a hotel there, very famous.\r\n\r\nMariado: And the house in Colombia, was it also big when you arrived?\r\n\r\nCarlos: Less, less\r\n\r\nMiguel: The one from Bogotá\r\n\r\nCarlos: The one in Ecuador is bigger.\r\n\r\nMariado: Which one did you like more?\r\n\r\nMiguel: Well, everything has its time (…)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1584.0,1720.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: [looking at photographs, one of the studio appears] And why did you change studios?\r\n\r\nMiguel: We took that study because they were going to demolish the building, like, they were removing it. Then a lawyer friend told us “look guys, I'll rent you an entire apartment, for $300”, cheap, but with one condition, that in eight years the contract ends and that's it because they are going to demolish it.\r\n\r\nCarlos: It cost 500 thousand but we paid 500.\r\n\r\nMiguel: Cheap, he painted wonders there\r\n\r\nCarlos: [looking at more photographs] This, this painting won three awards, it is called “Las Américas”, a painting (…) from Argentina to Venezuela (…) painted by me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1720.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mariado: What was it like to make the posters for the restaurants?\r\n\r\nCarlos: He visited\r\n\r\nMiguel: He was a salesman, he took his sketches, presented them to clients and left them with their mouths open. Because he was a businessman. “How much is it?” “Is it worth $100?” and he charged $200, $500, it depends on the job (…) the sales system was to bring the sketch, take the name of the business and put up a promotion. And they changed it, “can you change this for this?”, and they made changes (…)\r\n \r\nMiguel: Then it was the clients calling\r\n\r\nCarlos: We combined the exhibitions with painting, with works (…) (…)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1740.0,1886.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647/transcript/80749/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miguel: [looking at photographs from Colombia again] I missed my little brothers a lot, of course.\r\n\r\nMiguel: There was a client named Paneton (...) the owner of Paneton had several huge businesses, the owner had five businesses (...) and he came to me and told me \"look Miguel, I want you to make me some posters but not on the computer, by hand, and I sit down” and he waited and I made the signs, he took out the checkbook and paid me, I don't know how much it was, 100 pesos (…) every Saturday, he was a client. I had to leave and he told me “no, no Miguel, wait, do that one”\r\n\r\nMariado: He wanted those…\r\n\r\nMiguel: In the moment, I had to sit down, because he was a client, at least I painted quickly... (…)\r\n\r\nMiguel: That's also for a Japanese company, they were Japanese…I had, as Carlitos says, 30 clients, no, 3000\r\n\r\nMariado: That was…\r\n\r\nMiguel: If I had stayed there, I would still be working, back then I wouldn't stop working\r\n\r\nMariado: Have you never gone back there to see what there is now?\r\n\r\nMiguel: No, no, I closed the workshop. But they have told me that there’s also a workshop in the same location, but I don't know if it will have the same success.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/150027/file/275647#t=1886.0,2015.16408"}]}]}]}