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Let's start from the beginning. Could you please say your first name and last name and spell them for me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=0.0,8.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. My first name is Fernanda and my last name is Parrado. First name F E R N A N D A. And last name P A R R A D O.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=8.0,24.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: And how old are you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=24.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: I'm 22 years old.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=26.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Now, I sent you the consent, but I'm going read these lines for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=30.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=35.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Do you agree to the terms and conditions outlined in the Queens' Memory form consent and copyright permission form that I shared with you over the email?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=35.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: I agree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=45.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Thank you. So, which neighborhood were you living in in Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=47.0,53.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: I used to live in Flushing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=53.0,57.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: And how your life was affected by COVID-19?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=57.0,63.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: As soon as the pandemic started, I'm an international student at city college, so as soon as the pandemic started, I had to come back to my country. I had to come back to Brazil because there was no way of staying United States without any funds, without any housing, without any job, or, you know, even the unemployment check that some people are getting, I wasn't eligible to apply for it. So the only solution that I found was to come to Brazil. And you know, I work very hard to be able to apply for the OPT, which is authorization to work for a year in the United States. And now that all this happened and my visa expired, I have no idea if I will be able to ever go back to New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=63.0,124.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: And how long were you living in New York before you leave?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=124.0,129.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: I was living in New York for four years, going to my fifth year in the United States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=129.0,137.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: So, do you know if you're going to be able to come back and apply for your OPT again? You're trying to come back here? What are your possibilities?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=137.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah, so I contact City College. They let me know at the time that if I didn't go to New York until May 22nd, I will lose my possibility of applying for the OPT. I couldn't apply while I was in New York because I didn't have money to apply for it. So, just when I got here, they told me that I wouldn't be able to apply for the OPT from in another country, even during the pandemic, even that all this is going on. And they told me if you don't come back to New York until May 22nd, you're going to lose your opportunity that you've been working hard for four years. So, pretty much I think I lost this opportunity, which is very unfair. To lose that because [of] the pandemic is not something that I could control, and there was nothing I could do. And City College told me you shouldn't have gone home, you should have stay here and apply for the OPT, and I told them I had no option to stay in United States without any money to survive there. So, there's really no possibilities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=150.0,236.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: So, what happened? Were you able to connect with them before you leave or did you have the proper information? Like, why did you leave? Were you expecting this or not? What are your consequences of leaving?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=236.0,256.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. What happened was, once you get of United States, it says in the law, in the immigration process that you cannot apply for the OPT once you're abroad. I contacted City College, I let them know that I wanted to apply for OPT and they told me, 'You have to pay the fee to be able to apply for it.' And I didn't have the money at the time. So, I was working to get some money and be able to apply for it, and then all this happened. I lost my job. I lost everything. So, I had to use what I was saving to be able to pay for rent. So, I lost that money. I wasn't able to apply for the OPT and I contact them and let them know that I was going to Brazil because there was no possibility of staying in the United States and they didn't really say nothing. And just when I came here, they let me know that, 'Oh, if you're in another country and you're not coming back, your [unclear] is going to expire. And once that expires, you cannot come back to United States. So, that's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=256.0,338.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Do you see finding a solution of trying to come back here or any other options you can see and happening in the future? I mean, it's a big investment being here for four years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=338.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah, it is. I talked to them and they told me my possibilities. My options were to go back to the United States before May 22nd, before my visa expired, which I couldn't do because everything that is going on. And then they told me maybe wait, because maybe the United States immigration department is going to change that rule for 2020 international students, because it was really a situation that nobody could control. So, it's really a process of waiting to see if they gonna do anything about that, and to be honest, I really don't have a lot of hope that they're gonna help international students and then gave them another opportunity because this government is never supporting immigrants. So, I really don't hope that, but I'm trying to see if I can apply for the O-1 visa, which is for artists. I'm trying to see that, but I feel that during this pandemic is really a moment about being able to survive and being able to stay alive. So, I'm just with my family trying to work, trying to make money. And once all this situation goes, I'm gonna try to look for it and try to apply for the visa and really fight for my opportunity to be United States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=360.0,469.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Do you think that the process will be little bit easier for this type of, you said it's 0-1?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=469.0,477.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah, 0-1.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=477.0,477.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Okay. Is it easier than the OPT?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=477.0,481.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: To be honest, no. The OPT would be easier because, it was a right that I have as an international student to be able to apply, and many international students are able to get this authorization to work for a year because it's really a right that you have to apply. But, when it comes to the 0-1 visa is, you have to kind of compete with other artists to be able to get that. And you have to prove like how outstanding you are and all of that. And it really doesn't give a lot of descriptions of how they decide if your art is outstanding, if your art is important to be United States. So it's really in the air, even more than the OPT options. So, I think it's going to be even harder after this pandemic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=481.0,541.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Have you done any work in the U.S. that you exhibited in galleries or you participated in? I'm curious about what type of work you've been doing while you're here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=541.0,554.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. So I got my degree in film and video production and a minor in studio art and theater. But I work as an experimental filmmaker and, yes, my film went to a lot of festivals. I was even able to work at the Academy. So, there's a lot of things that I did that I think maybe I could use that to apply for the visa, but I really not sure with all that is going on, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=554.0,592.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: All right. Well, I'm sorry to hear that, and I hope that you will find a way to come back because, like you said, it's a good opportunity to be able to practice what you learned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=592.0,604.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah, yeah. Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=604.0,607.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Do you know anyone else, your friends or other students, that same thing happened to them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=607.0,619.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. I have a friend that was getting married, and then all this happened and now she cannot work because she's still waiting for her visa, and she doesn't know if that visa is going to be accepted, if she's gonna get her card and all that to be able to stay in United States because they stopped that process for now. And she's really worried because she cannot work until she gets that. She cannot go back to her country because they closed the airport there, so she's really waiting and doing nothing, really worried about money. Friends are helping her so best. How is she surviving during this time? But it's really hard because there's not a lot of funds already for American citizens and even more for immigrants, even more for international students, so I really don't know how people are gonna do during this time. And I have a friend, he's in California, he's from Japan, and he applied for the O-1 visa and it's been like one year already and he didn't get any answer and he's just waiting there. His visa already expired and he has no idea what he's gonna do, or even if he's going to be deported after all this happened. There's a lot of uncertainties right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=619.0,716.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: It sounds like the uncertainty has been there even before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=716.0,723.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: [Laughs] Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=723.0,723.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: It's extended the certainty with COVID-19.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=723.0,728.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. 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So, they message me and ask if my family is doing fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=732.0,753.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: So experiencing the pandemic in New York and in Brazil, how do you compare them? Which one you felt more comfortable and...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=753.0,767.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. So, in New York it was really weird because I didn't really notice that we're facing the pandemic until CUNY closed, which was March. Yeah, I think it was March. March 13 CUNY closed, and then I was like, \"Oh my God, they closed the college. What is going on?\" And then I used to live in Harlem during that time. And when I went there I saw like the streets were empty and there was no body on the trains. I went all the way to Brooklyn and into Queens to help a friend of mine, and when I got to train nobody was there. It was so empty. It was like, \"I'm in New York and this is happening and especially close to West 4th, Brooklyn still there was a lot of people in the streets Harlem too, but when it comes to like West 4th, around that area, like where you have more privileged people, [laughs] a lot of people were not outside. So it really made me worry because you could see the difference between social classes. And I really got worried because a lot of people from like working class are still on the streets and they're the ones that doesn't have a lot of resources, regarding health, regarding housing. So I really worried about both of them when I saw this, but once I got to Brazil, it was like a completely different world. Brazil, there was still going outside, there was still hanging out with their friends and I just got back from United States worried that they're going to close the airport, not going to be able to let me out or something like that. And once I got here, everything was normal. So, it was a really weird experience. It felt like a movie, but now people are getting worried because a lot of people are dying. Our president is kind of like hiding information about Coronavirus, so we don't really know how many people died of coronavirus each day. But the other day I went to the supermarket to help my parents, and I went outside and a lot of people are not using masks. People are not caring. People are just worried about seeing their friends, hanging out on the streets and it's really like a parallel situation that we're living right now, cause all of this is going on in the world and people are just acting as if nothing is happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=767.0,947.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Can you describe a little bit more how the situation shifted and changed in Queens when you were still here? And how long was it like you stayed here, for about a week or two after the college closed? Or, how long were you here for?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=947.0,966.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah, I stayed in New York for one more week and then I came to Brazil. When I was in Queens, it was really weird because at the beginning, I felt that people weren't worried about it. They thought like, \"Oh, it's only a situation that's gonna pass.\" And then, I think after three days, it already went different and a lot of people were using masks and all this neighborhood feeling that you have in Queens — which is amazing and all this community together, doing things together — I could not see that anymore when I was walking on the street. A lot of people were inside their houses or not working, so it really shifted. But at the same time in comparison to Manhattan, there's a big difference, cause you could see that, like I said, a lot of working class people were still on the streets having to work, having to do things that is their daily lives, their routines. So, I really got worried. I was like, \"Oh my God, these are the people that will not have resources to [froze/ unclear] and are still on the streets. So I start worrying about their health. And it was really weird to see that shift off Queens community, everyone in this street, helping, talking to each other. And then it's just like desert. It was really weird.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=966.0,1068.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: I bet. So, was that one of reasons that you decided to leave? Like what really got you into making the decision that you needed to leave? Even if you wanted to stay and wait for your visa?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1068.0,1085.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: It was like a lot of fact. First it was they closed CUNY ... I was working at a time during free [lends?] and I couldn't get any more jobs because usually I work on set and there was no more set. So, I couldn't get jobs at the time. CUNY closed. My internet was very bad and because I wasn't getting money, I was not going to be able to pay for housing. So, I really started getting worried about it and I start to apply for funds. And I start seeing that a lot of them were only for American citizens, which I could not apply. And, you know, cause my experience in New York, I know that as soon as something happens the government really doesn't care about immigrants, really doesn't care about minorities. So, once I saw that happening, I was like, \"I'm out. I'm not gonna stay here.\" Even though I love United States. I love the people from United States. I know is gonna really get that for minorities. And I cannot do anything if I don't have a job, if I'm not going to have housing. I moved by myself. I will not have family to help me. The dollar got very high here in Brazil, so my parents would not be able to help me cause they're also unemployed right now. So, there was nothing I could do at the time but leave. And, but I really get worried cause I was able to get out, and kind of like save me from the situation, but a lot of people weren't able to because visa problems, they're going through a process of applying for another visa. So, I really worried about them. Cause minorities are the first ones that the government doesn't care. So, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1085.0,1219.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: So, seeing the protest. [Both laugh]. That's very related to what you were talking about. Have you been following? How close, and what do you know that has been happening and how do you feel about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1219.0,1236.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. I was helping a friend of mine. He's in New York still and he's proceeding and he cannot speak English. So, he was sending me the videos that he did. He's a journalist and he was sending me the videos from Black Lives Matter and I was translating to Portuguese because there's a lot of situations going on in Brazil as it always did. The police also is very racist here. And, I was translating that in Portuguese so people here could be informed, as well. And I was following everything that was going on, but at the same time, it's so hard to really follow cause sometimes the media — the information they show sometimes are already very biased. So, I was glad that we had a lot of alternative media that was showing what was going on in the protest and that it wasn't something, \"Oh my God, let's get violent and destroy the United States.\" It was really fighting for their own rights. And I think that I following this alternative type of media was really good to see and really informative. And I'm very glad that we have to [unclear] medias. And I'm really for it. It was so funny, cause I talked to a lot of my American friends and there were against it. They were like, \"Oh my God, you know, this are good police officers and people are going against them,\" you know? And I just send them some videos of the police hitting protesters and arresting protestors. And it's really crazy for me because it's something that we have in Brazil. It's something that we have everyday: violence between minorities and between police officers. I'm in Brazil and we're all Latinos, but of course there's a ethnicity difference and segregation just how it is in Brazil or in United States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1236.0,1372.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: So, um, Yeah, I was really for it. And then my friends were like, \"Oh my God is all about violence.\" And I really could not understand this point of view because minorities are being oppressed in New York since New York started being New York, and they're also the ones that constructed New York the way that it is. And they're really the people that make New York New York and still we have this kind of view that immigrants, that minorities, \"Oh my God, they're being so violent after years of being oppressed.\" So, I think it's really weird, this kind of view that I have of being an immigrant and the views that even my very liberal friends, American friends that they say they're liberal, they're against the protest. So that really makes me wonder why.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1372.0,1443.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: It sounds like you've been seeing a different face of America that you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1443.0,1449.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Oh yeah. It's very funny actually because in Brazil we have a lot of people sell this idea — I think that this idea is actually very sold in South America in general — that United States is the best place, like, \"Oh my God, you have to live here in United States because if you go to United States, you made it, like you're done with your life,\" you know? And even for me, I was always socially, politically engaged. And even for me, when I went to United States, I was like, \"Oh my God, I'm Latina. I'm not part of this.\" Everywhere I would go, people will ask me like, \"Oh, where are you from? I can hear an accent.\" Many times I would hear people telling me,\"You know, I'm not gonna pay you for your job because you're not professional because you have an accent. You have to get better in your English.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1449.0,1514.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: [Laughs] And it's like, \"I did your service. I did everything you asked me to do. Why are you not going to pay me? Just because my voice or just because of words?\" So I really went through a lot of situations. There was a moment that I didn't have housing, that I had to stay at my friend's place because I didn't have one yet. I could not get a job. I didn't have money to be able to stay in United States, but I had to finish my college. So I really went through a lot of situations that showed me that I was not really welcomed in New York. And it really hurts me because, even I was there [as an] international student. Okay. I'm there for four years, but it was very sad to talk to other people that [they have been in] United States since — I don't know — since they were 5 and they had to move to New York, but they're not from here, they're not Americans. And they still feel the same way that I felt. So that goes to [laughs] all minority groups. They mostly don't feel part of the United States. They feel excluded everyday and they have to fight that. It's just really crazy to me to see reality. And then this image that they sell, of United States of, \"Oh, the place of freedom. The place of Liberty.\" And then you talk to people that are Americans and they're part of minorities and you see that there's not really that type of freedom that they sell to you. You know? I'm so glad that all of this is happening, in the sense of like, I hope that government changes. And I really hope that we start getting more attention when it comes to inequalities and when it comes to all the oppression that minorities suffer United States, and that makes people think about what happens and how United States really is when it comes to minorities oppression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1514.0,1651.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: But you mentioned that what the mass media is showing and then what the community is really reporting there is a huge difference. Can you tell me a little bit what differences you've seen and how does that affect what you see as a change happening?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1651.0,1673.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. When it comes to community media, I'd been seeing a lot of videos showing, pull this brutality and people just protesting and then the police gets there and start hitting them, arresting them just because they're protesting and they're not really doing anything. And then at the same time, I see a part of videos that are showing like people destroying stores and going against the police and putting fire on things. And it's really, like, you can see that there is a huge difference between both. And it makes me feel that it's really being biased in the sense of like, it wants to make you feel a certain way. So when they show people destroying stores, and they show people destroying stores of a small business and putting fire on like the police station and stuff like that, it really started making you feel like, \"Oh my God, look how bad these people are. They're destroying United States. Look what they're doing. Oh my God.\" And then at the same time, you see the videos from people just protesting and just really going against this oppression that happens — I don't know, God knows when that started — and you see both, and it's really weird because when I see both, when I get informed by both, I can see how bias there are. And still because of my own experience, I go for, I protect, the protest experience and I really support that. But when some of my American friends, they see both, they're like, \"Oh my God, they're doing this protest to be violent. They're doing this protest to go to the stores and just steal things.\" So it's really interesting when it comes to culture in that sense and on experiences, because you can see the same material and still people are gonna support more one than the other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1673.0,1813.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: I also think it was very interesting to see a lot of years of the police kneeling down and supporting protesters, uh, because some people were like, \"Oh, you see, the police is not bad. You guys are just screaming for nothing. You guys are just being violent for nothing. The police is not bad. Like you just are saying more than actually happens.\" So it's really weird that I saw the same material as these people that are seeing these things. And I really don't see that, you know? Uh, yeah. So that's the big difference that I noticed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1813.0,1855.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: So what Brazilian say and think about the US today? Knowing that the reality and the curtain got lifted and people are seeing outside of the West, that their is as much injustice and oppression here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1855.0,1871.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. It's interesting cause for Brazilian people — And I think that mostly all like South American people — we always see like America as a big example. And sometimes we even forget about things that are going on in our own society, because we're so worried about Iraq or so worried about United States that we forget like, \"Oh yeah, this is going on since Brazil is Brazil.\" [Amira laughs] Since these protests are going on in United States. And all this situation is going on in United States, some people they're pointing out finally police brutality in Brazil. The other day, like, it's crazy because here we have favelas [?] and a lot of like minorities, they live there, and the police would just go there and shot people like everyday, just because there were black people in there and they think they're criminals. And since that happened United States, the favelas [?], like the community of the favelas [?], they closed the favelas. And they're trying to avoid that the police go and saw it. And they're trying to avoid that people going inside, because they're really trying to protect their own community. Just like they're saying that is happening in United States. And I think it's great that this is happening and is serving as an example for Brazilian people to do that too, because there's a huge ethnicity difference here as well. So it really serves that an example, which was great, but at the same time, I feel that some paperwork they're just so focused in the United States and they're posting pictures supporting what is going on in United States. But when it comes to Brazil, they're not really seeing what is going on in their own country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1871.0,1999.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: So you don't see that will also impact what's happening in Brazil? Do you see that there will be any big uprising there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=1999.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Oh yeah. The other day we had a protest in San Paulo. I'm in San Paulo right now. And we had a protest in San Paulo and a lot of people were telling the protesters, \"Don't go because the coronavirus is really bad here. We don't have health insurance as well. We don't have a lot of support. We don't have even equipments to test if we have coronavirus or not. So just stay at home, try to do activism in another way.\" But people were just feeling that what is going on? Like you have to do something about it. So they went out to protest and some people got coronavirus, so this situation even got worse. It's a really tricky position, cause — me too, I really want to go outside. I want to fight for all the inequality that is going on and has been going on since forever. But at the same time, it's like, I don't want to risk other people's life because of that. So it's really tricky because in the meantime, coronavirus is happening and it's really getting stronger in Brazil. So it was really hard to deal with both.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2010.0,2090.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Yeah, definitely it is very not easy, not easy which one you choose: go out and protest for your own rights and risk your life or protect yourself from COVID-19. But it doesn't mean if you're a minority, that's going to protect you from death.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2090.0,2118.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. It's also cause those minorities are the ones that mostly doesn't have resources, to go to a good hospital and recover from coronavirus that have access to the test. So it's very tricky because these people that are going outside to protest are also the people that are not going to have the resources to recover from coronavirus. So I don't know. It feels that the protesting right now is really not going outside and trying to survive and going against what the government is trying to do. That feels like the biggest protest right now, is like just trying to survive as a minority in Brazil. Yeah, it's really tricky. And when I see the video studies going on United States, I also worried. When I saw the video of a lot of people in Times Square, I was like, \"This is beautiful. Everyone's just on the streets protesting.\" But at the same time, I was like, \"Oh my God. Is coronvirus...\" Like, I don't know the situation there because there are so many people close to each other and made me worried as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2118.0,2194.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Right. Would you have been out on the street if you were in New York protesting?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2194.0,2203.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: [Laughing] Honestly, I told my parents, I was like, \"I'm glad that I was able to come here first cause I would not be able to stay in New York.\" But even in a hypothetical world that I would be able to stay in New York. I'm glad I'm not there cause I would probably get deported. [laughing]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2203.0,2225.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: You were scared of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2225.0,2227.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. I would totally be outside. I cannot see all that going on and just being inside my house and not doing anything. Like I would totally be outside. And that makes me worry too cause when I see things like that happening, even though I could get deported or anything, like I just cannot, stay home. So I would totally go outside and probably get deported [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2227.0,2256.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: What's happening here, does it make you exchange your mind about the US and the image that you have of it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2256.0,2266.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: No, because I had this image of United States being perfect when I was in Brazil. Once I moved to New York, I totally realized what was going on there. And I totally realized that this type of freedom that they talk about and this type of like, \"Oh, is the place of opportunities for minorities.\" It's really not true. Once I moved to New York, I, being [an] international student, Latina women, I already realized that United States wasn't the way that people say United States is. I'm so glad that minorities are going on the streets and really showing like what is going on here. And that it's not okay to have United States being the way it is. So it wasn't a shock for me, cause I totally could see United States the way it is. It's a very good shock that people are out there protesting and going against oppression and doing all this. It really gives me hope that America, one day, will be better than it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2266.0,2352.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: What would make you still want to come back to the US if you see that the US government is a totalitarian, segregative government, as much as Brazil, what really motivate you to feel like you want to be here rather than there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2352.0,2371.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: That's a really good question. [laughs] That's something I always ask myself. Here, a list with everything that is going on, like I am from here. For example, being an immigrant, it's totally different, the experience. People don't come and ask me like, \"Oh, where are you from? Like, you're not getting your payment because you have an accent.\" I'm from here. So, I'm fine. But I really love United States, not in the sense that people sell United States to us of like being the place of freedom and being the place of opportunities. I love the real United States, which is like a lot of minorities getting together, fighting against oppression. For example, what is going on right now, for me, this is why I love the United States because you have all these minorities fighting for United States, fighting for a better country. And here in Brazil we're still not doing that because we still have this feeling that we shouldn't fight for your country. We should just go to Europe or just go to United States because Brazil is already done, like there's nothing you can do. This is a huge difference between the United States and Brazil, because Brazil already started in the wrong way with colonizers coming here and stealing, like killing native people and just the same in United States. But I don't know. The United States still have this feeling of people fighting every day in communities, getting together, and here in Brazil, I think we're still very segregated. Communities are really not getting together so much as the United States. So I really love United States. And although there's a lot of things wrong there, I really loved the United States because of its people, not because of this image of the United States being like the best place in the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2371.0,2518.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: I'm so curious to ask you this question. You might not know the answer, but do you think that the whole experience of being immigrant and coming together with other immigrant is what makes the experience unique rather than the place?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2518.0,2534.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah, totally. Totally. Because I think that I would not be able to see things the way I see now and have all this perspectives that I have if I didn't go to United States. So, my parents, sometimes they even tell me like, \"Oh my God, why did you go to New York? There was sometimes you didn't have housing and you didn't have money. You have to face people saying like, Oh, you have an accent? So why would you like to be in the place that treats you like that?\" And I always think that it is because of community. It is because of other immigrants. It is because of minorities. Like when I was going through a lot of hard situations, it was always Latinos. It was always black people. It was always Asian people that helped me to go through those situations. And they didn't have to do that at all because a lot of people don't help them, but they just really cared. And they just really there for you. And I don't know that's for me, what should be America? It should be a place that people help each other, not people excluding each other and oppressing each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2534.0,2615.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: So what people have been saying to you in Brazil about this shattered illusion of the American dream and the fact that they see it now, not any different from Brazil, what are the things that you have been hearing and from people around you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2615.0,2635.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: They think I'm crazy. They think I wasted opportunity. And they think like, I'm very critical of United States. They still think United States is the best place in the world. And I —","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2635.0,2648.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Even after the seeing the protests?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2648.0,2650.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2650.0,2650.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"New Speaker: And the police brutality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2650.0,2654.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah, Yeah. They're like, \"I don't know what happens.\" It's a process that has been there since forever. Like, you turn on the radio, you don't hear a lot of Brazilian songs. You hear American songs, you hear European songs. So it's always like this culture difference. Like, \"Oh, you live in Brazil, but you live as if you were part of American community or part of European community.\" So I think it's like a really hard thing for them to acknowledge. And like I said, even that I'm aware of things, when I went to United States, that's when I noticed that I'm Latina. Like I would not understand what that means until I went to United States. So yeah, even seeing all of that is going on, people start romanticizing what is going on instead of seeing like, \"Oh my God, this is bad. We have to fight about it.\" It's like we have people that are in favor of it saying like, \"Oh my God, look, that's so beautiful. People are fighting for freedom.\" And then they don't do anything about their own country. So I'm like, you're just romanticizing as if we were like in the sixties, seventies. And you're like, \"Oh my God, this is so cool\" [laughs] instead of doing something. It's really weird that people feel this way in Brazil, they really romanticize Western culture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2654.0,2750.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Yep. I know what you mean [both laugh] I'm an immigrant myself and I come from a country that it's a third world country. And I do hear a lot of different questioning today about what's the US. I have friends and family members that call me and they're like, \"What is happening?\" [Fernanda laughs] And I'm like, \"Well, this is America. You just didn't see it before.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2750.0,2777.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. And I'm glad that finally they're sharing that on media. For example, I used to work actually at Third World Newsreel and they're so amazing. They supported the black Panthers during the sixties. I love those things. I love places that are always trying to support community since day one. And it's very interesting cause they have this type of media it's always been there. You have medias made by minorities for minorities and still people don't really talk about reality. People don't really talk about the oppression, but everyone knows it's there. So I'm glad that this type of things are going on on media and people are seeing like, \"Oh, this is reality. This is going on right now. And it's not like a movie from the sixties.\" So I hope that it changes the perception of protests and going against the government and all of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2777.0,2851.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you very much Fernanda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2851.0,2858.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2858.0,2858.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Do you have anything else you'd like to add particularly about Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2858.0,2867.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: About Queens? I actually wonder how it's going on in Flushing cause I'm worried about people being against like Asian community in Flushing. Especially Flushing, I'm very worried about what is going on there. Cause I know some crazy people they're like, \"\"Oh my God, this is all China's fault. And I really worried how the community is doing. I hope like everyone is well protected.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2867.0,2901.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: It doesn't sound like you have friends that are still there, that you can get some of the updates from them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2901.0,2909.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah. No. I have some friends, they live in Woodside and actually Corona, but I don't have anyone that lives in Flushing right now. So, I really don't know. And I really hope it's not that bad there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2909.0,2927.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Yeah. Yeah. I hope so too. Yep. Yep. Alright. Well, thank you very much Fernanda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2927.0,2934.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: My pleasure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2934.0,2937.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: We'll share the interview with Queens Memory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2937.0,2941.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2941.0,2943.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Once it's done, I think it would be public. I'll keep you updated myself. I'll make sure when they share it with me, once it's on the website, I will share it with you. And I'd love to hear that you will be able to come back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2943.0,2965.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah, me too. [laughter] I really hope.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2965.0,2965.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Hopefully something comes up here. Like you said, you're not the only one. A lot of people decided to leave because it's hard to be here as a foreigner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2965.0,2976.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Yeah, It's really a hard time. Even people that are there right now, they have no idea what it's going to be. Alright.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2976.0,2984.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: You have a great evening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2984.0,2989.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: You too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2989.0,2989.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: And then I hope I'll talk to you sometime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2989.0,2994.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: We will. Take care. Stay safe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2994.0,2997.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2997.0,2998.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fernanda Parrado: Bye-Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2998.0,2999.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829/transcript/35423/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amira Karaoud: Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/56194/file/148829#t=2999.0,3001.8"}]}]}]}