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It's like some questions I have, but yeah, we'll get started pretty soon. I'm going to give the slate really quickly, cause we started recording. It's just today's date, which is today is Monday, August 17th, 2020. My name is Obden Mondesir and I am with Anisha P. Clarke. Anisha, do you mind spelling your name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=11.0,51.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: My name is spelled A-N-I-S-H-A as in apple. And my last name is Clarke, C-L-A-R-K-E.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=51.0,64.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: All right. And do you mind telling me the year that you were born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=64.0,69.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: I was born in 1983.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=69.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: All right. And could you tell me a little bit about where you grew up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=72.0,80.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Okay. So I grew up in a village called Boca and that's in Grenada, Southern Caribbean, a few miles north of Trinidad. So I'm trying to think of what else I should say about where I grew up. Working class people. My parents worked in the city, so I went to school in a city in Grenada and St. George's where most students, most children went to school at a local school. And I think that's it. I dunno if you have a specific question about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=80.0,125.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Yeah, if you could tell me more about the neighborhood, what the people were like, demographics, like what memories do you have of the place? Or I guess to like— [crosstalk] Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=125.0,145.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So, I mean, in terms of demographics where Grenada is mostly people of African descent. So most of us are Black people. Again, people for the most part, people farmed. But you had some people who worked. What else can I think? I think, you know our houses are really close by, so we're really close to our neighbors. People kind of share, but I didn't go to school in the neighborhood. So I had very little friends there. My friends were mostly the friends that I went to school with. So I had a few friends who were my immediate neighbors, but for the most part, I sort of socialized outside of my village.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=145.0,201.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And could you tell me, like, what kind of work did your parents do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=201.0,208.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Oh, so my mother worked with the government, so she was, as she would say, a public service worker. And so for all of her work life with the government, she was a receptionist. So she worked at switchboards, and my dad was a printer. So he worked first in his family's printery and then for the government printery.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=208.0,233.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And could you describe the profession of a printer a little more?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=233.0,241.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So, the printery is where the government will print all its documents. So they handled, I remember him being very busy during budget season. So all the documents that the government sends out to its different constituents, they handled that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=241.0,267.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=267.0,269.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So I mean his family business, when he was, I guess, as an apprentice as a teenager was to handle like a print shop would do here. People would go to get flyers and books and different kinds of documents printed if you need to make a poster, that sort of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=269.0,293.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay. And did you have any brothers or sisters growing up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=293.0,297.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Yes. So I have an older brother and a younger sister.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=297.0,306.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And so before you mentioned that you were closer to the other kids that you went to school with and that you went to school outside of your village. Could you tell me the name of the school you attended and what it was like? Elementary school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=306.0,327.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Yeah. So our elementary school was an all girls Catholic school and again, I said in the town, we wore a Kimona. It's a uniform, so we wore uniforms. We were all girls. Our principal was a nun, a Catholic nun. And I would say, very strict kind of school experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=327.0,354.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: What was the name of the school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=354.0,356.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So I'm trying to remember the exact name. Its nickname is Mother Rose. Cause I think it was named after a nun whose name was Rose. So Mother Rose. Oh, it was called St. Louis RC Girl School, RC for Roman Catholic, but its nickname was Mother Rose named after a nun. When you're about 10 or 11 years old, we didn't have have grades then, so it was called standard. So it was like a standard one, standard two. You had your what would probably be kindergarten, and then first grade. So I think it'll be sixth grade. When you get to that point, you take what's called common entrance exam. So it's a regional exam. So cause other islands, their students did the same thing. Other islands close to us, it's called common entrance and it's an exam that you take to go to high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=356.0,419.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": And so you get to choose, you get to pick I think, three to five high schools of your choice. And if you do really well, you get your first choice. And there's a cutoff score. If you don't pass, you don't go to high school, you continue on and along the path of like just vocational school. So not everyone went to high school. And so I passed, got my first choice, which was an all girls high school, which was the neighbor. So it was a convent. It's called St. Joseph's Convent in St George's. And it's like literally in the same yard as my elementary school. And there too, our principal was a nun, so it was a Roman Catholic school for all girls. We wore uniforms like a pleated skirt and a tie. And there, we spent five years, so by the time I was 16, I graduated from high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=419.0,487.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay, and that would've been in 1999. And could you describe like what do you remember about going to St Louis's RC Girls? What do you remember about the students? What do you remember about the teachers? Yeah, any experiences that you could share?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=487.0,516.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Yeah. So I think I have in terms of memories, they're not like memories that are near and dear and close to my heart kind of memories when I think about my experience, but I do remember two, maybe three teachers. So my very first teacher who I remember just being very, very strict. And then I remember we're in standard one, so maybe that was second grade, so she was another teacher who, again, we just didn't get along. So those are the memories I have, and then in my standard three, which would probably be fifth grade, maybe or fourth grade, I had this teacher who was just lovely. Her name was Ms. Mitchell. I could remember how she was just not like many other teachers who would, she would correct us, but it was not in a very strict and what we felt like then mean way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=516.0,585.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": She didn't send us to like the principal office cause back then your principal could hit you. So you would go and you can get lashes for things. She made cheese straws, which is like, I guess it's like a type of tea pastry that she sold. So we would help sell. And it was like the privilege to help her to sell these things. I mean, you think back to that now and you're like, was that even legal? But we would help her sell and then we would get some. She taught me how to write, so my penmanship, I owed to her. She just had such beautiful handwriting. She was very patient and she came to school all the time with a very happy spirit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=585.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": She was also Christian and I think back then we thought because she was a Christian, and a very staunch one at that, we thought that we could often sort of experience what it was like to be someone who's really religious. She was very forgiving. She was full of grace and that sort of thing. And then in my final year in elementary school where I had to take exams to go to high school, my standard one teacher was the teacher then. So again, we just didn't get along. I almost felt like she just didn't like me for whatever reason. And so those are sort of the memories that I have. We used to have an assembly every morning and different grades would take turns running those assemblies every week. And I remember, one year my class put on a performance of Sister Act and that was really, really fun. And so my friend who was the leader, we're still friends today. She was just always a very dynamic person and turns out she's a very dynamic adult in everything that she does. So I think now that we're having these conversations, those are the memories that I have about elementary school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=630.0,708.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=708.0,709.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: But they're not like memories that I, I don't often think about that school. I guess if people ask, if I had to rate how well the school, did to prepare me, I would say they did a great job because I was able to go on and get my first choice in high school. And then when I got there, I was able to be amongst the children who came from private schools, who their parents paid for them to go to school and somewhat have, I think more resources than we do, but I was able to, we used to have positions. So, at the end of each quarter, in this semester, you get a report card and you would rank, so if there were 30 kids in your class, you ranked from one to 30, depending on where your average was. And I remember when I started high school, I was ranking with the kids who came from the private schools. So I would say I owe some of that to them in terms of how well they prepared me academically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=709.0,773.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And what was the connection with your parents to school? Were they like actively engaged in your education? Yeah, I guess, what was that like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=773.0,794.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So neither of my parents went to high school, so they both have elementary-level education, but my mother would always say that she watched what her supervisors did for their children and tried to give us the same thing. So while they weren't really able to help with homework, per se, my parents paid for me to get extra lessons after school, whether or not I needed it. I mean, I did very well, but I remember getting lessons in english, language, and in math, after school. So they supported our education very much. My mother was very involved. There was not a PTA meeting that she missed. She went to all of them. And so I would say while they weren't able to, I don't know if they were able to, or too busy, but they would ask questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=794.0,848.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": Like, did you do your homework already? If they saw you watching TV, did you do your homework? Did you do your math? And so I know that they were very committed to our education. So I graduated high school in '99, my mother was able to get me like sort of like a, I guess, an internship at her job. And there was time for me to move on to college. And my internship was after college, but I'm remember her helping me to find the people that I needed to speak to, so I could sign up. We had a two year college. We have a two year college at home, like a community college that I went to. When it was time for me to come here, she was very involved in trying to help me find scholarships, so both of my parents passed away by the way. So that's why I'm speaking about them in the past tense and very supportive, very involved, in our school lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=848.0,909.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay. And so it's 1999 and you've graduated from high school and you're getting ready to go into the college in your community. What is the name of the school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=909.0,925.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So that's actually the only community college in Grenada and it's called T.A. Marryshow. I don't remember who he is. I should probably look that up, who it's named after, but it's called T.A. Marryshow Community College. The nickname, we call it TAMCC.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=925.0,953.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And could you tell me of your experience there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=953.0,959.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Yeah, so let's see. So I remember signing up for some strange reason, I decided I was gonna do the sciences. I shouldn't say strange reason, because that was my plan, right? I wanted to go to medical school, and so I remember them saying to me that I had passed. So at the end of high school, we take exams. I would say they're sort of like Regents exams, but again, they're regional. So we call them CXC exams, C-X-C, and it's part of like a Caribbean council. So if you speak to someone from Jamaica, they may have taken the same exam. And so you get to choose which courses you wanna sit, and of course has to be approved. And I remember taking seven, many of my friends took like 12 and 13, but I remember at 16, 15, 16, I didn't see the need to take so many exams.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=959.0,1021.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": I took only the ones that I was interested in. I passed them all, but my highest grades were in math and the sciences. I didn't do great in English because in fact, I wasn't allowed to take the general English cause my English teacher was, I don't think she was great. She was good at recognizing which children, and what students were great writers and could pass, but she was not good at helping students get there in my opinion. And so I think one of the things that the students from, say, the private schools had was that they had access to more writing skills and books and reading. And I think that was something growing up that I didn't do much of. So I just think that I wasn't a great writer, at least so I thought, and so she had me take the basic English and though I did really well in that, my community college didn't accept it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1021.0,1078.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": But somehow, I think maybe because of my mother's support, I was able to go in and I think I had said, oh, I'm gonna take it the next year. And so I took chemistry, I think, physics, math, and we had something called communication in college. So those were the four courses that I took. So when you sign up, it wasn't necessarily a major per se, but it was, I guess, an area that you were gonna focus on. And so I focused on the sciences. And so at the end, you'll take advanced level. They call A level exams from Cambridge, so then we took similar exams to kids in England. And so cause Grenada was an English colony, so I guess that's where that comes from. And then I did the best in all of those in math, again, doing really well with the students who went to private schools. I think my college, my parents was not as like, they paid my fees, but when I got there and I got my first report card, like I didn't know what a GPA was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1078.0,1143.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": Like, those are things that I think kids whose parents went to college, they had a better sense of. And so I think I struggled a bit in college just because my parents just didn't know how to support me. Like there was no PTA anymore. There were no conversations with teachers. I kind of went, I did what I saw my friends do. But I think I kind of floated through college, not really knowing much about what I needed to do, but somehow, I graduated. And I think my GPA wasn't really high, because I didn't know what it meant to study. I didn't know what it meant to spend hours in the library doing work because again, nobody told me these things. So that college I graduated in 2001. Do you have any questions about college before we move along?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1143.0,1196.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: I guess, in regards, like what was Grenada like in the late nineties? Could you provide a description of that? Like—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1196.0,1214.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Hmm. What do you mean in terms of—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1214.0,1217.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Were there any events that were happening at the time that you recalled while going to school? I guess like an example for me is like I was in college at the time that Barack Obama got elected. So that was a huge moment. And there was like the Sean Bell shooting that happened, I think in my second year. And that was cause I went to school in Queens so I remember that moment. So like, were there moments like that come to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1217.0,1255.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: No, I can't think of anything. No, I mean, I think perhaps like a storm or something that caused us to have to move classes, but other than that, nothing politically. I mean, Grenada is pretty much stable in terms of politics and governments and things like that. So I don't remember anything outstanding at the moment. Like there was no kind of unrest or, our crime rate is really low in Grenada, so there was nothing that I felt I can recall that was this defining moment. When I was born, but yeah, I was born, and I didn't experience this myself cause I was only a few months old. Grenada is known for, we had like a revolution. We had like a coup d’état, like if you kind of look up like America invading our country, that happened that year that I was born.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1255.0,1326.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": So my mother's very revolutionary in that way. Cause she'll tell you that she was like in the civilian army, and so in our household there was always conversations about politics. So my mother would constantly talk about, like she had her party that she rooted for. And so I think at the time when I was in college, the party that she rooted for that stemmed from the revolution was not in power. So there was always, in my household, this conversation of the government not caring for poor people, and so when I had to go to college, my mother would go straight to the Prime Minister's office to get whatever it is she needed, because she felt like, people in our area didn't get the support because most people in our area, in our village were revolutionaries and supported the revolution. So outside of like, people having sides and their side not being empowering them, just not being happy with the economy and the education. There was nothing dynamic that I could remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1326.0,1397.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay. So in 2001 you've graduated from college. What happens after that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1397.0,1406.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So that summer, so that summer. Yeah. So I graduated that summer. My mother got me an internship. It was sort of like a youth work program at her job and I worked in the registry, so the government's registry and with some other young people. And I do recall that. I mean I learned a few things here and there, but the one thing that I remember now that I'm talking to you is this woman called Miss Sandy. So Miss Sandy was, what was she then? Yeah, she was in charge of that office. I didn't see her often, but whenever I did, she just left this very lasting impact on me because she was this very like stately woman who spoke very well. I mean, her chest was always upright either when she spoke, so her voice, she projected. And I remember thinking that I wanted to speak like her, because whenever she spoke, I just saw how people would stop whatever they're doing and they'll listen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1406.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": She was always clear, very powerful when she spoke. And so I had to, I interviewed for a job at the university. So Grenada has a medical school. That's an American school, but it's on our island, and it's one of those sort of prestigious jobs that you could get. And so I remember going to interview, but I remember in my interview speaking very much like Miss Sandy, because again, just how she carried herself to me was very impressive. And so I was the youngest of all the people who went for this job, but I was the person who got called back for it. The problem was that I don't know that I had enough skills, so I spoke well, but I don't know that I had all the right skills. So I struggled. Like we didn't have a computer at home at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1470.0,1521.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": So I think I started this job just basically knowing how to turn on the computer and maybe how to type a little bit, but in terms of like all this Microsoft Suite, like Excel and so on, I did not know. And so when I got the job, the office I worked for, they were moving the public health office. So they were moving location and everyone cause the faculty are American. They all left on vacation and the person who was my supervisor, I guess the executive assistant in the office, she also went on vacation. So I was by myself trying to run an office with no real skills. And so I got put into this building that had no electricity at the time. There was dust everywhere. So I just thought in my 19 year old mind, 20 year old mind, that I'm just gonna go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1521.0,1579.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": I was 19 cause I graduated at 18. So I was about 19. And I just kind of hung out with other friends that I met and didn't do anything. So when my boss came back from vacation, I got put on probation. And I'll never forget how I felt that, it was just not fair that I just started working. I had no idea what to do. One of the faculty complained that she'd given me some like numbers to type in Excel and they were all a mess and in any case, I made that plea for myself again, thinking about who my mother was, cause she was someone who stood up for herself and then thinking about Miss Sandy and so I represented myself really well. And so I wasn't fired, but I was put on probation and I remember just thinking how I had to learn everything I needed to learn. So I signed up for every workshop, sort of clerical workshop that I could, and just worked hard. And I worked there, I think when did I come here? I came here in 2004. So I worked there until the end of 2003. But in the meantime while I was there, I would interact with students and I think that's why I decided that cause they were mostly American students. And so that's when I decided I wanted to come here for school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1579.0,1660.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: In 2003, you decided to come here for school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1660.0,1664.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So I started to, I had to work through the process of applying, getting a student visa to come here, cause while I had family here, I didn't have a green card. So I had to, go through and, and again, at work, I had the internet, I didn't have a computer at home, but I had access to one at work. And while I was there would apply, and naturally I think most Caribbean people, when you come here, if you're coming to New York, you apply to the City University. And so I didn't have family who really helped me with that process. I just kind of went on online, looked it up, thought about what it is I wanted to do. And for some reason I didn't choose math. I chose computer science and I saw that City College was the place to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1664.0,1718.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": But nonetheless I picked, I think you get to pick five CUNY campuses connected with the international students office, got the paperwork. I had to travel to Barbados to get the student visa cause we don't have a U.S. embassy in Grenada. So all of that worked out and I had family who lived in Queens, but I didn't know how far City College would be from where my family lived in Queens. And so I came here January of 2004. It was a terrible winter, I mean terrible winter. So that was tough, coming. I remember walking up that hill to City College and just crying and thinking. And it was so cold that I couldn't even feel my tears, but I was crying and just thinking, gosh, I should have gone to UWI instead. So the University of the West Indies and like, why am I in this cold?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1718.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": But my mother just continued to, push, just push through. I had a class, I think in computer science, where the faculty member, the professor was just not nice. I remember him making, cause I remember telling you that I have this beautiful cursive handwriting that Ms. Mitchell taught us and I would write in cursive only. And it was surprising to me that I think at home, most people after you've finish your third standard would write in cursive if you're writing formally. So it's surprising that people wrote script when I came here, but he would make fun of my cursive because the way that I write my C he said, looks like a L and E. And so when I would write a code or program, instead of giving me feedback on that, he would call me LA Lark. And I just remember feeling like I just didn't belong. So I did well in my Calculus class at City College and it just became too much cause my commute was like two hours. Mind you, I registered for eight o'clock class at City College and I'm coming from Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1770.0,1843.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Do you know what part of Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1843.0,1848.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So I lived, I guess Jamaica, Queens. I dunno if, Hillside on Parsons.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1848.0,1855.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Yeah, yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1855.0,1856.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Right. So I would go there and take the F train. It was walking distance and so I signed up for an 8 o'clock class. So that meant that most mornings I had to get up at five so I could, get ready, and get to City College. I had to learn the trains, cause I came here the month that I started school, so I didn't have much time to acclimate myself to the weather and the commute. So I was trying to do all of those and I just remember being so tired. I'm coming home. I would fall asleep on the train and the doorman in our building, we're talking, he said, there's a college right up the block like Queens College is not far. So I thought about transferring, but then because of that bad experience I had with computer science, I decided that I would transfer and major in math.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1856.0,1915.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": I had good, very good math grades. I was still asked to take the entrance test and I'm not sure why, but I took it. I did really well and so I think I was placed when I came to college, I was placed at Calculus II even though I had already taken it. But there was one topic that wasn't covered at City College. So I had to retake that and again, at City College I got placed right into Calculus because of the scores on the entrance test and also the scores on my transcript from my college. So that's how I ended up at Queens College.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1915.0,1958.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And you transferred in 2005 or—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1958.0,1963.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: 2004. So I did one semester at City College and then in fall of 2004, I started at Queens College.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1963.0,1971.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay. And I guess tell me, what did you think of Queens at the time like first like the area and then yeah, let's stick with that. What did you think of Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1971.0,1985.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Oh, I mean, before I came here for school, I used to visit in the summer. So between, I think the first time I came to the U.S. on a visitor's visa was in like summer of '92. And so I would visit, I think I visited between the time I came for school and '92, I traveled to the U.S. a few times and so I would stay with my family in that same apartment. And one of the highlights I remember would be going to the Avenue, Jamaica Avenue. So our family shopped there a lot, and one of the things I think I actually developed from being on the Avenue was my love for hip hop. So there was always guys outside selling tapes, and I would buy some of those. I would take them back home with me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=1985.0,2042.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": And I remember one time meeting the Lost Boys at the Coliseum. And so they're one of my favorite rap groups. And I think again at the time I didn't have cable when I first started traveling here. So I didn't have access to this stuff. I just, I'm coming here in the summer, developed this love for going to the Avenue, the Jamaican beef patty, the women doing hair, like my mother will come and she'll get her hair cut in all these styles. The smell of, like they sell the kabobs on the Ave. I don't even know if they still do that. Jimmy Jazz and all those different stores, like going and getting, clothes and shopping. So I was actually very fond of the area. I also know that there was some gang activity in the nineties in that area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2042.0,2094.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": So we didn't go to the Ave by ourselves, you know. My family went with us and we were told to avoid certain areas. So like there was a park where, we would walk by the park, but we wouldn't go at Highland Park. There was a high school on our block called Hillcrest, so, you would see the kids and you would hear like, my aunt would talk about how it used to be a good high school, but it wasn't anymore. So I wasn't really allowed to hang out outside when I came to visit. And then when I came here at 18 and 19, I came in 2004, but I was turning 21. Yeah, but even so I would go to the Avenue, but I just thought, I had to be really careful. But I just enjoyed all the sight and sounds and smells of going to the Avenue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2094.0,2158.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And could you tell me once you transferred to Queens College, what was Queens College like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2158.0,2168.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So what was Queens College like? I think I sort of, I went to the college and again, just because of how I think I was socialized at home, like I went there very focused to do what it is I came to this country to do. And so I didn't get involved much initially, but before I came here, I remember buying the book, College Rules. And so I read it from cover to cover, and all the things that I felt like I needed to do and get involved in, I did. So I'm a kind of checklist person. So I go to the office and I think in Grenada, you don't really pay attention to people's microaggressions, because most of us are Black. There is colorism, of course, but at least in my household, we're not afraid of asking for what we need. In fact, that's one of the things that I got from my mother. Whatever things you need, you need to communicate. And so I went to offices, very boldly to say here, I'm an international student. So naturally I had to work with international student office a lot. And I think when people didn't give me the answers that I wanted, I just went somewhere else. I didn't think anything of it. Now, in retrospect, I could see how some of those things could have been acts of racism or ageism or whatever ism and schism you could think about. But I don't think I let that stop me because my thing is, I'm gonna ask for what I want and if you don't give it to me, I'm gonna go somewhere else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2168.0,2268.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": And so I don't really remember needing something and not getting it. If I asked and I didn't get it, I just asked [unclear]. I remember thinking that the campus was beautiful much unlike City College. There's a lot of greenery. You know, there are sites, you could see the city line. So I remember feeling this sense of, I wanna say welcome, but I don't know if I relied on anybody for it, if you know what I mean? Like I just made it my space. And then I also, from the book that I read, I knew that I needed to make use of resources that were offered to me. So even though I did really well, I would go to the math lab if I needed, if I had a question. I went to the writing center because I thought, English wasn't, writing wasn't my strong suit and turns out I did really well here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2268.0,2326.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": And I think it's just because the people are taught to write differently here and people pay attention to different things. So in Grenada it was, how can you string like beautiful vocabulary together? I think when I read people's essays home, now, it just doesn't feel straightforward because there's a lot about the kinds of words you use. And whereas here, I felt like there was a formula for me to write. So when you are in English Composition class, you're given you have a thesis statement, you have this. And I was able to follow that really well and turns out I did really well in writing, but even so I went to the writing center. I went to the Student Life Office as well. Something I read about that you should do. And so I became involved in student life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2326.0,2375.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": They had these leadership retreats that I would take advantage of that were really great. We would get to go away for a weekend. And then I joined the Caribbean Club. I joined the Black Student Union. I became the president of the Caribbean Club. So I got involved as you know, my semesters went on. So Queens College, that feels very much like home to me in that way. There were people in my corner, there were people I could go to. When I first started, I decided to work. So I went around looking for jobs and I remember the Child Development Center had an ad for a job. And so I applied. I remember going in the suit that I brought from home and I got there and thought, wow, people who are applying for this job, like they're just not dressed. You know, cause in Grenada, everyone wears a suit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2375.0,2423.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": Like even the people in the supermarket wear suits to work. And so I remember thinking, I wonder if I overdressed for this job, but in my interview I was told that it was appreciated. So I worked there gosh, for a long time, until 2011, I think. So the people there also became sort of like family to me. I'm very close to them still. My children actually recently went to that daycare, so I had those people, the people in Student Life and the people at the Child Development Center where I worked became like family to me. So, that's what I thought. Like it was sort of like a home away from home because I had these connections with people who supported me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2423.0,2475.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Nice. And I'd love to hear more about the Caribbean Association that you went to school with, but when did you finish your studies at Queens College?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2475.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So in 2007, I finished my undergrad. So I started there in fall of 2004. I finished spring of 2007. I think the Caribbean Club, I'm trying to remember exactly when I was president. I don't remember the exact year. So it was probably the year before I graduated. In that I had good experiences. I think in some ways I was very much more focused on my academics. And so like the members of my club would sometimes say, \"But you never hang out with us,\" but I was working. So I worked and I was very focused on school, so I didn't always hang out in the club room, but we put together, I remember us doing like a carnival. We did really good events, like very well attended events. We would go to Binghamton for their carnival, the Caribbean Clubs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2490.0,2548.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": We had a relationship with them. We had a relationship with St John's University and I would hear that the club was bigger and had a bigger budget before I was there, but we made the most of it. We tried our best to make our culture alive on campus. And so we worked very closely with the Black Students Association, the Haitian Club, the Guyanese Club. There was an African Students Association. So we all kind of, if you asked people, they wouldn't know that we weren't all the Black students, and so we tried to make a distinction and say, \"Well, this carnival or this event is a Caribbean event, because here's what our cultures look like.\" And so I think that was the year before I graduated. So I finished my undergrad degree in 2007. My now husband and I met. We were both math majors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2548.0,2607.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": And so we were dating at the time and naturally, well, so my plan was to go back home, and then we're dating. I decide I'm not gonna go back. I'm gonna continue with my education. But the only way I could stay in this country is if my students visa remains active, so I decided to do an extension so I could get a certification to be a math teacher. So that's called a post-bacc. And so that took like a year and a half. And then when that was done, I applied for my Master's degree, but in the fall of 2007, when I graduated, after I graduated, I was offered an adjunct position. So I was also teaching in the department. Then let's see. So I think backtrack— [crosstalk] In the math department, yeah. So I was an Adjunct and I was also Supplemental Instructor at SEEK that's because as an international student, you can't work outside of the campus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2607.0,2672.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": So I had that job at the daycare, but I needed some more money cause I had moved out of my family's apartment. I started renting a room and so I looked for jobs on campus. And so I became a SEEK Tutor before I graduated. And I worked in the summer program. And so when I graduated and became an Adjunct, that also was just not enough money for me to sustain myself. So I was offered a position as a Supplemental Instructor. So I did both, and I think that is 2007, 2008. And I think 2009, the person, one of the lecturers who was there for many years retired. And so I was asked if I wanted to apply or if I wanted to be a Substitute Lecturer. In fact, she recommended me to be a substitute for her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2672.0,2732.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": So in the fall of 2009, I was a Substitute Lecturer, which is sort of like a full-time position. So I went from being an adjunct to having like a salary, so then I wasn't a Supplemental Instructor anymore. And then by 2010, the position became available and I applied and that's how I became a full-time Instructor at SEEK. So I work for the math department, but I think when the grant was done for the SEEK program, different colleges must have agreed to say, we'll give you this many full-time positions. And so my position is, I guess I work for the math department, but assigned to SEEK, what I mean? So that's how, and since then I've been at SEEK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2732.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Oh, wow. Okay. And so you mentioned that in the computer science program at City College that you didn't feel like you belonged. How did that change when you were in the math department in Queens College? [crosstalk]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2790.0,2810.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So I think when I went to the math department, again I think me changing my mind from computer science was really because I had a professor who just kind of made fun of me in class and I didn't know whether or not, I think I got an A minus in the class. So I imagined that I did well, but I didn't develop this love for it. And so the next thing that I did really well at was math. And so when I went there, I think, again, my goal was to do this and not care what anyone else has to say about it. So I didn't really look for acceptance and invitations. While now at my age, I really think, and at my experience tells me that we should, right, in the mathematics community, do a better job at inviting students and making them feel welcomed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2810.0,2862.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": I didn't rely on that. I do remember going in to the math department to sign up for classes. At the time I met the chair and, the issue for me was that I had already taken calculus II, but they wanted me to retake it. So he explained, \"Listen, you need to be able to do this,\" and so I ended up taking it anyway. I don't know that it would've gone differently if I were different per se, but I just kind of did what I had to do, and didn't look for a welcome, or didn't look for anyone to invite me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2862.0,2902.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": When maybe after about two semesters or three semesters, I think is when I realized that there weren't many Black people in my program. There's a program on campus called the Time 2000. And so they kind of have like the good teachers, and so I somehow found my way. Like I would go and ask, \"Can I be on the wait list?\" So that program had, I think more Black people as a math major than the general population did. And even so, there were only about three of them that I think I connected with. And so in my classes there weren't that many Black people, but whenever there was one, I connected my friend Kwesi, I remember he's from Trinidad. So we took like a statistics class together. So as I moved up, right, as I took more courses and the semesters went along, it felt a lot more isolating. Initially, it didn't but as I went on, it then became, okay, you're the only Black person in this class.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2902.0,2972.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": And I think too part of that has to just be a part of this culture where people look at things like that. When I came from Grenada, I didn't look around to see who else was in the room. But being here is that's something that people do. So I started doing the same thing. And I think when I meet people on campus and I say, \"I'm in a Math program,\" people look at you in shock, cause they're like, \"Well, I've never seen a Black person, much less a Black woman.\" So that's when I started becoming aware that this was not something that you saw often. I became really close with my professors when I could. Again, that's because I would go to office hours because I was the kind of person who, when I needed something, I would go and ask.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=2972.0,3019.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": There were some that I didn't feel like I could do that with, but there were few of them. So my Professor Sisser who I met maybe in my second year, I became really close with in that I would go to her if I needed the reference letter or, if I had a question about the program in general. And she was the person who encouraged me to apply for the position I have now. I remember graduating with honors, and she's a person who invited me to apply for the Phi Beta Kappa Honor Society and things like that. So I think for me, whereas my friends didn't do that. They didn't make this space for themselves. They didn't go to professor's office, they didn't get to know them. And so I tend to tell my students now that's what you need to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3019.0,3072.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": You sort of have to go and demand what you want. And so the professors who then became my colleagues, there are a few of them who I know that I can go to and say, \"I need a reference letter for this,\" because they know me. And I would say know me, I don't think they know anything about me personally, but they know about my work ethic and how I performed academically. So I would say I was close to them in an academic way, but not in a personal way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3072.0,3109.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And I guess one thing—I put myself on mute cause there's a lot of background noise on my side— but I did wanna chime in that earlier you did mention that like in Grenada that the demographics were mostly like people of African descent. So like, being in the U.S, I guess recognizing race is because of a different circumstance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3109.0,3141.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Yeah, so I don't think I became sort of race conscious until I came here. My schools, we were mostly Black people and the people who are lighter skin are Black people. There's like a certain group of people. We call them Mung Mungs. They're like from a certain area in Grenada and they're very light skinned. But we consider them Black. Like I don't think I went to school in the elementary school with any white people. There was probably one person whose mother was probably like, what do they call the Peace Corps workers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3141.0,3185.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Well like Peace Corps volunteer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3185.0,3187.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Yeah. Yeah. So if we had somebody, it was, the child of one of like a peace coworker. But no, most of us were. And so in terms of gender, I mean, I went to school for my early years, before college with all females. So there was not like, \"females can't do math\" kind of thing because we did all the subjects that everyone does. So I don't have that. Again not until I came here did you hear things like, boys are encouraged to do mathematics more than girls or white students tend to do better mathematics than Black students. Like, that's something that I became conscious about in this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3187.0,3230.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3230.0,3232.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: And then home where, Black people are the majority, so a white person would sort of not cross like a Black person, like that was our country and we weren't afraid of people who weren't Black cause most of us were. So we weren't the minority.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3232.0,3254.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3254.0,3255.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So it's mostly like classism, right? So I told you I went to school, when I went to high school, I went to school with people who went to private school. So their parents had more money. Like their parents were the doctors and lawyers of the island. So there's that sort of classism and then there's colorism. But again, there's this sort of revolutionary African pride that I don't think Grenadians tend to, care that because I'm darker, I don't deserve this. Of course, people have their preference and even in your families, you will hear people say like the lightest skinned children get more attention. How much that affects someone who has to do really well, I don't know. I think what really affects whether people do well or not, or get opportunities, is things like how much money their parents have in Grenada.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3255.0,3320.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay, that's really interesting. And I just wanted to make sure we circled back on that before we continued. And then so you have been working at SEEK since 2011 when you went from not quite a substitute instructor, but like there was a grant that allowed you to become like a full-time instructor and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3320.0,3358.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: In fall 2010.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3358.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: In 2010. And what did you know about SEEK at that time? What did you know about SEEK at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3360.0,3371.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So let's see. What did I know about SEEK? So I had worked there as a tutor. And so I don't know at the time that I knew much about SEEK's history and its struggles, I think. But I do know that it provided opportunities for students to be supported in their academic life because I was a tutor. And I also know that it was sort of a wraparound place for students that they had counselors, they had tutoring and overall people who really just cared about them, like if they were their family members.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3371.0,3414.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": But I remember as an instructor talking to Dr. Rodway, and when I think about how I changed my attitude towards teaching and towards our demographic of students, I would say our conversations, my conversations with her was really helpful. And we'll talk about, I think I came in with this attitude that if they work hard, then they'll do well, right? Like all they needed to have was some grit and that their success really relied on how much they put into it and that if they didn't put anything into it is because they didn't wanna succeed. And I remember her saying to me, any well human being or any human being whose needs are all met is going to want to succeed. Right? And so these students have their reasons for why they may not do well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3414.0,3475.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":": So that was pivotal, I think, in my teaching career, this idea that there are people in this country who, no matter what they do and no matter how hard they work, their feelings placed above them and their struggles that they have to experience that other kids don't. And I think I was also forced to sort of look at my own privileges because I would say, you know what? I came to this country, I was an immigrant. I worked hard, I did well, right? But not thinking about all the things that were put in place for me to be able to do that, that my students may not have. So I know that SEEK is a place where students are supported in these ways, and so it makes me wanna be a part of that family. It's like the SEEK family, because now I've been there all this time and I'm still learning. But I think I've grown in my views of what SEEK is and what it offers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3475.0,3543.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay. So Anisha we're at an hour.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3543.0,3555.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Yeah. I have a meeting at 12:30. So if you have a few more questions, I don't mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3555.0,3563.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: I think at this point, could we reschedule like another time for 30 minutes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3563.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Okay. So this week is hard because I'm trying to prepare for next week, and just have like a bunch of meetings. So if you can shoot me an email, I would say— when does school start? School starts next week. All right. So I start teaching on Thursday, so next Friday is probably good. Like a half an hour.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3570.0,3598.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: That's fine. That's perfect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3598.0,3601.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: So you could send me like a time that works for you, and then we could coordinate that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3601.0,3606.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: All right. Cool. Thank you so much for giving me your time and telling me your story. It is very fascinating. I just wanna make sure that we talk about the COVID experience and I think we can go directly to that for the treatments that we talk on Friday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3606.0,3623.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3623.0,3624.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And you said next Friday?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3624.0,3626.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Yeah, so that's the 28th-- So at some point, shoot me a quick email. So we can like schedule a time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3626.0,3649.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Yeah. The 28th. All right. Cool. All right. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3649.0,3652.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: No problem. Be well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3652.0,3653.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Right. You too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3653.0,3655.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anisha Clarke: Okay. Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3655.0,3656.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524/transcript/43929/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/94239/file/190524#t=3656.0,3657.61306"}]}]}]}