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Founded in 1977, the New Americans Program provides a wide range of services and support for immigrants and asylum seekers to help them acclimate to life in the United States, while also celebrating the rich ethnic and cultural diversity of Queens.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eGitner discusses his early memories of visiting libraries as a child, his experiences working in libraries beginning as a teenager, and how his academic background in French and library science led him to work at the French Institute Alliance Française from 1976 through 1994. Gitner joined the staff of the New Americans Program at Queens Public Library in 1996; he describes how organizational restructuring has impacted the New Americans Program since that time and explains his role in organizing special projects that serve immigrant communities in Queens. Specifically, Gitner highlights the acquisition of Burmese language books for the large Burmese-speaking population in Elmhurst in 2018 and the introduction of live phone interpretation service at all Queens Public Library locations in 2022.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eAdditionally, Gitner speaks about the influence of local and national politics on libraries, the various types of jobs and careers offered by libraries, the Queens Public Library's partnerships with community based organizations to address social service needs, and ways that Queens Public Library can continue to evolve and remain relevant to community needs.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eThe American Library Association honored Fred Gitner with the 2024 \"I Love My Librarian Award\" for his outstanding service to asylum seekers and immigrants in Queens. \u003ca href=\"https://www.queenslibrary.org/about-us/news-media/blog/3121\"\u003ehttps://www.queenslibrary.org/about-us/news-media/blog/3121\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e (supplement)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCC BY-NC-SA Contact digitalarchives@queenslibrary.org for research and reproduction requests.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["http://digitalarchives.queenslibrary.org/search/browse/42456"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2023-03-02 (created)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Video","Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Fred Gitner (Interviewee)","Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan (Interviewer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source"]},"value":{"en":["Interview conducted as part of the Queens Public Library 125th Anniversary Project."]}},{"label":{"en":["Coverage"]},"value":{"en":["1950s-2023 (temporal)","Queens, NY; New York, NY; New York State; France (spatial)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eClip 1\u003c/strong\u003e: Fred Gitner speaks about the origins of the New Americans Program at Queens Public Library and how it was designed to comprehensively serve immigrant communities in Queens.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eClip 2\u003c/strong\u003e: Fred Gitner speaks about the wide range of career opportunities offered by public libraries, the wide range of services offered by public libraries, and the diverse skill sets of library employees.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eSummary of Full Interview\u003c/strong\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eFred Gitner serves as Assistant Director of New Initiatives and Partnership Liaison for the New Americans Program at Queens Public Library. 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Thank you, again, so much Mr. Gitner for agreeing to be interviewed today as part of the Queens Memory Project. Today is really just about learning more about your story. Before we get started, is reading the consent statement. My name is Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan, and I'm interviewing Fred Gitner today, March 2nd 2023. By making this recording, we both consent to the use of our names, voices, images, and likeness by the Queens Public Library, understanding that this recording will be property of the library and will be used in connection with the promotion and marketing of the library, its programs and services. It will not be sold by the library in any way. We understand that we will not receive compensation and agree to hold the library harmless from any claim arising from use of this interview and recording. Again, Mr. Gitner, thank you for today. To get our conversation started, can you share what you currently do for the Queens Public Library?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=10.0,83.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So, currently I'm the Assistant Director of the New Initiatives and Partnerships Liaison for the New Americans Program, which is the immigrant services division of the library-- we're part of the programs and services department. In that role, I work on special projects that relate to serving immigrant communities. My most recent project, which actually started before the pandemic was to help the library introduce access for staff to an interpretation service for use with customers coming into the library. So, we now subscribe to a service called LanguageLine, which is in use by many, the city government uses it, many of the city agencies. But as you know the libraries in New York City are not direct city agencies. We are a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit corporation. So this would have to be contracted and introduced separately. And, it was a, it was a long process. But finally, it was formally introduced in over last summer and now every library location, including our outreach people, including our Adult Learning Centers, have access to an 800 number where they can call for interpretation in over 200 languages. So, I was really happy that that project came to fruition finally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=83.0,181.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So and then other projects just have to do, it depends, for example, with the crisis in Ukraine. I was asked to assist in putting together information for that we could put on our website for customers who wanted to help in some way. Whether it was donating materials or money, or learning more about it. For example, finding books in our collection about Ukraine or in Ukrainian. We added to our collection in the Development Department, Division, we added e-books in Ukrainian during this time. So that's, you know, again, it's special project right now, you know, with the earthquake in Turkey and Syria, we're going to be putting something on the website again just for where people can, can help. They have, where they can donate reputable places. So we just try to, you know, keep, keep up with those kinds of situations. But and then work, I work a lot in partnering with community based organizations. So many of the partners we find through our membership in the Borough President's Immigration Task Force. And, I'm on the advisory board for that. So, that way it's a way of getting an inroad into communities that may be difficult if we don't speak the language. If we aren't really familiar with, you know, what the needs are of a community. So that's how we got involved, for example, within the Nepali community, with an organization called Adhikaar. With the, let me think of some of the other ones. With the Haitian community with Haitian Americans United for Progress. Things like that. So that way, you know, when we do try to organize programs in library, when I say programs, we have informational workshops, we have cultural programs to, for the community that we can reach out to people to give us assistance and organizing, in organizing them and finding speakers or performers, et cetera.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=181.0,317.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Oh wow. To be honest, sir, I've never thought of everything that you mentioned part of the library. So, I'm very, very fascinated right now. My mind is blown away. But, thank you for sharing that, you know, in a nutshell, everything that you're doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=317.0,333.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: The other thing is that this year, you know, our program started in 1977 so we celebrate our 45th anniversary, just last fall. And, we had a system wide celebration of activities in different libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=333.0,352.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: I started with the library in 1996-- early January 1996. The program has changed over time. But, the idea is still to reach out to the new, particularly the newest immigrant arrivals to assist them in their acculturation, adaptation to life in the U.S., but also to help them maintain their traditions as well. And it's, it's really been, it was one of the first programs in libraries in the U.S. to try to bring different current aspects of serving immigrants together, building the collections in different languages, providing informational and cultural programming. And now, we've added other services that I can talk about later. But it expanded and changed in different ways. We also ran for many years the ESOL-- English for speakers of other language programs. That is still in the same department, that is in a different division now. But, we were the ones who got that started.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=352.0,423.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And, it all came out of, as you might know, the 1965 immigration law which changed, you know, the, ended the quotas and, and allowed for many more people from many more countries to come into the U.S. And it really was the, the idea of, of the director of the library at that time, Mrs. Cooke, who had retired by the time I started working, but she was the one who realized that, particularly the collections in the library were very, you know, literary and were not really serving and didn't have the languages of the newcomers. So, that's how the idea for starting a program like ours came. And was originally a project, it was a grant-funded project for three years before it became part of the regular library services that, because it was quite successful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=423.0,475.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yeah. No. It sounds like it. And, I'm sure it'll just keep going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=475.0,478.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Right. Because there are immigrants who are going to continue to come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=478.0,482.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=482.0,483.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Because, you know, that's the story of the United States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=483.0,486.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Correct. Yeah. So, I'm glad. So again, thank you. But I want to get started with a question regarding how everything started for you, in terms of your relationship with the library. Did you always see yourself working in the library?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=486.0,502.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: In general in the library? Well, I started quite young. The first time I ever worked in a library was in elementary school, helping to take inventory of the library collection. And then, I was always a library user. I mean, even when I was young, we as a family, we went weekly to the library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=502.0,531.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=531.0,533.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So that was yeah, the public, it was a public library in a suburb of, small suburb of New York up in northern Westchester County. It was one of the, you know, a library that was, it was just in an old house. The floors were all crooked. And it was great and charming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=533.0,554.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: But, as soon as I turned 16, I got a job in the library there. And, the job in library, they called it a page, you have to be shelving books and whatever else needed to be done. So, that was, you know, I enjoyed that very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=554.0,572.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And then that continued in the summer and vacations from college. I worked in libraries in Westchester County. I worked in my college library to earn some money in college. 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And, just the circumstances when I finished college and grad school, led more towards the library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=592.0,616.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yeah. So you mentioned all of you, all of your family would go, go to libraries. Whose requirement was that? Was it your mom's or dad's?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=616.0,625.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: No. It was just something at that time. Initially, it was my father who took us to the library because my mother didn't drive yet when they moved to the suburbs. But then, but then, you know, either one. But you know, I think, I think well, my mother was a big reader and she always encouraged, you know, encouraged reading so I guess it was her more than my father. 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He said, you'll never, you know, you'll never have enough money to raise a family. 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So are you fluent in French?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=682.0,685.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=685.0,685.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: In fact I just came back. In January, I was invited to the library at the Pompidou center in Paris to present. 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I mean, I did get through Queens Public Library's Exchange Program which they had for a while, I was able to be an exchange librarian for a month in Paris-- that 20 years ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=822.0,868.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: But, but yeah, no, I didn't have any, I didn't have any regrets. I just, I just was determined to make use of my languages in whatever career job that I, that I found. 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I just felt that, I mean, I, I just felt that you would get, you know, more personal attention, more opportunity to interact with the professors than you might, you know--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=892.0,911.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: I had visited one large university when I was in high school. I think it was a group of us, we went to some science trip to Cornell University. There, I was saying, oh my God, this is a campus! They have traffic lights. That's not, no, that's not what I'm looking for. So, so yeah. 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Because I like smaller, more intimate setting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=991.0,993.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=993.0,995.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So what happened after you receive your degree, career-wise? 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As I said, I worked in the college library in Hamilton. So, when I, even when I went down, you know, looking for a place to live in New Jersey, I also looked for where, you know, where could I work at? It worked, and, I was fortunate enough to get a job at the Princeton University Library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1016.0,1043.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1043.0,1044.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And I worked there, as an I guess sort of like an intern in their reference department. 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And, she gave, you know, idea, and I came up with some things that she hadn't thought of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1056.0,1078.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Basically, what we were doing was trying to fulfill requests for the professors like if they needed additional research articles or books that weren't in Princeton's Library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1078.0,1091.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1091.0,1091.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And, they would give us information, you know, citations. We have to go figure out where were these books in the United States-- where can we find these books. So that was a challenge and, you know, there are tools to use. Then, it was just at the time they were just introducing online services and I remember she was amazed one time because I went into the, I guess, was the cataloging department, which was the only department that had online access at the time. And I was searching some obscure journal in, I don't know, in some language. And, and I went to the catalog department and we did a bit of a search and then came up with the answer. And she was like, how did you do that? Because she hadn't yet really gotten into the computer yet. So, but that way, yeah, so, so it was, it was very good experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1091.0,1143.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And then I got a job actually because I wanted to be more in New York City initially. So I did get a job for an out-of-print book dealer. I was looking for academic, but I just wasn't coming up with possibilities where language might be involved. So, I got the job at the out-of-print book dealer. It was related to universities, because this particular book dealer, its main job was putting together collections of books, to sell to university libraries in specific subject areas. So, we put together catalogs by subject of different books. And we also searched out books that, you know, might be added to the stock of the bookstore. And it was, so again, different. I was there for a little less than two years. But, I was able to take summers off to continue my master's degree in French at Middlebury. They have a summer school for the Master's Degree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1143.0,1212.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So you were doing library science Masters degree?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1212.0,1215.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: I had finished the master's in library science by then because as I didn't work just coming out with the Bachelors. And then, during the summers while at my first job I was going to Middlebury College. Once I got the French degree, that's when I saw in Library Journal for a French language librarian needed in Midtown, Manhattan. And I said that sounds like a job I should apply for. I found out later, this is just a sidenote, I found out later that about 30 people applied for that job. But, I wrote my cover letter in French.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1215.0,1264.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Oh [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1264.0,1266.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And, the director of the Institute, who had been a former French instructor, a French Professor for a short time, was very impressed because they were, weren't grammatical, or weren't, either hardly or no grammatical mistakes. So that came to his attention. So, then yeah, and so, there were three final candidates and I was lucky enough to get the job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1266.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So now, I know who to go to for French translation needs. So when you went into library science, you still wanted to teach, that was still your first inclination?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1290.0,1303.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Well, no. I had both. It's always good to have, you know, a couple, plan A, plan B kind of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1303.0,1312.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: But, I never really taught. Though, I am, I am active in the American Association of Teachers of French.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1312.0,1321.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1321.0,1322.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: I'm actually, I'm the treasurer of the Metropolitan New York Chapter. And, I'm involved in their activities, promoting French. And then, I'm also involved in an organization called the American Society of the French Academic Palms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1322.0,1343.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Palms?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1343.0,1343.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yes, P-A-L-M-S. Yeah. So that's a society for people who have been honored by the French government for their service in promoting the French language. And so, the, that society is the American division of the French society, which the French decoration, which was founded by Napoleon, so that was very, mostly it's given to teachers of French, but sometimes librarians or other people in other fields who are active in promoting French. So I received that just as I was leaving the French Institute. Yes, I was very honored and eventually had a ceremony at the French embassy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1343.0,1388.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Oh wow. Really? Oh wow. So actually I have French blood. So my middle name is Sarthou. S-A-R-T-H-O-U.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1388.0,1395.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: That's definitely French.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1395.0,1396.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yes. It's from-- it's in a town called Pau.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1396.0,1396.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Pau in southwestern France. I've been there. Yeah. We actually, that's where the, that's where the famous Chateau of Henry the fourth. Yeah, very nice area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1396.0,1417.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So my grandfather on my mother's side was there. Born and raised there. But he's one of those French seamen that worked in Spain. So that's the connection to the Philippines. Yeah. So there's a lot. Yeah. So, I am very curious about these connection to how I found you too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1417.0,1438.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So, so right after the French Institute that's when you started working at the Queens Public Library?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1438.0,1445.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yeah. So at the French Institute Alliance Française I was, as I said there almost 18 years. But they, unfortunately, had some financial problems and were forced to, to close the library for a while and lay off the staff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1445.0,1462.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So, I took an interim job as a rare-book librarian, at the New York Academy of Medicine. And during that time, I started looking around applying to different, different places. It wasn't yet, that you look for jobs on the internet, so it was the New York Times or what have you. So, I did apply to the Queens Public Library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1462.0,1485.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: What was very funny, was that I applied for-- I figured since I had managerial experience-- that I applied to be a branch manager at public library in Queens. But, I got a letter from them saying no, that I was not accepted for that. But, apparently, they kept my resume, because a little while after I got a call from them saying, \"Well, you know, we understand, we could not offer you that job. But, would you be interested in applying for a job in our New Americans Program?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1485.0,1521.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: I, actually, had met the person who was in charge of the program because Queens Public library, as many libraries in New York City are part of a cooperative called METRO [Metropolitan New York Library Council]-- the Metropolitan New York reference and research something or other-- and I had as part of my professional affiliations, I was involved in METRO. I had organized a workshop for librarians related to-- I believe it was related to-- collection development in international language or world languages.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1521.0,1562.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And, I had contacted the person from the New Americans Program to be on the panel prior.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1562.0,1570.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yeah? Perfect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1570.0,1570.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yeah, this was before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1570.0,1573.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So, I found out later. She told me when the Human Resources-- because, they have-- looked at different candidates and they haven't found anyone for the position in the New Americans Program, she asked Human Resources, you know, \"Do you have any more resumes?\" And, they gave her, you know, some. And she, she looked and said, \"Oh! I know, I know that Fred!\" So, they, that's how I ended up on the top of the pile to coming here for the interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1573.0,1598.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1598.0,1598.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So, you never know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1598.0,1600.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: No. Timing. Yeah [unclear].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1600.0,1602.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So, I saw that outside it says New Americans Program, right? It's just right here. So that's where the office is?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1602.0,1608.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1608.0,1608.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Great. So, how long? Because, your position now is different from that, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1608.0,1615.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So, I was hired as an assistant head of the program, and that was my position for about eight years-- until my boss retired.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1615.0,1627.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: She had been with the program for-- let me think-- almost 25 years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1627.0,1637.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yeah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1637.0,1639.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And so, then, I was promoted to the head of the program. And then, they restructured and renamed positions, et cetera. So, I became coordinator. And then, also, this is all within the same programs and services department. There were other units of the department. So, they can, at one point they consolidated and I was overseeing a unit, besides New Americans, a unit called special services, which was services for persons with disabilities, for the incarcerated, for homeless services, et cetera. Job related services as well. And then, that was eventually taken out and made a separate unit. So, and then, at some point-- I'm not sure when-- when that changed, I became overseeing New Americans and international relations for the library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1639.0,1693.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Because the library had always been involved because of the nature of Queens, people coming from so many countries, we receive lots of visits from librarians from different countries. And the person who had been coordinating that again left the library. And so, I was asked to take that over as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1693.0,1713.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: And it's been like that for the [unclear] 25 years, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1713.0,1716.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Well, yeah. It's, well, not 25 years but certainly since yeah, it's been, it's been quite a while. Yeah, and then, and then again, we were restructured.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1716.0,1729.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So, now, I'm a co-assistant director with Cathy Chen who I had recommended. She had been our programming manager for a while and then was promoted to assistant director in the program. So, she runs the day-to-day operation of the New Americans Program, overseeing the staff right now. Right now we have a staff, a full-time staff of six, including us. And as I say, I work more on special projects and initiatives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1729.0,1766.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Can you share a story, I'm very, I'm very fascinated with the program to be honest, sir. Can you share a story here in the Queens Public Library having sort of like a positive impact? Is there something--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1766.0,1779.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yeah, well, certainly, there were some involving our programs over the years. For example, as I said, the way we can do our programs is partnering with outside agencies. So, for a while, actually, the entire library was partnered with the, what's called the Queens Health Network.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1779.0,1797.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: The Queens Health Network are the two public hospitals in Queens, Queens Hospital and Elmhurst Hospital. And for a while, we were doing regular programming with them, where they would provide doctors to give talks in different languages. So, there was one time when we were organizing a talk about diabetes and the, included was not only the talk but a nurse came along also to do a test at the library for people who wanted it to see if, you know, they might have diabetes. So, it happened to be attending that lecture was someone who was a recent arrival to the U.S., came with her daughter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1797.0,1846.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: I believe her daughter was already here. And, she spoke Spanish. The program was in Spanish. And they said, the daughter said that if the program is not being given in Spanish, you know, her mother would not have understood the medical vocabulary, et cetera. And it turned out that when they did the tests that the mother did have diabetes. She had no idea. And, that they scheduled her for a, for a clinic at the hospital. So that's a positive impact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1846.0,1873.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Wow. Well, and I'm sure she was very thankful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1873.0,1877.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yes, they were. They were happy that they had come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1877.0,1882.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: What is a typical day for you here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1882.0,1885.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Well, a typical day. I don't know that this is typical, but, but a lot of email, you know, answering sometimes it's inquiries from customers. For example, because I'm, one of the things I'm working, I'm overseeing right now has to do with-- particularly during the pandemic, people got really interested in, you know, learning new things. So we started offering online language classes, not, not to learn English, which we've always offered, but people wanted to learn Spanish or they wanted to learn French.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1885.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So, Americans? English Speakers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1920.0,1921.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: English speakers or people from even other countries. So, so we started, we do have, the library does subscribe to databases, that system that we have, we subscribe to I think it's Rocket Language, and the other one is called Transparent Language Online. And we had prior to the pandemic been doing some workshops organized with volunteers, who are native speakers of the language where people come in and practice and learn a bit using this was Transparent Language.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1921.0,1951.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: But again, during the, you know, during the pandemic that wasn't possible. So, we started organizing some with some funding primarily actually from government officials. So, for example, an assembly member or state senator might offer funding because he thought that in his district it would be great if people, you know, could speak to each other in their, in the different languages. So that's how it started with Spanish in the area of Corona. We started there before the pandemic with some in-person programs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1951.0,1985.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And then, during the pandemic, there was another assembly member-- I believe it was the South Ozone Park area-- who asked us to organize the classes and we did Bengali and we did Spanish again. So, that has become quite-- we haven't yet done in person for that. We're still doing some as we have funding. We're still doing some virtual, virtual programs but it's become very popular. And that, and my, I guess it said on the website, it says for information contact Fred Gitner. So, that's how I get emails and calls regarding that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=1985.0,2028.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: But we also get inquiries from other libraries asking about our services. One that I just got recently, as I mentioned, that project about the language line. They were curious about what, and how we got involved in interpretation services and if we could give them any advice, that type of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2028.0,2046.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And so that's one thing. And then, the other thing is obviously working on these various special projects interacting with different departments. For the language line, we have to work a lot with the IT department. For example, we also had to work with, have to work with what we call Community Library Services, which is the branch services. So working also with the Chief Librarian and the Directors of Community Library Services to make sure that the branch is informed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2046.0,2078.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: We also, obviously, have to work with marketing to get the word out about our various services and, and also whatever kinds of promotional materials are needed. 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And really, you know, a lot, being a librarian, it's a service profession. We don't work, you know, direct, I mean I did it in other [pause] working at the French Institute, certainly. But I didn't, I don't work directly with the public anymore. Though, I do work, we're all required to work in outreach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2093.0,2124.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So we do a lot of, there are a lot of fairs. Different fairs in different neighborhoods. Whether it's a health fair, immigration fair sponsored by the Borough President or by a state official. Or so, we always, so we are, you know, either sometimes on weekends or sometimes during the week, we have, we do tabling at events throughout Queens to let people know about our services along with many other community based organizations. So that's, also, that's one way of really interacting directly with the public. And, it's also another way of using languages. Because, at these fairs you have people coming up to you who speak different languages and you do, you know, you do your best. Last week it was mainly Spanish, though, I did have one Haitian guy. That was, Ha! I can speak this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2124.0,2174.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: I know French and he knows Haitian Creole. But, I did take one Haitian Creole course. So, I can read it, and write somewhat or at least see if it's correct. But the speaking part is harder because I haven't had enough practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2174.0,2192.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yeah, no, I remember being called in school to help out my friend, she's a speech pathologist, like speech teacher. And she goes, \"There's a Filipino here, come help.\" So I get there, but the person speaks a different dialect. You know we have about a thousand dialect. So, I said \"I am sorry, I cannot help you.\" But, when I do encounter a lot of Filipinos that speak my dialect or knows the language I do it. I have a good conversation with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2192.0,2219.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So you mentioned earlier about like, you know, going out there being with the public. Can you share maybe your experience on what you think how the public view the library?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2219.0,2232.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Right. Yeah. So, so in general, when they do surveys, libraries come out in the above 90th percentile of people who are in love-- \"I love my library\" kinda thing. But, it's funny that a lot of people don't realize that libraries have changed-- of all the different services that are offered. Some who don't, may not use libraries regularly because they can go out and buy books or what have you, they really think it's all still just for borrowing a book but, but obviously not. There's a lot of social services going on in libraries. That was certainly shown during the pandemic, when libraries became vaccination sites, they became testing sites. As I say, in other cities, not at, not in New York because again, the libraries are separate from the city government, but in other cities, where librarians or library staff are city workers, they had to be taken from their job to be put into other departments in the city because they were needed there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2232.0,2295.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So, definitely, and the library, you know, I think people, one thing that people, and immigrants too particularly once they find out what's going on in a library in America, because in many cases is very different from a library in their home country. Many times they come to a library in the United States I'd say, it's really because that their kids, because the kids, you know, that kids have to do a school assignment or the teacher said, go to the library and the parents come. And they say \"Well, look at all of this. What is this? What's all this going on here?\" And that's why we try to, you know, do our programs in the New Americans are sort of family oriented.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2295.0,2333.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: But we focus on families and adults, not so much on the little kids, we have our Children's Services doing that. But yeah, but so the library has become really a trust-- I think we have the trust of people. That's one thing that's very good. That people aren't judged. And, they come in, they don't have to show, you know, just walk in. You don't have to show anything. Of course, if you want to get or borrow something, you'd have to get a library card, which is not too difficult for most people. But I think there's that trust of that person, the librarian or the person at the desk-- everybody thinks everybody at the desk is a librarian. It's no, it's not true. There's lots of library workers. But everybody, Queens [Public Library] is very much focused and we have workshops on this on customer service.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2333.0,2380.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Oh. Ok.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2380.0,2382.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: We don't, some libraries call people who use the library \"patrons.\" Queens prefer \"customer.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2382.0,2387.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2387.0,2388.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And there, you know, there are many, at all levels, the idea is to find out what the person needs and wants and to help them find it and get it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2388.0,2398.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: The customer is always right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2398.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: It's, the customer's always right. There's, you know, there are some very, there are always difficult customers and that's why there are also workshops on how to handle a difficult customer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2400.0,2411.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So, you have been in the Queens Library for a long time, right? So has there been like that change from how--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2411.0,2419.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: The idea of customer service that has not changed but, but the, the kinds of things that people ask for have changed. I mean, when you go back even when I first started here, people were still asking, because questions that now you can easily find on the internet, so you know, someone might ask about who's the author of this book, or something like that. Or I need to know-- but more and more it's, you have people coming in and questions, you know, how, \"How do I enroll for food stamps?\" Or, questions regarding their immigration status. Fortunately, now at the library we have partnership with the mayor's office and then we're going to fairs and we do offer a free legal, access to free legal services at the library, immigration legal services.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2419.0,2471.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And also, the city has had over the years a big campaign for citizenship as well. So we offer citizenship classes, we offer various workshops on the hundred questions and et cetera, et cetera. And people really do appreciate, appreciate that. So, I think that immigrants, even if not all immigrants are using the library, immigrants are very heavy in Queens anyway, very heavy users of the library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2471.0,2502.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Oh, yeah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2502.0,2503.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And, and because we hear from people, and we've, we've also met people who have used the library and then gone onto let's say work in the library. And work their way up to becoming a librarian. That's happened quite a bit from the Bangladeshi community, we've noticed. And, and also of somewhat in the Hispanic community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2503.0,2524.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: I met your security guard downstairs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2524.0,2527.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2527.0,2527.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: I did not recognize his last name. So I asked him like, you know, where is your last name? He said he is from Guyana, but his last name is Indian. So it's very like, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2527.0,2537.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yes, yes. Well, that's also and we just recently did-- we did one a while ago, but I coordinated with another department, a language, a staff language survey of the library. About somewhat about 125 people answered because we were trying to find out that if, you know, if in a pinch, are people willing to help out, you know, whether it's for translation, written, or whether it's for interpretation or whether it's for something else, like assisting with building the collections in the library. So it was, was helpful to update [unclear], and I think we found at least 30, 40 languages, you know, that are spoken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2537.0,2576.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: I mean I found that someone in our finance department is from, is from Myanmar. So I didn't know anyone from there. She's the only person in the library that I could come across. So she was able to help us with checking, we were trying to check how to say \"welcome\" in many languages.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2576.0,2595.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yeah, yeah. So you know, so thank you for bringing that up because I am very fascinated with that part of your job. So I saw an interview, a written interview in the New York Times in 2018 about your initiative of bringing in collections, you know, like books from or talks about Myanmar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2595.0,2616.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Okay. Yeah. So that was, that was an interesting initiative. That actually came about because we were contacted by representatives of the community. They had got, they've gone to their local council member who had suggested talking directly with the library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2616.0,2638.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And the issue, the issue was it depends on the size of the community. Obviously that when there's hundreds and hundreds of languages spoken in Queens, the library just can't have collections in every single language. It's not possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2638.0,2652.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: I think, now we probably have about over 50. I'd say about 30 that are maybe bought on a fairly regular basis. But we can't, you know, because there's over 200 languages spoken in Queens. And if you count this, and if you talk to the Endangered Language Alliance, it could be up to 600 or more with dialects, et cetera. So, no other place in the world like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2652.0,2678.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So we met with the community and discuss with them. What we came up with was because they were, there was a concentration in the Elmhurst area that what we would do is if, if they could raise some funds from the community, that our foundation would also put in some funds to start a collection and we thought, you know, we didn't know how much would it, but they would raise maybe $500 or $1000.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2678.0,2707.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Anyway, they came back with more than that. And that the foundation match it, put in some money, I think $1000, so we started. But the problem then was where we get the books. There is no place in the United States to get books for in Burmese. So, we fortunately, through the International Relations program, we had a Burmese visitor, a visitor from Myanmar about a year or two before and he, he happened to be a bookstore owner in Myanmar. So, I had kept his card and I contacted him. He also had his own foundation where he was trying to establish libraries in Myanmar, which is one of the reasons he visited us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2707.0,2759.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And, we were able to after a number of negotiations from between the community and the bookstore and them understanding what each side could do, again the cultural, different cultural things, we were able to start a collection. A small collection of adult books, and children's books. And we had an inauguration ceremony that Buddhist monks and politicians and it was, it turned out to be, you know, a very nice community and food, community event.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2759.0,2793.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And recently I've been in touch with them again because there is still some money left in the fund.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2793.0,2798.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: From the fundraising before?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2798.0,2800.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yes. Yes. Because we couldn't buy it. You know, there are a number of years we couldn't buy anything and, and they, and we really wanted the community to give us some input into what they wanted. So now they gave us some subjects they would be interested in and I'm going to start again contacting the dealer. Hopefully, we'll be able to get a second round--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2800.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2820.0,2823.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Happens every so often where we've been contacted by a particular community saying, you know, they're looking for materials in the library, you know, and it depends on it to start a new collection because that's a big undertaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2823.0,2840.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: We usually look to see whether there's at least 3000 people, population in the community. And then we look to see is that population, because if you look it has to do with statistics coming from the American Community Survey and through the work also with the population division of the city planning department. And so, we look at what are the, you know, we every so often we look at where the top 30 or 40 languages spoken in Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2840.0,2869.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: It doesn't change that much, but, but there's the definite drop after 3000, you know. So, that's where we sort of created our own cut off. And so at the time, the reason the with the Burmese, it didn't make the cut off, initially. But because of the community really was interested, we worked together with them. Other languages, you know, when we were, for example, when we're starting building a new library, we look at, you know, the statistics for the neighborhood demographics. So when Elmhurst, for example, was opening, we added two new languages to Elmhurst, which were Indonesian and Thai at the time because those groups have gone way up. And then you think in Queens, you know, after English, the third most spoken language in Queens is now Bengali. So you look around this neighborhood, you know, it's changed so much since I came in 1996. Definitely, there were, there used to be Haitian stores along Hillside Avenue. Those are gone. They found, moved on to other parts of Queens or they-- there's this area right by the library was particularly more African-American neighborhood. Now, it's more Bangladeshi and Hispanic. So yeah, it's, so you really have to try to keep up with demographics and that's one of the things that we try to do too is since we're not in every location-- Queens has 65 locations, Queens Public Library, 60, I guess 63 that are actual library lending locations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2869.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: We rely a lot on the managers of the libraries and other staff in the libraries to keep us apprised of what's happening in their neighborhoods. What changes you're noticing so they would send us emails every so often, you know, do you know, I think in my library I would, could use this, some books in this language, or what have you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2970.0,2988.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So, your programs are not necessarily present in another [unclear]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2988.0,2992.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So what we do-- in other libraries in the country?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2992.0,2994.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: No, Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2994.0,2995.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: We work in all libraries in Queens. Yeah, we're centrally located. We, you know, we speak to the managers of the different libraries et cetera. No, but our program, other libraries are doing other programs, reaching out to immigrants. There are many more programs than used to be when we started, but, but I think ours is a pretty, you know, a comprehensive one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=2995.0,3019.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yeah. I'd say. Does politics play into this? I mean you mentioned earlier with funding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3019.0,3027.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yeah. So obviously in the library in general, you know, funding is an issue each year. The library has, through our Government Community Affairs, has advocacy efforts with each mayor. Each one has a different style.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3027.0,3043.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3043.0,3045.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And then working with the city council members, that's one of the jobs of our CEO, Dennis Walcott, to work with the politicians. And, but politics on, you know, in an [unclear] things that are going on, you know, not just in Queens, but throughout the country with the culture war thing going on. Librarians being attacked and some states looking at laws to penalize librarians. I mean, it's hard to even imagine, yeah. I mean that's not going to, you know, come to New York as far as that, going that far, but, but still, you know, we've had issues recently. I'm sure you've read in the paper the library's work, have the Drag Story Hours and the, which have been going on for a number of years without any problem. But suddenly that's, you know, that's an issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3045.0,3100.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: There're definitely more people in the community who support having them. They're just stories told in different costumes and different ways of learning to be tolerant and et cetera, et cetera. But, you know, there are some people who just grab onto something and even if they're not, many of them from what I saw in the article in the paper that some of the protesters have nothing to do and are not even from Queens. They're just protesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3100.0,3128.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: But fortunately, there are many more supporters than protesters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3128.0,3132.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So you find that--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3132.0,3134.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yeah. And, as far as Immigrant Services, I mean over the years there have been some people who question why we're doing things for immigrants. This was a long time ago when I first came, I don't know in Queens, there were billboards-- that was during the time when they were trying to say English only.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3134.0,3152.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: It was a campaign. And because, you know, which I actually didn't know initially but the U.S. does not have an official language. So they were trying to make English, some people were trying to make English the official language of everything. And there were some people who questioned why we were spending money on books in different languages with-- it was just a few, you know, calls we got. There was, there was also someone who said \"Why didn't the library do more to help people learn English? In my neighborhood, you know, people don't speak English in the stores.\" And we said, \"Well, we do have courses in your neighborhood. If we could find more money, we could offer more courses.\" And then, and then I said, well you know, she finally by the end of the conversation she said she might be interested in tutoring to help people learn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3152.0,3205.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: That was her introduction?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3205.0,3206.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: That was, yeah, that was, so she was annoyed, but said well maybe I can help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3206.0,3211.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Sorry, so some complaints goes directly to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3211.0,3215.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Some. Well because, you know, we're public institution, people find [crosstalk]. I mean, some complaints have nothing to do with-- if it doesn't have something to do with us, they direct them because wherever it might be, but, but there are some over the years that have come directly to us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3215.0,3233.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So, I want to close out with a couple of your closing thoughts. What are your hopes for the future of Queens Public Library?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3233.0,3242.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Well, you know, Queens Public Library, the tag line is 'we speak your language.' And, it's not just speaking another language, it could be, you know, speaking computers or speaking, it could be children's, children's activities or whatever. But, I hope, you know, I do hope that the library is there for everyone and that the services-- I mean we tried, we do try to keep up with what kinds of services people are looking for, not just in our library, but what is going on, you know, in the country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3242.0,3278.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: There's a lot more, I think, community participation, you know, we want to hear from people. And what, what kinds of programs, activities are, you know, do they need or want, whether it's job-related, whether it's, you know, leisure activities. I mean some libraries are starting to lend musical instruments. There's a whole movement of seed libraries. You know, where you can borrow seeds, take out seeds, plant plants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3278.0,3306.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Actual seed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3306.0,3307.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Seeds. Yes, seed libraries are popular. I know in Long Island are doing that and in other parts of the country too so, so yes. So the idea is to keep that, keep alive, to keep Queens Public Library relevant to the needs of the community. Because communities change and, you know, you need to take that into consideration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3307.0,3329.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: But I think, you know, Queens has quite a good job introducing new services. I think one thing that I've always liked in Queens is Queens is willing to try things out. It may not work and you may have to go on to something else or you may have to modify it. You know, let's say, you know, a program where, you know, the attendance is zero or, you know, why is that? How can I avoid that next time? But, that's one thing that I've been, that I felt very good in Queens is there's always-- and, and one thing that we do internally is that we do have the Queens Public Library Foundation, which raises money for the library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3329.0,3370.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And one of the things that they do is offer internally is what they call innovation grants. So, each year, staff can come up with ideas that they would like to implement in their neighborhood or what have you and they can compete for getting one of these grants to try something out. So I feel that's quite good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3370.0,3394.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Do you need to be a Queens resident to work in the Queens Public Library?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3394.0,3397.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: To work? No. You certainly don't need to be a Queens resident here to get a library card. That's one thing we keep trying to tell people. As long as you're a resident of New York State you can get a Queens Public Library card. I have three library cards. One for each system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3397.0,3416.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Okay. Yeah I'm a resident of the Bronx so, I had one there. Then, I go to the one in Manhattan and then I have one here that's expiring. So I gotta keep up with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3416.0,3426.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So, the library for you in the future, what would that be like? You know, there are talks of ChatGPT now, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3426.0,3436.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Right. Yes, I mean, you know, I, not familiar enough with, with all that. I'm sure it's going to come to the library, AI, artificial intelligence, in some way. How? I am not the person to ask. But I, but I do know that, you know, definitely certainly more digital material. Certainly because of the pandemic, we increased our ebook content, our streaming video content, things like that. So those, you know, those kinds of things I mean, you know, we'll certainly continue I think. But there is, you know, there definitely, I mean I don't see it particularly in Queens having, you know, a library that's, there's no books. I think that there's still, and especially introducing books to kids really because, you know, the kids, and even kids say that sometimes I'm sick of this device, you know, you want to sit down in a corner with something and talk about it with your friends or what have you. I mean and there are, you know, we have for teens, we have robot competitions and things like that. Coding classes. So, again, keeping things relevant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3436.0,3513.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yes, actually, I'm very amazed of how everything is done here. So, actually the College of Mount Saint Vincent, they're thinking of doing without actual books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3513.0,3524.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Well, you know, again, academic is a bit different. Academic, is a bit different. There are a couple, there are some academic libraries that have moved towards that. There's even one I think in Texas, it is one branch of a library system, not the entire system, that's gone, you know, all electronic. You come in there and it's, you know, computers and databases and, but then again it's one location in their system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3524.0,3547.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: It's, but again, I don't think that going to-- you know, years ago, they were talking about, you know, the libraries with no books. And I don't think it's going to happen for a while.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3547.0,3569.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yeah. I hope not. What would you advise young people now seeking a career in public libraries?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3569.0,3575.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: I certainly think it's a rewarding career. I certainly have no regrets having been as I said a librarian since, what did I say, 1976.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3575.0,3589.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Long time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3589.0,3592.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Long time. But again, this, you know, the needs are different. If you go to a graduate school in library science now, it first of all it's called most likely the iSchool, which is [unclear]. But you can choose many different roads to take. You know, public libraries is certainly one of them. A desperate need for children's librarian still, for people who, you know, want that, want to work with kids. And there's so many new ways of working with kids, as we said, things are changing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3592.0,3623.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: But if you're someone interested in a service oriented profession, someone interested in interacting with people, because that's, that's important. And, I know some, some graduate schools now are looking at courses specifically geared towards urban libraries because there's, you know, there's some obviously more social factors that come into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3623.0,3653.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Libraries, you know, are hiring many people outside the field too. Because, in Queens we have, we have people with Master's in public health, working, organizing community health programs. We have people with with Master's in social work who are working with our Adult Learning Centers and helping to, these students who enroll, helping them with their issues that may be preventing them from really focusing on their education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3653.0,3683.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So, but there's certainly a place for librarians who want to, people are still looking for leisure reading, and we offer services of guiding people. You know, I read this. I'd like to read something else similar. Can you recommend something, kind of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3683.0,3703.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So, yeah, I still feel, you know, it's a rewarding career. And it's interesting that the-- and there's different types of people, you know, with different backgrounds who may go into libraries. I mean, one thing that would be, you know, we're certainly looking for in the profession, just having attended American Library Association conferences, is diversity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3703.0,3727.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Where, you know, to have people of different more diverse backgrounds learn about what it is as a profession. In some countries, you know, maybe it's not really seen-- I know things, things have changed. For example, a number of years ago in Latin America libraries were not very prevalent. But, it's changing, and changed a lot. And so, but the idea of, you know, even thinking of it as a profession, I know there are-- that's one thing that in Queens we hire lots of teenagers to work in the libraries. I think they say, at one point they said we were the largest employer of teens in Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3727.0,3763.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And in that way kids are exposed to what goes on in a library. Even if they're hired to shelve books, but they may also be hired, they're helping people at the computers, they're, you know, they're doing different things. So, just the idea that many different types of people work in libraries, whether it could be in IT, it could be in different areas. But I still think, you know, public libraries are the place to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3763.0,3786.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So, I have last two short questions. So the second to the last one, you know, you mentioned all these things that you do here. Also the associations that you're part of, you know, like it seems very demanding. So what do you do outside work? Do you even have time for that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3786.0,3807.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yeah no, I certainly make time. As I said, no, I'm involved in these French associations. Yeah, but I also really am a theater buff. So I have with a friend, a couple of friends, I have [unclear]. And travel, definitely travel. I enjoy both in the U.S., but I tend to end up going a lot overseas. Again, not during the pandemic, but since, before. Yeah, those are the [unclear] main things. And food. Trying different cuisines.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3807.0,3847.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3847.0,3847.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: And also I like craft beer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3847.0,3851.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3851.0,3851.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So I like again to try different kinds of beers from different countries and different styles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3851.0,3857.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: So maybe I'll see you in my brewery. So it's very funny, our story right now. My wife and I opened a nanobrewery in Chinatown Manhattan,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3857.0,3869.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3869.0,3869.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yeah, it's called That Witch Ales You.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3869.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: That Witch Ales You? Oh, my goodness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3870.0,3873.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: W-I-T-C-H for witch and A-L-E-S for ales.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3873.0,3878.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: We opened during the pandemic. We're only open during the weekends because we still have our full time job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3878.0,3883.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3883.0,3883.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: I'm still completing my PhD.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3883.0,3886.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: So you were, how did you--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3886.0,3888.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Just home brewing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3888.0,3889.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Oh, really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3889.0,3891.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Maybe we'll see you there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3891.0,3893.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: I'll look it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3893.0,3894.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yeah, That Witch Ales You. So the last question because they asked us to ask this question, I think it's just for the future. Can you suggest someone who's currently or retired librarian for this interview in the future?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3894.0,3913.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Well you could certainly interview my co-assistant director, Cathy Chen. So she's been with the library, it was, she started out here as a children's librarian, I believe in Queens. She's originally from China, from Shanghai and immigrated to Canada and then to the U.S.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3913.0,3932.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Wow. So very interesting story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3932.0,3934.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fred Gitner: Yes, she has her MLS from McGill University, you know. Yeah. But she's, yeah so she, she would be an interesting person for an interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3934.0,3946.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484/transcript/63326/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paolo Rico Sarthou Tagatac-Chan: Yeah thank you so much. I really appreciate this. Let me turn this off and-- I'm so excited.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1432/collection_resources/120257/file/225484#t=3946.0,3955.28"}]}]}]}