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Calandra Italian American Institute, City University of New York; Distinguished Professor of European Languages and Literatures at Queens College; and the co-founder of the Bordighera Press. As the COVID-19 pandemic grew worrisome in the United States, Tamburri recalls how the daily tasks and projects he had been working on at the Calandra Institute came to a halt when states began to enforce a stay-at-home quarantine in March 2020. 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So today's date is May 20th, 2020. My name is Obden Mondesir. I'm collecting this oral history for the Queens Memory COVID-19 Project. I am in Crown Heights on the corner of Schenectady and Eastern Parkway. Um, I am with Anthony Tamburri and Anthony, would you like to share the cross streets that you are on?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2.0,33.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Right now?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=33.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Sure.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=34.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: I'm on Great Meadow Road and State Road 39.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=35.0,42.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Is this in Long Island?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=42.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: No, it's in Connecticut. New Fairfield, Connecticut.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=43.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Okay. And could you tell me the year you were born?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=47.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: 1949\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=55.0,56.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And then for the recording pers— recording purposes, could you spell your name?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=56.0,64.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: T A M B U R R I.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=64.0,67.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Okay, cool. So the first thing I'm going to ask is, could you tell me about the, the first neighborhood that you grew up in?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=67.0,81.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: I grew up in a, in an Italian-American neighborhood in Stanford, Connecticut. It was very much working class with a great deal, still at that time, of immigrants from Italy. So there was an immigrant generation, first and second generation Italian-Americans.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=81.0,109.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And could you— what, what, what did your parents do for a living in Stanford?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=109.0,118.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: They were involved in the garment industry and ran a small dress factory for many years. Women's clothing.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=118.0,138.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And what, what got you into— when did you become, become intrigued in Italian studies and the language?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=138.0,149.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: A little bit in college— a little bit in high school. And then when I went to college, I actually wanted to be a physical education teacher major. And there were a number of reasons, a number of events that sort of collided, et cetera, for which I declared Italian as a major, thinking that I was going to switch back. And then after a semester, I was intrigued by studying Italian, Italian culture, literature and so I stayed. And then I became, I graduated as an Italian major. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=149.0,186.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And could you give me a narrative of once you graduated, like how did you find yourself at Queens College?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=186.0,196.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Sure. Oh, that's a long one.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=196.0,201.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=201.0,201.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: That's a long one in many ways. No. I— when I was an undergraduate, I thought my, my aspirations were basically to be a high school teacher. I was both in Italian and Spanish, Italian major and Spanish minor. And so one of— and I was living in Connecticut. And one of the requirements of teaching was that eventually you would have to get a master's to maintain tenure cause you have tenure after three years, but within a ten-year period, you had to get an MA.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=201.0,234.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: So when I was ready to graduate my undergraduate work, which is at Southern Connecticut State College then— it's called now Southern Connecticut State University— I, I looked into a few master's programs and one was Middlebury College, which at that time was the only American college university that allowed you— that first of all, had a graduate program abroad, an official graduate program abroad and for, for me it was in Italy, well Florence, Italy. And the bulk of your graduate studies was done within the Italian university.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=234.0,278.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: So you actually took classes in the Italian university with Italian students. So— and it was twelve months. You did a summer and then you did nine months in Italy. And so I did that and it was— I'm thinking that I was going to come back and basically teach high school and never go to college again. And instead, and instead, while I was in Italy, I befriended some, some young professors. They were like only two or three years older than I was and they were beginning their careers, hung out with them. They were studying literature and other things.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=278.0,313.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And, and so I sort of \"got the bug\" as we might say. I fell in love with studying literature. And it was sort of halfway through that I decided to look for doctoral programs and then I got accepted, but I waited a year. I taught high school for a year, I went back to Connecticut. And then, and then after a year in high school, I went back and did my doctoral work that I did at University of California, Berkeley. 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At one point I taught at another California college, university for a semester and then I left for Smith College. So in 1981, I went to Smith for two years where I was on a temporary contract because I was substituting for people at Smith who were away for the year. And then I moved back to California for a semester. And then I came back east, I went to Middlebury College and I was, I taught at Middlebury for two and a half years, a spring semester and then two subsequent years.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=349.0,406.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And then I went to Auburn University for a year. Left Auburn after a year and I went to Purdue University, where I was there for thirteen years. And it was at Purdue that basically my sort of professional development came into its own, let's say. And where we were, the Italian Studies were small in number, but we, we had an interdisciplinary major, so we were in collaboration with like Classics and History and a few other departments.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=406.0,440.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And my Italian colleague was in charge of the film studies program. And we began a conference that ran for twelve years there, called roman— the Purdue University Conference on Romance Languages, Literatures and Film. And so we dealt with French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, from all aspects, you know. Literature, film, tiny bit history, not much, you know, some. But basically literature— language, literature and film. We did that for twelve years.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=440.0,473.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And then I left. And in the meantime while I was there with two other guys from two other universities, we started a journal called, \"Voices in Italian Americana,\" and we did that. And then we also began publishing books under an imprint called Bordighera Press. And Bordighera Press is now over thirty years old and its sort of traveled with me a little bit, and now it's at the Calandra Institute. So it's run out of the Calandra Institute in, in Manhattan.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=473.0,508.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: So after Purdue, I was offered a job as Chair of the Department of Modern Languages and— no, no. It was the Department of Languages, Literatures, and Linguistics, yeah. It had a, actually it's a name I really liked: Languages, Literatures, Linguistics. So I— at Florida Atlantic University and I was there for six years. Three years as chair of the department and three years as Associate Dean for Research and Graduate Studies. And I ran a doctoral program, a PhD program in Comparative Studies for the Public Intellectual. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=508.0,547.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And then I left in 2006 to come to CUNY, to Queens College and the Calandra Institute. I was hired as Dean of the Calandra Institute, and the Calandra Institute is under the aegis of Queens College. And so it's a university-wide institute under the aegis of Queens College. So I was tenured in, in the Department of European Languages and Literatures.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=547.0,583.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Okay \n[laughter].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=583.0,586.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: \n[laughter].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=586.0,586.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: So you've been at, basically been at Queens College through the Calandra Institute since 2006.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=586.0,592.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=592.0,593.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Okay, thank you. That's really helpful in providing a background leading, you know, nearly up to this moment. And what I found intriguing when I spoke to Nicola was, you know, there was a moment obviously, Wuhan was one of the places where the coronavirus started, but Italy was one of those places that was an early epicenter.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=593.0,627.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And I guess those that were working in that department— my question is like, were you earlier apprised of this situation than others? And like, could you just tell me what you remember about that time? So like when did you begin hearing about this pandemic and what were you thinking at the time? 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And also I was actually on my wa— and we also have a collaboration with the Dante Alighieri Society, which is a national, international organization in Italy that exists since 1896. So I was actually, had already planned to go to Italy at the end of February and so I was following this from early on. As soon as people started talking about coronavirus in Italy, I, you know, I began following it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=653.0,718.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: So we're talking about January. And I was supposed to leave February 29th. And up until that day, I was still planning on leaving because, while the virus had spread, it had been, it was really concentrated still in the North. And the CDC had ranked, had categor— classified Italy as Level 2. So it was still not, you know, urgent, non-essential travel. And then it was actually the, during the night of February 29, or during the morning, CUNY had sent the— two things happened. One the CDC had classified Italy category three, Level 3, which meant no, you know, urge— no, non-essential travel.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=718.0,772.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And CUNY had also come out at the same time saying that all travel to countries that were CDC Level 3 were not allowed, were canceled. And so my trip was canceled seeing how it was CUNY sponsored. I was going there for, for CUNY, for Calandra business. So, so I've been following it pretty early on. and, and following it with friends of mine since then who lived both— some friends live in Rome and some friends live in, in Florence and then a colleague of ours at CUNY, who's at Brooklyn College, his sister lives in Bergamo.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=772.0,816.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Bergamo is next to Cremona. Cremona was the real hotspot along with Bergamo, that area there. And, and so he was, he was sharing some information about what was going on there and how basically his whole fam— not his whole family, but his sister and her, some of her in-laws, et cetera fell ill. And, and fortunately, you know, were in, didn't end up in the hospital. They mended up in two days and things of that sort. They were able to sort of get on the mend by staying at home. Their, their, their cases weren't as severe as some of the others. Yeah. So that's how I was in touch with it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=816.0,861.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And then the, the Calandra Institute has a TV show once a month through CUNY TV. And so for— we do two special conversations: one with the ambassador to Italy at the end of April and early May with the Consul General of New York. And then for our show, our May show which is half-hour, aired last week, we did— what did we do? We did, we did a series of interviews. I'm sorry. We did a series of interviews with five or six different people, couples about their experience. Some from the North— Milano, Vicenza, and Rome. And then a couple of people from Rome, a mother and son from Rome. And that's online. So, CUNY TV website.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=861.0,923.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=923.0,925.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: So we've been in touch all along with, with people from Italy. I've been in touch all along with people from Italy, friends and for professional reasons.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=925.0,938.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And is there, is there a moment before that reminds you of, of this time?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=938.0,948.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Not— no, no. I wasn't here for, for 9/11. I was in Florida for 9/11. But I think that with regard to a national— I don't know what word you want to use. Despair? Probably not.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=948.0,969.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: National then like, like almost like a global event where like—\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=969.0,973.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Right, right.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=973.0,974.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: A lot of people going to \n[crosstalk]—\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=974.0,975.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: —\n[crosstalk] Exactly.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=975.0,977.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=977.0,979.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Yeah. So, yeah. So, so, yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=979.0,992.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And so you mention that, like, your trip to Italy was canceled on the 29th and that you \n[crosstalk]—\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=992.0,1001.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And eventually canceled the one for this up, for this upcoming summer. Cause we were was supposed to do our, our— we do our seminar, it's a three-week seminar. We do it the last two weeks of June, the first week of July.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1001.0,1016.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And so \n[crosstalk]—\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1016.0,1016.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: —\n[crosstalk] people that—\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1016.0,1019.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Go ahead.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1019.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Oh. So, before I ask you what happened after the, the flight was canceled, could you just, not list but like, tell me of a lot of the things have been postponed because of this pandemic?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1020.0,1035.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Well, an entire sector of what we do at the Institute of course had been canceled. We do a good deal of public programming and so we switched some of that to sort-of online interviews and things of that sort. We had a series, we had a couple of symposia, and one major annual conference that we have, we canceled. You know, we, we have an annual conference at the end, the last full weekend of April. And, you know, it's work that begins early on. It begins basically the previous year, April, May, whatever. The deadline is just, say something like September for, to submit papers and then we go through abstracts.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1035.0,1099.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And at the Institute, you know, we spend time put— accepting, not accepting. Putting together the conference, things of that sort. We did all of that, et cetera. And basically that certain point, we had to cancel everything. So yeah. So we, we actually never even got anything up off the ground. We had one event, maybe, off the ground in Feb— early February. Yeah. We had one or two events. Early Febru— late January, early February. We had all sorts of events planned that we just couldn't do. We collaborated with other people and we could, you know, we just had to cancel them all. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1099.0,1147.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: So, so those are the things. Most of the rest of the work— the research we do, the research our staff members do, various areas of research we do as an Institute with regard to Italian Americans as an affirmative action class from the, protect the class within CUNY— all that stuff we're able to do for the most part. But not, you know, not the public events. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1147.0,1179.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And so, so for you personally, after the 29th when you, you know, your flight was canceled, what, what was it like being, working at Queens College or in CUNY for March 'til the stay-at-home order?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1179.0,1201.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Yeah, yeah. Well, we, we had— we, we thought, you know. I mean we, we all figured we were still gonna continue to work and just figured that Italy was, you know, in the situation it was. And here, of course, we didn't know what was really going on. And late February, early March, we were getting the signals we were getting out of D.C. And the numbers were supposedly low, so on and so forth. So we just kept going. And I think we, we were there until— what was it? The seven— 16th, 17th, or 18th, whenever it was in March. But we were all together, I think March 16th everybody was at the Institute. You know, full staff. And then it was a couple of, couple of days later. I can't remember the date right now. I think it was March 18th. Right, wasn't it, I think? For— New York was sort of shut down, something like that. Whenever we were sent to— I think it was like, yeah. When classes were, yeah. When we went online, right? Around March 18?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1201.0,1271.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Yeah. It was around \n[crosstalk]—\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1271.0,1273.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1273.0,1275.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: —\n[crosstalk] I think it was the 20th.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1275.0,1278.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Yeah, so.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1278.0,1289.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And I guess what, what has that transition been like?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1289.0,1296.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Well we, it— we had to, we had to do like a lot. I was also, while, while we were dealing with our own stuff, I was also on these meetings with the provost and the other deans. You know, that she was having. And so basically what they were doing, we were doing in the sense that we had to make sure that our staff was prepared— well you know, could work from home. So we had to make sure that a good number of them had the equipment, computers and enough, you know?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1296.0,1334.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: So for example, the people who, the two people who deal with our TV, we have pretty powerful computers at the Institute for editing, film editing and things of that sort. So we lent out, obviously, we had to lend down our CPUs, other computers so that they could do their work at home and things of that sort. And, and that took about a week, maybe week and a half, whatever, to get all that straightened out. And, and we did, we succeeded. And we had to buy a couple of small things for people. And it was, which was easier than— you know, like a mouse or something like that. Easier than having to cart it, cart stuff around. So we did that. So we got everybody set up and, and right now everything seems to be functioning well, so that's good. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1334.0,1398.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And I guess initially when you realized that you'd be working from home and doing all this setup, how long did you think, how long did you think this pandemic would go on for?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1398.0,1412.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: We didn't, I think we were all— I don't know. It's a good question. I think we were all thinking a couple of months, you know. We were, we were thinking yeah, a couple of months. I think it was really sort of mid to late April that people, we all started to realize that we're in this for the long haul, you know. And especially in a place like New York City. I mean it's— right now I'm staying in Connecticut, Western Connecticut, on the New York border near Brewster \n[unclear], whatever, which is like an hour and twenty minutes from Manhattan. But we've been, I've been up here since then, since March whatever, 18th, 19th, and been back to Manhattan on a couple of occasions.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1412.0,1468.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And it's just— actually, it's both eerie and interesting. Eerie because basically an empty city. But I was down last week for two days, and it, the city was no longer as empty as it was in April. People, more people were around. More people were driving. Things of that sort. So, but when I went down in April and had to pick something up at the Institute, I, I drove from where I live in Manhattan to the Institute. Now it's about a twenty-five minute walk. And during regular, during, you know, regular business day in Manhattan, if I were to drive it, it would take me about twenty minutes to— you've been in traffic and you go from like fifteen minutes to half an hour. And in late April when I drove it, it took me five minutes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1468.0,1532.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Wow.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1532.0,1533.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Yeah, yeah. It was just straight through, boom. Five and 61st, down to Fifth, left on Fifth, down to 43rd. I don't believe it. And that was it, bingo! It was like five minutes, literally five minutes. Whereas during a regular business day, you know, it would have been like anywhere between fift— fifteen would, is rare. It's usually twenty to thirty minutes if I had to drive down cause you like— you know, I don't drive to work, obviously.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1533.0,1559.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: I either walk, or maybe take public trans, whatever. And, but you know, the fact, the take something, take something big, whatever, take the car down and, you know, park it outside and load it. And then wherever, go wherever I have to go. But this time instead, yeah, it was really interesting. It was just, boom. That was it. I mean, it's— So, so, so I don't know. The building we're in a, you know, we're in a twenty-some odd floor building and really there's no one in the building.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1559.0,1594.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: No one's really working in the building. Most of the offices are closed or maybe one person. It's a building with four floors, four and a half floors are occupied by CUNY. And, and even so, it'll be interesting where we go back to see what happens. The building's already preparing for only two people at a time in the elevator. They're going to open up the stairwells for people to, if they want, they'll be able to walk up one set of stairwells, walk down another set of stairwells and so on and so forth. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1594.0,1631.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And I guess, what's it been like staying in Connecticut as well?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1631.0,1638.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Well, it's different because we're in a, we're in a place called New Fairfield, which is on the— borders Danbury. Danbury is sort of the large town city in Western Connecticut where we are, we're sort of, we're not that far up. And it's, you know, it's a bedroom-type community at this point. Actually a number of people who live up here commute down to Manhattan and the surrounding areas of Manhattan, New York City in general. They'll commute to like Queens, the Bronx, things like that. There's— and we're right on a lake, so you can go out, you can walk around. You don't, you don't have to wear a mask if you don't want to because there's no one around. When, when however, when we go to the stores and stuff, they require— post office, et cetera— they all require a mask. Yeah. And then, you know, in, in our case, we wear masks and gloves, which— a pair of leather gloves, whatever, just to be safe with the surfaces.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1638.0,1716.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: So it's, it's, it's different. Very little, few things are crowded. Connecticut now has opened up today with the first day, haven't been out yet, but the first day for retail places opening. They were going to open up barber shops and beauty salons, but they decided to wait and to give them another ten days to prepare their shops. Not so much the barber shop as the beauty salons and things of that sort. And so in Connecticut, everything was fine at the stores at the very beginning. You know, there was the paper product, a shortage of toilet paper, paper towels, tissues, et cetera. But now everything seems to be available. There were actually, there was at least up here I don't know about elsewhere, but there was up here an egg shortage for about a week or so. But, but then now everything, you go into a supermarket and it's basically chock full. There, there's nothing really missing at all. So yeah. So it's, it's in some ways it's normal. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1716.0,1793.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And how does it make you feel that Connecticut is reopening today?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1793.0,1807.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: You know, I, I do— I think people are pretty conscientious, at least in this area, from what I've seen. I've been into Downtown, I had to go— Downtown Danbury is basically one long street, you know. But I had to go to Downtown Danbury to the bank, people in the bank. Everybody's pretty conscientious with masks, with gloves. I noticed that in the, in the, in Stop and Shop, which is the major food store up here. And yeah, everybody seems to be respectful of the requirements slash suggestions. So that's good. That's really good. So I think it's, you know, we'll have to see. I mean, personally, waiting until the end of May for everything to open up would not have, would not have been a bad idea for me. I'm not one of those \"gotta open up right away.\"\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1807.0,1871.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: On the other hand, you know, this is something that I think a lot of our colleagues realize. You know, those of us who work for a uni— for a college or university, especially something like CUNY which is so large, even though we're going to face pretty dramatic budget cuts. You know, we, we have our paychecks. You know, we're— no one's furloughing us. As far as we know nobody's gonna furlough us, right? So that's the— unfortunately it's the part timers that have been hit and the adjuncts we, we see, unfortunately. There was, I don't know, there was— John Jay already announced cutting 400 adjuncts. There, there was a piece I think in the Daily News a week or so ago, and they interviewed somebody from Queens, an adjunct from Queens, et cetera. But those of, those, those of us who are on the staff as far as, you know, HEO's or, what is it? The other one. DC 37 members of the, you know, the CLTs or HEO's, or the clericals who have secured employment, faculty who have security employment. I mean, we're, we're pretty, what can I say? We're privileged, you know. And if we want to look at this, we're in, we're in a very fortunate, and I would almost say privileged situation in that yeah, we can't go out, yeah we can't go here, we can't go there, but we're not worrying about, we're not worrying about food. We're not waiting for that check to come in. You know, that many people still knock on. And that I think is something we really need to be mindful of.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1871.0,1974.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: I was happy to sort of have the impression that most of my colleagues, my professor colleagues, our understanding of our students. Our students are still significantly working-class, may live at home in a, you know, four or five people, two, three bedroom apartment. Parents one, if not, both are furloughed, you know. Everyone sitting around the table, one table. Maybe everyone doesn't have a device to work on and so on and so forth. We don't, most of us in the, in the academy, I would, most of us let's say just a significant number of us, don't have that problem. And so, so while, sure I'd love to be able to, you know, go to some store in downtown Manhattan, I realized that for, for, for many of us, it's more of an inconvenience than it is a, the, the daily trial and tribulation of dealing with it. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=1974.0,2050.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Yeah. So that's, that's sort of my, my take. I don't know, you know. I just think we're lucky in the academy. Yeah. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2050.0,2066.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And I, I, I think we'll, we'll, we'll get back towards that near the end. I guess one thing I wanted to know about is like, you know, since, since March, what has been, what has been part of your, like your routines working from home? Have you developed any new habits?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2066.0,2090.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: It's been, it's been good. Yeah. Yeah. It's been okay, been a good it's— yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah I haven't— I mean, I, you know, I miss— we have certain interaction at the Institute, I think that is good. We, we have a good relationship overall among staff members. We do a lot of, a lot of constructive chatting, you know, about projects and stuff that we're not doing. And that I, I miss a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah. But otherwise, you know, we, we, we, we were on the phone and, you know, it's okay. But not like, it's not like being at the Institute. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2090.0,2159.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And how has your family been dealing with the situation?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2159.0,2163.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: There's only my wife and I, fine. She's, she's, she's involved in, in her work. It's volunteer work, but it's basically full time. So she's involved. So we've been, we've been doing, you know, we've got two devices up here. We've got a good, broad— good, good, good band up here. A good internet band and stuff like that. So it's been good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so it's good. Yeah. We're all, you know, and then we, we'll take turns going out and stuff because they, the stores require, one, one quote, unquote, one family member at a time. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2163.0,2210.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: So basically, if you both go to the market, only one family member can go inside?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2210.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Yeah. Yeah. So basically thank God we have two cars up here. If we have to run errands, one will run one set of errands and one will run the other. So we do that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2220.0,2231.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Okay.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2231.0,2231.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah. So yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2231.0,2245.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: And, I guess like communicating with other, other family members, like, what's that experience been like? Do you, are you—\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2245.0,2255.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Yeah. We're constantly in touch, yeah. Actually I have a, a niece with two kids who live around here and we actually were talking about maybe in the next week or two, trying to meet up somewhere and social distance as we meet up and stuff like that. So we're, we're sort of figuring that out. But basically, yeah I've been in touch with them and, and, she's, she actually is an advisor for the University of Connecticut and, in Waterbury, the branch in Waterbury, Connecticut. And her husband works for a firm that's considered essential so he's, he's at work. She's been working from home and her, her son is a sophomore at UConn, the University of Connecticut up in Storrs. And so he's been home, so they've been home and we've been chatting and stuff.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2255.0,2306.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And, so it's, it's been, yeah. It's been— we've actually considered, you know, the fact that she's in the academy, we've, we've had some, some familiar topics to discuss.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2306.0,2320.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Could you give me an example?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2320.0,2322.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Well, just about how things are going, you know, with them, like, what's the online going on? How's it going with the University of Connecticut? How are the students reacting? Things like that, things like that. Then the idea of going back, we've talked, you know, going back, not going back. You know, she's an, she's an advisor. So in her case, it's a question of being in an office with students, social distancing, mask, no mask, things of that sort, you know? Yeah. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2322.0,2358.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Sure. And I guess, how do you imagine the next, how do you imagine the fall semester to be with, with, with all this happening? Is that something that you're thinking about? Is that something that you're talking with others? I know you mentioned when you \n[crosstalk]—\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2358.0,2378.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: —\n[crosstalk] Yeah, we're, you know, yeah. For us the building's gonna open soon because we get, you know, we get notices and stuff. The buildings are private buildings, so they're considering obviously opening up when Cuomo give the, the, the word, right, about the pause and stuff. So, but, you know, we'll go back when CUNY says we should go back. So when CUNY allows faculty and staff on campus, then we'll go back as well. And, you know, for us, it's not— if we have to go back and engage in safe, you know, distance, safe distance, et cetera, it's not that much of a problem in the sense that every, every staff member has his or her own office. And so while they're in their office, they can, you know, basically relax and not wear a mask, whatever. And if, you know, we haven't figured this out yet, but I'm thinking that if we go back and we still have to engage in some of these practices, then when they get up to go to the bathroom or go to another office or go to make photocopies, then they'll have to put on their mask and stuff because the hallways are pretty thin.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2378.0,2466.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: You know, they're normal hallways. Not normal like at Queens, but normal hallways in a building. So what are we talking, like five feet or something like that? You know. So, so they'll wear probably— the best scenario would be that in their offices, they won't have to be concerned with masks, things of that sort. But when they leave their office, they'll have to wear masks. We'll have to figure something out for the, for the men's room and the ladies room because they're small, you know. We're talking about, bathrooms with two stalls, maybe maximum, you know. So, so we'll figure something out with there, but that, I think all of that will be easy. The main thing will be, of course, we have a little gallery where we have an exhibit. We have exhibits there. People maybe want to come, we'll have to figure all that out. Maybe we won't have any, we won't do any exhibiting until, until things are figured, you know, things are, relax more. So, yeah. So anyway, so that's where, that's where we are with that. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2466.0,2543.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Hello? Hello?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2543.0,2545.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: No, I'm, I'm here. I put myself, I put myself on mute. It's the first time I forgot. And so how do you feel about how the, the government like, and like just systems in general have responded to the pandemic? So when I say systems, I'm thinking about CUNY, I'm thinking about the mayor. I'm also thinking about the governor. And then I'm also thinking about like the federal government.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2545.0,2584.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2584.0,2584.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: I know these are like multiple institutions, but like all effected.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2584.0,2591.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: I think, you know, you know, I, I think that, I think— look, we could have, everybody could have started earlier, right. So we know that and I think everybody's, well, the city and the state have admitted that. I think Cuomo had admitted at one of his many daily briefings, I think those daily briefings are really good. I think he gives the information that we all need. Those of us who were in New York, I think we, we feel, what's the word? We— not, not comforted, but we, we feel confident that we're getting the information that is out there and it's the information we need to have. And I think in that sense, things have been really good. So we sort of, we, so in that sense, it's good. I was glad to see— look, it's no secret that the mayor and the governor are not best of friends, don't always see eye to eye, but it was nice to see that they came together here.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2591.0,2659.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Maybe at the very beginning, there might've been one or two, glitches, miscommuniques or whatever. But since the early initial meetings or, not meeting but communiques that they've made, now it seems around the same, there's some sort of communication going on, which is good. So that what we hear from the mayor, we're hearing similar things at a state level from the governor and so on and so forth. And I think that what the mayor, I think as far as whatever the mayor controls, that he's done a pretty good job. As best one could. I mean, you know, we have the largest everything in New York state, right. We have the largest city, New York City. We have the largest school system in New York City and so on and so forth.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2659.0,2711.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And as everyone says, one size does not fit all. And clearly dealing with— New, New York and California are the two probably biggest challenges in this country. And then California itself is like, what is it? Like the fifth largest economy in the world or something like that. You know? So in some ways these two states are two little countries, right? And so I think, I'm, I'm, I feel good about what we've been hearing. I don't feel good about what we've been hearing at the national level, you know, and it's really too bad. I'm old enough to have seen the CDC, you know the Center for Disease Control, be the leading voice over over the decades. And, and here they're not, and that's too bad. It's, but it's the era in which we live. I don't know what to say, except it's the era in which we live in. It's a sad statement that, that science and data are taking a back seat to two people's whims and desires.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2711.0,2787.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: So everybody wants to, you know, everybody wants to go back to work and everybody wants to go to the beaches, whatever. But they're dangerous. They're dangerous. We see it. They're dangerous. So, and it's not just old people that— yeah. That's come, I think that's come home to roost I think for finally, I think for people. Although not for everybody it seems.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2787.0,2815.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: No.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2815.0,2815.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Some of our national polities in terms of what I'm talking about, you know. There was an interesting documentary last night from Italy or done by a woman who is, I think, of Italian origin but doesn't live in Italy. And she went and followed a doctor for a period of time up in Cremona, which is of course the hotspot in March and April. Followed her in March and April and May. And, and, and, and indeed one of the people that they had to intubate was an eighteen year-old they basically thought he was gone. And throughout the documentary, they go back to him. And of course, eventually he ended up going home. You know, he ended up com— coming off the intubation and the ventilator and getting better. And, and of course he left to go home to, for final convalescence and stuff. So, so he made it. But still, it's the fact that this very healthy looking eighteen year-old was, you know, \"zapped,\" you know?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2815.0,2883.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Yeah and there's also the issue of there have been developments in the virus itself, where like some children are showing symptoms akin to the Kawasaki disease.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2883.0,2898.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Exactly.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2898.0,2899.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2899.0,2900.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Yeah, yeah. So, so yeah. I mean, I think in the long run the, the government, most of the governors I think could have been duly cautious and, and doing all their best to be cautious, but also to try to open things up. You know, we got lucky in New York and New York state. Was it yesterday, there were like no deaths, I think was it or something? There was something, something happened where there was zero. I can't remember now whether it was hospitalization or deaths or something, it was down to zero, which was good. Maybe it wasn't deaths, maybe it was hospitalization.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2900.0,2946.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: So it's been a long haul and it's going to be another long haul of a different type. Less dramatic, probably. As long as people are stupid, you know, as long as people have, have their— you know, wear the mask when need be. And so you put a mask on to go to the post office, what's the big deal? Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2946.0,2971.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: So of course, you know, it'd be nice if we can somehow get back. We can open up CUNY. That would be good, but it's understandable that it might have to happen in phases. I'm glad CUNY hasn't made that decision yet.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2971.0,2989.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Yeah and \n[crosstalk]—.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2989.0,2989.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: How would you imagine the first phase to be of if CUNY would, to were open gradually?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2989.0,2996.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Well, I think, I think, you know. I, I, I guess it's the question of teaching and workload and staggering classes and things of that sort, but which is one thing. And that could be, you know, that could be done without great problems, right? Because instead of everybody teaching between nine and three let's say whenever, you know, the best, the preferred schedules are. You know, people can go from eight to six. Maybe classes— the day, the day extend and things of that sort. That's one way to do it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=2996.0,3035.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: But then there's the issue of, of students in a class so that— you know, what happens when you have Introduction to Sociology 101, where you have 250 students, right? How do they distance in a, in a class or even every other seat is not good enough. We know, right. So it's gotta be minimum every two seats to have, you know. Or every \n[unclear] every fourth seat would be occupied, whatever, every third seat would be occupied. Things of that sort.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=3035.0,3069.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: That's what, that's where it gets problematic, because then the, the enrollments in the class have to be regulated. So a professor who might normally teach a large class with a 100, 150 students, maybe have to reduce that class to seventy-five. So does that mean that the professor does two sections? Well then we get into workload issues, right? In, in the sense that it's teaching two sections of the same subject matter or two classes. A professor is supposed to teach, let's say, whatever fifteen hours or twelve, nine hours a semester or whatever it is, you know, they end up teaching more.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=3069.0,3110.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And so then you get into contractual issues and things of the sort. Yeah. So, so yeah. That's going to be problematic for the administration to figure out. But I think it'll, I mean, I suspect there's going to be a type of jubilance when we go back, you know. However, however, we— I think people are going to be really happy to be back. And hopefully, you know, hopefully we've all sort of recalculated and, you know, our, our thinking on a lot of things. One being, you know, one being education, one being going to class and things of that sort. Yeah, maybe it is really a good thing. Maybe it's a welcome thing. Maybe it is fun, so on and so forth. Yeah, so.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=3110.0,3163.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Okay, yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=3163.0,3166.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Okay.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=3166.0,3169.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Oh my mic— okay good it's on. Is there anything that we haven't discussed that you wanted to mention?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=3169.0,3176.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: No. No. I think, you know— no, I think we're, I think we covered just about everything, you know. I mean the only, you know, the big we don't, well, we don't know at Queens is the transition of a new president coming in under these circumstances, you know. But fortunately he's been in touch with, you know, he's been almost daily contact with, I think, administrators from Queens and stuff, so that's good. So he knows, he knows what's going on.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=3176.0,3214.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: And the transition will be, I think, much smoother than, than, than it might. It would be much better, I think, than it could have been had he not— you know, because I think we'll have a good transition. I'm confident in that. So that's the only unknown, I guess is the new president. But, but it'll be good. He's, he's, he's been around, you know. According to his record, he's been around, he's been, he's been a college administrator for a number of years. So that's a good, good, a good mindset of coming to Queens and things of that sort. Coming to Queens as Queens the borough, coming to Queens College, and things of that sort. So that'll be fun. I think it'll be professionally fun, you know, to have him with us. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=3214.0,3267.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nObden Mondesir: Okay, cool.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=3267.0,3268.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833/transcript/24366/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\nAnthony Tamburri: Okay. Alright. So I'll get these things filled out for you, you know, sometime in the next hour or two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/39438/file/110833#t=3268.0,3274.188"}]}]}]}