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So let's officially get started. I have to—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=0.0,3.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3.0,3.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: I have some language that I'm going to read. This is Anna Williams with Kate—do you prefer Kate or Katie?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3.0,10.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Kate. Kate O'Connell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=10.0,11.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay. This is Anna Williams with Kate O'Connell and a little later I'll be with Scott Robinson. We are recording on Wednesday, August 12th, 2020 for the Queens Memory COVID-19 Project. Kate, could you give me your full name and spell it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=11.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Kate, K-A-T-E. O'Connell, O, apostrophe, capital C, O-N-N-E-L-L.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=28.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Thank you. How old are you and what part of Queens do you live in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=35.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: How old am I? Honestly! [laughter] The gall of you young people. I'm 56 and I live in Queens Village in Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=40.0,52.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay. It's a required question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=52.0,54.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Yeah. Baloney.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=54.0,56.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: [laughs]. What are your preferred pronouns?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=56.0,59.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: She/her is fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=59.0,62.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay. So let's get into your story with Scott and why we are talking today. So first I want to get a little bit of background. Can you tell me how did you two meet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=62.0,74.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: 20 years ago he was Joseph Chaikin's assistant. Joseph Chaikin was a big director, a theater director who was aging, and Scott was assisting him and they were running a masterclass and I was in the acting class. And my scene partner got cast in some Shakespeare show going to Taiwan and left, and so I was bereft of a scene partner. And so Joseph told Scott, you know, you go work with Kate. So we became friends, just working in theater. That's how we met.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=74.0,109.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: And so how long after that did you start dating?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=109.0,115.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: About maybe five months, I think. We met in January and I think our first date was in May.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=115.0,122.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay. Who asked who out?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=122.0,127.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Well, you know, we were doing theatery things and then I was divorced and had two kids. And so I was part of a whole school. Like when you have kids, you're, you meet so many people that have kids. And there was a girl in the high school where my kids went to school. My kids were in the lower school. And she wanted to be an actress. And so I had been doing acting—this was before I became a nurse—I had been doing acting and all kinds of stuff for my whole life. That's what brought me to New York. And she asked her mom, \"Oh, could you ask Ms. O'Connell if I could follow her around for a day and see what it's like to be an actress?\" 'Cause it was Career Day. So her mom called—this is a friend—and said, \"Oh, can, you know, Emily follow you around?\" And so I was like, \"Oh God, like, what am I doing?\" You know, actors lead complicated, weird lives. So I was like, \"I don't even know what I'm doing that day. But yeah!\" So I knew Scott was stage managing a show at the Cherry Lane Theater in The Village and I called and I said, \"Hey, are you doing a rehearsal? Like, could I just bring this young girl by so she could—\", you know, remember, I'm trying to show her what the career is. And he just started laughing. He's like, \"What are you going to do? Get a copy of Backstage and some cigarettes and just sit in a cafe with her?\" And I'm like, \"No, that's not what an actor's life is.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=127.0,204.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: But, yeah, so we went and saw his rehearsal and then I was grateful to him for doing that. 'Cause I actually, I did have a couple auditions that day. So I brought this girl on auditions. We went to rehearsal and then, whatever, that was Career Day. So I called him and I said, \"Thank you so much. I have tickets to this show—\", you know, that someone had given me some free tickets to this really bad show in Times Square; I won't say the name—\"and let's go and, you know, I want to say, thank you.\" And he's like, yeah, sure. So we met at this bar before and, so it wasn't really a date, but, and we had done other social things, but we were going to this really, really bad show. And so right before we left the bar, we just had a beer to go to the show, he kissed me. So that kind of became our first date. And then we sat through this really horrible show together just like, oh my god, and it was, I mean, it was bad beyond bad, just like excruciatingly bad. And then we left there and we went back to the same bar, it was the Bull Moose in Times Square, which is closed now since COVID. And, yeah, and then we just [unclear] nonstop since then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=204.0,271.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: So it sounds like you didn't really see it coming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=271.0,276.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: No, but I was, we were definitely flirty and I was attracted to him. Even though when I first met him in the actor's masterclass that I was doing with Joe Chaikin, I didn't really like him at first. I was like, man, I [unclear] really like that guy, you know? And I was also wary 'cause I was, you know, was out of a marriage. I'd only been married for seven years, but I had two kids. And so I wasn't really like, looking, but yeah, it was a surprise. It was a great kiss.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=276.0,306.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay. So how did you, it seems like you guys eventually like were living together, obviously before you got married recently, correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=306.0,318.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=318.0,319.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: So, you said you've been together for 20 years now? So how long were you together before you decided to basically be like domestic partners?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=319.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Well, it was a full year before I even let him meet my children. So I was dating him, you know, without him meeting my kids 'cause I was super paranoid and didn't want to bring someone in their lives and I didn't know him and, you know, whatever. So after that year we still just dated and had two places. He was in Astoria and I was here in Queens Village. I'm going to say it was at least six years that we were just dating in two different places. And maybe a few years after that he would sleep over, you know, like that became a thing. It was like, okay, he's here. And of course the boys love him and it's a great relationship for everybody. And then we moved in together in—little bit after I graduated from nursing school, so nine years ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=330.0,380.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay. And did like—were your boys still in the house?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=380.0,386.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Yeah. Yep. The youngest was, our oldest was in college, but the youngest was still in like, beginning of high school, I guess. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=386.0,396.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay. So you've kind of already touched on this, but I want to hear like about the decision to get married and if there was any kind of like proposal or what—how did this, how did this next step get taken?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=396.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: So all the years, all the years and totally committed, like we've been together 20 years. We absolutely love each other. We really have a very nice, wonderful relationship, very happy and, and fun. And he was always, he's never been married, you know? I think, I don't know, actually. I mean, we talk about it all the time, but I, my story is that, you know, he always kind of wanted to get married and I was always like, \"Hmm, you know, I've been married. Like, I love you. I'm with you.\" He used to make a joke that, well, we'll just keep renewing our cell phone contract together. That'll be our marriage. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=413.0,449.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: So we went away. I was working nights. I was still a relatively new nurse. I'd maybe been nursing for about two years and I was on nights. And we went on vacation to Puerto Rico. [He] surprised me that Christmas with tickets to paradise or something, like wherever you want to go, let's go somewhere warm in the winter. And so we went to Puerto Rico and because I was working nights, I was just like such a lame-o. Like I would sleep until, you know, two in the afternoon and wake up and he'd been up since eight, you know, whatever, out in the beach. But this one morning he—it wasn't morning, it was afternoon—he came in and I was sleeping and he's like, \"Come down to the beach, come down to the beach.\" I'm like, \"Oh, I can't wake up.\" He [unclear], \"Come down to the beach.\" So I said, \"Okay, okay I'm coming.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=449.0,492.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: And about an hour later I trudged down to the beach. It's like four or five in the afternoon and he's got two seats there and a table and he's just in a mood, he's just happy. And he's just like, \"Come on.\" You know, and he got some champagne there and I was like, \"Oh, this is awesome.\" You know, I love champagne. So we're sitting there at the beach and he stood up and he drew a big heart in the sand, around our chairs with his foot, like a giant heart. And then he got down on one knee and he had a blue Tiffany's box. And I was like, oh my God. You know? And he said, \"Kate, will you open this box?\" And I said, \"Yes.\" So I opened the box and then when I got to the ring, he said, you know, \"Will you marry me?\" And I said, \"Yes.\" And it was great because there was this—beach was pretty empty. It was February 2013. And there was a family up, kind of up, right of us. And they just started clapping and like cheering because they watched the whole pantomime. You know, it was really sweet. So, yeah, so we got engaged in 2013 and we still didn't get married until 2020. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=492.0,556.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Wow. Okay. So tell me, you know, why, what were—did you have wedding plans? Or were you just like, this is, where it, when it feels right, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=556.0,567.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: So it immediately became a thing. He would love to have like a 7,000 person fiesta, you know, and I'm just like, oh my God, I'd rather die. I just, you know, I have some complicated family members. Anytime you have a party, it can become just, you know, miserable. [laughs] And I was anxious about that. I don't know. I had a lot of—I was anxious about it. And so we just talked about it for years, you know, like, come on, what are we going to do? We need to do this. And then we're busy, you know, you get on to things and you just don't deal with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=567.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: And then we finally decided on a very small wedding, like, City Hall, bring in the families. He's got family from Chicago. I have family from Massachusetts and from Minnesota and from North Carolina. And just immediate family, and we'll have like, you know, City Hall and then a big bagel fest at Sadelle's in SoHo, you know, just a simple small weekend affair. And I was like, okay, I think I can tolerate that. Even though, you know, a couple of the alcoholics have to be there, it's like, all right, I'm going to get through it for him. Like, we'll do it. So we planned the whole thing. Like we had the whole thing booked, and then I got diagnosed with cancer—stage three cancer—in May of 2018. We were going to get married July 27th, 2018. And I got diagnosed with cancer. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=608.0,662.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: I didn't see that coming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=662.0,664.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: No, right? Spoiler alert. So, kaboom, our whole world blew up. And by the time July 27th came around, I mean, I was in the middle of chemo. I lost all my hair and I'm like, I'm not doing tragic bald bride. Nope. Not doin' it. That's not me. I am not doin' it. And I didn't want that to be our story either. I was like, yeah, this is just, you know, everything sucks right now. And I can't do it. So we canceled everything. And I'm such a good girl. I felt like when we were writing the hotels and Sadelle's that they were going to be like, they must be making this up. You know, like, we told them we had a very serious, you know, medical issue and we have to cancel everything, 'cause we put deposits down on everything. And everyone was very understanding. So that was a nice New York moment where people were just like, oh my gosh, you know, like, let us know if you ever want to restart these plans.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=664.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: So I had to get through chemo and surgery and radiation, which took us into 2019. I couldn't work. I had to be out of work for almost a whole year. And then slowly, you know, last summer we started, you know, I started just kind of getting my life back together a little. I was able to go back to work per diem in the hospital, so just doing like eight hour shifts, kind of intermittently. It was very, just [unclear] I was weak, I just was out of it. And you know, being a nurse, you got to really be on—firing on all cylinders. So we came into 2020 and it was like, all right, let's just—you know, we'll redo the whole thing this summer. We'll do it in 2020. It's an even year, whatever kind of superstition we have. And, great, we'll do it, you know? And then, pandemic hit!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=720.0,776.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: So it's like, oh my God, you know, what are we going to do? We were laughing about it too 'cause it was like, oh boy, this is what you get for putting it off for 20 years. So then, New York came up with Project Cupid. Somehow—I think Scott might have—it's very hard. I don't remember who heard of it or who first said it. We saw it in the Times, we saw it online, or we saw an, you know, something on News Hour or something. And we started reading about it and right away I was like, oh God, you know, not a Zoom wedding. But there was part of me that was like, okay, Kate, like this kind of allows you to have all—a lot of people without any of that, you know, anxiety of a social event because they're in their own room and they're not going to be coming around or—they're going to be muted! [laughs] How about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=776.0,835.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: You know, so, and Scott is a producer. He makes commercials. That's what he does. He lives in film and video. He's got a theater background. Like that's how we met. So he just went to town. I mean, he was like, you know, this can be awesome. Literally created a four camera shoot for the wedding. You know, just like made all these different Zoom windows. We worked with a company actually called Wedfully. That must have sprung up because of the pandemic, because suddenly now people are getting married on Zoom. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=835.0,865.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: This is incredible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=865.0,867.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: We got married on the same day, 2020, July 27th. That was the day we were supposed to get married in 2018. But we did it on Zoom, July 27th, 2020. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=867.0,875.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Well, congratulations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=875.0,877.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=877.0,878.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Do you, let's see, I'm like, we ran through a lot of my questions. I'm in the last few minutes—wondering what else I can ask you. So what would you, what, first, what would you tell other couples who are in your position who are thinking like, should we postpone, should we do a Zoom wedding? Should we do Project Cupid? Like what would you say to them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=878.0,903.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Well, I work with a lot of young women. 'Cause a lot of, I mean, I came into nursing late in life, but a lot of the women I work with in the ER are very young. So a lot of them are in their, you know, they're getting married and of course their plans were the typical 20-year-old female plans. You know, they wanted the big bash and wanted to go to, you know, whatever—bachelorette parties now, they're like frickin' cruises. But, you know, they all know that we did this. And we invited a ton of people. A ton of people saw it. The thing that was great that I didn't expect was that everyone who came to the Zoom wedding just—people were calling us and texting us and emailing us and we've gotten cards and people saying that was the most beautiful wedding I've actually ever been to. They said it was so intimate. It was so beautiful. You could, I think because you weren't in a big space and you were here in this, you know, audio and video environment that we're all living in now, they could really hear us and, you know, a lot of them know what we've been through in the last couple of years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=903.0,966.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: So it might've been moving for that reason, but a lot of people don't know anything about what we've been through and they just said, you could hear everything so beautifully. And like, just to be able to watch you two, you know, talk—now Scott also built a chuppah in the dining room. So we had this chuppah there and he, you know, we decorated it with fresh flowers and we really did—it was a lot of work for us to do it, you know. And Project Cupid was easy peasy. I mean, that really was just like a bureaucratic talking head to get through all the paperwork. And they offer you, you can do it with them online, like, you know, but we did, we wanted—obviously the producer wanted to have more control over everything. [laughs] So we did it on Zoom. But yeah, I would say to people, in a way I would say don't put it off just because you don't know what's going to happen. And this really can be a fun thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=966.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: People had a lot of fun. People got a lot out of it. What was hard though, and it might've been harder if we were younger too, was after. You just feel like you've—once the Zoom is over, and you can stay on, you know, Zoom has breakout rooms. So this company said, oh, you can create breakout rooms that are like reception tables. And they kind of beam you into them each for two minutes, which is perfect, and then they beam you out. So you can't stay too long, you know? And for me, I was like, right on, this is great. And you can stay as long as you want on the last room, which is usually your family, which we did for awhile. But then when that shuts off, it was a lonely feeling a little bit. 'Cause you have a lot of energy, you just got married and—but you, you know, there's no band, you know what I mean? Like I realize you dissipate so much energy at the reception and people talking. And so we were just wired like in this apartment [makes electricity sound] but it was great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1020.0,1074.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: What did you do with that energy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1074.0,1076.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Well we, over the course of the entire day we drank a lot of mimosas [laughs] so that by—I think I had three mimosas by four in the afternoon and I was like, wow, I'm going to have to go to sleep. And then our kids, the boys right away who had been at their own Zoom location in Astoria—right after the wedding they called and they just said, we need to see you, like, we need to come over. And you know, it's okay to get together in small groups and, you know, so they came over that night. It was really good to see them and be with people. Yeah. You know, and we all have masks on and whatever, stayed our distance. But you know, whatever, we got sushi and we did typical Queens kind of just fun and—but it was really, yeah, felt good to see them and rub elbows and just, you know, it's just such a weird time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1076.0,1131.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Was it hard for you to not have them there present for the ceremony?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1131.0,1135.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Yeah, I think it was hard for both of us and, you know, we both are—my father is passed away, but my mom is still alive, and Scott's parents are still alive. And I think that was hard, I think, especially for him, because again, I think in the Jewish tradition and under that chuppah, you have the parents, you know, standing there. I'm Irish. I don't know. I don't know about that. I've been to plenty of weddings, but I don't know the meaning of everything. So I think that was hard, you know, not to have our elderly parents there, but, then, you know, it's, it was weirder for us because we couldn't really see everyone. It wasn't until we got the video that we saw, like, wow. Like there was like one point a hundred and—you know, we invited like, Scott was just like, hey, no bar tab. Let's just invite the world! So there was about a hundred and, I don't know, thirty people at one point or something. So that was nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1135.0,1188.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1188.0,1188.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1188.0,1188.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: You're emotional talking about it. Like, do you have, are you carrying feelings of grief or sadness that you didn't have the people that you loved around you on that day or is it something else?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1188.0,1201.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: I think it's one of those, you know, crying from it being really lovely. [shows emotion] But it also just represented just coming out of a bad time, you know, like so much [pause] that we've been through personally. And then everything that I went through at the hospital was just—it was really hard to see people on, we have an iPad, you know, that we could bring to people before we had to intubate them so that they could talk to their family 'cause they weren't going to be able to talk for a while and they were gonna, you know, go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and [pause] there's something about screens now, you know, that is representative to me of a disconnection. Even though we have to use them to connect, to me it's also a symbol of just this really profound disconnection that's going on between people that love each other. So, you know, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1201.0,1269.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: What are you carrying away from this experience?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1269.0,1272.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: From getting married on Zoom? From getting married on Project Cupid?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1272.0,1279.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1279.0,1280.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: It was, it was real. There was also a part of me because I have this, you know, anathema about screens that thought, oh, this is just gonna be, you know, I just have to endure this. But really the minute we stepped under the chuppah and our officiant started welcoming people, it got very real. It felt very real. I would also say that to anyone who's considering it. It was, it was heavy and real and great! And now we're married, we're having a laugh about that. And the chuppah is still in the dining room. It's still there at the—dried flowers now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1280.0,1322.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: [laughs] Are you like eating dinner under it every night?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1322.0,1324.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Yeah, we are. Eat under the chuppah. We put the table back under it and we're eating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1324.0,1329.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Well, this has been an amazing story. Thank you so much for sharing it. Twists and turns that I didn't even know were part of it. I mean, you're an ER [emergency room] nurse and you're a cancer survivor. I mean, this is—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1329.0,1349.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Been a wild 20 years with this guy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1349.0,1352.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Well, speaking of that guy, I am looking forward to talking to him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1352.0,1355.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Is he in the waiting room? Did he buzz in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1355.0,1358.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: I haven't seen him buzzing in just yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1358.0,1363.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: He's under the chuppah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1363.0,1365.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: [laughs] I'm glad I'll get to see it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1365.0,1369.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Scotty, are you going to be under the chuppah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1369.0,1371.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Oh, yeah—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1371.0,1371.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: You can buzz in. Can you see it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1371.0,1375.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Yes. It's, it is beautiful. I wouldn't take it down either. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1375.0,1379.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: I know. It's going to be very hard to take it down. The flowers are all like drying up now. We had beautiful flowers. But Scott put all the lights on it. He built it! That was—that was I think only two trips to Home Depot, no?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1379.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: My largest construction project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1394.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: This is, in some ways it seems like this made your wedding more special because there was so much of a DIY [do it yourself] element to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1394.0,1408.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Oh yeah, it was completely DIY. Oh, the other thing I didn't tell you—so we actually went to Alley Pond Park. Amazing, Scott, I left—Scott, can you hear me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1408.0,1417.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1417.0,1417.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Oh, good. On July 7th, so 20 days before the wedding wedding, we went to Alley Pond Park and we did a handfasting, which is an Irish, old ancient Celtic ritual. And we did that with the boys. The boys were there for that and Joe's girlfriend, our oldest's girlfriend, and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1417.0,1436.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Where's the bind?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1436.0,1436.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Oh, it's up on the, it's on the [unclear].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1436.0,1439.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1439.0,1441.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Do you know what a handfasting is?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1441.0,1443.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1443.0,1444.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: So it's a Celtic ritual that comes from an ancient tradition where in the winter they used to, a couple could bind their hands together. And it was a symbolic way of saying, we're going to give this a try, which I love. [laughs] Wasn't permanent. And then you could slip out of the binds, but you didn't, you never untied the knot. As long as you wanted to stay together, you never untied the knot. You never cut the bind. So yeah, there it is, Scott has our bind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1444.0,1467.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: After 20 years Kate still wants it to be like, \"Oh, you know, it's, it could be, you know, maybe it doesn't work after the bind.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1467.0,1481.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: [laughter]. Okay. Well—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1481.0,1482.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Spring time the couple could say, \"Oh, forget it. This did not work. We just spent the hard winter together. I'm walking away.\" Even if there was a child. This is way back, you know, in the pagan days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1482.0,1492.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And we have two! [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1492.0,1496.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: So, so yeah, we did that and we made, again, because we have Mr. Producer here, we made a video of that in Alley Pond Park, in Queens. And we showed that little video right at the beginning of our wedding. So we had the Irish and the Jewish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1496.0,1509.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: That's lovely. And really, whatever video you're willing to share, one or both, I would love to somehow incorporate audio from those videos into the podcast episode. And then they would also be housed at the Queens Memory archive for future documentarians who want to talk about what happened in Queens. You'll be part of the story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1509.0,1535.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1535.0,1535.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1535.0,1537.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Should I exit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1537.0,1538.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Yeah. I'm going to talk to Scott. Kate, it was lovely talking to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1538.0,1542.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Yeah, it was great. Thank you so much. And good luck with this project. I can't wait to hear it, sounds really fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1542.0,1546.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Thanks. Yeah, and, yeah, take care.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1546.0,1550.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Thanks. I'll send you the link to my pandemic ER thing too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1550.0,1554.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Perfect. Yes. Thank you. All right, bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1554.0,1557.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1557.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay. Hey Scott, you're in the hot seat now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1560.0,1563.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Hello. I'm in the hot seat. Very nice to meet you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1563.0,1565.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Nice to meet you too. So I have a couple of things that I need to run through with you, just at the top here. So, did you have a chance to look over the consent form that I sent over through email?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1565.0,1579.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: I did not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1579.0,1580.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay. So basically it's just, it's just a form. You don't have to sign it or anything. I just need a verbal consent that—it's just basically releasing our interview to a Creative Commons license for future, you know, researchers or documentarians to access and use from the Queens [Memory] Archive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1580.0,1601.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Absolutely. You know, go future documentarian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1601.0,1607.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: [laughs] Okay. So let's see. Yep. I'll just get started with kind of my script and then get into the questions. So this is Anna Williams with Scott Robinson. We are recording on Wednesday, August 12th, 2020 for the Queens Memory COVID-19 project. Scott, could you give me your full name and spell it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1607.0,1628.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Oh, my full name is Michael Scott Robinson. M-I-C-H-A-E-L. S-C-O-T-T. R-O-B-I-N-S-O-N. That was the first gift my parents gave me was to give me a first name, but always refer to me by my middle name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1628.0,1651.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: [laughs] So you also have the pleasure of having the first and last name of Michael Scott, the character from The office.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1651.0,1659.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Absolutely. Yeah. I know. Have you watched Space Force yet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1659.0,1665.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: I—I've only watched like part of one episode of Space Force. Are you enjoying it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1665.0,1669.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Oh yeah, it's great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1669.0,1670.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay. So how old are you and what part of Queens do you live in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1670.0,1676.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Oh, I am 53 years old and I live in Queens Village. That's 11427.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1676.0,1687.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: [laughs] Thank you. Okay. And Scott, what are your preferred pronouns?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1687.0,1694.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: My preferred pronouns are geezer, whitey, and Jew boy, but most people refer to me as he/him/his.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1694.0,1705.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay, thank you. So I have heard—I'm going to ask you the same set of questions that I asked Kate, and maybe you heard her responses, and you're more than welcome to elaborate on her responses. I have a vision that I'm going to cut this together, like one of those couples from When Harry Met Sally, and have your voices telling the same story, but kind of like cutting over each other. So the first question is, how did you two meet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1705.0,1734.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: We met, I was working as an assistant with Joseph Chaikin, one of the great off-Broadway directors, and he had a class that brought together directors and actors. And then as the fates would have it, Kate was in a scene with an actor who got hired for a musical to go—he was on a tour somewhere. I forget where. It was far away. Anyway, Kate was then left without a scene partner. So since we were kind of in the middle of the classes, everyone was already partnered up. So I was Joe's assistant doing a lot of paperwork and, you know, taking attendance and things like that. So someone just said, \"Well, why doesn't Scott just step in?\" And lucky for me, I did. And we were, we did a scene from a play called Mud by Irene Fornés and we played, I believe it was fornicating brothers and sisters. It's a very crazy, odd play. But yep, that's what brought us together. That's how we met.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1734.0,1817.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: So what did you think the first time you saw her?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1817.0,1819.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: The first time I saw her was, wow. You know, she's an impressive person to me and, you know, and then being in a scene with a person is like being thrown into the lion's cage. You know, this isn't someone that you can marginally participate with. Being in a scene, and the kind of scene that we were in, we had to interact with one another intensely. And we had a director whose first idea was for us to wrestle. So we had this, we were both handed this script and then we had to wrestle each other while we said our lines. That was our first kind of interaction together. So I was impressed. And then I was also just, I'm really hoping to hold my own in the wrestling, line-reading rehearsal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1819.0,1881.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: She told me that your first date, she didn't even intend for it to really be a date. It was kind of like a thank you for letting me show this kid around your theater. But you kissed her, and then she was like—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1881.0,1897.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: [laughs] Yeah. So we were at the Bull Moose Saloon and it was over on Ninth Avenue. It's not there anymore. I had popped in a couple of times over the years just to check the place out and then unfortunately once I went back and it wasn't there, as things happen in New York. But, yeah, so we were slated to go see, I don't know, you know, I don't remember exactly what I thought. I don't think I realized it had anything to do with a thank you for that—I was a stage manager for a project—that was just a lot of fun to have, you know, your friend showing up at your work. You know, that was fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1897.0,1946.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: We were slated to go see a play. We stopped at the Bull Moose for a drink and then she went to the restroom and as she was in the restroom, I was like, okay, Robinson, like, what's the deal here? Like, what are you going to do? I was really getting more and more smitten with every moment. And so I just wondered if I had it in me to just kiss her. And I did. And as I recall, I'm not sure if this is exactly accurate, but I kissed her and then the first words out of her mouth were, \"Oh, no, you're one of those.\" [laughs] And I'm not sure if I've ever actually—only now thinking about it, these 20 something years later—I'm not sure that I ever followed up to find out what one of those were all about. And let the record state it's the first time I've ever just kissed a woman like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=1946.0,2004.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: What made you take that leap then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2004.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: I don't know. I don't know. I was just, you know, we had had, we had been bonded. We were working together and things and I guess I, I just—it's so funny because the rest of our relationship, you know, I just wanted to really have that moment. I really wanted to move—see if our relationship could move in that direction. And then, you know, 20 something years later, like I just took that first step instantly and then, you know, I let the rest of the thing [unclear] by itself for over 20 years, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2010.0,2051.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Yeah. So speaking of those 20 years, she said, you know, things kind of moved slow for you guys 'cause she had children and she had been divorced and she, you know, didn't want to introduce someone new into their lives until she was sure that, you know, you might be around for a while. So, yeah, what were your—what was that experience like for you knowing that, you know, she had kids?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2051.0,2078.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Yeah. So, I do have a very clear memory. I was living in Astoria at the time, right across from Uncle George's, another great place that has, you know, drifted on. And she was here out in Queens Village. And so I would call. And I get home from work and I'd call. You know, sometimes the phone would ring and you didn't—I didn't know. You know, call again the phone would ring. Call again, she'd pick up and, \"Hey, where were ya?\" You know, she'd say, \"I was downstairs doing laundry,\" or, \"We had to go to Modell's. Joe needed soccer cleats for PE tomorrow,\" you know, like these things. And I had this image in my head like, okay, this woman is busy. You know, she has a life. So if I'm going to participate in her life, then I just want it to be a positive thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2078.0,2143.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Like I didn't want to monkey around. I didn't want to like bring somebody down, you know, with games or whatever. So I kind of got myself in a solid head space. And so that's what the, just this notion, I mean, we never really talked about the kids or anything like that. You know, it was never like that. I knew they were there and there was some time, I mean, I think we were both just seeing what our relationship felt like at its core. And then we had this wonderful moment at Madison Square Park at the playground where I—I was managing a restaurant over on 23rd. And I showed up one day before work and, at the park, and there was Kate and these two kids, you know, and they were five and nine at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2143.0,2205.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And, you know, was this introduction on a playground. And I decided, well, hey, we better have a race, you know, just to see who's fastest. And so we decided to run around the playground area there in the park. And I won, but only by a little bit, but I was happy that I won. Like I had to show the children, you know, on that level, like who was, you know, faster. And my longer legs really helped because—and so many years later, I don't remember if it was one of the boy's birthday, and so, you know, we would always go out to different restaurants. And—oh, no, it was my birthday. So on my birthday everyone was like, where do you want to go to dinner? Where do you want to go to dinner? And in—over the years, Shake Shack had been built in that park.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2205.0,2257.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: So I had this idea—but we hadn't gone. You remember, in the beginning it was the only one and there was a long line and stuff. And so I told the kids, I just told everyone, you know, we're going back to where it all began for my birthday. We're going back to where it all began. Nobody knew what I was talking about. Everybody was frustrated [laughs] and we went and had a drink and we walked down, what is that? Broadway? And then we walked over and I just brought everyone to the park, in the playground. And, you know, no one—I said, \"This is where it all began, and we better rerun this race just to see who's still the dominant force.\" And then it slowly came back to them like, \"Oh.\" And I was like, \"This is where we met. This is where you guys were born to me.\" I tell my friends, you know, my kids were born in the park, you know, that's where they came into my consciousness, fully.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2257.0,2312.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And so we ran a race. I'm not going to divulge who won the second race. [laughter] It's not for me to say. [laughter] Suffice to say, we had a wonderful dinner at Shake Shack that evening. And the loser picked up the tab. You know, that's just how it goes. Even though it was my birthday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2312.0,2336.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: That is a wonderful story. And that's so sweet that like you, for you, that was such a significant place. And without them even realizing it, you know, and you took them back there. Was there a moment where it dawned on them and they were like, \"Oh man, Scott, that's amazing. That's really sweet that you remember it that way.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2336.0,2356.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Yeah. We all, you know, and over the years, I think we've told little stories, you know, there was the first time for them where at some point, you know, they referred to me as dad. I remember calling some kind of a family meeting and saying like, okay, you know, I'm at work now. And I don't remember, honestly, you know, you can tell with me, you know, lots of time can go by. So I don't remember like when this was exactly, but I said, you know, I'm at work and I work from project to project. And so you're always sort of introducing yourself and things. And so I said, \"I'm just gonna start referring to you two as my children. Okay? These are, I'm going to talk about you as my sons. Um, you know, just as, as a thing, I hope that's okay.\" [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2356.0,2410.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: You know, whatever, they're eating dinner and, you know, so these were things that—and it's one of the things that I've always loved about our little family unit is I feel like our family unit has always been a conscious decision, you know, every day. I mean, Kate and I weren't married. Every day was a conscious decision. The first document that we ever signed together was Verizon Wireless, New Every Two, you know? So I feel like the Verizon Wireless family plan was our legal—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2410.0,2449.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: That's what she said too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2449.0,2451.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: [laughs] Yeah. That's our legal binding document. So we made the decision, you know, all the time through all the years. And so, somehow for us, you know, the wedding and the marriage was kind of a project that we—we didn't quite understand how we were going to do this project, but the mechanics and the connections and the love and the chemistry and the need and desire and the hopes and the dreams and everything that created the bond in the family, like that was there every day, getting stronger and stronger and stronger.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2451.0,2502.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: This is such a beautiful story. Okay, so she told me about the proposal, the story of the proposal in 2013 about going down to the beach and she had been working the night shift and she was sleeping all day and you drag her down to the beach one evening. Will you tell me your side of that story?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2502.0,2526.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Yes. My side of that story was I had to get my head around a lot of things. And I have two brothers, one of which is married and he and his wife have my nephew Owen, and my other brother, Daniel, was supposed to get married to his boyfriend, Duane, this summer. And, you know, because of things, they had, they had canceled. They were going to get married in Chicago. But so in communicating with both of them, just to kind of get my head around this whole thing with Kate and I at certain points, you know, there's this concept of the ring. And, you know, there's so much of this city, Queens in specific, but the city in general, that is Kate and I and our family, you know? And so I came to uncover myself that I wanted a ring from Tiffany's. I wanted that connection. I wanted to be able to produce that. So my brothers helped me through that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2526.0,2596.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And then, so I went and, and well, we went in there, you know, there was conversation and stuff and, and people at Tiffany's of course are wonderful. They know what they're doing. And so they can help a fumbling potential groom through this process. So I had this ring and it was in this box, but that was it. That's my, that was my plan. And then we had a long weekend in Puerto Rico. So I just had the ring in my pocket this whole time, walking around like, oh, we're looking at these nice places. When we got there, I had ordered champagne and some roses, and when the gentleman took us to our room and he opened the door and he said, \"Congratulations,\" [laughs] he thought we were married.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2596.0,2649.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And Kate had no idea other than—you know, we had never really done this, but of course every, all our friends, you know, they go, it's cold and so they go to the nice warm weather, so we did. And he says, \"Congratulations!\" I was like, \"I don't know. He must have thought we were married, or something crazy. I don't know.\" And there was this champagne and flowers and walking around, we're looking, and I'm like, oh gosh, I really, I don't know. I could never find a place, you know? So Kate was asleep. I had scouted out the beach. I had seen where the sun was going to set and I kind of set our chairs there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2649.0,2689.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And there was a guy who had been drinking all day. He would, every once in a while, he'd be, he'd stand up and he'd pull a sock out of this—I don't know why it was in a sock—and he'd reach into this sock and pull out a beer and then just open a beer and just stand there. And I was like, you know, this guy, he's [unclear] and I moved. So the sun was setting over here and I moved us a little because the guy and his sock. Kate came down and I drew a big heart. And then, and then I knelt down and I said, \"I have a question.\" No. How did it go? I said, \"Will you—\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2689.0,2734.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: You said, \"I have a question for you,\" and I said, \"Yes?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2734.0,2734.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: No, I said, \"Will you answer this—\", how did it go? \"I have a question for you.\" \"Yes?\" \"Will you open this box?\" Will you open this box? \"Of course.\" You know, and then that was the ring. \"Will you marry me?\" \"Of course.\" You know, it was wonderful. And then these, there was a family, it was wonderful and it was great. And it was something that I wanted for Kate, you know? I mean the time thing, I don't know, people always talk about the time thing, 20 years, whatever. I don't know why that's not important to me, but I wanted Kate to have these things. I didn't want it to be like, \"Oh, we were gonna get engaged, but he didn't have a ring\" or, you know, I didn't want there to be any kind of thing. So we went to this wonderful place. It was a beautiful beach, champagne, and it was just gorgeous and—yeah, it was wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2734.0,2788.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: So, she, Kate also told me about your initial wedding plans. You kind of, even that was, you know, slow developing, but eventually you make this plan for 2018. And then I didn't have any idea about this part of the story, obviously, before I reached out to you guys, or before we talked today, but Kate told me that she was diagnosed with cancer. So can you tell me what that was like for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2788.0,2826.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Well, you know, that was a whole lot of things. That was—so at that time we were living together in Bayside and we had finally gotten our heads around like, okay, this is how we're going to do the wedding. We're going to just have this—we just really felt like it was important for, you know, we kept calling just saying the mothers, you know, 'cause her father had unfortunately passed away. I never met her dad, which is something that I always wonder about, but—so we decided our nuclear families were going to be there and we were gonna do the City Hall thing, which I kind of really love because again, it's something that ties us to an important city, you know, to us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2826.0,2882.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And at the exact same time, we were also deciding that we had reached a point in our lives where we wanted to buy an apartment. We had been renting. Wanted to buy an apartment. And of course, you know, looking around in Bayside, everything was a million plus. So we started kind of working in concentric circles to see like, where could we afford something? And we wound up having to go all the way to New Haven, which was weird, but we found this beautiful condo in New Haven. And so like, so now everything's happening at once. Like the wedding is coming up and maybe now if we want this condo, we may actually be closing before the wedding, in which case, then we have to get hotels in the city. And so now it's kind of like, okay, this is probably why we didn't do this before, but we just kept at it and we kept going and going. And then, right after we had put this deposit down, you know, the whole story is Kate just came down one day and said, \"Do you feel this lump? Does it feel like a lump to you?\" And, you know, Kate had been a nurse for a long time and Kate's also the kind of person that, she always just shoots straight from the hip, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2882.0,2961.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And so like within my mind, I kind of knew even before she, as the question was coming out, like there was something that we had to deal with. And so that then started unfolding and once we found out the diagnosis, you know, that takes, that's a process, that takes a while, and we're taking these hesitant steps toward the condo, which now we've put money down on and now we're still getting everyone excited about the wedding and all these things are happening. And then we take a tour of, you know, we go have a meeting with the oncologist and at the end of the meeting, the oncologist assistant says, \"Do you want to see where chemotherapy happens?\" And I'm kind of like, yeah, [I] don't really, but you know, like, yeah, let's—and she opens these double doors and there's like this giant, it's like as big as an airport. And then she's like, this is A, there's B and C. You know, so sometimes you'd go—and I was just like, oh my goodness, like, this is so enormous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=2961.0,3032.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And we had these questions for the oncologists. Like, you know, everyone at that moment, in that moment, they surround you and they say, \"Don't let this change your life. Keep going. Keep moving forward.\" And we were like, \"Like moving to New Haven, moving forward?\" And they're like, \"Just do what you want,\" you know? So we got bound up in that. And then, but at some point we decided like, yeah, okay, we're not going to have the wedding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3032.0,3063.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And so, you know, that was kind of a boomerang thing that happened. That's how we went, we were—we had moved, I moved us to New Haven and then chemotherapy started. And then, you know, going back, so then we were going back and forth. And one time Kate was at home. I had to come into the city and I was in this two and a half hour traffic on 95 and I couldn't get to Kate. And we didn't know anybody, we didn't know anybody in the building. And, you know, we were talking on the phone as I'm in the car and I realized like, no one was closer to her than I was and I was still two hours away. And I just had this panic attack. And, you know, so that's how we wound up back in, in Queens Village.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3063.0,3112.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: I don't know how complicated you want this story to get, but right now we're living above her ex-husband [laughs] and his new wife and their daughter. I don't know how complicated this story is supposed to be, but this is where she was when I met her. In this—it's a three-story thing. She and the boys lived here, you know, her ex-husband. And then, and then po-po [phonetic], who passed away recently, grandma, Chinese grandma, lived in the, in the basement level, and she was very sweet and dear and important to the whole family. So we have a whole family, like when I say our family, you know, I'm not just talking about us. I mean, there's Tim and Teresa downstairs and Sarah, their daughter, who's [a] senior in high school. So this thing just goes on and on, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3112.0,3168.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: So, okay. Sorry. I'm sure you asked me a very simple question. So that's how we decided not to have the wedding in 2018. And we didn't have any idea what was going to happen. We're still, as far as I'm concerned, gathering ourselves up after that moment where Kate asked me if I felt a lump. Like, nothing, those reverberations haven't stopped yet, especially, you know, for her, and for all of us. And being back here in Queens, the boys are, were now more accessible. Like, look, when the oncologist tells you to do whatever, like, okay, but don't move to New Haven.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3168.0,3218.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: So how long were you in New Haven before you ended up coming back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3218.0,3223.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: About a month and a half.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3223.0,3225.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Wow. And you had bought that place, so you had to put it back on the market.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3225.0,3230.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: We—couple months, we got a couple renters. And now we're in the process of selling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3230.0,3241.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3241.0,3242.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And we're in a moment to moment thing. Someone from the West coast whose daughter is coming to go to Yale in the autumn. [laughs] Kate—you can tell who the storyteller is now in the family. So we're just in a moment by moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3242.0,3264.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: We're happy to be back in Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3264.0,3266.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: We're happy to be back in Queens. And hopefully Yale will open for their students. We've still got like eight days left to get this through. [laughs] Never a dull moment with us. So yeah, that's what's—that is all, all still happening, very alive and happening. And that's why we're back here in Queens. And there's been a lot of healing and a lot of growth. And it sounds strange to say that there's been a lot of healing when we've gone through this moment of the pandemic, you know, these moments, and Kate has been in the hospital through all that chaos that happened a few months ago, and we're still holding our breath and crossing our fingers that New York stays on the straight and narrow. And, yeah, so that's where we are now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3266.0,3327.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3327.0,3328.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Under the chuppah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3328.0,3329.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: So yeah, tell me, so that was wedding plan number one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3329.0,3336.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3336.0,3336.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Life plan number one. But just, you know, completely sidelined by illness the first time. And then you make another wedding plan, well, or no, you decide, I guess this year that you're going to do it again. So will you walk me through that from your perspective?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3336.0,3362.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Yeah. So coming in, coming out of 2019 was like, oh gosh, wow, 2019 was a crappy year, you know, like, [laughs] but we were healing a lot and we were getting back on our feet a bit and Kate was getting a regular schedule at, you know, at the hospital. And things, 2020, you know, came into being, January, February. And my brother and, you know, Daniel and Duane had announced that they were getting married this summer. And that was all very exciting. And, you know, I wasn't, this wasn't on the forefront of our minds. We were healing and we were trying to pick ourselves up and not only think about who were we when we were making those decisions, you know, in 2018 and what were we trying to decide, we were taking stock of the family and everything and what were we going to do next.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3362.0,3422.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And then March happened and the pandemic hit. And [pause] so that was, that was a lot of things fast because all of a sudden, like in a moment where I thought Kate and I were getting our feet back together, we were hearing about this big scary thing coming. And then it was like becoming really clear that Kate was going to have to go in and be a part of this thing. And that was shocking because there was so much that we didn't know. And, you know, so, but you know, the thing about Kate is she's a team player. She's a team person. She's—so she has a team of dear, dear, very talented people at the hospital. And she would not let them down, not only her other doctors and nurses, but the patients as well. These are people that she doesn't even know that she just cares about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3422.0,3491.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: So that was gonna go in that direction. And then I ran to storage—I have a whole bunch of filmmaking equipment—and I just thought maybe we wouldn't be able to go to storage. I didn't know in the beginning. So I grabbed my camera, I got some things, and I learned how to live stream from the house. So I right away started hosting a show to just—bringing us all together on Facebook. And it's a variety show. We know a lot of musicians, comedians, and so I ran that every day for a couple months. And then I went to Tuesday, Thursdays, and now tomorrow—because now I'm getting back to work a little bit. So, but all this was going on and then at some point in March, my brother Daniel and Duane said they're postponing their wedding. They're not—'cause we couldn't get to Chicago, you know, all this stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3491.0,3551.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And so March was very intense with the numbers spiking and, you know, the stories—Kate was coming back from the hospital—about, you know, refrigerator trucks, how this happened, you know, the mechanics of how people were dying alone. You know, I don't want to use the word alone because there were nurses there, there were doctors there, you know, people were watched out by their brothers and sisters, you know, humans, people were taking care, but they weren't with their families. And Kate's mom in North Carolina was kind of sequestered. She's in a home with many older folks. And my parents are in Evanston, Illinois, you know, and they were kind of sequestered in their condo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3551.0,3607.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And we're talking about like, for both, like how do you go to the grocery store? How do you, when do you—six o'clock the grocery store opens for the older people. I'm like, okay. And remember we were wiping—remember the guy had the video and he showed us all how to wipe? [shows emotion] So [pause] it was [pause] there was just a lot of disconnection. And for our family, and for us, we're people who are connected. And now we were in a situation where Kate would come home from the hospital, go through the garage, go straight into the laundry room, put her stuff right in the washing machine, robe, come up, shower. And in the beginning for that first month or so, we stayed away from each other. I moved into the office and—because we didn't know what the result of her being in the hospital was going to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3607.0,3684.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And then there was all this conversation about, you know, because she had gone through chemotherapy and everything. So we were just—and her management team and everybody cares, and they're smart people. These people in the hospitals are smart. And that's where a lot of the guidance to begin to get us through this came from. And so I remember thinking about connection a lot. I was doing my show and I was just thinking about connection and in one conversation that Kate and I had, because we didn't know, we still don't know how this is all going to play out. But in talking about people in the hospital and their families not being able to be there, we had a conversation about staying connected, being connected, that we will always be connected.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3684.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: So [clears throat] as that started to kind of calm down, you know, I realized that at some point you have to turn things around and really start nurturing the blessings. And so I had this stronger understanding of how to do exactly what we're doing, Zooming, you know, and Zoom, and I put it out on Facebook and whatnot and so forth. And so the greatest blessing that I really felt was that we had this family, you know, that was iron clad. I mean, we, you know, downstairs, Tim started baking bread and then he would bake loaves and then he would like put them in the car. I don't even know how—I didn't go 'cause I was still doing my show. And then he would like take food or he would make his big feijoada and put it in to-go things. And then he would drive over to the kids in Astoria and open the trunk of the car and then the kids would come get their food and wipe it down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3750.0,3813.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: I mean, we were figuring things out, you know? And then I realized that in our—well, we had these rings. We have these rings, you know, and they weren't being used and, you know, for 2018. And so I started to become very curious about how we could—what our greatest form of connection was. And I realized that we still had this amazing celebration that we were, you know, entitled to and that we could create and share.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3813.0,3856.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: So then, you know, just like anything, it's a little bit of Googling and \"Oh, look, New York is doing this thing.\" Like, \"Oh, we can sign up for this.\" And, \"Oh, it's a Zoom.\" We had the most bizarre Zoom with the woman from City Hall. She just appeared in this white—she had, you know how you change your background? She had just this white—she was like a floating head. It was like something from [crosstalk] and it was like something from Star Trek. And then like, we were getting authorization from the great orb that joined together. And so when that was happening, I was like, \"Oh, this is awesome. Like this is going to be great.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3856.0,3898.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And then it proceeded as I imagine most weddings really do, but I thought it was going to be this kind of pared back, just almost like exactly what we're doing right now, but there would be some more people. And I had a friend that I had officiated her wedding with, and we had opened the [unclear] we started with a gong, and we made holy this space. And so I just tapped her, she's a wonderful friend, and said, \"Hey, get yourself officiate because we want you to marry us.\" And then we found these Wedfully people and they're awesome. And they were like, \"Oh no, we're going to switch and we'll do this.\" And I was like, \"Oh, multiple cameras.\" And they're like, \"We love it.\" And like camera for the glass, just for the foot? \"We love it.\" And you know, they had these ideas and they were like, I was like, well, what's it going to be like? And they're like, \"Well, do you have a flower person? We're gonna, you know, their dad can like do this.\" And it's like, oh, I was like, you know, they were like, unapologetic, this is a wedding. This is your wedding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3898.0,3963.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: At one point just before we went live, the girl, Colby is her name, was like, Kate, I—do you want a shot of your full wedding dress? Like, are we going to see the top to bottom? And you know, that wasn't important to Kate, but like, they're unapologetic. This is your wedding. And it's going to be just like, you could just be anywhere, you know? They had started, they were doing, they were in the real world doing weddings. They were like, if you had family that was in Switzerland and couldn't make it, they would Zoom, you know? So they were just this little thing that all of a sudden became, like she had four weddings on a weekend, you know, we're emailing and, you know, whatever. They're awesome. They're totally switched on and totally cool. So it became a project for us and then the little drips we put out there, people just responded like, \"Oh, you're having a wedding? We love that.\" Because it's something I think we, we connect with. And people, they've known us for 20 years. They've either been like—most, a lot of people were like, \"You guys aren't married already?\" So that's how we got into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=3963.0,4030.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay. So will you clarify for me, so the Project Cupid floating orb lady, was she like present at the ceremony or was that a separate thing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4030.0,4041.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: No, that was, you know, first you go to the city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4041.0,4046.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: [unclear]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4046.0,4046.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Yeah. You go to Project Cupid. So you have to, that's your, kind of your bonafide, your city, you know, they have to make sure, I don't know what—everyone's legally divorced or not married or your blood types match or don't match. They actually, there's no blood type.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4046.0,4061.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4061.0,4061.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: No, didn't they ask for blood type?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4061.0,4064.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate O'Connell: No!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4064.0,4064.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: They didn't ask for blood type? Make sure we're not brother and sister? I don't know what they wanted to know, but it's the city thing. It's an official thing. And [unclear] that's part of the wedding to me, that is the marriage to me, it's a contract with our community, with our society. We'll get our wheat in on time, make sure the group lives through the winter, you know, and so that's what it is. So she asked us these questions, she filled out some forms, we PDF'd everything, you know? So yeah, that was part of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4064.0,4106.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: So will you describe—you told me that there was like a white background and maybe she, like, you know—was that some effort at like festivity, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4106.0,4119.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: No. 'Cause, you know, it wasn't, I, you know, I don't [unclear].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4119.0,4127.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Uh oh, hold on. You're breaking up just a little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4127.0,4132.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Okay. Am I back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4132.0,4135.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: You're back. And it seems like you're back in a good way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4135.0,4138.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Yeah. Good. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4138.0,4139.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4139.0,4139.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: So I put it on this little hotspot. Okay. Sorry. So the lady from City Hall, I don't know if this was her regular job, you know, back in the day when you used to go there. There are—it's one of the things about living in Queens. There's more different races and nationalities living in Queens than anywhere else on the planet. And so this person from City Hall, I don't know if that was what she always did or, Project Cupid, they enlisted more new people just to be online. So, no, the white background, I have no idea what it was. It was like an architectural thing. It was like if someone was wanting to show you what a new living room but it was all white in an architectural phase was going to look like, and then her head was just kind of there. I think we have some picture—took some screenshots, 'cause you had to, really.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4139.0,4209.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Could you share those? 'Cause that would be so fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4209.0,4213.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: I'll look and see if we can find them. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4213.0,4216.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Okay. So yeah, like, was it, how long were you on the phone with this person? You know, how, yeah, how long was your appointment? Was it kind of just like dry asking you the questions, checking the boxes? Was there any like congratulations fanfare at the end of it or what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4216.0,4236.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: No, it was fairly dry. It was much more pleasurable than I imagined if it was run by the Department of Transportation, like if I was getting my license renewed. She was pleasant but neutral, I think is more the thing. Perfunctory. City, you know, it's city, which was wonderful, because that's what that step is. It's city paperwork. And then we got—then we had to wait and then you get approved. And then after you get approved, you have 60 days. And then we had the wedding and, you know, we still have to follow up, I think, on some paperwork. But, yeah, that was very interesting to go through that Project Cupid moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4236.0,4290.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: So I have a couple more questions. I know I've kept you past time. You guys both just have so many amazing stories. Is it okay if I ask you a couple more questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4290.0,4304.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Absolutely. Yeah. I'm sorry if I'm taking up too much of your time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4304.0,4307.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: No, it's okay. You're giving me a ton of great material to work with. So, okay, so, you know, Kate has told me the story of your wedding day and building the chuppah and having the ceremony. And I guess I want you to take me through that day from your perspective and what it felt like to you to do your ceremony that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4307.0,4338.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Well, the process of building up—we thought after the City Hall thing, we were just like, okay, we're going to have a Zoom and Tara was going to say some things, and we'll be married, you know? And people will say—and then we found the Wedfully people and they brought a shape and an organization to it. And then these possibilities of like breakout rooms and things. Then all of a sudden it like, oh, wait, this is very much a very real wedding. Kate started talking about flowers, then we had the handfasting thing we wanted to do. We wanted to make a video of that. And then the woman from Wedfully is saying, \"Give us a slide show, you know, so when people are logging on, we'll have a slide show.\" And I was like, great. How—you know, she's like, \"Yeah, make it 20 minutes long.\" I'm like, \"20 minutes of slides?\" [laughs] Thank God. This is why we waited 20 years, just so we could get that slide show done appropriately.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4338.0,4391.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And then we had to make music. And did we want to have a dance? And were we going to have cake cutting? I'm like, \"Cake cutting? Okay!\" Like, it all, all these options. And I think the experience of planning a wedding is like, okay, if you can't get through that together, that wedding wasn't meant to be. [laughs] Because even—we've worked on projects together, big projects, small projects. And, you know, it's—we each wanted some things to show, to represent to our community, you know? And then we were trying to figure out how it's all going to work digitally. So it brings you up to these trying moments, you know, where you have to compromise on things and all this stuff. So we had that wonderful experience of really putting this project together. And so, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4391.0,4448.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: So, yeah, the day itself, like, were you nervous to get married on Zoom?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4448.0,4453.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Anna's going to stop doing this after me. I can tell. She's like, okay, this is enough. [laughter] Yeah, sorry, cut to the chase. Right. Kate, I'm glad Kate went first. I was very nervous. I got up early, took a bike ride, meditated in the park under our maple tree where we had our handfasting, came back and right away got involved in tech rehearsal. Are the—I was mounting our phones 'cause on Zoom your phones are your cameras. It's brilliant, you know? And making sure that they're focused so it's like a little over the shoulder shot, you know, whatever. They're not as beautiful as imagined, but yeah, totally work. And so Kate's running around and then Colby's on and then she's got someone new because she's like, \"I can't get the slideshow to work.\" You know? So Colby's troubleshooting 'cause now we're all just on this giant Zoom with just the Wedfully people and us. And then our family starts popping in and everyone's got their poem to read or their toast to give. And just these wonderful, like, oh my God, it is really like, people are showing up and we're getting ready. And, \"Where are my shoes?\" You know, and all of this kind of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4453.0,4541.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And we had our places marked. The chuppah, I mean, really was gorgeous. Oh, Kate ran out that morning 'cause we couldn't get the flowers 'till that morning and she came back with these flowers and then Teresa came upstairs and helped us just like zip tie the flowers. And we had some other design ideas, and I was like, \"Wow, flowers.\" And then the night before Kate had come in with this cake, like a two-tiered cake, I was like, \"Oh my God.\" And the flowers were so gorgeous, like, I didn't expect any kind of thing like that. I thought we were going to have cupcakes or something. And so, you know, all of this is really just coming up and happening, and then the slideshow starts going, you know, and it's like, ah, the music. And so then we got into place. And I had found Gongs Unlimited on YouTube and I wrote them. I was like, \"Hey, you got some awesome gong videos. I'm getting married. Can I borrow one of these gongs?\" And we chose which gong we wanted. And so Tara came on, and we had talked and she had decorations from when we married her and she put those decorations up in her home, and I sent her a microphone so we could really hear her. And yeah, all the tech was ready, and then she was ready, and then Colby like counted it down and then boom, you're on!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4541.0,4630.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: So it was like being televised kind of, it was like—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4630.0,4634.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Well, yeah, it was, in a way. It had those—that's a layer of organization and communication. We would have had certain rituals and things like that if we had been in a church or a synagogue or a park, you know, where we would have had to put the chairs out so people could sit in the chairs and then we would have to turn three quarters so they could see us like this, or, you know, it's blocking and stuff. And so it just translates a little differently. Like if we were in a cafe or something, we're doing it this way, you know, now, this interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4634.0,4673.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: So, but what was really amazing was [shows emotion] to see [pause] the little boxes of, you know, all our family and all our friends. And then to stand up, I don't care electronically or otherwise, in front of your community and then to give our vows, which is to have this person, who 20-something years ago I just took every ounce of courage to kiss, now standing in front of everybody and saying these wonderful things and having an opportunity for me to say all these wonderful things about Kate to our community and our family and our kids. Oh God, you know, that's, I don't know what's more real than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4673.0,4750.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: And then, you know, participating in the rings, we had participated in the handfasting, and so, you know, all those symbols and societal connections. And so there are some parts that are very powerful, just as powerful, and then there are some parts, you know, that—ugh, that wasn't the right song. And, you know, they said they were just gonna make a Spotify playlist so we just sent the title of the song, but there's a 30, you know, there's a two minute version of that song and a 14 minute version that some DJ made and they picked that song and now we're waiting, you know, and now we're doing something silly and so, whatever, and you just move on. I'm sure it's the same thing in real wedding—in, you know, IRL [in real life] weddings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4750.0,4799.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Can confirm. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4799.0,4804.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Yeah. So you just roll with it. And then we did have a moment to see—but we don't know who was there. I'm sure in a real wedding too, you don't know, you can't look out and see every single face. And you just go through the day. And then we went, hopped into these little breakout rooms and it was wonderful. And then we went, you know, you see a lot of what's coming up in the future, I think, with how we're all communicating and going from Zoom to Zoom automatically, you know? And then, but then, you know, then it was like, zoomp! [laughs] With 90 pounds of cake. [laughs] So, let's eat cake! [laughs] And then, you know, but this is us, then Tim and Teresa comes over. And then, I call them my nieces and nephews, they call me uncle Scott, you know, they're actually Tim's niece's children. They live here in Queens, too. They got in their car and they drove over. They're like, \"We want cake!\" [laughs] And so we cut up some cake, and everyone's got masks on now, we're having cake talk, and then they took their cake. And then the kids came over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4804.0,4888.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: This restaurant near us had outdoor dining. We experienced that. So, whatever—I don't know, everything's not like it used to be, but the important things of connection and commitment and [unclear] are still the same. And the different expressions of it—the handfasting and what the people of Ireland used to do way back when and things, it's all just human beings expressing their desire to spend the next day with one another, every day. You know, that's what it was. And ours just happened to be on Zoom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4888.0,4944.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: That's really beautiful. So, last question. What are you taking away from this experience?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4944.0,4955.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Besides a wife? [laughs] You know, for me, I might say, just be open until the time is right. Like if I had to say something to someone else, or to myself, like it's okay to really stay open and—you'll know when the time is right. And then on the other side, I might say, just fucking do it. Like hurry up, [laughs] get married, don't wait! Meet someone, kiss them, and then marry them. [laughs] And just figure everything out after, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=4955.0,5010.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: Well, this has been so wonderful to talk to you and to Kate and hear your story. Thank you so much for sharing it with me. It's been seriously delightful. And thank you for giving me so much more of your time than I initially asked for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=5010.0,5025.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Thank you, Anna. I'm sorry if I went on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=5025.0,5027.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anna Williams: No, you're giving me so much to work with and it's great. It's been wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=5027.0,5032.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417/transcript/70277/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott Robinson: Thank you. And good luck with the project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/135678/file/250417#t=5032.0,766.40408"}]}]}]}