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My name is Obden Mondesir. I am the Outreach Archivist at Queens College. Today's date is August 18th, 2020. It's a Tuesday. I am with Donelle. I'm blanking on your last name. I'm so sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=3.0,23.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Bailey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=23.0,25.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Yes. Donelle Bailey. And Donelle, could you spell your name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=25.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Sure. My first name is D as in David, O, N as in Nancy, e l l e, uh, last name Bailey, B as in boy, a i l e y.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=30.0,42.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay, great. And do you mind telling me your age?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=42.0,52.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Sure. I am 31.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=52.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And do you agree to the terms and conditions outlined in the Queens Memory informed consent and copyright permission form that I shared with you over email?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=55.0,70.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=70.0,71.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: All right. And do you currently live in Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=71.0,74.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I live in Brooklyn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=74.0,77.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: What part of Brooklyn?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=77.0,79.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I believe over here it's called Bensonhurst.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=79.0,84.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Oh, okay. That's interesting. I recently watched a documentary involving Bensonhurst, so it was about Yusef Hawkins. He was killed in the early nineties, and the protest that came after that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=84.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=100.0,103.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: How long have you been in--? (crosstalk)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=103.0,105.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Oh, no, I was gonna say I've been living here for two years now. But I was residing in Queens prior to this for about six years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=105.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: What part of Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=120.0,122.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Jamaica.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=122.0,123.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Oh, okay. Yes. I grew up in Jamaica, Queens, so that's cool. And all right, so I know that you are originally from Antigua. So do you mind saying where you grew up in Antigua?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=123.0,145.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Sure. So I grew up in a village called Falmouth Village on the southeastern side of the island. And that's away from the city, so kind of like not really rural, but more like a suburban area, I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=145.0,169.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay. And could you tell me about the village in the 1980s? What was it like to grow up there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=169.0,186.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So I could definitely say about how it was like to grow up in the nineties. But growing up in that village, like it's a tight knit community. Majority of my family do reside in that village, so it does have that familial aspect to it. Kids were playing outdoors, playing basketball, watching tv. So it was, you know, like very community based. Everybody knew each other. Everybody grew up together. There were no real strangers growing up in the village, and everybody looked out for each other as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=186.0,232.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Mm-hmm. And do you mind telling me about your parents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=232.0,237.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Sure. So my dad grew up in that village. He was born and raised in that village. My mom was born and raised in a neighboring village. And then once they got married, she eventually moved into that village, and she's been there ever since. I believe she's been living there since like, the late seventies, early eighties.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=237.0,266.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And what was the name of the neighboring village that she lived in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=266.0,269.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: The neighboring village was called Liberta, L I B E R T A. That was actually the first village in the island to gain freedom. So it was named off of Liberty, so that's where it got the name from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=269.0,288.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Mm-hmm. And I guess, could you describe the house that you grew up in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=288.0,295.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Sure. So my dad had his own home, but before we moved into it, we grew up in the family home. My uncle and my grandfather also resided there. So this house, it had like about four bedrooms, bathroom. It wasn't a big house, made from what's called plywood. And then eventually we moved into my dad's own home that he built. And that's a three bedroom home made of concrete.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=295.0,338.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: All right. And I guess could you tell me about the demographics in the village that you grew up in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=338.0,348.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Sure. So the village is predominantly Black. The island itself is predominantly Black. There are expatriates who are Caucasian, but they do make up the minority, in the island as a whole. On the side of the island that I'm living on or I was living on, that is on the coastal area. So like back in the slavery days and stuff, that's one of the primary areas where the ships dock. So I do live in that area. So a lot of the expatriates do live in that area as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=348.0,393.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And tell me, what do you remember about attending school and did you attend school in that village?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=393.0,408.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So I attended, there were no schools specifically in that village. But there was a primary school in the neighboring village, like about a ten minute drive. So that is where I went from like the age of five through eleven. And then after that, I went to secondary school in the city. It's one of the top public schools. It's an all girls school. And both schools were also predominantly Black. I can't remember there being, if there were other ethnicities, it was probably East Indian related but it was primarily Black.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=408.0,465.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And yeah. What was it like, what do you remember? From going to elementary and secondary school in the nineties?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=465.0,484.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So education is very big in my family, so I just remember that everything I did was very academic based. I was very into the books, and striving to make sure that I was one of the top students. But other than academics, you know, it was just regular childhood, playing different games during recess. In terms of school, you did get disciplined, you know, so if you did something that you weren't supposed to, you would get the end with like a belt or like a ruler or something. But they were big on discipline as well. In secondary school, it was a little different. They weren't big on discipline as they were in the primary school level. Going to school in the city, that was one of the big accomplishments, because not a lot of people, especially in my village, went to school in the city. So that was a big accomplishment to be able to go to school in the city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=484.0,559.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And I don't think I heard the name of the city that you went to school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=559.0,564.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Oh, so it's actually the capital of the island, St. John's. And the name of the high school is Antigua Girls High.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=564.0,573.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: All right. And tell me about St. John's and Antigua Girls. Tell me about St. John's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=573.0,583.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So, St. John's. It's the capital, so it's a little busy. A lot of the cruise ships when they come in, that's where they dock. A lot of historical elements are in the city as well. One of the oldest churches in the island is there in the city, the museum, majority of the banks. So a lot of the errands that you ran or you had to do, were done in the city as well. And it was way busier than, you know, the outskirts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=583.0,625.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Hmm. And, what was it like when you were going to high school there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=625.0,637.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So I followed in my sister's footsteps. She also went to that high school. I did have a level of prestige going to that high school. As I mentioned, it's one of the top public schools. Not a lot of people went there. In my family, as I mentioned, academics are big. So I've had a few relatives that have attended that school. So it's sort of like a tradition for us to go to that school. As well, they are very, in terms of discipline, not in terms of like actual beatings, but they're very disciplined in appearance. So we had our uniforms, we wore uniforms. There were certain things that you couldn't wear with your uniforms or certain colors. It had to be within the requirements. So the uniform that we wore was navy blue. So for example, you couldn't wear like white hair accessories or red hair accessories. It had to be either navy blue or black. If you went against the rules, then, you know, you would get like a demerit or a detention or if it was excessive, you know, like suspension.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=637.0,725.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Mmm. What else do you remember about going to high school? You mentioned that your sister went before. Were there extracurricular activities that you reported?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=725.0,747.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So they're not, in terms of extracurricular activities, there was extracurricular activities in terms of like sports. So there were a few young ladies who played like netball, volleyball, but in terms of like, there was a Four H Club, I believe that's the extent. But in terms of like after school programs, there were none, or anything like that. But you did get options though, like if you were interested in business or like STEM related fields? There were courses that were reflective of that. I was more into business, so I did take more of the business classes. At the end of your five years, cause you start like around the age of like 11 or 12, and you normally graduate by 16. So there's like a regional exam that you take. And this is done across all the islands or majority of the islands in the Caribbean. It's called the CXC exam, which stands for Caribbean Examination Council. So everybody takes that. And then that kind of determines your college placement, which there is a two year college on the island as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=747.0,836.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Mm-hmm. And during the conversations that we had during the summer with the other SEEK counselors including Norka Blackman-Richards, you mentioned that when we were talking about like learning about Black history and history for Latinx folks that you read King Sugar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=836.0,867.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Wait, I'm sorry. Didn't hear that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=867.0,868.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: When we were talking about learning about history, there was the talks of the book King Sugar. So I guess you remember like, what was it like to learn about Black history while living in Antigua?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=868.0,884.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Oh, okay. So I didn't actually get into like, the history of the island until like, around secondary school. In primary school, a lot of the history about the island and the Caribbean, it was pretty much whitewashed. So in primary school we learned that Christopher Columbus came, he discovered the island, that the natives that were there before the Arawaks and the Caribs, like the Caribs were more like the Arawaks were friendly. You know, the Europeans came in and drove the natives out and that's how it was in primary school. In secondary school we got more of like a reality into the history of the island. We also had to learn not just history about Antigua, we also had to learn, you know, history of the other islands. We had to learn European history, a touch of European history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=884.0,951.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: And we also did like a touch of American history. Not a lot, but just enough to know like how everything was connected. There were some local heroes in Antigua, in terms of like in the slavery days. So there's this important figure, his name is King Klaas, so he was actually, his death was brought about by the wheel. Like they broke him on the wheel. So that's something that we learned in secondary school that wasn't even mentioned in primary school. Another big historical part of, you know, growing up in the islands is the art form Calypso. So it deals with social commentary, but it also includes like, you know, where we came from, how we came to be. So growing up I wasn't really into Calypso, but now that I got older, I'm able to appreciate it more and I actually do listen to it more often.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=951.0,1022.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Oh, alright. Cool. And I guess you also mentioned an educator. You mentioned your interest in Calypso, but you also mentioned having an educator named--he was a dance teacher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1022.0,1044.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: In secondary school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1044.0,1048.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: I think his name was Mr. Josiah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1048.0,1051.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Oh. So he was a history teacher. So he is actually one of the professors that piqued my interest in history. There was another history teacher as well, Ms. Black. She was actually one of the teachers that introduced us to help us develop like an appreciation for Calypso. Cause we did have to do a project where we had to report on like popular Calypsonians in the island. And as part of the presentation, we had to sing one of the songs. So that was something big for me because even though you hear the songs in passing, like to actually learn about the backgrounds of the Calypsonians and what their popular Calypso means, it makes you look at things differently.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1051.0,1109.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: How so?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1109.0,1112.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Like, for example, I think with me and my parents, it's created a bond. I was just having this conversation with my parents like maybe a week ago where there's this popular Calypso and it talked about like, it wasn't necessarily like a social commentary type Calypso, but it referenced things that happened in the past that I didn't know about. So it kind of piqued my interest to ask my parents since they grew up in that time. So they knew about it and we had like a good conversation. So, you know, it's kind of bridging that generational gap, I think. In my family, other than my parents, I'm probably one of the only siblings that really have an appreciation for Calypso. My brother and my sister, not so much. I do have an older brother who still lives in Antigua.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1112.0,1174.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: He's on the fence. I mean, he listens to it. I don't know how much he appreciates it, but my other two siblings, I know for sure that they're not as appreciative of it. And it makes you look at history differently. Growing up in the time that I did, like a lot of kids were more interested in B.E.T., like, \"Oh, I'm going home to watch, you know, like Cita's World and 106 \u0026 Park.\" And you never really heard anybody say like, \"Oh, I'm going home to listen to some Calypso,\" or \"I'm going home to talk to my family about, you know, like the history of the island. Like how did this come about?\" So I think it really gave me an appreciation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1174.0,1218.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: And even to this day, like learning new stuff makes me appreciate it more. So there's this popular area in the city, St. John's during Carnival. That's one of the places where like the festivities take place. They call it Carnival City, but that's actually one of the places where, you know, like slaves that were rebellious, like that's where they would take them to, you know, like execute them. So there's like, if you're not in tune with the history, you're just thinking like, \"Oh, this is just a space where they hold the carnival festivities. Cause you know, it's big enough to accommodate everyone.\" You're not looking at the connection as to how the past is relating to the present.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1218.0,1268.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Oh, okay. Okay. And after what I guess what would be the equivalent of high school here? And after you attended this school in St. John's. What happened after?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1268.0,1291.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So I ended up spending two years at the college there where I studied business. The college is located in the city, but kind of on the outskirts of everything else. Not on the outskirts of everything else. So it's in the city, but it's not like in the city where the high school was. So I did that for two years. And then after I graduated with my Associates there in business, I then came to the U.S. where I stayed with my sister for the first couple of years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1291.0,1336.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: What was the name of the school that you attended?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1336.0,1339.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So the college is called Antigua State College.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1339.0,1343.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay. And how did you like it? What do you remember from it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1343.0,1353.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: It was interesting. At the time that I attended, there was like a change where they started incorporating courses and just like the whole academic system to be reflective of the U.S. So classes had credits. We were doing letter grade. You needed so many credits to earn your degree, which that wasn't always the practice previously. So at right around the time I started, maybe like a year or two different, that's when they started making that transition to a more Americanized system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1353.0,1401.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: What was the grading system before?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1401.0,1404.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So typically, I'm not sure exactly what they used before, but in the island it was just like a raw score type thing. So based on the raw score, then that would determine if you're like first in the class, second in the class, third in the class. They never really explained what it was like before, but I just knew like when it started, that's when they started explaining like the letter grade system to us. Also, that's when you started paying, cause before you weren't paying, but now you were paying a fee, you were also purchasing your books. Similar to, you know, in the US every semester you're purchasing books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1404.0,1450.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: How did that make you feel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1450.0,1453.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: In the beginning I didn't really understand it as much. But then again, it was a new process. So I didn't really have anything to compare it to. Cause I never necessarily looked at, you know, like college being the same as high school. So it was just like a new process. Once again, my goal was just to always be the best in the class and making sure that I was getting good grades in the class. It was a bit of a reprieve not to have that class placement where you're like, \"Oh, I'm first in the class, I'm second in the class, I'm third in the class.\" But it was just, you know, like doing your best and getting the letter grade. I think it helped me though, when I moved here, and in taking college classes here, it was a culture shock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1453.0,1509.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Once I moved here, one of the major differences that I noticed is that the way we learned then, it's more of you like regurgitating information. So you'll learn in class, the sun is yellow, and then on the exam or quiz it will be like, what color is the sun? But then when I moved here, it was more of like a critical thinking process. So the question could be, well, the statement could be the sun is yellow, but then the question that follows why is the sun yellow? And then it kind of makes you think, which in all honesty, I never really got the concept until like, later on, like maybe closer towards graduation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1509.0,1563.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Hmm. And when did you move to the United States?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1563.0,1568.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I moved to the United States in July of 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1568.0,1575.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: So this was after attending the state college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1575.0,1581.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Yeah, I graduated State College in June, 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1581.0,1589.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And what were the reasons at the time that you decided to move to the United States?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1589.0,1596.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: My sister was living here. I followed a lot in my sister's footsteps. We attended the same primary school, the same secondary school. She did not attend State College, but once she moved here, she ended up attending Binghamton University. I followed in her footsteps and attended Binghamton as well. So I mean, I looked up to her a lot and I just wanted to follow in her footsteps. So that's one of the main reasons why.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1596.0,1646.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Oh, sorry. I was in on mute. So what do you remember about the move from Antigua to Queens? What were the first sites that you saw in the U.S.?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1646.0,1658.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So when I first moved here, I wasn't living in Queens right away. I was living in Binghamton for the first five years, but I just remember like coming through JFK. It was like a real culture shock for me. It was like watching people in the movies. So for example, I remember there were like a few Hasidic Jews in the airport and it was just like, oh my gosh, I've seen you on TV. So I wasn't really familiar with a lot of cultures. And as I mentioned, Antigua is primarily Black. So I didn't really have that experience interacting with a lot of cultures. Binghamton as well. It was very different. I have a very thick accent, so I was very self-conscious about the way I spoke cause my accent was so heavy that I felt like people wouldn't understand me. So I was very to myself. I didn't really talk a lot in class. But then it kind of creates a complex too because then I learned how to switch the accent on and off. But then when I do go home, it is kind of weird for me because to actually break out in the accent, it kind of throws me off sometimes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1658.0,1752.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Hmm. And describe Binghamton in like the late 2000s. Yeah, describe Binghamton for me at the time and your experience there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1752.0,1768.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: \u003claughs\u003e Binghamton is, as my sister used to reference it, and as I, you know, like later learned to reference it, Binghamton is the boonies. It's a very rural, there's not a lot going on. From my understanding, it was booming in like the sixties or seventies when they had like, the shoe factory and stuff. BAE Systems was also there and I think Lockheed Martin wasn't too far away, but Binghamton is, it's a very rural area. There's not a lot going on. The vibes on campus is very different from being off campus. So when you're on campus it's sort of like a mini New York City where you have like different cultures, different people, people from different backgrounds. When you're off campus, it's just basically like the same spaces. There is a great difference between being on campus and being off campus. And for me, due to financial aid issues, I wasn't able to dorm on campus, which that was the plan. So I ended up staying with my sister who had an apartment off campus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1768.0,1856.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: What were you studying at Binghamton?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1856.0,1858.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Business Management.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1858.0,1861.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay. All right. And I guess tell me what more about going to school in Binghamton. What was it like when you were able to, yeah. I guess, tell me more about Binghamton and I guess towards the end of you finishing and like, moving to Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1861.0,1883.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Okay. So my sister was the type of person that would say like, you know, you need to figure it out. So even though I had her, I still had to figure a lot of things out on my own. When it came to advising and registering for classes, I did that on my own. And then like, my mentality was sort of like a small fish in a big pond, so I wasn't very outgoing. I didn't participate in a lot of extracurricular activities, like groups, anything like that. I didn't really participate in class. I had a work study job, which is basically what I did. So other than taking classes and working, I didn't stay on campus around my junior year, cause when I transferred in, I transferred in as a sophomore. So around my junior year, my sister actually tried to encourage me to join the Caribbean Student Association, which I guess it was different for me cause a lot of the students who were a part of the group, they're second generation students, whereas I'm coming in as like first generation, born and raised, thick accent, everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1883.0,1963.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So in a sort of way, I kind of felt like, and that's just how my mentality was back then. It definitely changed now as I learned, but I kind of looked as, you know, like, oh, you're not really Caribbean, like, you don't know the history that I know. And I remember one time I was taking a class and one student referenced like cotton, the reference in Antigua and the other islands has always been sugarcane. Cuz that was one of the primary crops during slavery, sugarcane. So to hear them reference cotton and not sugarcane, it's like, yeah, you're not really Caribbean, are you? So that's kind of how I used to look at the students. Then I stayed, I attended meetings for like a semester and then after that I didn't attend. One of the hardest transitions for me was graduating college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=1963.0,2029.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I was basically in school for majority of my life. And then here I am done with schools, not really having a plan as to what I wanted to do. So, from 2010 to like about June, 2012, I like to call those my struggle years. So I did AmeriCorps for like a half a term and then I ended up working in a hospital. But like I said, the feel of actually being on campus and being off campus is completely different. So to be off campus full-time, like living off campus, working off campus, it was very different, very depressing, so to say. So I did have an aunt who lived in Queens and I kinda just made it my mission to move to the city. I ended up getting a job at a college and I felt like if I was able to fill a void that was there during, 2010, 2012 living in Binghamton.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2029.0,2102.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: I kind of wanna dial it back a little bit. What made you decide to join AmeriCorps?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2102.0,2113.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So once again, my sister used to do AmeriCorps, so she had the connection, so I decided to do it. And working in that space too, I literally went from like the opposite of, you know, Antigua being predominantly Black and working in that space to now working in a predominantly Caucasian space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2113.0,2141.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So, as a work study I was working in a predominantly Caucasian space. I remember one time I had braids in like extensions and one of the professors was so confused as to how I did my hair. I remember having one incident after I graduated, where I was at the laundry, and I got into it with this Caucasian dude and he was referencing \"you people\" and I'm like, \"who are you referencing as you people?\" So, and I've never experienced that before, so that was something different. I mean, doing AmeriCorps is, once again, it was primarily Caucasian. I remember I did have a fellow AmeriCorps who was Black, but unfortunately she ended up getting fired cuz she was butting heads with the site supervisor at the time. But it was an okay experience. It is something AmeriCorps itself, it's good, but if I had to do it in Binghamton again, I probably would not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2141.0,2217.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay. And I guess what was the work that you were doing as an AmeriCorps volunteer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2217.0,2229.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So I was working at, it was called Lord's Hope Dispensary. So basically for people who were eligible to receive Medicaid where they didn't work and didn't have insurance, but they needed like, prescription coverage. So it was like a branch of the hospital that provided people in the community with prescription coverage, but they didn't cover narcotics, so, you know, like if you went to the doctor and you needed like Tylenol or something like that and you couldn't afford it, then you'll be able to get it free there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2229.0,2275.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Mm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2275.0,2277.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: But there was an eligibility requirement though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2277.0,2281.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay. All right. And so, I mean, going back to your decision to move to Queens, you said you found a position at a college that lets you work in New York. What was the name of the college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2281.0,2300.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: It's the College of New Rochelle. They are closed now, so I believe they closed now like a year or two ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2300.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And what do you remember about moving to Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2310.0,2315.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I just remember the cultural aspect of it. So it was like having lived in Binghamton for five years, working in a predominantly Caucasian space. Now with that particular position I was in, it was working with predominantly African-American. So that kind of took me back to, you know, like how I was, how I grew up in Antigua, like being around my people, so to say. So I was very excited for the opportunity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2315.0,2350.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And you were in Jamaica Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2350.0,2353.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2353.0,2355.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And so this is in 2012?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2355.0,2358.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2358.0,2359.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: So could you tell me from 2012 working at New Rochelle, how did you find yourself working at SEEK?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2359.0,2371.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Okay, so the college in New Rochelle, I was actually working on the Brooklyn campus, which was in Restoration Plaza. There was no real growth after a while. So I wanted to get out, I was just applying to different jobs. And then I got an opportunity to work with the processing center with CUNY. So that was primarily admissions. However, like, my last semester at Binghamton, as a business major, I kind of realized that I didn't wanna do business anymore cuz it was very much cutthroat and I don't think that's reflective of my personality. So I wanted something unlike the people person side of it. So I was trying to decide, you know, like, what would I wanna see myself doing? And then I thought about my own experience in college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2371.0,2440.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So I knew I wanted to go into advising. So after leaving U A P C with CUNY, I ended up working with ASAP at Bronx Community College. By the time I started working there, I was living in Brooklyn. So the commute was very difficult for me. So I wanted to be somewhere closer. Working in admissions, you get to learn the different programs within CUNY and I thought like, you know, SEEK would be a good fit because a lot of the students are probably like me. Like they have the push the drive, but they don't have the resources or the means to navigate, you know, like the college experience or the college life. So I kind wanted to be, you know, that individual that would help them. And that's how I ended up at SEEK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2440.0,2503.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And what year did you find yourself at SEEK?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2503.0,2506.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I found myself at SEEK last year. Tomorrow is actually going to make a year since I've been with the SEEK program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2506.0,2515.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Oh, congratulations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2515.0,2516.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Thank you. \u003claugh\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2516.0,2519.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And I guess this is a good way to-- First I guess, tell me what it was like working at SEEK your first year before the pandemic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2519.0,2532.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I think I kinda underestimated the SEEK program. One thing I've learned is not everyone is like me. That was like a hard lesson. So like, I would do things in like the way I envisioned it, but then I kind of realized like, you know, I needed to rescale or, you know, like go back to the drawing board and rework what I did. But I have learned a lot since working with the program, I've been able to connect with my students and I continue to connect with the students. I've learned a lot, not only as a counselor, but on the administrative side of things. So I'm an advisor. I'm on various committees, so it kind of gives me like a well-rounded experience of what it's like to work in higher education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2532.0,2598.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Queens College as a whole, I think it kind of reminds me of Binghamton. So let's see. I think that's the first CUNY school. Well, I mean, like, even though I worked at U A P C, we were on the campus of Kingsboro. So I worked off of, this is my third campus technically. And, you know, in working in admissions and doing recruitment, you know, I've seen how it is with the different campuses. So I think, with Queens College, it reminds me a lot of Binghamton in the demographic makeup.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2598.0,2641.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And what do you remember working with the students?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2641.0,2648.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: What I remember working with the students, I think for me, it's just, for me, it's like seeing the students in the same position I was in when I started college. So a lot of the times I find myself referencing my own experience, in college as well. And some of my students, even within the short year working with them, I've seen them go on to do like big things. I've had students who already have had internships under their belt and I do try to encourage them to get that experience. Cause I never had that experience in college. So I just look at how my experience was and how I kind of ended up. And then I just try to interact with my students in that way so they have like an understanding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2648.0,2710.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: But, you know, I do like having conversations with them on like, you know, academic and personal level, like getting to know their personalities, and you know, like help working with them to develop, you know, their goals, in life. So it's been a good experience I think so far in working with students and working in higher education. This has been one of the most rewarding experiences. Cause like I said, it's not just only academics, but then you get to see your students as students, like you get to work with them and develop, their character and everything. So it's been a very good experience working with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2710.0,2758.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And I guess this kind of leads us to 2020. We do have a few minutes left, but could you tell me what do you remember about working at CUNY leading, or more specifically working at SEEK leading up to the lockdown that happened in the middle of March?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2758.0,2787.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I would say because I had that rapport with my students, you know, like my students didn't think twice about coming to me to like, ask questions like, what's happening? And for my students, and I understand like, you know, they're used to being on campus and having that face-to-face interaction. And now it's like you're restricted to your home. Some of the students took it a little harder than others. But I will say like in working with SEEK, they made sure that they were ahead of the ball. So like resources and not just resources in terms of, all right, this is what you could do with your classes. We are talking about resources to help them with like housing, to get food, like the food pantry and stuff. Like this is information they're passing out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2787.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: If, you know, like students are having disputes with their landlords and stuff, like, this is information the department is giving out. So it's not just, okay, this is what it is with your classes. You can always [unclear] but it's really having that relationship with the students to let them know like, I understand what's happening. You are not alone with this. Like, we are there to help you. And we've had different sessions just to make sure, you know, like students are engaged, like to let them know, even though you're not able to see me face to face, like I'm still there with you. So I've created like Zoom. So for some of my students, if you know, like they're not getting what they need from a telephone call, we could do Zoom where you can actually see me. I could still share my screen and show you, you know, like things that you need to do, things that you need to consider. But it was an adjustment and I've told my student it was not only an adjustment for them, but it was an adjustment for staff and faculty as well. Cuz with me, I've never really worked from home. And now it's like, all right, I have to work at home. So it's like, how do I go from working nine to five? And then after that, like still creating a space for myself where now I don't feel like I'm not getting, like I'm not feeling overwhelmed or I'm not feeling overwhelmed by the coronavirus, you know, like with what's going on outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2850.0,2960.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay. And that's really helpful. And how do you remember hearing that Queens College would be closing down for a period of time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2960.0,2982.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: From what I remember, so I can't remember if one of my students showed me the article and then I Googled it. But I just know there was like an article out saying that Governor Cuomo was gonna close the SUNY and CUNY schools. Cause I know like students were, you know, like, what's the word I'm looking for? Students were like protesting. Like they didn't wanna actually come on campus. So I remember there was an article, I remember I had mentioned it to one of my colleagues, but it wasn't like, we weren't really sure what was happening, if it was like, you know, like real or what was happening. And then I remember, you know, like we as a department, we were having discussions about, you know, if we have to work from home, let's start creating a plan as to, you know, what that would look like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=2982.0,3038.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Would you work? You know, like a few days on campus, a few days at home. And then it was, I believe that was like the Thursday or I believe it was like a Thursday or something. I can't remember the day. And then all of a sudden it was just like, all right, we are closing down. And then, well, the students weren't gonna be returning, but we were on campus and then we got like a notification via text and email. And then it was like, you don't have to report for work. So I think it was like a lot of confusion, cuz it's like, is this a personal day? Like, are we still working? Like, and this was just campus wise. We weren't really sure. And then after the information, you know, like really started to solidify, that's when it kind of sunk in. A lot of my students had questions too. They were like, you know, like, what's happening? Are we supposed to be on campus? Like, are you on campus? Can I stop by? So it was a confusing time, definitely I would say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251#t=3038.0,3115.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195251/transcript/44862/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Hmm. 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My name is Obden Mondesir and I am with Donelle Bailey who is a SEEK Counselor or a Counselor at SEEK. And we are continuing the interview that we started last year in regards to the SEEK Documentation Project, as well as the COVID-19 Queens Memory, Oral History Project. And I guess the question I wanted to ask you is how did you find yourself working at SEEK?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=0.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Okay. So my processes at SEEK, funny enough, it's kind of like one of those situations where the stars align. So I was working at CUNY Central in admissions, and I used to do presentations regarding, like the Opportunity Programs and stuff like that. So after I left CUNY Central working in admissions, I ended up at ASAP. However, I always wanted to work in the four year colleges and I knew a little bit about SEEK, but I didn't know a lot about SEEK. I just knew, like Queens College is a beautiful campus. I know, like, with the Opportunity Programs, they provide resources to students who may otherwise not be able to attend college. And just based off of my experiences in college, I think-- I thought that it would be a good fit for me. So initially I ended up at ASAP--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=41.0,97.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: [unclear] for?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=97.0,97.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Accelerated Studies and Associates Program. So it's usually at the two year colleges.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=97.0,107.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And what year were you at ASAP?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=107.0,109.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I was there for a year from 2018 to 2019.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=109.0,114.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=114.0,114.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Yeah. So I had applied for SEEK, did not get the job the first time, but persistence is key. So the following year, when I saw the position posted, then I said, you know what? This must be destiny. Let me apply again. I did, and I got the job. I got the position. When I first started, like I said, I didn't know a lot. I knew some things from what I did in admissions, but I didn't know a lot. So a lot about SEEK, I didn't actually learn until I started the position. And I must say it's a position like no other. I see my students in a different light just because, of even with their situation and their circumstances, how they still manage to persevere. So I do see them in a different light and I have like a fond respect for them and being able to handle, their personal challenges and still be able to balance schoolwork out. So, and it's also been one of the most-- in terms of like my professional growth, it's been one of the positions that's given me probably the most growth professionally. So it has been a very good experience on a personal level in terms of just being able to connect with my students, but as well as a professional level as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=114.0,208.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Can you give an example of how you are able to see your students in a different light?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=208.0,214.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Right. I mean, I have some students who are working full-time and they're going to school full-time. Just looking back, even as a grad student working full-time and, going to school part-time that was a lot for me. So to imagine my students doing that, that's a whole nother level of respect because I personally didn't think I could do it. But there are students out there who have been doing it. And, like I have students who they are after the opportunities for personal growth. I have one student in particular-- She is just amazing and she, every opportunity that comes her way, she goes for it. And sometimes I get concerned because I feel like she has too much on her plate, but so far she has been doing her thing. It hasn't been slowing her down. So I do have that respect for her. Cause once again, looking at my situation, just knowing how difficult it is to handle school as well as, like work and any other extracurricular activities, but my students are out there and they are doing it. So it does, let me look at them, in a different light, not just as, students going through the motions of college, but it's like, these students are really-- They're, going through situations and they're still managing to Excel and go above.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=214.0,304.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And I guess, a period that I wanted to go back to was the, the pandemic and how your work is affected and your relationship with the students. So, it is May 26th, 2021, and we are at a different part of the pandemic now. But if you could reminisce and tell me, what do you remember about the, about your work, how it changed in the beginning and what was it like working with the students?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=304.0,350.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So this pandemic in itself, it has been a curse and a blessing. And I stayed in a curse because in the same sense it, has been a curse in terms of how I'm interacting with students, but it also has been a blessing as well because it has allowed me to be more creative in the way I interact with my students. So initially when the pandemic happened, a lot of my students, they didn't feel as motivated. And they also felt like they lost that sense of connection because when we were on campus, if anything, if they had a quick question, they could just stop by the office and say like, you know, Hey, Ms. Bailey, I have a quick question. Whereas now with the pandemic, they don't have that face to face interaction. So everything is like emails or calls, but even through emails and calls that it still takes away the personal part of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=350.0,415.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So the first semester of the pandemic Spring 2020, that was very challenging, just trying to be able to make sure I'm communicating with my students. Making sure I'm reaching out to them, making sure that they're staying motivated, but not only that, just making sure that I'm in a good space as well, because it was overwhelming. So in order to make sure that my students were good, I had to make sure that I was good too. From that experience, I kind of learned, like what works and what doesn't work. So I started incorporating more Zoom. So at least students, even though we're not physically face-to-face, at least they could still see my face. So I started giving them the option of utilizing Zoom for their appointments. This was throughout the summer. And then as the fall started, I thought about doing virtual drop in and also group sessions via Zoom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=415.0,476.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So I would have group sessions for, so for some students, if they're not as motivated and scheduling appointments, cause sometimes, it's a short process, but, even to just say like, I have a quick question, I need to schedule an appointment, it can be deterring. So I started incorporating more virtual dropping hours where students could just drop in, like they would if we were on campus. But I also made a list of students who may have fallen back a little bit. Like if I haven't been hearing from them, I make sure that I reach out to them. I'll call them, I'll text them just to check in and see how everything is going. Because at least if they know like, Hey, Ms. Bailey is concerned, like she's checking in, then that may help motivate them more to be like, all right, I know somebody is on my side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=476.0,529.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So if anything happens, if I need help, I know who I could turn to. So it was just a matter of being, like creative. And if I needed to get like information to the majority of my students, I would have like group sessions where I would have them come. If they have questions, we'll go over like topics just to make sure that they're on track with everything. So the pandemic was a curse in terms of, I lost that, that physical, like personal interaction, but then it's a blessing because it helped me to be more creative in reaching out with my students-- The fall was a little challenging as well because I had new incoming students who fortunately their only interaction with me has been virtual. So the connection, it, I had to try a little more to keep that connection with them since they, it's not like my previous students who, they know me. So the fall itself was a little challenging in that sense for incoming students and being able to build that rapport and keep it going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=529.0,606.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Hmm. Okay. And then I guess in regards to what was it like collaborating with staff and colleagues?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=606.0,618.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: That was a, that was a little challenging too because, when you're on campus you could just knock on your neighbor's door and say like, \"Hey, I need help with something\" or \"I have questions about something\" or, \"Hey, how you doing\"? But we did have regular check-in meetings where we, we got to see each other via Zoom. And then also, like we had a group chat going where we would check in. So after a while it still felt like we were still in the office because if I had any questions or concerns or anything, I could pick up the phone and call and I would still be able, it's not a matter of, oh my gosh, I haven't heard from you in days, but, if ever I needed to check in, or if anyone needed to check in, we could check in via text, we had meetings or, like a telephone call. So in the beginning it was a little weird and challenging, but as we progressed it became normal again, it was more normalized.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=618.0,679.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Hmm. And I guess, do you remember what it was-- the initials ways that you had to like work from home? What adjustments you had to make?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=679.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: It was a huge adjustment. I must admit at first I wasn't too excited or ecstatic about it because for the mere sense that I feel like, sometimes you have to separate work from home. Like your home is your Haven. So if you're having like a stressful day or a rough day at work, at least when you come home, you're able to unwind. So to mix the two at first, I wasn't too excited. And I felt like I had to work extra hard from home because it's like, I felt like I was always at the computer. At least when you're in the office, you could actually like get up and go somewhere or even just commuting from work to home. That's still like a separation of the two. So I felt at home in the beginning, I didn't have any real separation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=692.0,747.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Like I was on the computer all the time. And then for the times that I weren't, I wasn't on the computer, I was still sitting. So it was a little challenging at first, but then I had to build a routine. So during my lunch hours, I had to actually like, tell myself, you need to get up and do something other than just sitting in front of the computer or else it's going to feel like you're in front of the computer all the time. So eventually I got used to it and I actually don't mind working from home. You know, it turned out to be a good thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=747.0,787.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Earlier on you mentioned that like you have to make sure that you're taking care of yourself while-- so you can make sure you're able to check on the students. So what were some things that you did in regards to self care to help during the pandemic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=787.0,807.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I had to get up, like I had to get up because like I said, with just being in front of the computer all day, I was starting to lose that motivation. Cause it just felt like all day, every day I was just in front of the computer. So I had to learn to close the computer and I had to learn to get a-- I also had to learn. I had to learn new things like-- other than watching TV, what is it I could do. So I learned to try to exercise, I need to get back on track with that, but, even going outside for a bit, like even if it's walking to the store and back, or, like going into the kitchen, making something like cooking something new. So that was a way for me to relax my mind and just learning those different techniques and strategies. I was able to pass that onto my students because my students were feeling the same way too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=807.0,868.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: It was like, they felt like they were stuck in the house and, I had to, provide them with like different strategies they could use. So I even told them, I'm like, how about a virtual Zoom session or FaceTime session with your friends, start a blog. You know, even if it's a YouTube Channel, start a blog, a blog about the pandemic has been like, do a journal. So in trying different strategies, then they felt less overbearing with just being at home and doing schoolwork. But they were also able to incorporate those little bits and pieces to help it, help break things up, the redundancy, like help break it up. So, and that that's the same thing for me. Cause I had to figure out how not to make my routine so redundant and by that I was able to pass it onto them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=868.0,931.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And I guess with as time, like time move forward, like we, in this new semester, in the spring semester for 2021, there is the vaccine is like made available, I guess. So my first question is did you, did you receive the vaccine?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=931.0,958.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I did not receive the vaccine as yet. It is something I plan to do eventually. I think my, skepticism isn't that, the whole conspiracy of all they're tracking you or anything, I just feel like everything was done kind of quickly. So I, for me personally, I just want to make sure that there's no long-term effects to it. Of course I have been very careful in the sense of like, I, you could even say like, sometimes I'm a little for the lack of a better phrase, a little OCD. So when it comes to like washing hands, hand sanitizer, mask, I do make sure I stay on top of that and I do get tested as well. But it is something that I plan to do eventually, but in terms of, like the long-term effects, I just want to make sure that there, there is none. But it has been a concern for my students as well in terms of, will they be mandated to get the vaccine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=958.0,1026.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: So and is this a conversation that you have one-to-one or like usually in groups?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1026.0,1033.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: This is a conversation that I have had one-to-one cause some students, some of my students haven't gotten the vaccine and some are a little hesitant about it. And I feel like, I guess in a group setting, they can discuss the pros and cons if they so wish. But then I feel like also as a personal choice, I don't want anyone to feel like, their choice is minimized because this person chose to do this or this person chose not to do it. So I do have the conversation, one-on-one just see like, where, how they feel about it. And a lot of the times my students are the ones who, like bring it up, they'll be like, Ms. Bailey, \"do you think we\", and this was even before the announcement was made, they had the conversation, like, do you think we'll have to get the vaccine in order to go back to campus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1033.0,1092.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Interesting. And then I guess the other thing I would like to ask is like, what do you feel like has been the difference between this spring versus last spring?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1092.0,1109.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: It's been a huge difference, a huge huge huge difference. Last spring, everything happened abruptly. So the transition from us going in person to remote had like what three days. And it was an adjustment that some, and when I say some, I including, like faculty and staff that we weren't necessarily ready for. So throughout this semester, Spring 2020, it was a matter of figuring things out, like how do we do this? So it was like a lot of trial and error. I feel like with this semester, based on, that experience of the Spring 2020 and even Fall 2020, we were able to see like, all right, this works, this doesn't work. We can use this to substitute for how things were. So I feel like there is definitely a significant difference and for the better. In terms of Spring 2020 and Spring 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1109.0,1180.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay. And then I guess, how is it, like, have you noticed your neighborhood changing at all in regards to like activity and like when do you think you began noticing those changes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1180.0,1193.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: So at first it was very quiet. Like with everything being remote, no one in the beginning, no one was going outside cars and then were parking suspended as well. Like you would literally see cars parked in the same spot for like a month cause they weren't moving. So even the supermarket supermarkets were very empty. At least at the time, cause I used to go either early in the morning or I will go like later in the evening and it was very empty in the stores, even in the laundromat, like everything was just empty, TVs weren't on. It was just a different feel. I think maybe over the summer, last year you started to see like more activities. It was still on the quiet side, but started to see like people going out more a little bit. And that's when you started to see like, the supermarkets and stuff they started to, to get more people or maybe it's just like the times that I switched up. I think definitely.. I think definitely by the, by January, this year, it almost had that feel as it was pre pandemic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1193.0,1275.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Because the stores were still, the stores were definitely full minus Lysol, but there are Lysol, there is Lysol back on the shelves again. The laundromat, like you started seeing more people, even in the neighborhood, like you started seeing more people walking around, even though it was cold. Like you started seeing people walking around, like they were, some you will see with masks. Some you will see without, but definitely as of, like yesterday it almost has, has that feel of the pre pandemic, like there are kids riding their bikes, just like they were before playing. You know, people are in the parks, they're walking by. So it almost has that pre pandemic feel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1275.0,1334.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Oh, you're muted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1334.0,1337.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: [Unclear] the world, right? Has that changed at all? Have you been able to go out more, have you attended like an event-- like a social event where you saw more family or friends than you normally would have last year?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1337.0,1353.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Yeah, that has definitely changed. Because in the beginning I was not going anywhere. Like the only places I would go would literally be like home, the supermarket, the laundromat, and back home, that's it like no other events. I think the first time I actually went out to an event was in July of last year. And of course I had the mask on, I was, social distancing, anybody who was coming too close, I'm like, \"Nope, back up.\" And I think that's how I still am to this day because, if I have to go anywhere, of course I'm with my mask and, I'm that person in the corner trying to stay away from everyone. But I only go out if I have to. So if it's like a close family member or like friends, if they're having something, I will go. But if I know it's going to be like a lot of people, then I won't go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1353.0,1412.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I actually traveled to Virginia over the Christmas to see my brother and his family. So that was like, the first time. I actually traveled to Wyoming also in April, that was the first time being on a plane. And I was like, so super cautious. But then also nervous cause it's like the planes were packed. It was packed and I'm like, this is not good. Well, of course I had the mask, the shield, the Lysol, To go spray, the wipes.. everything. So I feel like that part of me, that part of the pandemic in terms of, like being super cautious, it will always be with me. So now, when I go out or anything, I always make sure I have hand sanitizer with me. If I ever have to travel, I'm definitely traveling with my Lysol To go spray and I'm spraying things I kind of was like that before though. But I think the pandemic really did heighten it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1412.0,1478.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And then I guess one thing I was thinking about regarding interacting with folks is-- oh, I guess one thing is what, like during the peak of the pandemic, like did you have any family members or friends that were affected with the virus or like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1478.0,1520.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I did yeah, someone that I was very close to, his mom had COVID he had it too, but the diagnosis was that-- he had the same symptoms of his mom, but for some reason they kept saying that he didn't have it cause he couldn't breathe. He had like a fever, he had all of that. So I think, yeah, that was the only person in terms of like my parents back in Antigua they were super cautious, I guess that's where I get it from. But they were fine. My sister was fine. My sister lives in New York. And my brother and his family in Virginia, they were fine. I have another brother who lives in Antigua as well. So yeah, I didn't know that many people personally, who were affected by it. And of course I had my students or family members of students, but in terms of my personal circle it was just, like that one individual and his mom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1520.0,1593.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: I guess regarding the students, did you have to like guide anyone through an experience like that where they had a family member or they themselves like had the virus and how to deal with it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1593.0,1613.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I've had students who had the virus, I've had students whose family members had the virus. I've had a student who unfortunately recently had a grandparent who died from the virus. So I definitely, and not just, like not just looking at it from a job standpoint, but as a human, I made sure I was there for my students. I made sure that in terms of, like their professors, because unfortunately, even though we're going through things personally, school doesn't stop, like there's still certain expectations and if, like there's no communication, then unfortunately students could get affected by it. So I made sure through the resources of the SEEK department that we were able to reach out to the professors just for them to give some type of leniency and understanding the situation I provided, like resources in terms of like counseling and stuff for my students, but definitely for the--on the human side of things, I did make sure that I was there for my students and let them know, like if you need to take a step back, if you need to talk, if anything, just let me know so that I could provide whatever resources necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1613.0,1714.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Yeah. And then I guess more with us being at a different moment in the pandemic, like, what are you looking forward to doing as a year continues?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1714.0,1736.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I think I've been so caught up in like the moment and what's happening right now that I haven't really had the opportunity to stop and think about what's to come. Of course I would love for things to return normal, like how they were pre pandemic. But in terms of, like what-- I honestly haven't thought that far cause, like on a personal level too, I'm thinking about what's my next step. So, hopefully going back to school again. That would be my next step, but in terms of the job and everything, I think I'm just taking it one step at a time, especially, you know, with the announcement and returning to campus and still being cautious. I think I'm still like caught up in that. So hopefully pretty soon I'm able to look past it and, get back into the swing of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1736.0,1803.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Yeah and I guess, like, could you tell me more about this announcement regarding returning to campus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1803.0,1810.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Yeah so I believe, who was it, Mayor de Blasio had first made the announcement about opening things back up on July 1st. So, with that-- the college did have to make adjustments in terms of course offerings and the mode in which, the courses were being offered. So, now we're seeing more hybrid courses compared to the fall and spring. They're still remote, like fully online courses, but, compared to the spring, definitely cause there were no hybrid or anything, but even to the fall, there's more hybrid courses. And then, with Governor Cuomo's announcement about, with the students and the mandatory vaccination I think it's I am concerned for my students once again, like looking outside of the job and just looking at that human aspect of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1810.0,1883.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: You know, like some students, they do have their vaccines and that's fine, but I'm also concerned about, for students who may not be taking the vaccine. Whether it's due to like personal or religious preferences and, like how is that going to affect them? So I am concerned about that. And you know, like just how it will affect my students in terms of the Fall Semester. Like, is this going to motivate them to be, like take classes or is it going to be a deterrent? Like, all right, if this is the case and I'm not ready for it, maybe I shouldn't be there this semester. So I think, that's what I'm trying to wrap my mind around. It's still early. So, things could change in terms of what was already announced, but, I am concerned about that for my students.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1883.0,1948.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Hmm. Okay. I guess another, I was thinking about was-- What, like so do you have a particular day when you might have to go back to the office at Queens College?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1948.0,1977.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Yeah. Yeah. We've already come up with a plan in terms of, like what our schedules would look like when we would start. We would start that schedule, like office policies and procedures. So yeah, we definitely have already discussed that and we are putting something in place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=1977.0,2003.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And then the-- with SEEK itself, has it been going through any like budgetary issues as of late?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=2003.0,2013.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: SEEK has been-- Just recently we actually had some of our gen leaders, generational leaders that were advocating for some of the budget cuts like that there were significant cuts. But the students, they were able to advocate and have those monies returned to SEEK. So we did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=2013.0,2037.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: And could you tell me more about the advocacy? How did that work out?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=2037.0,2041.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: They were signing petitions, they were making videos. They were getting other SEEK Students past and present. They were getting families, they were getting everyone involved in this. So it was a significant effort on their part. And I am proud of the students in terms of that, because, like in a time like this, and with having concerns, with family and everything else, right. They could have easily been like, yeah, it is what it is, but for the students to be able to step up and not just advocate, but also to be able to see positive results as of that advocacy that really speaks a lot about our SEEK Students. Like they really do care about the program and I'm very happy and proud that they were able to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=2041.0,2103.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Alright, great. I mean, it is frustrating to hear that there are more budget cuts are affecting the program, but the students, like you mentioned, are continuing the tradition of advocating for the continuation of SEEK [unclear] it's part of the tradition that has always existed, So--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=2103.0,2127.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: And it, that is the history of a SEEK, like even from day one, it was a fight for, for SEEK students and, it will always be a fight. So for them to stand tall on the history and be able to continue that advocacy even from day one, that really does speak volumes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=2127.0,2153.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Well, is there anything else that you wanted to mention in regards to what you remember in the last two years of you working at SEEK, which includes the pandemic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=2153.0,2170.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: I'll just say, and funny enough when I first started SEEK, so I started in August, 2019 and then, the pandemic happened like March 2020. So I will say, unfortunately my time at SEEK has been more of on the remote side than in the in-person side, but to see, SEEK being SEEK and doing the great things that they have done, I've never felt like an outsider. I've always felt, included in everything and I am proud to work at SEEK. Just seeing all the work that they've done being on top of everything, advocating for students all of that wonderful things. I think it really speaks volumes. So, you know--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=2170.0,2235.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: All right. So I'm gonna--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=2235.0,2239.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donelle Bailey: Show them appreciation as well as for the students who advocated with the budget cuts who advocated for those moneys. They'll be celebrated as well. And then we're having, like a virtual ceremony for graduate. So, it's good to see that we're still able to do something for our students, even though, it's virtual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=2239.0,2267.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252/transcript/44863/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obden Mondesir: Okay, great. Yeah. That's--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/98096/file/195252#t=2267.0,2271.56"}]}]}]}