{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/mg7fq9r36k/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Memories of Migration Episode 8: Visits"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/010/original/Aviary_QPLlogo_192x192.png?1578574261","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2019-0729 (released)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Natalie Milbrodt (Host)","Chun-Hee Kim (Interviewee)","Mary Twomey (Interviewee)","Christopher Boles (Interviewee)","Shavetta Gupta (Interviewee)","Richard Lee (Interviewer)","Eileen Sprague (Interviewer)","Pat McCluskey (Interviewer)","Nusaiba Ally (Interviewer)","Adriene Lara (Producer)","Elias Ravin (Composer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThis is the Queens Memory Podcast, a selection of personal histories from the borough of Queens in New York City. Our first season collects stories of migration. In this eighth episode, we're thinking about visits — receiving family, friends, and others as guests.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eFROM THE ARCHIVES: Storytellers whose oral histories we feature in this episode, with links to full interviews and timecode outlines\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"../../../r/jm23b5wj8b\"\u003eChun-hee Kim\u003c/a\u003e, interviewed by Richard Lee (2016)\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://digitalarchives.queenslibrary.org/vital/access/manager/Repository/aql:34389\"\u003eMary Twomey\u003c/a\u003e, interviewed by Eileen Sprague in the \u003ca href=\"http://www.qcirishstudies.org/new-page\"\u003eIrish in Queens Oral History Project\u003c/a\u003e (2015)\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"../../../r/gm81j97h60\"\u003eChristopher Boles\u003c/a\u003e, interviewed by Eileen Sprague and Sarah Covington as part of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.qcirishstudies.org/new-page\"\u003eIrish in Queens Oral History Project\u003c/a\u003e (2017)\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"../../../r/rf5k931h9v\"\u003eShavetta Gupta\u003c/a\u003e, interviewed by Nusaiba Ally (2014)\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eIN THE STACKS: References available through the Queens Public Library\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eResearch for this episode comes from the Queens Public Library stacks and databases, along with various online sources and Wikipedia articles.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eTo learn more about the three-decades long Troubles in Northern Ireland, we read \u003ca href=\"http://go.galegroup.com/ps/retrieve.do?tabID=T002\u0026amp;resultListType=RESULT_LIST\u0026amp;searchResultsType=SingleTab\u0026amp;searchType=AdvancedSearchForm\u0026amp;currentPosition=7\u0026amp;docId=GALE%7CA308294185\u0026amp;docType=Article\u0026amp;sort=Relevance\u0026amp;contentSegment=\u0026amp;prodId=AONE\u0026amp;contentSet=GALE%7CA308294185\u0026amp;searchId=R4\u0026amp;userGroupName=nysl_me_queensb\u0026amp;inPS=true\"\u003ethis article\u003c/a\u003e by Andrew Sanders that describes a history of the Troubles in Northern Ireland, and specifically Senator Edward Kennedy’s role in politics between the U.S., Northern Ireland, and Ireland. As a content note, please note that anti-Black slurs are quoted in that article. In \u003ca href=\"http://go.galegroup.com/ps/retrieve.do?tabID=T002\u0026amp;resultListType=RESULT_LIST\u0026amp;searchResultsType=SingleTab\u0026amp;searchType=AdvancedSearchForm\u0026amp;currentPosition=2\u0026amp;docId=GALE%7CA533408513\u0026amp;docType=Article\u0026amp;sort=Relevance\u0026amp;contentSegment=\u0026amp;prodId=AONE\u0026amp;contentSet=GALE%7CA533408513\u0026amp;searchId=R6\u0026amp;userGroupName=nysl_me_queensb\u0026amp;inPS=true\"\u003eanother article\u003c/a\u003e we referenced, Rosa Gilbert analyzes rent strikes in Northern Ireland in the 1970s, and their connection to both civil disobedience and armed struggle in the country during that time.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eREFERENCE DESK: Sources referenced in this episode from beyond the library\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eShavetta Gupta mentions her parents’ visits being in part due to renewal policies of their Green Cards. Pulling from the show notes from our second episode on Paperwork, find resources on immigrant rights, documentation worksheets, and more compiled by local organizations here:\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e●       \u003ca href=\"https://www.drumnyc.org/\"\u003eDesis Rising Up and Moving (DRUM)\u003c/a\u003e, based here in Queens, created Know Your Rights pamphlets for immigration raids and workers’ rights\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e●       To read guides on DACA, renewing Green Cards, and applying for citizenship, the Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund, another New York organization, designed an \u003ca href=\"https://www.aaldef.org/publications/immigrants-rights-and-post-9-11-civil-liberties/\"\u003eImmigration Rights webpage\u003c/a\u003e with many resources\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eGUIDING QUESTIONS: Origin points for discussion\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e●       Who has stayed with you as a guest, and who has hosted you?\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e●       What kinds of relationships do you have with them?\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eVoice narration, editing, and supervision by Natalie Milbrodt\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eProduction, writing, and research by Adriene Lara\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMusical composition by Elias Ravin\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eListen to the episode on \u003ca href=\"https://soundcloud.com/queens-public-library/memories-of-migration-episode-eight-visits\"\u003eSoundCloud\u003c/a\u003e, as well as any other platform you find your podcasts. Give us a like if you want, and comment to share your thoughts with us. Find more from \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/queensmemory\"\u003eQueens Memory at QueensMemory.org\u003c/a\u003e, on \u003ca href=\"http://facebook.com/queensmemory\"\u003eFacebook at Queens Memory\u003c/a\u003e, and on \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/queensmemory\"\u003eTwitter at @QueensMemory\u003c/a\u003e.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThis audio piece was produced by the Queens Memory Project and is available for use under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International Public License. For inquiries, please contact queensmemory@queenslibrary.org.\u003c/p\u003e"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThis is the Queens Memory Podcast, a selection of personal histories from the borough of Queens in New York City. Our first season collects stories of migration. In this eighth episode, we're thinking about visits \u0026mdash; receiving family, friends, and others as guests.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eFROM THE ARCHIVES: Storytellers whose oral histories we feature in this episode, with links to full interviews and timecode outlines\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"../../../r/jm23b5wj8b\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eChun-hee Kim\u003c/a\u003e, interviewed by Richard Lee (2016)\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://digitalarchives.queenslibrary.org/vital/access/manager/Repository/aql:34389\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eMary Twomey\u003c/a\u003e, interviewed by Eileen Sprague in the \u003ca href=\"http://www.qcirishstudies.org/new-page\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eIrish in Queens Oral History Project\u003c/a\u003e (2015)\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"../../../r/gm81j97h60\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eChristopher Boles\u003c/a\u003e, interviewed by Eileen Sprague and Sarah Covington as part of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.qcirishstudies.org/new-page\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eIrish in Queens Oral History Project\u003c/a\u003e (2017)\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"../../../r/rf5k931h9v\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eShavetta Gupta\u003c/a\u003e, interviewed by Nusaiba Ally (2014)\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eIN THE STACKS: References available through the Queens Public Library\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eResearch for this episode comes from the Queens Public Library stacks and databases, along with various online sources and Wikipedia articles.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eTo learn more about the three-decades long Troubles in Northern Ireland, we read \u003ca href=\"http://go.galegroup.com/ps/retrieve.do?tabID=T002\u0026amp;resultListType=RESULT_LIST\u0026amp;searchResultsType=SingleTab\u0026amp;searchType=AdvancedSearchForm\u0026amp;currentPosition=7\u0026amp;docId=GALE%7CA308294185\u0026amp;docType=Article\u0026amp;sort=Relevance\u0026amp;contentSegment=\u0026amp;prodId=AONE\u0026amp;contentSet=GALE%7CA308294185\u0026amp;searchId=R4\u0026amp;userGroupName=nysl_me_queensb\u0026amp;inPS=true\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003ethis article\u003c/a\u003e by Andrew Sanders that describes a history of the Troubles in Northern Ireland, and specifically Senator Edward Kennedy\u0026rsquo;s role in politics between the U.S., Northern Ireland, and Ireland. As a content note, please note that anti-Black slurs are quoted in that article. In \u003ca href=\"http://go.galegroup.com/ps/retrieve.do?tabID=T002\u0026amp;resultListType=RESULT_LIST\u0026amp;searchResultsType=SingleTab\u0026amp;searchType=AdvancedSearchForm\u0026amp;currentPosition=2\u0026amp;docId=GALE%7CA533408513\u0026amp;docType=Article\u0026amp;sort=Relevance\u0026amp;contentSegment=\u0026amp;prodId=AONE\u0026amp;contentSet=GALE%7CA533408513\u0026amp;searchId=R6\u0026amp;userGroupName=nysl_me_queensb\u0026amp;inPS=true\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eanother article\u003c/a\u003e we referenced, Rosa Gilbert analyzes rent strikes in Northern Ireland in the 1970s, and their connection to both civil disobedience and armed struggle in the country during that time.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eREFERENCE DESK: Sources referenced in this episode from beyond the library\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eShavetta Gupta mentions her parents\u0026rsquo; visits being in part due to renewal policies of their Green Cards. Pulling from the show notes from our second episode on Paperwork, find resources on immigrant rights, documentation worksheets, and more compiled by local organizations here:\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e●\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp; \u003ca href=\"https://www.drumnyc.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eDesis Rising Up and Moving (DRUM)\u003c/a\u003e, based here in Queens, created Know Your Rights pamphlets for immigration raids and workers\u0026rsquo; rights\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e●\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp; To read guides on DACA, renewing Green Cards, and applying for citizenship, the Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund, another New York organization, designed an \u003ca href=\"https://www.aaldef.org/publications/immigrants-rights-and-post-9-11-civil-liberties/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eImmigration Rights webpage\u003c/a\u003e with many resources\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eGUIDING QUESTIONS: Origin points for discussion\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e●\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp; Who has stayed with you as a guest, and who has hosted you?\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e●\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp; What kinds of relationships do you have with them?\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eVoice narration, editing, and supervision by Natalie Milbrodt\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eProduction, writing, and research by Adriene Lara\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMusical composition by Elias Ravin\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eListen to the episode on \u003ca href=\"https://soundcloud.com/queens-public-library/memories-of-migration-episode-eight-visits\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eSoundCloud\u003c/a\u003e, as well as any other platform you find your podcasts. Give us a like if you want, and comment to share your thoughts with us. Find more from \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/queensmemory\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eQueens Memory at QueensMemory.org\u003c/a\u003e, on \u003ca href=\"http://facebook.com/queensmemory\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eFacebook at Queens Memory\u003c/a\u003e, and on \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/queensmemory\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"\u003eTwitter at @QueensMemory\u003c/a\u003e.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThis audio piece was produced by the Queens Memory Project and is available for use under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International Public License. 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This podcast comes to you from the Queens Memory Project, based in Jamaica, Queens at the Queens Central Library. I'm Natalie Milbrodt, Director of Queens Memory, where we record and preserve contemporary history across the borough. We grow our archives by collecting oral histories, photos, and mementos shared with us by community members. Local volunteers, who train with Queens Memory staff, facilitate and record our oral history interviews.\n\nWe feature oral histories from our archives so we can reflect on and engage with the histories we listen to and tell one another. How do we carry each other’s stories? What shapes our personal and family histories? How did we get to the neighborhoods where we live? And where are we in relation to each other's histories?\n\nAs part of New York City, Queens has long been a point of entry to the United States. Thinking about the borough in this way, we searched through our archives to gather stories of migration for this first season of the Queens Memory Podcast. These stories cross continents and move through decades of the past century. We share these oral histories to reflect on the histories of this borough, of this country, and of ourselves.\n\n[BACKGROUND MUSIC CHANGES]\n\n[INTRODUCTORY AUDIO COLLAGE BEGINS]\n\nCHUN-HEE KIM: That time, you know - my mother and father, you know - stayed with us - like one - year\nMARY TWOMEY: My oldest sister was very involved in the Civil Rights movement of the Irish - I - became involved also - There was a program - that - children came out from the North - my whole family sponsored children at that time\nCHRISTOPHER BOLES: I came to New York - in July - for a week - to visit - my brother\nSHAVETTA GUPTA: My parents came - but they didn't like it here - they had to come back - otherwise they will lose their Green Card\n\n[PAUSE WITH MUSIC]\n\nNM: In this eighth episode, we're thinking about visits — receiving family, friends, and others as guests. In terms of legal procedures, visiting the U.S. requires paperwork, fees, and interviews to apply for visitor visas. Depending on national laws and an applicant's travel documentation and history, we learned in our research for this episode that the structure and length of these processes vary greatly. We also learned about laws that regulate visits to the U.S. These date back centuries to the Naturalization Law of 1802 that first established the requirement for all entry into the U.S. to be recorded by the federal government. In 2004 the U.S. government instituted the Visa Waiver Program, which deems citizens of certain countries eligible to travel to the U.S. without a visa. As of 2019, laws around entry into the country undergo ongoing shifts. In this episode, we'll hear stories about hosting visitors after migrating to Queens and of relationships formed and changed through these travels. While we listen, we can think about how we stay connected with each other as we move from place to place.\n\nLet’s listen.\n\n[BACKGROUND MUSIC FADES OUT]\n\nBODY\n\n[FIRST ORAL HISTORY BEGINS, with CHUN-HEE KIM]\n\nCHUN-HEE KIM: My oldest brother is a medical doctor in New York, so he invited us and we applied- after we applied, petition, we were waiting for five years. So, 1984 in August, I came to New York all by myself, left my two children, two girls. Older one is five, and younger one was four years. And my parents-in-law took care of them. So- and my husband came to New York, almost two month later, because I didn’t like to bother my sister-in-law and brother’s family so I came all by myself before, you know, I found our own apartment, home. Yeah.\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nRICHARD LEE, interviewer: Can you describe to me one of your first houses in Jackson Heights?\n\nCK: Oh, you know, the three-family house. So we rented, you know, the first, you know, one-bedroom apartment. Yeah.\n\nRL: And the girls slept, your daughters slept in one room?\n\nCK: Yeah, yeah. First, one bedroom and then, you know, a few years later we moved to, you know, the two-bedroom. Next door. Yeah.\n\nRL: [LAUGHS]\n\nCK: So we are Jackson Heights, you know, people. So when, you know, my parents, you know, visited us to see how we, you know, [TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: Unsure of a couple words here] handle it, that time, I didn’t know about the Queens Library. Everyday, I walk up, I had to just hurry up to go to work. I mean, you know, before I hired in the, by the Library, when I worked, you know, the boutique store. So, every morning, I pass by, you know, the Jackson Heights library but I never pay attention to that, you know, sign. So that time, my mother and father, you know, stayed with us like one year.\n\nRL: One year! That’s a very long time.\n\nCK: Yeah. That time, we didn't have a- we didn't bring a lot of books from Korea, and we could not afford to read or buy. So we rarely, you know, read books. So my father, all day long, he liked to read books, but we didn’t have books. And all day, he just, you know, read the, you know, Korean newspaper. Again, over again -\n\nRL \u0026 CK: [LAUGH TOGETHER]\n\nCK: - all day! If, you know, I knew- I knew about the Queens Library, I could go to library and borrow, you know, Korean books. He must be very happy. Everyday, he just read, again, again, again, again, again, you know! \n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nCK: So, you know, since then, you know, so I felt so bad for my father. If I knew, you know, earlier, you know- or, you know, he left and then we found, you know, the library.\n\n[BACKGROUND MUSIC BEGINS TO FADE IN]\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nSo I feel, you know, so, you know, sorry for him.\n\nRL: Did he, did they ever come back to visit?\n\nCK: No. They are very, kind of, very elderly.\n\nRL: Got it.\n\nCK: Yeah.\n\nNM: We just heard Chun-hee Kim reflect on memories of family visits and migrations in the U.S. and South Korea. Next, we'll hear Mary Twomey followed by Christopher Boles, who both tell stories of hosting visitors in Queens.\n\nBoth refer to political conditions in Ireland in the 1960s and 70s, the time period of these stories. Picking up from the history of Ireland in the 50s and 60s we touched on in episode three, we'll start from an era in Northern Ireland mentioned in these oral histories: the Troubles. The Troubles in Northern Ireland here refer to a distinct though connected political moment from the Troubles of Ireland decades prior. In the North, political uprisings in large part for a unified, socialist Irish republic were met with pro-British loyalism, enforced through sweeping state-imposed arrests and violent flash-points such as Bloody Sunday in 1972.\n\nVarious groups, activists, and organizers became prominent in these struggles, especially during the rise of the Northern Irish Civil Rights Movement. Mary Twomey names Bernadette Devlin McAliskey, who was active in the Movement and held positions in the Unity and Irish Republican Socialist political parties at the time. The Movement in Northern Ireland engaged strategies used in U.S. Civil Rights activism as well as Black American political organizing of the 1960s and 70s. In particular, Bernadette Devlin forged relationships with the Black Panther chapter in New York City. As Mary Twomey also discusses, Irish American support of the Northern Irish Civil Rights Movement was organized in part through organizations such as Northern Aid, or NORAID. Though less so than decades prior, NORAID remains active. Two decades after the implementation of a legal ceasefire through the Good Friday Agreement of 1998, the aftermath of the Troubles remains contentious.\n\nLet’s listen.\n\n[BACKGROUND MUSIC FADES OUT]\n\n[SECOND ORAL HISTORY BEGINS, with MARY TWOMEY]\n\nMARY TWOMEY: The night- okay, so -\n\n- I was going in the hospital, I had all my children cesarean, so I knew when I would be going in, so I was going in the next morning -\n\n- My husband and I, we'd go- we didn't go out to dinner a lot, but we went to dinner, you know -\n\n- and I think it was on the way home that... that night, we heard about Bloody Sunday.\n\nEILEEN SPRAGUE, interviewer: Mm.\n\nMT: And so, um, my sister, my older sister was very involved in the Civil Rights Movement of the Irish, you know, group. Like, she got very involved. So, um, once my little fella was eight or nine months and strong and healthy, I became involved in the, you know, in that movement also. Um, there was two big movements in that- well, Civil Rights wasn’t so big, uh, but the Northern Aid- there was Northern Aid- was, was big! And they were more the supporters of the IRA, and uh, [WHISPERS] I don’t know if I should say this, but they thought we were Communists. [LAUGHS] ‘Cause we were, like, for the non-violent, we were like behind Bernadette Devlin at the time. So, um- and there was a lot of, you know, songs from the North at that time. And, uh, and I got very involved in fundraising and that kind of thing. And, of course, my children helped, you know, with mailings and if we did any kind of protests and stuff, I took my children too. And um, and I used to teach 'em the songs! [LAUGHS] I still remember the words, but I would never, never sing it! Ehm, but my kids tease me a little about that once in a while now. Then, let me think, I was gonna tell you something else about that time… Oh! Then, um, there was a program that children came out from the North, so we, um, my whole family sponsored children at that time.\n\nES: Wonderful.\n\nMT: Yes. We took- and our friends, you know. I had a couple friends and they took two, we took two. And the two that my friends had- they were not Irish, my friends- they would not stay with them so we had four!\n\nES: Oh my gosh! How long did they stay with you for?\n\nMT: Um, maybe about a month? And, uh, eventually- that happened a couple a' years, and eventually their parents came too. Yeah. So, it was nice for us to meet. So we were very involved at that time with the people of the North.\n\n[THIRD ORAL HISTORY BEGINS, with CHRISTOPHER BOLES]\n\nEILEEN SPRAGUE, co-interviewer: Were you the first of your family to come?\n\nCHRISTOPHER BOLES: To America?\n\nES: Yeah.\n\nCB: No, my brother was here already in this country. My brother was here from 1949.\n\nES: Where was he living?\n\nCB: In New York.\n\nES: New York!\n\nCB: New York, yeah.\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nES: What was your first impression of New York?\n\nCB: ...not good! I came-\n\nPAT MCCLUSKEY, co-interviewer: [LAUGHS]\n\nCB: And I came to New York- first year I was in Canada, I came to New York in July for a week visit, to visit my brother and... it was hot. And the noise of the train, I said, \"How could anybody live in this country?\"\n\nES \u0026 PM: [LAUGHS]\n\nCB: And I was mad to get back to Canada. I was so happy going back to Toronto after my week!\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nES: How did your brother wind up in Ridgewood, at that time?\n\nCB: He, eh, knew a man called O’Gara who had a bar in Rockaway, probably in your time. [LAUGHS]\n\nES: [LAUGHS]\n\nCB: And, um, he used to work for him on the weekends and this O’Gara guy had a second bar in Ridgewood and he wanted to get rid of it and he sold it to my brother.\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nES: Did any of your other brothers come over?\n\nCB: Yes! A third brother came that very same year. That was 1956. He lived in Belfast, and he had five children, I believe, at the time. And, eh, you know, he began to worry about, about the- about the Troubles and everything like that.\n\nPM \u0026 ES: Mm.\n\nCB: So, he decided to come here. So, uh... he came and he stayed with me for a while and uh, he came in December that year, and uh, the following April, he got his wife and children over. So.\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nES: Did they come and stay, or did they ever go back?\n\nCB: They did. They never went back. They never went back. His wife, actually- he died a few years ago and his wife is still living!\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nBut, uh, in our later years, she says, \"Well, I never wanted to come to America.\"\n\nES: Mm.\n\nCB: My brother -\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\n- he wanted to come and, eh, he was only supposed to come to see what it was like -\n\n[BACKGROUND MUSIC BEGINS TO FADE IN]\n\n- when he came first, but then, stayed and, uh, [COUGHS] sent for them.\n\nNM: After hearing Christopher Boles share memories of brothers hosting each other after migrating to New York, we’ll listen to clips from an oral history with Shavetta Gupta, who shares memories of parents coming to visit. To give context, Shavetta Gupta mentions her parents traveling between India and the U.S. every year to retain their green cards, which grant what U.S. law refers to as “permanent resident status.” This status must be maintained with certain limitations, including a one-year limit to stays outside of the U.S. For further context of immigration documents in the U.S., hear more in our second episode on paperwork.\n\nLet’s listen closer.\n\n[BACKGROUND MUSIC FADES OUT]\n\n[FOURTH ORAL HISTORY BEGINS, with SHAVETTA GUPTA]\n\nSHAVETTA GUPTA: My parents -\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\n- came in 2008 too, but they didn’t like it here, they say, “We don’t want to live here.”\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nThey had a green card, so but they went back. At that time, son was only few months old, so after we came to this house and then they came again. So when they came again like in 2009 or '10, because, you know, they have to come every year. So, I don’t know, that time also, they came and I start working at the same time in 2009 or 2010 maybe, I don’t remember.\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nOne of my relatives, they recommend me and they interviewed and everything and they selected me. So it was just like next door to my house, you can say.\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nIt was going well, like two months I worked there, but suddenly my dad, he's -\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\n- he was like, depressed, so he say, \"I don't want to live here, no. I have to go back.\" And suddenly he booked tickets on his own [LAUGHS] calling India and doing everything! And, you know, the next day I have to tell my job that I have to quit because my parents are not with me and I can't leave my kids to babysitting.\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nNUSAIBA ALLY, interviewer: What was it about living in the U.S. that they didn’t like?\n\nSG: Because social life, I think everybody miss. Especially the older people, they need somebody to talk! You know? Because I'm not even home when I'm working. Whom they talk to? And when I- by the time I come back, kids are home to, and we can't talk, like, what can we talk? The- we miss our neighbors like, in back home. We sit outside in the streets and we talk to each other, we get to, you know, go to places, other people house or weddings, whatever it is, right? Here, we miss everything because we don’t have anybody we can go to their house! We can't! We just have to call first [LAUGHS] -\n\nNA: [LAUGHS]\n\n- before we go, right? And we don’t even know they will call us, especially on the weekends only, so what about the other five days?! Yeah, especially for older people, they miss those things. And people like my parents, they never watched TV before -\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nSG: - what can you watch, right? Movies or serial? My dad never watched TV. Oh my god, he has to watch TV here? That's a, like you can say, punishment. [LAUGHS] So that's why he was feeling depre- and he was trying to find a job too, you know. In that same way, they can be occupied and they can earn money. But, you know, since he’s not that young, so people want young people to have, and he can’t even speak English. That’s a big problem too. So he was trying to look for a job.\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nHe had bad experience maybe, like, you know, he started feeling depressed. When he get depressed so much that he say, you know, \"I will die here. If I stay here, I will die here.\" So he say, \"I don’t want to die here!\" [LAUGHS] So he went back, you know, after.\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nSo, but -\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\n- they had to come back in 2012, otherwise they will lose their green card, and in between, I was trying to gain work in a bank too. So in the time I get the job, at the same time, my parents had to come.\n\n[AUDIO CUT]\n\nSo that was hard for them, but now, because, you know, in the summer, they- they go outside. They go to park, and every day, they have to go to the park to talk to people, you know? And my kids like it too because they have to go to park too! They don't mind, you can take them for two hours, three hours. Because I don't take them that much, the kids. 'Cause I have other things to do too! So but now, they like it, because, you know, in the summer, they go to park. Even in the winter, like, now they have- they drop my son to school and they pick him up. Like, these things, they're-\n\n[BACKGROUND MUSIC BEGINS TO FADE IN]\n\n- they get occupied. And my father also, he found some friends, Asian friends with whom they can talk in their own language. So that's, now it's good. Now it’s comfortable there, they don’t feel like they’re a burden on me. Maybe, yeah, that’s their thinking!\n\nOUTRO\n\nNM: Thank you for listening with us on the Queens Memory Podcast.\n\nVisit our show notes blog at Queens Memory dot org. There, you’ll find full transcripts and written translations of this episode, and more to listen to from our archives. We’ve also added reading recommendations from Queens Public Library’s collections as well as resources from local community organizations. And, if you want your stories to join those you heard today and become part of our archives, head to Queens Memory dot org forward slash participate or to our show notes to find out more.\n\nI’d like to thank our producer Adriene Lara and our composer Elias Ravin. A warm thank you to Ro Garrido for providing fundamental collaboration and support, and to Richard Lee and Molly Schwartz for offering their guidance and wisdom. Thanks also to the Queens Public Library and the Institute of Museum and Library Services for hosting and funding this podcast. 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