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Courtesy of Jennie Sanchez.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eSummary of Full Interview\u003c/strong\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eJennie Sanchez (she/her) is a former president of the Gender, Love, and Sexuality Alliance (GLASA) at Queens College. After growing up in Queens and attending the High School of Art and Design in Manhattan, Jennie enrolled at Queens College in 2008. Jennie became involved in GLASA during her sophomore year while studying Fine Art and Psychology. She later became secretary, and then president of GLASA from 2012-2013.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eIn this interview, Jennie discusses the long-term impact that LGBTQ-affiliated groups led by students have on-campus, in the local community, and in the lives of its members. Touching on the shifting landscape for LGBTQ rights in the early 2010s during the fight for marriage equality in New York state and greater LGBTQ visibility in the media, Jennie describes the role GLASA played in building intersectional solidarity across various student groups and community stakeholders. Jennie delves into the day-to-day culture of GLASA, and the importance of safe, welcoming spaces for young people on a largely-commuter campus. 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This is Dani Stompor recording an oral history for Queens Memory Project and Queens College Special Collections and Archives. I'm joined by—can you share your name, pronouns if you'd like, your title, the day and time, and where we're recording?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1.0,21.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Sure. My name is Jennifer Marie Sanchez. My pronouns are she/her. It is currently April 2nd, 2024, 1:09 PM. And we're currently on Teams. Is that okay for location?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=21.0,39.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Yes. And then title can be alumni or it can be whatever, however you want to describe yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=39.0,48.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Oh, alumni is good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=48.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Great. Awesome. So I'm going to start us off by asking you just a sort of framing question to paint us a picture of the first time that you heard about GLASA [Gender, Love, and Sexuality Alliance] at Queens College. Do you remember where it was that you heard about it, what that sort of situation was like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=50.0,71.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: I, yeah, I think it was my second year. So I was part of my, we called it our GSA in high school, which is just a Gay-Straight Alliance, and I did that for most of high school. I remember starting that up, and it was probably my entire high school experience, was just being part of this GSA. And then I went to college and I spent my first year of college doing absolutely no college life. I went to college and then I went home and I probably still hung out with my same high school friends. And by my second year I realized I didn't like that that much anymore, so I decided to find something to do on campus. And Queens College is a commuter school, so it's really hard to find that. It's really hard to build something to do on campus. I just remembered looking at those giant—I hope one of these still have them. They would have these giant billboards in Powdermaker [Hall] and Kiely [Hall] full of all of the student posters. And then somewhere buried in there was a GLASA poster. So I was like, \"Okay, that was my community in high school. This maybe will be my community here in college.\" And I went and that was it. That was my remaining four years, I was in the GLASA room going from one of the first general interest meetings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=71.0,158.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: And what year would that be, your sophomore year? Do you remember?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=158.0,166.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: What year? My sophomore year. 2009.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=166.0,168.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Cool. So let's back up. How did you first arrive as a student at Queens College? And so in 2008?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=168.0,179.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: I was born and raised in Queens. I did go to high school at the High School of Art and Design in Manhattan. And although more than anything I wanted to go to art school, like upstate, or I wanted to go to SVA [School of Visual Arts], or wanted to do so many other things, I knew that I wouldn't be able to do that. I had a lot of family issues that kept me at home and kept me near home, and I needed to do something very affordable. Overall, I felt really fortunate being able to go to school. So I just went to Queens College because it was close and easy and something I could leave without having a bunch of student loans. That's how I ended up there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=179.0,226.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: So fair, so true. What art were you interested in pursuing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=226.0,235.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: I ended up doing my bachelor's in Fine Arts and Psychology. I did a lot of exploring in college. I left art, because in high school I did art, and then I left it for a long time and then I ended up coming right back to art. So that's what I did finally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=235.0,253.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Very cool. How did you start to get involved more and more with GLASA? So you mentioned that you saw this flyer, that you attended a group meeting, and how did things sort of spiral out from there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=253.0,271.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Gotcha. I was a member for two years. My first year I kind of just went to the meetings and hung out in the room downstairs. But after a while, because I was around, a lot of the e-board would ask and say, \"Hey, do you want to help with this? We could use help with something else. We know you do art and design. We need someone to help with flyers and do all other things. Do you want to be more involved?\" And as they just were like, \"Hey, these are ways you can help,\" I just kind of helped. And I found it fun. It was fun to make flyers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=271.0,311.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: It actually got me making flyers for almost all the clubs at the time. They would see the GLASA flyers and then another club would be like, \"Who made this flyer?\" Because that was my major. So I put a lot of work into those flyers and it would stand out on that billboard and some other club would be like, \"Well, can you make mine too?\" So I was making flyers for, I think five or six different clubs at one time. And then when I became a junior in 2011, the president [of GLASA] at the time was trying to reach out to see who would want to be part of e-board. And she convinced me that I would make a good fit. And at the time, I didn't think so. I was like, \"What? What are you talking about? I would not make a great e-board member.\" And then after a lot of people were like, \"No, I would really vote for you, you'd be great,\" I applied to be—I ran for secretary and I was voted secretary. And then the following year I ran for president, and then I was president for a year. But before then I would've been like, \"I would never be president of this club.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=311.0,380.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Do you remember who the president was that convinced you to run?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=380.0,384.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Yes. Debra. Lolai.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=384.0,388.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Can you spell the last name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=388.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Yes. L-O-L-A-I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=390.0,393.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Awesome. So you had mentioned that you were part of a GSA in high school at an art school in Manhattan, which I imagine might be a little bit different than an organization like GLASA at Queens College. So what was it like coming to a campus where GLASA was there? Did it feel different, unique from the GSA or did it feel familiar, or maybe what surprised you about GLASA?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=393.0,430.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Let's see. When I first went, it felt very familiar. What was nice about, well what was different about high school is you can't do, you don't have as much freedom in a high school GSA at all, right? It's all administrators running everything and we're just kind of like students hanging out there. But the administrators were great. We learned a lot about LGBTQ history and different ways we could get involved in the community. We were at this, we were very connected with the Center [the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual \u0026 Transgender Community Center in Manhattan]. It was not too far away. And we did a lot of volunteer work at the door. But when I went to Queens College, it was nice to now see that students were the ones kind of leading the way and taking some of that knowledge that they had and doing everything themselves. And so it was nice to just be in a familiar place with a lot of people who had similar interests as I did. And interested in continuing doing those things. So it was kind of easy just to get involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=430.0,494.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: And you said something about, it sounded like you were talking about there being more autonomy. How did that manifest? Did it feel like you were designing events more specifically for yourselves? Or I guess, what did that autonomy mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=494.0,516.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Yeah, I do believe—So the Queens College community was a very different place than my high school. And Queens is very different. Flushing, Queens is very different from a lot of areas in Manhattan. So what we were able to do, which was great, and what was fantastic about the club and having that autonomy, is being able to develop events not just for ourselves and within our community, but then for the entire school campus. And to find really effective ways to just share our stories and our thoughts and our experiences and just make our presence on campus known and just be a source of a way for people to become educated about these kinds of things without it being forceful or uncomfortable in any way in shape or form. And so we had this great presence on campus where people knew about our club and learned a lot and very much respected our presence on campus and appreciated it. That led to a lot of really great things, whereas in years past and earlier years, that kind of relationship didn't exist and it took some time for that to be built. So it was really nice that we were able to just through events and our relationships with other communities, be able to build that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=516.0,602.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Yeah. How do you think that that evolved over time? Do you think it was those designing those events for more than just yourselves that did that? Was it being part of other groups as well?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=602.0,619.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Yeah, and from creating those events, but I think more importantly, and the president who was the president when I first became secretary—this is just a specific example that I think was very powerful—started developing these events around intersectionality. And most of our events combined multiple clubs at a time or multiple different organizations and involved multiple different kind of groups, multiple groups at the same time. And so I think it was just really cool for us to not just explore LGBTQ issues, but to just engage with other clubs and just be kind of part of campus as a whole and talk about all the ways that we're all kind of the same or related or all of our different things intersect. And so even though we were GLASA in our GLASA room, we were never just GLASA in our GLASA room, we were friends with—we had such good relationships with all the other clubs on that floor in the Student Union, and we were in and out of each other's rooms all the time. And all of our events were compiled with multiple clubs. All the clubs involved would be this big chunk at the bottom of the flyer and it was like, I think that's a powerful thing that not a lot of clubs get to have. It's just like we're a huge part of this campus as a whole. We're not just our own little thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=619.0,709.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: That's very cool. Do you remember who the president was when you were secretary?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=709.0,717.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Yes. His name was Jacques. I don't remember his last name. I could spell the first name—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=717.0,722.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Etienne?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=722.0,722.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Not the last name. Those events I think were huge, I can tell you now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=722.0,731.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Was it Jacques Etienne?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=731.0,733.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=733.0,734.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Cool. Awesome. Was that, in terms of thinking intersectionally, was that terminology that you were familiar with before then? Was that new for you at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=734.0,752.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: It was terminology I was familiar with just from being so heavily involved in the LGBTQ community, but I was very well aware that was terminology that we were familiar with because of the kind of involvement we had. And it was a perfect opportunity to spread that knowledge in a way that was less like, \"I'm just trying to educate you,\" but just expose others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=752.0,783.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Yeah, it sounds like it was a lot of just building fluency of just understanding what it means to be in space together. So you've mentioned that it sounds like a big part of your mentality has been partnership, has been developing relationships with other groups, that you yourself designed flyers for other groups. Do you remember what some of those other clubs that you were especially close with or involved with were, besides GLASA?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=783.0,821.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Yes. Sci-fi/Anime. I think that's what they're still called. I wonder if my last year they changed their name, but everyone still called them Sci-Fi/Anime. I'm not sure. There was a Haitian Alliance that we were very close with, the Hispanic/Latino Alliance at the time, we were very close with. What other clubs could be? I remember there was a South Asian club that we did a lot of events with as well. There was, it wasn't a club, but it was the Jewish religion organization on campus. They were also located on—we did a bunch of events with them as well. I'm trying to think. There's a whole big list. So those are probably the major contenders. We worked with these groups a whole bunch. I'll remember as we go, I could probably end up sending you a whole list, but I'm just sitting here thinking \"What?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=821.0,895.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Yeah, please do. What do you think it was about GLASA that set yourselves up to be able to build those relationships with all those people, that allowed the group to be that sort of malleable and ready to partner?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=895.0,922.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: First, I think we were lucky to have the kind of club culture that we had at the time, which is very kind of open and comfortable and safe, and we communicated with each other very well and we were really welcoming. So a lot of other clubs just kind of saw what we were doing and enjoyed spending time with us and then found their way, spending time with us and wanted be part of it. And our e-boards were always people who were just ready to help out with other events and be part of what other clubs were doing and be very heavily involved on campus. So they had a lot of relationships that they built up. So it was just a lot of just being open and inviting and being involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=922.0,977.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: So your junior year, you become secretary and suddenly you're involved in the planning of events for GLASA. What was that sort of gear shift like for you to step into that leadership role? I know that you said before it was something that you were a bit more trepidatious of, but once you were there, what was that experience like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=977.0,1007.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: It was rewarding to help the events happen, be more involved on the campus that was a big part of my life for many years. It wasn't the easiest. It took a lot of time to learn the backend of how to get everything to actually be up and running. To learn how to balance meeting the needs of your club members and developing out events that are actually effective and do have meaning. And I learned a lot having to communicate with, having to juggle all the different things that you have to do with administration and communicating with administration. It's a great learning experience, I think, for anyone who—it helped prepare [me] from then on for being in the workplace and communicating with—it was great to learn how to plan out those things. It was also nice to be able to start thinking about coming up with new events based on knowing, you know, I was a club member. I know I have an idea of what we want and what we need. And being able to make changes where I thought they needed to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1007.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: You mentioned dealing with administration. Do you remember specific tasks or responsibilities or perhaps if you have any particular memories of what that process was like in your role really, what sort of interfacing were you doing with admin at that time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1080.0,1106.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: GLASA was one of the bigger clubs with the bigger budgets that did a lot. We were probably one of the top five. So as we continued to grow and do more and more, administration, I remember the biggest thing was [that] they had to learn. They had to start learning how to accommodate that. Because they wanted that. It looks great for Queens College. Queens College was also itself growing quite a bit at the time. So I remember there was a lot of moments where we had to help them navigate how it should look like to help us use our budget or help us reserve spaces or help us organize certain events and what kind of paperwork we need to fill out. So a lot of times things didn't always go the best, but we just had to communicate and fix it along the way. So I loved watching the admin grow and the processes improve.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1106.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: So I think that was huge and it went from being a confusing mess sometimes to being something that's really organized. And so it was kind of cool to see Queens College change and grow in that way as clubs grew and changed, especially GLASA. But it was just a lot of making sure you think about each and every single little tidbit of each event and then make sure which administrator to go to and what to tell them and then just continuously confirm and if anything's going to run wrong, just be prepared with—to be ready to improvise or have a second backup plan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1170.0,1218.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: So you started off as the secretary and then you decided to take on even more responsibility in that direction as president, which sounds very counterintuitive to the energy that you had originally felt. What do you think was the cause of that switch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1218.0,1240.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: My e-board were all seniors and a lot of the club were seniors at the time, and I remember they were all ready to go out the door and graduate. It was a really beautiful year because graduation was such a great place to go to. You were celebrating all these people that I just spent so many years with and I didn't realize that right before we were leaving, how many of the club members looked up to me now as one of those senior members who was keeping everything afloat and making everything happen. And I was the one they went to for so many different things and the next year I would be one of the few that were left over and they were seeing me already as a presidential or as a[n] e-board person. I wasn't even thinking about being, I didn't really think about if I were going to be part of the board again for my final year or what role I would take. But again, it was kind of like when we started thinking about who we were going to put on the list to run for each position, there were a bunch of people like, \"You would be the best person to take the position as president, would you please? Are you interested in running?\" And then I thought about it again for a while and I realized that's something I would really like to do. I would like to be part of e-board again and do this again and help keep the club running and going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1240.0,1329.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: It sounds like what you were saying before about Jacques being president, having this vision of GLASA working intersectionally, developing these relationships, when you stepped into the role of president yourself, either at the time or looking back on it now were there guiding lights or guiding aspirations or a vision for GLASA that you sought to put forward?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1329.0,1369.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: I remember thinking specifically that I had watched the presidents before me each brought something really special. They each had their own personality and they brought that towards the events. So I remember Deb Lolai was very heavy on involvement in the LGBTQ community and very active in the community and that's where all the events were geared. And then Jacques was very heavily interested in building those relationships on campus and that's what happened that year. And then Sam [Nathanson] was, I remember very interested in LGBTQ history, but there were a lot of really great things that I saw from each year and one of the first things I did was start pulling from some of those things I thought were really powerful that got lost because I'd been there for so long, I saw things disappear. So I pulled a couple things back initially and then from there kind of developed out a couple of other things on my own afterwards. I got comfortable pulling those things back and seeing what I thought was missing. And so I think I became just a conglomeration of presidents past and then finally ended in my own little world of maybe building more club community things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1369.0,1469.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Do you remember what some of the things that you were bringing back that you felt had fallen by the wayside? Just as some examples of what some of those might be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1469.0,1482.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Day of Broken Silence was one of the first big ones that I brought back. Those events were really powerful for me in high school and then we did them in college and I know there was just a lot of the members that never heard of it before, never. Or just a lot of things, they just had no idea what that was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1482.0,1505.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: For folks who are listening who might not know what that is, could you talk through what that event involved?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1505.0,1512.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Sorry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1512.0,1512.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Could you talk through what that event involved?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1512.0,1515.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Oh, sure. So that day is typically, it's a day of remembrance for people who may have been unable to express their identity as being LGBTQAI+. And so typically you're completely silent the entire day until you have a ceremony where you break the silence and then the way that each club or each group or each organization does that ceremony is different. And so the way that we did it was by telling stories, coming out stories or our experiences not being able to come out or whatever we'd like to tell in whatever format.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1515.0,1559.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Cool. To return to what you were talking about before, do any other things come to mind in terms of events or other details that you felt important to bring back into the club?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1559.0,1583.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Let's see. Maintaining other events like that, that were either powerful or fun community events, but that also spoke a little bit about LGBTQ history or activism. So another one that kind of fell by the wayside and we tried to bring back in its full—it was only a one year last[ing]—the LGBTQ Prom. It was an amazing idea when it first came out and I didn't want that to get lost in the last bit between, so that one we kind of tried to bring back and make more of—bring back as like a regular yearly activity that we did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1583.0,1651.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: What was the importance for you of the Prom? Why did that feel like that was an event that you wanted to make sure came back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1651.0,1661.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: When it was first created, it was created because of the series of stories on the news at the time of students not being able to go to prom. And the news had changed over the last couple of years of students going into prom regardless, or developing their own proms. [It was] in response to the stories that we were seeing on the news. It was nice to respond to it in our own way, and that was how we originally responded. Now it's almost like responding but in a different way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1661.0,1699.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Do you remember what the prom itself was like, what that event entailed when you were planning it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1699.0,1709.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: It's the most work and the most expensive but the most fun. It is really nice to end the year with something that's just like, \"Let's come together and have a great time with everyone on campus.\" It was something that we didn't just do. Almost every club came in and helped us plan it and helped us, was involved and also attended. So it was huge. The space got bigger and bigger and bigger every year that it happened. And it was just another one of the perfect balances between doing something that has a significant message for our community but is also something that we, it's a really nice enjoyable night. So a lot of people remember and have a great time and build a relationship there, and it's our last thing before we go through the summer and probably really don't see each other again until fall. So it's just a nice sendoff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1709.0,1775.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Yeah, very cool. As you look back on your time with GLASA, do you have memories either of when you were on the e-board or before when you were just a member of any other events that really stick out? I know that, so we've talked about the Prom, we've talked about the Day of Silence. There are other GLASA mainstays like the Safe Sex Pajama Party, but are there events that stick out to you that you really especially remember?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1775.0,1826.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Jacques developed a series of events that were combo events with different clubs. He had a name of the series, I can't remember, but I can find that and send it to you. But so it started out with just movie nights that had shared themes from both our club and whatever club we were pairing with at the time. These were clubs people never saw, we would've never known we were on the same campus with some clubs. We were like, \"Wow, I didn't even know this was a club on campus.\" But he found clubs that—he would find a club and say, \"Hey, I want to do an event with you. I don't know what it is, but we're doing something and this is just what we're doing.\" And that was powerful and it was interesting and it was fun. It was fun to go up to a club without an idea and then come up with an idea. So a lot of them were a series of movie nights where we'd watch a movie that had themes of both clubs and those were really cool and it was very different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1826.0,1895.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Do you remember, in addition to very cool events like that, do you remember spending much time in the club room itself outside of necessarily those larger events, the sort of general atmosphere of that room, what that was like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1895.0,1917.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Yeah. Yeah. I was in that room every day I was on campus, and at one point I was on campus every day. My schedule was awful. But yeah, I would be there all the time and we would do so many things in that room. We had tons of board games. We had a projector at one point, so we used to turn off all the lights and then just play stuff on the wall. We would just sit and talk. Whenever any new [Nintendo] Switch game came out, we were all there with our Switches and if someone didn't have a Switch, we'd pass Switches around. We did everything together and then we would sit there and we'd plan out things to do if we couldn't be on campus. Like, \"Oh, the campus is about to close and they're about to kick us out of this room,\" and we'd find somewhere else to be together. We spent so much time together. It was the only space on campus where you could just be there and be—college life. They didn't even have the dorms. They built the dorms I think my second or last year. So they didn't even have anything like that. So it was just nice to be able to have a place to hang out with your college friends and go college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1917.0,1991.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Were there regular spaces off campus that you remember going to with people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1991.0,1997.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Cubbyhole in Jackson Heights, Pieces in Manhattan, the College Green, I don't think it's called that anymore. Around the corner on Kissena? Yeah, for the most part. Those are probably our big places we went to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=1997.0,2019.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: So in the club room and now in the Queens College [Special Collections and] Archives, there were these journals. They were marble journals that the club kept. Do you—by the face that you're making it seems like you remember the journals. Could you tell me more about what they were?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2019.0,2042.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Those are adorable. I remember Deb Lolai or Alex Crisafi, that was the first president when I first joined.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2042.0,2055.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Could you spell that last name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2055.0,2057.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: C-R-I-S-A-F-I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2057.0,2065.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2065.0,2066.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: So he was the first president when I first walked into the room and he pulled out these journals from decades ago and [was] reading all these entries and seeing these photos in the same Queens College room, but just such a completely different time. Like before we were even, were little babies or not even alive and just reading them and it's cute because it felt like you're just reading these stories, these little journal entries from other people your age, but they were real stories and they just felt so like no one's changed in the last 30, 40 years. We're the same. And it's just so comforting to read these things, but they're going through a very different experience than what we have. It makes you feel fortunate how much things have changed, how much campus has changed, how comfortable you can just be in yourself and however you choose to identify.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2066.0,2134.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: And so it was really powerful to just see how much things have changed but how much they've [stayed] the same. And I wonder if we still have, we started trying to keep our own notebooks and those were also really sweet. It was nice to go downstairs and even if you didn't have something to write, open it up and see what somebody wrote maybe earlier that day. I don't think we kept them as diligently as our predecessors, but we started keeping a couple of notebooks and that was a fun activity. That was so cool. We found a lot of really old things. I think at one point there was almost, it was a poster with signatures all over it. We tried to recreate that too. I think we recreated it one year. We came up with that one, I don't know, I wonder if it's still in that room. Just like doodles and signatures from all of the members.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2134.0,2187.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: That's so cute. And it was just an event poster?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2187.0,2191.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Yeah, it was a piece of card stock or something. They must have just put it up and all started signing it. So we had one too, I think that year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2191.0,2200.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: That's so cute. Did you contribute to the journal yourself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2200.0,2206.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: No, I was too shy. I did a lot of reading. I might've doodled in it, but I could never get myself to just write. I'm already— it's hard enough for me to speak anything. I was very shy in high school, in college. It took me many years to open up and then I'm suddenly president, so people had known me from before, they would be like, \"How, what happened?\" I became the loudest person in the room. It's crazy. But no, I didn't write any of the journals unfortunately. I wish I did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2206.0,2237.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Were there specific people in GLASA that you remember forming especially strong friendships, relationships with, that really stick out to you when you think back on the club?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2237.0,2253.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Yeah, it's funny, all of my college—a lot of my adult friends are still people from GLASA and still college friends. So I moved here to California recently, but all of my friends who have visited so far are from GLASA. So Kelly Chan was a longtime member and we're still very close friends. JC, our advisor, still very, very, very close friends. I have Riley, Alex Crisafi. We still keep in touch. So many different, a lot of people, they're probably a majority of my friends now are still people from GLASA.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2253.0,2302.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: That's incredible. Speaking as somebody who has graduated from school and knows what it's like to adult in the world, to be able to stay friends with those people is really special, to stay that close since graduating from Queens College. So you said that you're in California. What else have you been up to since graduating?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2302.0,2332.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Probably just all the normal adult things. I took a couple years off working and then I did my Master's and then I'm still working.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2332.0,2341.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: What was your Master's in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2341.0,2344.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: My Master's is in Interaction Design.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2344.0,2347.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2347.0,2349.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: And probably just normal working stuff. I did visit the campus every so often and I did go to events every so often after that. Come back and just do things. Not in a very long time, but it's crazy to think. So sometimes if I pop on Facebook I'll see the club now and not recognize a single face. But it's the same thing, it's the same vibe and that's just so sweet. But it's nice to know that it's a very different place for Gay-Straight Alliances and Prisms and all the rainbow groups from when I was in high school to now. So it's nice to see how much the world has changed since college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2349.0,2401.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Was the group called Prism when you graduated, do you remember? Were you part of that conversation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2401.0,2408.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: Yes. I don't remember if I was secretary or president the year that we switched to Prism, but we were GLASA and then we were Prism and then shortly after I left we went back to GLASA and that's because no one knew what Prism was and it was hard to explain. Although it was time to be Prism, I don't know if everyone was ready for us to be Prism. So then it was GLASA I think for a short time then I think it's Prism again now. So it was a little toggling back and forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2408.0,2439.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: So just to run through the timeline, I think it's—So GLASA originally stood for the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Alliance and the name shifted to Prism. When it shifted back to GLASA, it changed to the Gender, Love and Sexuality Alliance, which is still what it's called now. But it sounds like there was a real need to shift away from the sort of terminology of \"gay, lesbian and straight\" feeling very limiting. Could you talk more about how that conversation unfolded, if I'm missing any details in terms of explaining that, how that name change came about, why it happened?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2439.0,2494.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: At the time it was something that a lot of clubs and organizations were doing. I almost think we were a little bit late, but it wasn't like our name was limiting us really in any way. But I remember our president at the time, it was either Jacques or Sam, mentioned that that was something we probably should start thinking about doing. And then the conversation just kind of very slowly snowballed into, we were really discussing how it would be nice to not have to— to have a club name that was more inclusive. And then we had a bunch of names that we came up with and a series of meetings of voting on which one we wanted. We landed on Prism before we actually became Prism. It was so much paperwork. So I think it took a year before we actually called it Prism. It took forever convincing administration and then even once we became Prism, it was that thing we had to be like \"Prism, formerly known as GLASA\" for anyone to know who we actually were. So we really didn't go by Prism for very long. And I do think that going back to GLASA and changing it to, was it to Gender, Love and—?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2494.0,2572.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Sexuality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2572.0,2573.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: And Sexuality, that's a fantastic solution. I wish we thought of that. That's fantastic because that solved all the problems that we had by going by Prism. So I love it very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2573.0,2585.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Sometimes it takes a few years to brew these things. So you've already spoken in terms of the personal relationships that you've continued to have, but in terms of how GLASA, your experiences in GLASA/Prism, how have they continued to inform your life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2585.0,2620.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: That's an interesting question. I was a teacher shortly after college for about three or four years and I've been in education for quite a long time. And having these experiences, I've always—in school I became the person that a lot of teachers and a lot of administration would come to to develop those spaces for students. It helped me build a lot of great relationships with students too. I was the go-to person for kids to talk to and come out to and from coming from high school or middle school and having [done] that, me being the kid who looked for that person, and it's nice to have that person. It was nice to become that person later in life and see that full circle come through. And so it was just, I guess that's the biggest thing I can think of is kind of just being, maintaining that, being part of the community, building those spaces in places outside of campus and just maintaining that over the years as I go on, move on to other things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2620.0,2707.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: You mentioned earlier about how life is a little bit different for students now in terms of LGBTQ issues and visibility. How do you personally feel like the dialogue has shifted about LGBTQ people since you first joined GLASA?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2707.0,2734.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: It changed a lot. I remember leaving high school and marriage wasn't legalized and that was big. That was a big deal. I remember if I were in a relationship with someone, that was a conversation we had, and during my time in college that changed. That was huge and that was powerful. Or going from feeling siloed or even seeing the community kind of in its own little spaces to being a part of so many more things. Or being far less uncommon or far less stigmatized to go by, to identify in any way that wasn't the norm. Watching the terminology grow and change and then become more normalized and watching all the celebrations, like Pride, just explode. Queens Pride explode. And the conversations shift and just change. New problems come, new solutions come and it's just forever growing and changing. So I think it's transformed a lot, if I think back now. But in just always heading in the right direction of just letting people be who they are and loving them for who they are and accepting them for who they are and letting people freely identify as they feel, which is always the goal and always the direction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2734.0,2834.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Awesome. So I have one more question for you, but I do want to offer you the space if there's anything we've not touched on about GLASA that you want to make sure to say or to share. And that door is also always open, so no pressure to have an answer to that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2834.0,2857.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: That is—I feel like I, surprisingly, I went through all these questions and I don't feel like I mentioned JC Carlson enough. So we had at least two advisors I believe during my time as a club and one of them for most of the time was JC. And that was probably the most powerful advisor we've ever had and they've developed most of our—the Safe Sex PJ party was JC. The ability for us to have such a huge prom was JC. All of our guidance in how to be able to do anything. It was just powerful to have someone, so much, someone who was experienced to go to as a mentor and help us. Even if it was just like, \"I'm going to sit in your office and talk about absolutely nothing right now.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2857.0,2914.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: And to have a part of our administration go to all our events and support us so much. And not just us, but every single club. I almost wish more advisors did that. Treated us as, took our clubs very seriously and everything we were doing so seriously, and care about us so much and help us and support us and just be there. And so a very powerful part of our entire history is, and probably the biggest things that we did wouldn't have happened, without JC. I still love going to campus and still seeing all the things that they're doing and a lot of the events I go to see are the things that they've put together. So I think that you can't talk about the history of this club without mentioning JC. And I am like, how did I not talk about them more? So that I would love to leave there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2914.0,2973.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: They are a superhero for sure. Awesome. Well, for the last question that I have for you, it's a question I ask everyone, which is: what would you tell a new queer student at Queens College trying to find themself in 2024?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2973.0,2993.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jennie Sanchez: I would tell them to just be ready and open for new experiences, and for just self-discovery. Just try new things. Don't go in and be like, \"This is exactly what these next four or five years\"—and don't even worry about it being four or five years. The amount of students that come in are like, \"I'm not graduating in four years\" and letting that stress them out. Now that I'm older and I've been a teacher, well, if it's seven years, if you graduate, you're fine. But don't let the four years stress you. But let—this time is really nice. It's one of your last times to really just be a student and do so many fun things and learn. You're going to learn so many things in these years. Take the time to actually discover what careers, paths you might be interested in and who you—learn about yourself and just build really great relationships and don't take it too seriously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=2993.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203/transcript/67617/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dani Stompor: Awesome. Thank you so much, Jennie. Thank you so much for the folks listening, I appreciate your time. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/104/collection_resources/129318/file/242203#t=3060.0,3070.176"}]}]}]}