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Uh, what was it like growing up at Kew Garden Hills? Um, what was the neighborhood like? Um, it's all yours, so feel free to--\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=0.0,16.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: Oh, I, I was born in an apartment. I was raised until the age of almost 15 in an apartment. Uh, big apartment complex where we had boys and lady--girls my age and I was 15, 16. My father died, you know, he was very sick with cancer and he passed on and then I moved, uh, we were going to stay in Kew Gardens - excuse me in Brooklyn and Crown Heights. Then my uncle who was one of the officials at the Jewish Center Kew Gardens Hills brought us out to Queens and brought me into a garden apartment development in, um, called the Kew Gardens Hills Garden apartment development on the South side of, um, uh, Vleigh Place, um, uh, park was around 78th road. I remember the address 135-38 78th Avenue. And, um, my brother, I had an older brother, lived with me and he went to, he went to, um, I was one year into Brooklyn Tech and he was going to City College and a very bright fellow he had over 92 average, he made Cooper Union, but, um, a year before that, but my parents didn't have the money to send him there it was sort of free, but you still had to pay a lot. So he was also accepted to city college uptown, and he went to city college uptown. And, uh, I went to Brooklyn Tech for another year, which I almost flunked out at 69 average. And then I went to Forest Hills High School. I transferred over, which was my school of, um, you know, zone school, you might say. Getting on that, somebody, I said, how do I get there, I just take three-- two buses. And someone said to me, finally, there's a bus on 141st street, right about a block away from where you live, get on that bus and it'll take you there. And went on that bus. At--was it 7:30? And took me right to the front door. Forest Hills High School were pretty good. A lot of kids, my age, there was no bullying. There was no problems there. I took my courses. My marks went up. I had, uh, when I graduated, um, I was in the 3.2 average, which I'm pretty proud of because I had to, you had to move up pretty good. I did very well in social studies and history, not as well in the sciences, which my brother did very well in. He started off as engineering major at City College, but he, then he turned to journalism. I, um, I, um, you know, I graduated and, uh, I was accepted, uh, sent my records in to be admitted to all the City Colleges. And the only posted my group that sent me back and he saying was Hunter, but I attended a term of Hunter College. And in the meantime, I found myself a job at A\u0026P at 73rd and Queens Boulevard in Forest Hills. They saw me, they put me into the job and I was basically a vegetable department, loading things, bringing them up the flight of stairs, building up myself, physically with \n[unclear] I was a big kid.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=16.0,201.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Yeahhhh\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=201.0,201.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNew Speaker: And my brother by this time, Um, uh, at the 61, my brother moved to California, took a job with, uh, I forget, I forget the firm he was with. I think it's your proposal mandatories that the technical writer - he was a grammarian, he knew his grammer very well. He could write very well. And they wanted the right company publications, you know, standard, you know, it was engineering. He knew it was something about science. And so he graduated Brooklyn tech. So they had him write up intercompany memorandum and, um, training exercises, et cetera. And he did pretty well there. And he had his jump self, a job, and he lived in LA Western less Los Angeles. And, uh, I seem to be doing pretty well, except he went broke at first year. We have a tendency. When you live on your road to spend all the money you have, I let them 500 bucks that time I was still working at the entry.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=201.0,256.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: Then I started working when I go into night school. Um, uh, Queens night, I was working at, um, two nights A\u0026P and I worked in Alexander's in Rego Park about a buck 25 and then about 50 an hour, less than I was at the A\u0026P - at A\u0026P I was, um, I lasted as long as I could there, I just psychologically it was just too much for me. And so I went to that and, uh, my cousin got a job - cousin Harry. They see Friday nights at my uncle's house in Kew Gardens Hills, he was a man of considerable income and worked as a partner in a clothing firm. And, um, it was 144-25 70th Road, nice house. He built himself a stunned sundeck. I hit the guy, it was low middle class and it was nice. So you go there and it's summer and is nice and et cetera.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=256.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And I, I went through a high school, graduated, and then of course I told you, my experience is trying to get into college and only Hunter and Queens College had me at night for a few years and I made day school in day school. My brother at City College had pledged how Epsilon Phi. So I went to Epsilon Phi, and I got into it. And, uh, and it held night with something else I'm like, I went to that, you know, or they send you out with no money and you're supposed to go here and find this, find that a little trace here, and a clue here, and a piece of paper and a summary. And we had to have about five or six different guys who went out. It was a pledge, a we were a pledge class and this guy hid money in his shoe, but the guys had spent it to us.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=310.0,357.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: I felt so good about that. So we can go from here to the subway and enter the Brooklyn Bridge and they put up a note on the bottom. You know, we had to lean over the Brooklyn Bridge to pick up another note, Oh God, until we got back to the pledge. And this is time also, I was weightlifting and I've got myself up to a considerable degree \n[inaudible]. And I enjoyed, I enjoyed what I was doing, going to a night school and then day school. In day school I was pledging in my first term and got myself in and the old, any old cafeteria cafeteria next to you has a new science building. And back of the library, the class, now we call it Rosenthal Library then we called it Clapper Library, there was a cafeteria, and we used to every, every fraternity had a table, every house plant of a fraternity had a table.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=357.0,417.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: Every sorority had a table, you know, and, uh, we were there and, uh, it was interesting, you know, he went out and went out with the guys and you compare things. If we bought the New York Times, just read the sports section - no one was that intellectual. I was a history major, and I did fairly well, I wasn't writing too well, I always had a little difficulty in putting things on paper. I don't know what it was, but, um, I managed to get myself through and I took a special test. I found I had an English deficiency. So I'm going back to early six before my brother had out to California. My brother said, what are you sweating so much over this wrting composition? I said, this teacher wants us to write a composition. I've taken a special class. He says, let me help you with that. This is a grammarian, right?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=417.0,467.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: All of a sudden my, my work, my essays were pretty good. And at the end of the term, you set up passing you, but, in the middle of the term, you really improved yourself - my brother was helping me write it. And so it was that okay. And then, uh, I graduated and, um, I took several exams or took a junior high school regular, and a high school regular (teaching exams). And it did very well in that junior high school exam. And, uh, they placed me as a, as a substitute in junior high school... in Long Island City actually was, uh, they said Long Island City, but I believe it was Woodside, but it was whatever it was. It was interesting getting there - and all the principal, the kids naturally ran over me. I just went over the kids, but I did have some student teaching and I taught, I taught math, math, and science, science.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=467.0,522.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: I've taught. I taught, uh, auto auto mechanics and auto things from my texts. I didn't realize I came by a bus - I'd never had a car in my life. \n[inaudable] The kids ever found out about that and I did, uh, I did Okay. And the next term they had me in social studies a woman went on pregnancy leave. Way later in life when I did my civic work and she was pretty good. She was pretty good. And I got a job there and I did much better. And it was social studies. And then after two years of junior high school and, um, I was going to be a regular, but, uh, I took the exam for regular high school. I did extremely well. Next thing I knew I was appointed to Francis Lewis High School in Fresh Meadows.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=522.0,574.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: My God that's like heaven. I mean, escalate. I mean, that's really heaven. So, so I got a call from the department chairman over it. So she said, you really want the job. I had someone else who wants to take your place. So I said \"well, I'd like it to junior high\". She said, well, what I want you to do is notice of declaration of where to send it to you blah, blah, blah, That night I went to my uncle's house, it was in June and I fell asleep on a couch there - air condition. And what I say, are you crazy? You're going back to shoot guys \n[inaudeible] Fresh Meadows. Monday morning, I pulled up to the ... and I said, I'm sorry. I have to got to take the job. You sit back. We put me on to the principal's secretary, Ed Frame was a principal, put me down.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=574.0,621.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And she said, I want you to come here. And September so-and-so, I felt good. Uh, over the summer, I got a call from that same department. She, my son, he said, we started up a spot in social studies to get from my protege, Ira Lavine, So I didn't feel too bad about it. So that was, I came and I worked in, um, Francis Lewis High School, and I noticed something. I, uh, I took the boys and the girls, the boys where in the first four rows and girls in the back four rows, Ed Frame cami in, then he said, what are you doing? I said, well, you know, that's what we didn't choose. As, you know, you have to mix and match everything has to be just alphabetical. And so I did it, and when I spoke to back to my, uh, way back to the junior high school, so how come you guys did this said, well, we noticed the boy girl who was sexually involved with a boy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=621.0,676.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: We separated the kids. We did that to avoid embarrassment - the whole school. I was there. The first term I was \n[cross talk] at Francis Lewis High School, there was a teacher strike in 68 into 69. And, uh, that's \n[cross talk] for a week, and all of a sudden I'm at a pickett line, you know? And I joined, I joined the, uh, when I first went to Edison, Edison, and I joined a union there and I sort of liked it. It was okay, then it was okay and whatever, but this time high school, I took a liking to it. I did some volunteer work. And then the 69 strike was over. We went back in and the kids had lost a great deal of time. And we made up for it. We were really moving fast, you know, when the curriculum was moving on.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=676.0,734.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And, um, there was one teacher, she lived in Forest Hills here first job was teaching was in a correctional institution. But, uh, she, she got caught up pretty well, I forgot her name though. And she did so quick - I said, I'm up to the Vietnam War. And uh, I said, what are you up to? She said the Klingon Empire! I mean that's going pretty fast - the Klingon Empire.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=734.0,775.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: I stayed at Cardozo High School for a number of years. And, uh, we all liked it. After Francis Lewis High School, I passed my regular exam and went to Forest Hills. I went to, um, went to Cardozo High School, we all stayed there. The only reason you left Cardozo was if a person died, or they moved up - they became a department chairman, or we call it assistant principals, but it became a thing - nobody ever left of their own accord. The first year, two guys left - they came back real quick like - knew what's good for them. And fortunately for me, when I had, this has been problems, the whole Dean's office was still with social studies teachers. So I had nobody. So I used to take care of these kids. They took care of them, but, um, there was no cursing out of teachers unless, and they serve detention if they did we transferred them out. There was no bullying of students.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=775.0,831.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: There was one person, one kid who was bullied by a couple of her girlfriends. She brought it to the principal. Fortunately for her mother was head of the parents association. So the principal Ben Michelson had retired after two years and Arnie Goldstein came in, nice guy. And he really was, every Friday, he'd take off - he was trying to get a job as a principal out in the \n[inaudible], and the pay differential. The union was there for us, but the pay differential was about $30,000 for administrators. So you want that you took a trip. You know, he did that. So one day the principal, he called in the girls who were frustrating and beating up on this kid. And he said, he said, I'm going to take care of you. And so he called up the parent and he said, listen, I could transfer these kids out. I can do it. No problem, you have to go with the court to stop me, he said. I can transmit them it to Andrew Jackson, a terrible reputation, that was in Southeast Queens there was a lot of fights there, and laws, a gang. I could transfer them out. These kids, these girls really left this other kid alone. So, but that's what happened. And that's how it was done then. Arnie left and in came Burt Linda. Burt Linda was a super principal, or he was so good, he knew computers. He said, Jeff, I want you to be my public relations man, I said Burt I, this I, that I'm working as a... (he said) Jeff, you run a... you could be transferred out, there was a woman that was easily below, who was transferred out to Brooklyn. I said, Oh, you set you up, transferred out. You couldn't get transfered - take the job, take the job. I took it. I did, I did public relations, work, bulletin boards, i did public relations, I took pictures of kids which were developed. I paid forit and then he paid me for the bills I sent to him.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=831.0,952.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: I went to some of the weekly newspapers Queens should the court with the court. Around that time, the Chronicle, I went to something called the, um, I forget the daily... The New York daily, it was a black newspaper in South Queens. And I had black kids who did very well. And I took pictures of them. They put them in, put all them in. I used to go to it to a, to a watch from a call to a, uh, not a FedEx, but a place you could blow up pictures, make them larger. And he said, set a bulletin board for kids, kids accomplishments. I put up their pictures behind plasti off course. The kids loved it because they'd see their friends and them, and that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=952.0,991.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And so I stayed with Cardozo for a long, long time. And then your looking at age 59, 60, I had, um, 35 years in, I had I have him that I started in 65. I had, uh, 65 to 95. I had 35 years in a whole bunch of \n[inaudible] by the time he retired. And the union was, I had been offered to retire five years before that I would have taken a pay loss, but I said, no, let me, let me continue. And then we all retired about the same time, we filed the paperwork out together in this empty room, we sent it in. And, um, and, uh, you know, the date was 2000 gonna tell ya in 2000. And, uh, and that's exactly what happened. I retired in 2000 and, uh, what I do then I, um, I had a job with the legislator. I had several jobs with legislators I've worked for Morty (Morton) Povman Part-time from, um, well actually Alan Hevesi from about 65 to 73. And then Morty Povman City Councilmen until about 2001.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=991.0,1071.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And then I, you know, and then I worked full time for him, but I couldn't make too much money. There was a sort of a, you couldn't make than $20,000 a year if you were retired teacher and getting a pension that later changed. But, uh, later it changed to 27. Uh, but I couldn't get up that high. So my daughter was hired on, you know, for 10,000 and she worked part time. So the money was there, you know? And, um, and then \n[inaudible, Marty Pardmen?] Term limited, I think it was term limited. And that was 2000 about the same year I retired. And, and so I got a job with David Weprin, and he was a great guy and he's a very good legislature, state assembly. David had me on for a number of years and then, uh, I left him and I went on to the staff of Joe \n[inaudible].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1071.0,1124.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: My wife already worked with Joe, and Joe had me on as his representative at his headquarters, legislative headquarters at city hall. And then in city council I learned a lot there. Then, uh, you know, things came to a head and, um, I had a job with him and he went to the State Senate and he couldn't afford to pay me more than a certain amount. And you know I was looking around for additional work. Um, actually I'd taken a test. I'm, I'm a, I'm a licensed court guy. I had taken a test. I did tours with the Jewish organizations and I, and I wanted to, um, let's see. Now I was going to take a job with, um, you know, with, with one of these, uh, tour guides, you know, prop the trucks, but it was so cold. I went in January was so cold and I couldn't stand it too much.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1124.0,1175.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: So, um, they had actually, they put me on, I actually, because some of the people had retired on them. And so the supervisor and was going to put me on, he says, I want you to call me next week. We have a position for you. I just had a lot of training. I was up there for two months, you know, freezing. And I had my, I had a license as a tour guide. And, uh, then of course I applied also to teach, um, uh, in junior high school and high school, you know, and junior high school, except now the board of ed, it became a department of education. So it was a lot of talking and seeing people. And finally, they sent me my, uh, license to teach in, uh, junior high school. And I, they had me a junior high school in, um, in, uh, Queens.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1175.0,1222.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And, um, I forget the name of the junior high school now, but that sounded okay. You know, but we to make that much money. And all of a sudden that was called into, um, Marty had me into... Nettie Mason had retired. And Marty had me into the office in 2010, 11. The office had Mike Rice's office of top assistant and to Joe Crowley, was congressmen. And then, uh, Joe Joe said, well, Jeff, we can have a good position for you, actually, what he had called and said, Mike Sonata, which your sister took \n[inaudible] going to take his place I thought Jeff was going to take its place on the private. Then they called me and they said, Jeff jobs, you at the board of elections has got 20 let's at about 23 a year. You know? And then you move up into that hat and all that stuff.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1222.0,1276.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And I put up my search reach. I said, I just need more appointments said you could've had me placed on the other stairs. You didn't have to put me in a board of elections. And people walked out and made a ride. Lauren's at Joe Crowley was angry. And Joe put me on at as a regularly, put me not as temporary, but as a regular at the Oh. And, uh, I may felt great about it. And they took me around there and it's cute. God. Finally, I found out I had a sleep apnea problem that had been, really had my problems for a while. Time I fell asleep in front of the computer and they said, we're computerized. And finally, they transferred you over to the, um, voting machine facility. You handle voting machines in Cuba and little village. And, uh, then they put athletes, they moved to forest Hills.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1276.0,1330.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And so, uh, the first greeting was from a Republican guy. There was two Republicans, two Democrats in the office, the supervisor. So I said, how long are going to say, Hey Jeff, that's a nice greeting. I said a couple of years. And it had me doing work. And that point, my cry psychiatrist said, I have a new medication for you. You don't have to be well, these crazy tests with sleep apnea. And I had to take pills every day and you know what? I stayed awake. I stayed awake and they had me off of computers. Of course they noticed as soon as they put me onto a computer, I tell it was off. But it hadn't these fixing things and moving things around and it was physical leg up and gradually well with that, they kept me away from hanging around and facing a wall or something.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1330.0,1375.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And I did work. I moved around, I physically liked the work and I stayed there. I've been there. And, uh, that was in cute guns. That was in, I was in middle village and I did well. And then the supervisors didn't like me at first. And uh, he said, I heard him speak to somebody else. You have big ears in these places. I said, I'd lived, I was born in Malta. And I turned to my, like the films. And I said, him, have you ever heard of the Maltese? Falcon? He opens up his shirt. Neither is a Falcon. He says, I left that film, always talked a lot. He's friendly. He said, I know every Jewish person on Malta community. And then he was transferred over to forest Hills. So people said, he's coming in Manny. Oh, what was his last name? Manny. I forget his last God. And they said, he said, the guy said he knows every Jewish person, but Jewish people called me up on his side. I said, don't carry too much person. You have to trust that. He's okay. And so he had someone else come in and my problems here were period of two years, but things worked itself out. I'm still there after 10 years. That's, that's how it is. That's how the picture is, you know? And I'm not sure what else you want us to do you want to know from me? You know, I know.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1375.0,1452.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Uh, thank you, Jeff. No, but this is, um, well-versed of your bag or fee of your, um, your experiences in teaching and also in politics too, like so much, um,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1452.0,1465.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: Going into my political stuff, huh? Oh God. There's so much to say I was working. I was a history major. So I tried a little bit in politics at first. I wasn't sure I was a Democrat and I, and uh, what year was this now by 71, 72. And I went to a Republican club in Richmond Hill. They said, your club is a Republican club. Halprin was, there he was a Congressman - welcome young people, come on in. Then I said, wait a minute, I am a Democrat. I should really. So I called the democratic headquarters, looked up in a phone book and the democratic headquarters said, well, you're in, um, Charlotte \n[chairman's] club and your legislator is a assemblyman Cooperman, Arthur Cooperman. I said, all right. So wait, wait, wait, I'm looking at your address or a block out of that - your in Morty Povman's city councilmans, Povman's district. So I called them, I had his phone number. I called him up and he says to me, he said, listen, this is December 16th, December 25th. I'm still going to be up here every Monday and Thursday. You had people up here and why don't you come up and we'll talk. And so I didn't have a car then, this is, God knows, so I took two buses, I got up there and he said to me, before and over the phone, he said, you know, \"what do you do for a living\", I said I'm a school teacher I worked with - a little part-time for the union. He says, okay, well, look at the lawyers, but come up anyway. That was a great, how do you do? And I got up there, but he's very lawyer oriented. Jeff. I made a phone call to the union to, uh, uh, the union legislative person. They know you and you've come highly recommended.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1465.0,1568.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: I said, thank you. You said hang around here a little bit. You know? And that was hanging around outside and I saw three or four of the guys other guys out there lawyers and they weren't friendly to me at all, 'cause they were waiting to talk - that's what politics is. And then, um, I was in school one day. One of these guys was, uh, I forget, his brother was a, was an assemblyman from Long Island City. And what happened was, um, I spoke to a friend of mine who was also a social studies teacher. And I said to him, you know, this guy up there, he doesn't know. He said, what's his name? Oh, he's my uncle, my mother married twice - He's my uncle. Oh, really tell him, Ernie \n[Kiro?] gives you good regard. So I got up there and I, I just spoke to him. I forgot his name. I said, I've worked with on the \n[Arnie ...?]. You work at \n[inaudible] Oh, you are a teacher. Then all of a sudden guys instrumented with me. Oh, you're a teacher, not a lawyer. No, I'm not.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1568.0,1634.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: He waited. He was in a good position. You had a place down on Madison, in City Council, now's he became borough president and Morty got them jobs. And I said, one day to Morty after the first six months I was done, I said, Morty, I think I'm in the leave - you're going to leave. I said, you do a lot of work, you've got good petition totals. You've got about 80 signatures. My mother helped me along with that. I said, I was with my mom, he told me, she said Morty it's too much. And the next meeting we held was at the Jewish center at Kew Gardens Hills and Sandy Povman comes to me and says - Jeff you're leaving, Morty needs you Jeff, please stay, stay with him. And here's the district leaders wife, you know, I said, okay, I did that. You know, and one thing led to the other. And the next year I did the petitions for Morty, and we doubled our petition totals - because I knew how to organize. I've learned in UFT, doing UFT (United Federation of Teachers). I learned how to organize. Very good. And so he became, I became an administrative assistant to Moise. He tried to chalk. I said, I guess some ways, but mid seventies, now it gets your job with Many Gold - Not, no is I'll get you a job with... we'll see what I could do, Alan Hevesi had the, he is looking for a job. So I went over I interviewed with Hevesi and his state assemblymen in his college officers, Wilson, I said, great. You're in, you going to start at about 50. I forget what it was it wasn't very much at all - working part time in my office. I said, great - if you want work full time there. So I was working there in his office, attending night meetings for him. I love the job because I used to attend meetings.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1634.0,1735.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: He was very popular. As far as sales guy. I said, I represent Alan Hevesi. Wow. Wow. You know, I learned a great deal about politics. He shared an office in Forest Hills on Yellowstone with Manny Gold. We didn't get along with for a while. But later on, we got along pretty well. I set up a meeting. I was going to setting up things. So I set up a tenants advisory meeting. So all the tenants, and he just came into the, what school was that junior high school, 190. And, uh, he was there and they didn't like what he was saying. And he booed and this and that. And he was so pissed off Manny Gold. He said what kind of meetings you set up, you know, I was sitting behind a desk. He pulled me up - he was very angry at me. And that was it. But later on, I set up another meeting, two years hence, and this time they applauded him, I knew how to set up a meeting, keep the troublemakers out, keep the good guys in. And I told him, let me just say, this, don't go kill yourself like this, and they applauded him. He said, the next day, Jeff, you did a good job. So I was in with Manny Gold also. And they shared their offices for a very long time. Then Manny moved to Forest to Lawson Street and Alan stayed two blocks from his house. So you have, so Boulevard just pretty cool, and walk into the office there. Of coursre they had a crazy administrative assistant, but now you live with that sort of thing. And then I, um, I stay with Alan for a long time. And then, um, and then let's see now what happened after that? Morty Povman, I forget what was the incident involved in this? But, um, I forget now, what the heck he, Alan Havesi fired me and, uh, and uh, he told Morty Povman about it. You have to tell the district leader. I had two guys on my staff, I'll trade your two bikes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1735.0,1858.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And the trade was consummated. I walked onboard Morty Povman's staff \n[inaudible] everybody knew where that was. And I just parked my car nearby. I put money in the meters and I walked out there and, um, and I was still doing, I was doing work at Cardoza high school for Bert. I said, I was doing the bulletin boards and setting up special meetings for him and gave out a wall. It's a community service and all that. And one thing he taught me, Joe is let me out early getting out at three. I got out at one 30. So one day I stayed late. I had a community service class. His would go in the different community. Organizations they'd have a scorecard. They had to break me once a week that said, we get this for that. And this and that side by the simplifies, recommended that at, about, we meet in the auditorium one day, a week, Monday after we meet and we stayed at two about two 30 and then they bring me this stuff and we got a good reputation because everyone loved that free, free hand, bright kids, you know?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1858.0,1932.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And, um, that was one day it comes from, what do you like the rest of the time I get there at one 30? I like to work until God knows when for Morty, the yarn. I forget what it was. Morty was maybe 20 years. Okay. And so that was it. You know, that was my politics, you know, within what equals limited. And then I went on through, Joe was staff, um, and Joe hired me on. And at that point I could make more money was making 26,000. Was the joke with Apple hire me. It was, Oh, no, it was after Morty. Who would I go to? David? Weprin I forget what it was recently. Let me get my head together again. Uh, yeah, Marty pop-in and then David Weprin hard. Neon was more, he was term limited. That was before. And then David weapon had, had me on for couple of years and then, uh, went on to the staff of Joe at dabble.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1932.0,1994.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And Joe had hired my wife and he put me on to put 26,000 a year. That's not bad. My wife made 30. Oh, wow. Uh, no, that was, that was pretty good money. I think we're trying to make social secure. Now. We didn't have social security, then we did. Okay. We did. Okay. And we had to house and we had your call up and we watched that Nicholson dimes and we did all right. Did I got my pension? My pension came through in the early seventies, which was 65 a year. So that, that, that, that we weren't starving to death. Thank God we weren't starving to death. Then we did. All right, we did it right. And, uh, as I said, um, I was very happy to be with, uh, with, uh, Joe with dabbles and then many years. And, uh, but then he became a state Senator.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=1994.0,2046.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: And for whatever reason, we potted and that we had never been a friendly partying. When he went to state Senate, he put me on at half the pay that I made less than half the pay put me on. Part-time used to attend night meetings for him, but I attended a lot of night meetings. He liked that my attention to go to night cause she had two children by then. And I had attended weekend meetings. You know, staffing meetings, Sunday meetings. He loved that. He loved that. Of course he spent time at his wife. His wife was tough with him. And um, he loved that spending, spending that time, you know? And uh, and uh, he liked that. He liked that. He liked that a joke, Apple, you know,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2046.0,2088.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Joe - who we have now\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2088.0,2092.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: As vacant 13, 14, I said, I gotta do better than this. And I was making then 26, you know, at the board of elections at 23 later Joe, raise it to 28. And that experience, with that supervise Manny Carolino \n[inaudible] from the Kew Gardens office over and people liked me there. And then first said it was a good, they stole my glasses. And then on, even now I take my glasses off and I zip up my whatchamacallit my bag. I have a duffel bag, I put it into everything. And then they treated me not too nicely, you know, cause I was doing some paperwork and then I was doing, uh, moving a boom around. And so a people that didn't like me too much, but you know, what happened really was really good about again, I kept awake the supervisors like me and then, uh, something else happened, which, uh, something which is very good.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2092.0,2149.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: They started transferring women in from the far \n[inaudible] office. I don't know because we have mostly a male group has only one woman there about 40 males. And all of a sudden when the males retired, the women came in and they treated me pretty decently. And these guys began to, they said, how can you make making a mess with Jeff? He's a good guy. That's embarrassing. So two of the rough guys left me alone and uh, that's extra work, you know? And he liked me after a while. You know, I, I stood up and some guys, uh, I stood up to them and I just think of a. My temperament, I want there to be a legislative, never was that breast screen. It's very annoying scenario. So I got angry very quickly. And I took on a guy, six foot, 300 pounds, nice to him. I said to him, three 50 man. I said, listen, I have a double X plus three X. I'm going to double X. What you would call it? W sweatshirt, what happened? No, I take a six sex.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2149.0,2214.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: Another guy was a big wall. So, um, so I, uh, did his thing pretty well. You know, I came up to my concern and it was another woman next to him. You don't have to take, you know, take these pills and dump it, et cetera. And the guy said, you don't have to Jeff, you know, so these guys, and it was a couple of people on the other side and it was black woman there and they were nice, you know? So I think that was a civilizing aspect of things. And I know what they meant when they said, well, when it came out West, it was the degree of civilization. I know what now. So that's, that's really been my, um, time. And, uh, that's been my politics, you know, it's always democratic party now. And blessing from Janette was, you know, sort of relaxing now helped me a little bit.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2214.0,2259.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: It was the chairman of the board of the crop. Somebody popped in and scrub. And then some guy was pushing me out new constitution. And so I put someone else in as a chairman of the board. I, but still a state committee man. And, um, they pushed out some of the people I knew was members of the board. I pushed them back on it. Let ahead do the guy that did the letterhead. And that was it. So it ain't like a super bad. And um, so everything was now sort of stabilized. Um, I was backing Genero. They went back in someone else. They wanted Jim to lose his, uh, special election in June as temporary. Second, he won, won handily, Oh, between the, um, uh, early voting and absentee ballots got 60% of the vote. And so, uh, the guy who was pushing for someone else to take his place in the regular election.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2259.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: So I workJim Genero right now. He's helping out there. I'm helping out now with, uh, Lynn Schulman and forest Hills. I was like called up his group of his people. I said, help me out. I'm helping Jeff. We're helping Lynde show them. And I want you to volunteer, you know, work with them. That was his people. So now everything is sort of best status. And we'll see what happens. I don't know. Hey, I'm helping out. Jimmy did very, very well for himself and I can't get a-hold of his campaign manager - Matt Maloy. got an email - got rid of that email. And so I'm trying to reach them in other ways to get something over to, I left with the phone number to him. I said, what's happened in that. I'm going to send him an email anyway, later on today. Any other questions I think we went through a five minutes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2310.0,2361.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: No, no, it's fine, Jeff. No, no, this is, this is good stuff here. And I appreciate all this and um, and no,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2361.0,2367.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: I'm not sure I'm not putting you off, except I'm a little bit tired - I'm not used to talking this much, but listen, I know I have something for you. Something really good. It's a book. Uh, can I drop it off? I don't want to put it to heavy book. 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I'll give you my address. Um, now today, today is Thursday. Tomorrow is Friday. Nothing doing all right. Uh, what time you coming over tomorrow?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2419.0,2431.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Let me see. Tomorrow's Friday. Uh, I am going to record my session with Barbara. So I guess right after Barbara's session, um, in the mornings, would that be fine? Like around, Okay. Yeah. Wonderful. Jeff. And just before I let you go, I know, I know you're tired and um, no, but I, I appreciate all this information. Like this is like, this is history, you know? So I mean, everything that you're sharing, I mean, really it's truly, um, it is so resourceful and you have no idea, like, this is like really big\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2431.0,2477.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: Stuff about half the things I do here. I plucked a lot of civic organizations. I didn't go into that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2477.0,2484.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's perfectly fine. So, um, and, and if anything, if my coordinators feel that I have yet to, um, ask you if something of some sort yeah,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2484.0,2496.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: Cool here,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2496.0,2498.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Definitely. Um, and I appreciate your time so much stuff. Um, before I let you go, I just want to make sure that I get everything. And like I said, that, um, these recordings can get edited. So, uh, at some point, um, if you need a copy, um, I can always find a way to give you a copy for you, um, because, um, it's going to be definitely archived in our, in our site. Um,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2498.0,2526.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: Now Mike Sidell said, Mike said that was pretty high. And talking to you, he said, he said,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2526.0,2531.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Yes, I spoke to him on Wednesday. Um, and here's a funny story. I do need to reach out to him again because when we were trying to figure out the recording, I did miss half of the first session. 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Oh, wow. That's so good.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2582.0,2587.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: Hold up. I sent an email to a Jewish call up the secretary or the priest at queen of peace church, which is that main street. That's at the 78th Avenue. And they'll get you somebody older people to talk through area. You know what I mean? Very few Muslim contingent over on pauses and casino, but that's a group. That's a new group. I could probably get you into that one too, but I'll go to this one first. Try to capital first.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2587.0,2619.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Definitely. Um, before I let you go, Jeff, and again, this will be, um, edited. Um, I forgot to take if, um, your parents, um, if you don't mind me asking, um, are they still living or are they\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2619.0,2633.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: Well far gone? My father my father, um, my father's mother and father came from Germany here. And my mother's father came from Russia and mother's mother came from England and there I am. You know, I didn't tell that to it. Actually. When you said ethnicity, I said religion. My also my, I have, I have relatives. I have relatives who ran for parliament sit for parliament in England. And my uncle,, when everything was dirt poor in the Lower East side, he owned a tailor shop.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2633.0,2680.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: No problem, Jeff. And I appreciate this and that. I think we're, we're gonna do a follow-up if anything, so, but again, I don't think\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2680.0,2688.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJeff Gottlieb: They got call up the church. Cool. Thank you so much. Bye now.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2688.0,2698.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469/transcript/31586/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: No problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47099/file/120469#t=2698.0,2701.47918"}]}]}]}