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Again, thank you for joining us. My name's David Engelman from Queens Public Library. Thank you for joining us today for this oral history interview in honor of your mom, Elizabeth White Marcum. I have divided the conversation into a few themes just to help guide the conversation, but we're mostly interested in hearing from all of you in honor of your mother today. And I just wanted to let you know as well that we anticipate taking about an hour of your time, but of course I'm here if there was additional thoughts that you would like to share. And also, I just wanted to say too, that if we needed to pause the recording for any reason, we can certainly do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: So that said, maybe we'll dive right in just roughly so everybody knows I have a few themes. Those are the early life of your mom, the family and work life for your mom, and her work as a leader, volunteer, mentor, and activist—and I'm going to admit [Interviewer admits interviewee to Zoom]—as well as life in Queens because I know your mom was a lifelong resident of Queens. And then of course, any additional memories or experiences you'd like to share. So, we'll dive in and I'll start off with a fairly easy question saying, could you tell me your mom's full name, where and when she was born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=50.0,96.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Should I take that one? [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=96.0,98.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=98.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Our mother was born on January 19, 1940 in Maspeth, Queens. Her name at birth was Elizabeth Emily White, and she was named after her mom, our grandmother, Emily Tebbs White. And her first name, Elizabeth, was actually after her grandmother, our great-grandmother, who was Addify [phonetic] Elizabeth White. And they didn't give her the name Addify [phonetic], which I think we're all probably grateful for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=100.0,138.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=138.0,139.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: But she got Elizabeth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=139.0,142.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: And I understand her family, her mother and siblings called her Betty?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=142.0,148.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=148.0,152.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Could you tell me a little bit about your mom's childhood, what you know about where and how she grew up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=152.0,162.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Kim, do you want to start?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=162.0,165.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: I know our mom—she was born in the home. They lived—you know the exact address, I know, Jimmy—in Corona, Queens. And other than briefly living in Brooklyn, she lived in Queens her whole life. If I say anything incorrect, please—but she was the baby of four siblings. She had an oldest brother and two older sisters, and she was the baby of the family. And, you know—modest means—I believe they lived in our grandparents' home, her grandparents I should say, and our great grandparents' home. And she went to Flushing High School, and like I said, they lived in Corona. And we have lots of pictures from when they were kids in Flushing Meadow Park in that neighborhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=165.0,221.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: The address that Kim referred to was 108-54 41st Avenue, which is the house that our great-grandparents, George and Addie White, bought around 1910. And they lived in the house. And then my grandfather, our grandfather, inherited the house when his parents passed away. And that's the house that my mom, our mom grew up in. And that house still stands today, although it looks very different. But she liked to go back even in her later years, even when she had early dementia, she always wanted to go for a road trip to see the old house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=221.0,268.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: And Jimmy, that's in Corona?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=268.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Yes, that is in Corona, Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=270.0,272.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Did your mother live in Maspeth for a time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=272.0,275.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: She was born in Maspeth. Kim, just a little factoid. When my grandparents got married, they moved to Maspeth initially, and they lived in Maspeth for a couple of years. That's where our mom was born. She was born at home at the house in Maspeth. That address is actually on her birth certificate, which we have. And then our great-grandfather, I think, died in 1939. And as our great-grandmother was getting old, they moved into the house in Corona to help care for grandma, Great Grandma White. And then she passed in 1947, and that's where the family lived until our grandfather retired.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=275.0,326.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: What do you remember hearing about your mom's parents or siblings?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=326.0,334.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Dawn, Debbie, do you want to share anything?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=334.0,338.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: I mean, I think for myself—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=338.0,340.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: [unclear]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=340.0,340.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: Sorry Debbie, for myself I can remember, I don't know how true the story is, but I remember my mom telling us the story of when she was born at home, her mom—there wasn't an incubator, but she would put her in the oven to keep her warm with the door open. I don't know how true that story was, but she used to tell that story all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=340.0,365.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: But mom had a really close relationship with her mom, and especially in her later years would always tell us that she wanted to see her mom, that she was looking for her mom. And my mom, she was just the baby sister looking up to her other sisters and brother. And we would go and we'd visit often to New Jersey and spend some time with one of her sisters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=365.0,396.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: I'm the youngest of all of the children, so I probably have not as much of a memory of everyone. That's the older siblings. 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What kind of stories did she share about school or of being young in Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=413.0,430.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: I feel like their life was very family oriented, and I certainly remember her—our grandparents were religious, particularly our grandfather—his name was Homer White—because his grandfather had been a Methodist minister. So, I definitely remember her telling us that they would drive into Manhattan to go to a big church, and she would talk a little bit about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=430.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: And they had a little backyard in the house, and she certainly would tell us lots of stories of watching our grandmother—her mother—planting. Our grandmother was a real green thumb. 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She had a very deep and profound respect for her brother. And Bob—they called him, his name was Robert but they called him Bob. She really looked up to him. And then I think she also looked up to her older sisters Aunt Ruthie and Auntie Edna. And I think she was—I don't know. I think she was probably a little shy, but she loved to have a good time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=528.0,568.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: And her parents—your grandparents, what did they do for a profession for their work? Do you remember?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=568.0,578.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Yeah, our grandfather worked for Con Edison for his entire working life that I'm aware of, retiring I think in 1971. And I forget exactly what his job title was. Our grandmother worked in the home. She raised the children and kept the home, and she was quite a traditionalist in that sense. 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And I think she was a woman in the seventies and eighties and nineties who was often working like three jobs, raising a ton of children, and being active in her community. And I think we all saw a strong woman leading her family, leading her neighborhood children. And so she served as a model, I think, for all of the things that we all became, including Anju Rupchandani becoming a major leader in the city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1083.0,1159.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: I think you may have said it at the co-naming ceremony, but there's a sense of a natural-born leader, as you said, someone modeling these behaviors to the kids in their neighborhood, to her own family. 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I think that would be a safe segue, but I just had one more question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1159.0,1183.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: I know your mother was always there, say, at school activities and at the PTA conferences, and what comes to mind when you think about her dedication to you, her children, and to your own schooling and to your own activities, understanding that your mother had all these responsibilities and the work in providing for the family, but really her dedication to you all as her kids?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1183.0,1215.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Sadly, Debbie keeps dropping, but Dawn, do you want to share on this one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1215.0,1220.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: I think as a young child, I may not have realized—not that [unclear] the full extent of her dedication to us—but I think I didn't realize how tired she may have been at times. She worked night jobs—she worked multiple jobs. And I can remember from early on her dedication to when we had a play, she would rehearse our lines with us, and then when you're on the stage and you were performing, you would look out and there she was, reciting the lines with you or singing the songs with you. It was just—she was always there. She was always present. And it was something that I think all of us have taken into our adult lives that how important it is to be present, and how important it is to make sure that we are there for even the small moments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1220.0,1270.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: And I think she did that. And those are the things that made her most proud, right? It wasn't about the job title that she had or that she was an activist or that she was a leader. It was that she was present. I think she took more ownership of that than even any other title that she had. And Mom was her favorite title. That she was a mom was the one thing that she—that's what she wanted in life. She wanted to have a big family. She had a big family, and she took a lot of pride in it. She took a lot of pride in all of her grandchildren. She was just always present. 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I've been catching bits and pieces of it, but I feel like mommy coined, \"You just have to show up.\" I just remember her always being there. I remember she was the only parent that would come to where the parents were allowed to come and spend the day in the classroom and see how the kids were. I just remember her being the only mom, the only parent that would be there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1313.0,1360.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: I would say the same thing. I can't think of a moment, any moment in my life that mom wasn't there. And she wasn't—some people will be—and I've worked in the schools for 20 years—and I understand that people have to work—but our mom found a way. And I think we say that about her a lot. She always found a way, and she was always there. Always.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1360.0,1390.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: I wonder if we move on to some other themes, and that's this sense of your mom as sort of a natural-born leader—her work in volunteering, certainly in mentoring kids in the neighborhood, and as an activist in the sense of really showing up for her children, for her community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1390.0,1420.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: I think what comes to mind initially is certainly her work around LGBTQ [Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Queer] rights. 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I hope we'll go back and talk about the Boy Scouts and some of the things that she did when she was younger.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1459.0,1471.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: I don't think she became an LGBTQ activist until she knew for sure that she had an LGBTQ member of the family when I came out in 1989. But she was always great since the moment I came out to her. She was just an inherently decent person who didn't like unfairness and certainly wanted her kids to be treated well in the world. So, when I came out in '89 and became an activist and started marching in pride parades and things like that, it wasn't too long until she was joining me in a lot of that kind of thing because, as my sisters just said, she always showed up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1471.0,1532.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: She always was present, and if you ever asked her or told her that you needed her at something, she did everything she could to be there. So certainly, early Queens Pride parades, she marched with—we have a great photo of her and Dawn and maybe Jonathan as a little boy, a baby almost, marching in that parade with me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1532.0,1564.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: And she followed my career and supported me in every way. And the phone call that you reference is in–George Onorato was the state senator for Astoria for many, many years. And he was an old conservative Democrat Catholic Italian, and he was opposed to marriage equality. And the big push, of course, was for marriage equality. And the folks at Marriage Equality called me and said they had finally gotten a meeting with Senator Onorato, but they knew he was hard to get to and they had plenty gay activists, but what they didn't have was an older straight parent of a gay person who could appeal to George Onorato, who could be like, \"I'm just like you. I'm an old Astoria straight person, and I've got a kid who's gay and I'm appealing to you.\" And they said, your mom would be great. And I said, well, I don't know. I don't think she's ever done anything like this before, but I'll call her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1564.0,1633.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: And I called her—and she knew who George Onorato was, of course but I said, \"Would you go to the meeting? They want you in the meeting.\" And she said, \"Me?\" And I said, \"Yeah, you.\" And she said, \"Well, I don't know. I've never done anything like that before.\" And I said, \"I know, but you'd be great.\" And she said, \"Well, what should I say?\" And I said, \"Well, just tell 'em what you feel.\" And she said, \"I guess.\" And I said, \"It would be very helpful, mommy.\" And she was like, \"Then I'll do it.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1633.0,1659.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: And I have a great photo. They sent me a photo many years ago of her standing outside George Onorato's office with a bunch of LGBTQ activists after they had met with him. And I'm like, \"That's my mom!\" She did that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1659.0,1677.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Incredible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1677.0,1679.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: I think to your point, Jimmy, I wanted to backtrack. I didn't want to put the horse before the cart, but in terms of activists, I know your mom was a proud Union member through her work at the grocery store. Could you tell me a little bit about her union and her support for it and belief in that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1679.0,1706.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Sure. I think it was at Key Food that she was certainly a member of her union. I can't remember if she was a Pathmark as well. I'm not sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1706.0,1721.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: I don't remember. She was meat packers. It was the Meat Packers Union, I believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1721.0,1724.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Right? It was actually, it was a local that I think was not necessarily the Grocery Workers Union, but it was a union. Still none the same. And I think as Kim sort of alluded earlier, our mother was very working class, and she very much identified with other working class people—people who were struggling to make it, other women like herself who were raising kids, struggling to pay the rent, afford groceries. She knew that struggle very personally. And so I think she always believed in sort of fighting for the little person. Do you know what I mean? The little guy, the little girl. She was all about that. And I think mom, you know what I mean? She liked to be part of a group, whether it's her colleagues at the supermarket or her fellow Cub Scout den mothers or Boy Scout leaders or Girl Scout moms. I think she liked community. She really did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1724.0,1796.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1796.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: That's probably a good segue into her volunteerism in the Cub Scouts and the Girl Scouts. I wonder if you could tell me a little bit about her approach to her roles with the scouts as a community group. I understand she started some of the groups and was even one of the first female leaders of the Girl Scouts in your area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1800.0,1828.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Kim, do you want to talk a little bit about that, and I'll do the Boy Scouts?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1828.0,1832.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: She always put us into scouting. And I think, like Jimmy said earlier, we've all—is that—she was just a natural-born leader. And she was always present. So, she was just that person who showed up and they'd be like, \"Well, you'd be a great den mother.\" And then she became a den mother. And then like, \"Oh, you'd be a great brownie leader.\" She was there. People could just see her impact and feel her impact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1832.0,1862.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: And so that's where she just—people tapped her to—and she always said yes because she cared. And like Jimmy said, she was interested in community and loved community and knew—and like you were saying earlier, Mr. Engelman—about her mentoring, you mentor young children and you raise them up, and that was just what she did, and she did it so well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1862.0,1888.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Thank you, Kim. And of course, please, you can call me David.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1888.0,1894.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: When you think of your mom as a volunteer or with the scouts or in any of her activities, because I know she was active in the church and in various fundraising activities. Are there any memories that come to mind for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1894.0,1908.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: Well, I'd like to say something I was thinking about earlier when you were speaking, and then anybody can—is, our mom was not Catholic, as Jimmy said, but our dad was, and they obviously divorced. And even though our parents divorced, she continued raising us Catholic even though she was not. Which she—that was just who she was at the core.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1908.0,1934.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: And I remember her taking us to church, walking us to CCD, because back in the day—I'm not sure if I'm aging myself—we used to have a half day on Wednesdays to go to CCD. And I think Jimmy, we would come out of—we'd be released early—and she'd be waiting there at the gate, and she'd walk us up the block to St. Joe's. And it was just—she didn't have to do that. When our parents divorced, she could have just been like, \"I'm going to raise you Methodist.\" But she continued that promise and not only did she just say, \"Oh, go to church.\" She took us to church. She took us to CCD. And that's because of her. We wouldn't have done that on our own.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1934.0,1981.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Dawn and Debbie, do you have any favorite memories of mommy with Girl Scouts or just stuff?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1981.0,1985.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: Yeah, if you don't mind. I would say, I think possibly what—this is also a possibility—is that I think what drew my mother to the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts and all this is the sense of community. It was activities that she could bring her children to where we were part of the Boy Scouts or the Girl Scouts. There was the parents that sat on the side, and she had the adult conversations, but she enjoyed it. And that's what led her into becoming the den leader to the troop, because she enjoyed just being part of something that was outside of work, outside of her children, but also brought a lot of just personal entertainment and fun. And that's what she was about. She wanted to laugh. She wanted to have humor, and she wanted to just be part of the overall bigger picture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=1985.0,2039.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: One of the things that I can remember of her as the Den leader is the Halloween parties that they organized. I can remember her using a bullhorn when she lost her voice and she was still on go mode. She didn't cancel the meeting for the Cub Scouts or the Boy Scouts. She just improvised. She went and she got a bullhorn, and that's how she was able to be able to project to everyone that was in that room. And for such a shy woman—our mom was very shy—she was not one to be the first one to raise her hand or to jump up. But when she got up in front of that room, and she was that den leader, she was a powerful force. Everyone listened to her, and it showed that people respected her. She was comfortable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2039.0,2092.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: The den leaders of Boy Scouts are usually primarily men, and she was a woman, and she was able to say, \"I got this.\" And I think that for me as a young girl, it showed that I'm able to do anything. Whatever I decided that I wanted, because of how strong she was, I could do whatever I put my mind to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2092.0,2115.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: My greatest memory was—can you guys hear me? Am I on?— Okay, because I'm having really bad service.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2115.0,2123.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: But when I was in the Brownies, they were having their cookie sale, their Girl Scout cookie sale, and I remember the troop leader saying that if you won—if you sold the most cookies, you were able to get an award and you were able to go on stage. And I remember telling mom that I wanted to win that award, and she had everyone buy cookies. And I'll never forget the cookies came in and I actually won the award, and there was a night ceremony at PS 70, and they called me on stage because I had sold the most Girl Scout cookies. So, together she made that happen. I told her I wanted to win, and she definitely went all out and made that possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2123.0,2175.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: I wanted to just add, because this is so far my favorite part of the story, but I too remember our trips. Our mom used to coordinate the bus trips to Washington DC, and Philadelphia, and one of my lasting memories is her in the front seat of the bus because she always said she needed to see where the bus was going, which I think was also her way of being less afraid. But she was in control, and she was in front, and she was leading. And as a little boy sitting in the back of the bus with my friends, it was my mom who was in the front seat running the trip. She was the one in charge, and she put all that stuff together and organized those trips and brought all of these, whatever, dozens and hundreds of working class boys and girls from Astoria to see the nation's capital or to see historic sites in Philadelphia, things that maybe in some of us awakened our desires to serve in office or to be in government or to think about those sorts of things. And that was our mom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2175.0,2253.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: How many kids would be on that bus, Jimmy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2253.0,2256.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: It was a full bus, so I would say like 48 to 56 or something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2256.0,2263.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Were those day trips or were those—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2263.0,2265.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Yeah, you'd leave very early in the morning and get back at night, leaving from PS 70, I'm sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2265.0,2276.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: And Philly as well. She led—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2276.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2280.0,2287.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: What impact do you think your mom made, and you already, I believe touched on this, but that she made on the community as a mentor, an activist. You talked about, forgive me, the person that spoke at the naming ceremony and impacted their lives in terms of their current service and other young kids. Certainly her work with the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts, but I'm thinking just generally as you see it, her impact as it continues today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2287.0,2324.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: I would say just as she was modeling to us children and to children in the neighborhood, she was also modeling to other adults. Communities are stronger if people are active in them. They go to the parades. They go to the street festivals. They go to graffiti cleanups. They go to car washes that are fundraising for local organizations. They're in the Little League. And so, she was in all of that stuff. And when we formed the Friends of the Broadway branch of the Queens Public Library, which Dawn was initially on the board of, there she was too, right? Because she'd always taken her kids to the library. I worked for the library, so she was of course going to get involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2324.0,2372.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: So, I think someone's always got to be the first, and people often follow. So, if our mom was leading and being just so uber-present in all of these community organizations, she was also modeling that behavior for other adults and that people got active. And I think Astoria is a better place today because our mother lived there and was so active there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2372.0,2404.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: As a follow up, I did want to touch on your mom and her work with the Friends of the Broadway library and her association with the Queens Public Library and all of you. I'm just curious of any memories you have of your mother and the library, her work with the friends, you as young people, and her encouragement of your own studies and interactions with the library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2404.0,2435.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: I remember—I think I had just learned how to sign my name, and as soon as I was able to sign my name, I just remember her taking me to the library because on a library card, you had to sign your name on the back of the library card. So, it was just as soon as I could write my name. She was like, \"You could go get your library card.\" So, I just remember going very young and going and getting books, and I loved going to the library because it was just so quiet and peaceful and pleasant. So, she definitely started that feeling of my love for books to this day. So, that was my memory of her and myself being in the library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2435.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Dawn, do you have a library memory?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2490.0,2493.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: I will say that Kim's friend took me to get my library card, which upset mommy because mommy wanted to take me [laughter], but Kim's friend beat mommy to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2493.0,2503.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: So Carol Vodrazka is actually who took me to go get my library card.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2503.0,2508.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: I didn't know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2508.0,2509.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: Yeah, Carol Vodrazka took me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2509.0,2510.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: But one of my earliest memories is mommy taking us or me as children to the children part of the library that was upstairs, and they would have story time or little different activities, and we would sit on the rug and a lot of the parents would kind of drop their kids off and leave. But there was mom sitting on the little chair being part of whatever activity was at the library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2510.0,2540.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: But I remember her taking us to the library all the time, and my love of reading definitely stems from the library, and it's just part of who I am. And the library was a very big part of our lives when we were little, and that's because of our mom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2540.0,2558.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Kim, I want to talk about the [crosstalk] —","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2558.0,2560.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: — [crosstalk] I would say this succinct. I'm sorry. Were you saying Jimmy? Did I cut you off?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2560.0,2564.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: No, I said I wanted to end with a story about her as an advocate, but I wanted you to say something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2564.0,2567.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: Yeah, but I agree. I remember going to the Broadway Library from the time I was a young kid, and fun—like Dawn was saying the children's room was upstairs. And I remember going back as an adult maybe 10 years ago, and it sounds corny, but I had to look out the stairwell window looking out at Broadway because countless times coming at like 5, 6, 7 years old, looking out that window at Broadway and watching the people walk by, it just brought back so many memories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2567.0,2600.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: And I agree. When my kids were younger, I took them to library programs and—okay, you can write your name. Let's get a library card. I still have a library card. 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And one of my favorite pictures is of me leading that march, but you can see my mom—our mom—right behind me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2622.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: So, she was there for the rallies. She was there to fight for libraries. She was always present. And then the Friends of the Library—we started that chapter in 1999. Again, Dawn was very active in that, but my mom was there as well. 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Just a follow up, I'm curious, what did your mother like to read?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2703.0,2711.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: The newspaper [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2711.0,2714.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: Yeah, the newspaper. Hundred percent. She got the Daily News and the New York Post every day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2714.0,2723.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: I remember her being a magazine reader. She was more of a—more than a book reader. She would get Women's Day and those magazines, and I remember there being a stack of magazines when we were kids and reading them. We didn't give her enough time to read a book [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2723.0,2747.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: I was going to say, I don't think she had a lot of time to read books, but I will also add that one of the things that she would always buy every week at the grocery store was TV Guide.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2747.0,2761.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: And I love TV Guide to this day, not that I still read it, but every time I see an old issue on eBay or something like that, I'm like, \"I bet we read that cover to cover.\" Because she always had it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2761.0,2775.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: But I'll just say, seriously, she bought the Daily News and the New York Post every single morning, and then I would read the paper after she was done with it at some point during the day. And I fell in love with sports and statistics, but her buying the paper every single day and us having newspapers in the house every single day definitely helped lead me to read the papers every day and to be curious about the world, to learn more about the world, and ultimately to get active myself in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2775.0,2810.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: I would second that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2810.0,2817.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: So more of the modeling in a sense, even in the reading department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2817.0,2826.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: I wonder if this is maybe a good moment in terms of your mom's interests, but just to kind of move into life in Queens, because in what I was reading about your mom, there was so much about the day-to-day life in the borough that she really loved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2826.0,2845.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: How would you describe her connection, just say to the borough? It's certainly a lifelong connection. I mean, she lived in Maspeth, Corona. You said there was a short period in Brooklyn, but then it was Woodside briefly and then Astoria, I think. But I want to hear how you might describe her connection to her borough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2845.0,2871.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: I think Queens was her safe place. Queens was home, right? It's where she found her roots. It's where she built her family. I think that it represented who she was as a person. It's where she had her family. It's where she felt the most safe. She knew all of Queens. If she could walk from one end to the other, she knew how to get there. 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And she was just that person that anybody, no matter who you were, she could talk to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2954.0,2991.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: But she instilled that love of Queens in all of us. I don't live in Queens anymore, but I still consider, even though I've been up living where I live in Rockland County for 36 years, I come over the Triborough Bridge and I'm like, I'm home. And I think she really just instilled that in us as well, that this is where my roots are. Like Dawn was saying, this is where our roots are. You're always where your core base is. And Queens will always be that base.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=2991.0,3021.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: I would add as somehow the only one who still lives in Queens of this group. I don't how that happened, but—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3021.0,3034.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: My husband moved me [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3034.0,3036.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: Same [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3036.0,3038.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: You all have similar story. 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Maybe he'll—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3058.0,3061.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: Is he going to get booted off for a second maybe and come back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3061.0,3064.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Yeah. And then we can let him back in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3064.0,3068.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: Yeah. That kept happening to me. [crosstalk]—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3068.0,3073.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: — [crosstalk] but I was just going to say Steinway Street. 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We got you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3116.0,3117.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Hello?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3117.0,3118.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: We got you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3118.0,3119.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: Can you hear us?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3119.0,3123.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: We got you, Jimmy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3123.0,3124.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Okay. I'm still there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3124.0,3125.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Anyway, she used to walk to play bingo at Queen of Angels Church in Sunnyside. 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She never had her driver's license?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3199.0,3204.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Nope.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3204.0,3204.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: She did have a driver's license.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3204.0,3205.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3205.0,3206.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: She did get her driver's license later in life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3206.0,3209.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: Later on in life, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3209.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: Much later in life. Actually, when I was getting married is about the time that she got her driver's license. And she would drive me to my dress appointments in her car. I wish—I don't even know what year that car was, but it was definitely an older car. But she was so proud of herself that she got that driver's license. She was very, very proud. But much later in life did she get that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: That's right. When we were little, we never had a car. But Dawn's right. 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Yeah, I want to say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3256.0,3257.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: I want to say fifties.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3257.0,3260.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3260.0,3262.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: How did she do with parking? Did your mother ever talk about parking?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3262.0,3266.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: Better than me. No [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3266.0,3272.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: She was very sensitive about this issue, [laughter] which fair play to her. And I don't think now is the time to assess her driving, but she did the best that she could and she achieved her life goal of driving a car for a couple of years. Let's put it that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3272.0,3295.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: It really was for just a couple of years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3295.0,3297.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: Yeah, it was. But you know what she should be very proud. She drove me. My dress shop was all the way in New Jersey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3297.0,3305.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: That I remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3305.0,3305.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: For someone who Queens was her whole life, she drove us from Astoria over the George Washington Bridge to New Jersey. She did well. There may have been some moments where we may have been a little scared, but she did it. She took herself out of the box and was like, \"I'm going to get her to that dress appointment no matter what.\" And she got me there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3305.0,3341.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: And Dawn, do you think that was an impetus for her getting her driver's license in particular?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3341.0,3346.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: No. I think she got her driver's license a few years before I had even been engaged. I think that she saw it for herself as just a personal goal. Everyone else was driving and had a driver's license, and I think it was just something that she said to herself was like, \"You know what? I'm going to get it. I'm going to do the work, and I'm going to,\" and she did. I remember the day she got her— I remember the day she passed her road test and how proud she was of herself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3346.0,3384.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Thank you. I want to be mindful of everyone's time, but there could be much more to cover.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3384.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: Yeah, I do have to go, guys. I do apologize. I got to go back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3390.0,3396.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Thank you, Debbie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3396.0,3397.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: Thank you for having me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3397.0,3398.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: See you later, Debbie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3398.0,3399.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: See you later, Debbie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3399.0,3399.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: Love you. Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3399.0,3402.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Thank you [crosstalk]—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3402.0,3402.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: — [crosstalk] I can hang out for a little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3402.0,3404.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: —for a minute or two. Or sorry, go ahead, Jimmy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3404.0,3407.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: I'm good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3407.0,3407.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: I can hang out for a little bit longer. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3407.0,3409.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Thank you. I just wanted to ask one more question on life in Queens and then give you all an opportunity for other memories or experiences you might want share that my questions really didn't touch on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3409.0,3423.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: But what would you say might be some of the neighborhood traditions or events and gatherings that she loved most? I know there was the street parties, the barbecues, the car washes, anything, any personal memory maybe that comes to mind around her life in Queens that your mom enjoyed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3423.0,3446.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: Like Jimmy was saying that she liked to laugh. And I remember we lived, one of the apartments was 43-03, 31st Avenue, and they would play Pokeno. She would invite some women over and they would play Pokeno. They'd sit at the kitchen table and they'd play with pennies, and they'd have their red little place mats, place things, and they'd have dance parties. Jimmy's been looking through some old pictures and sharing pictures, and they would have dance parties in our living room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3446.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: And it was just like a meeting place and a place to get together. And that stands out with me is that she always found time to have fun and always made people feel special, whether birthday parties. That's something that I think we've all got that instilled in us about remembering people's birthdays and just celebrating, finding reasons to celebrate. 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I remember her having this stream of friends that would come over, and they would dance, and they would laugh, and the kids were in the other room and we'd come running in and out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3528.0,3561.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: But I think mom really enjoyed just being part of Queens and just whatever she could go to—or even the street fairs. The one last time we used to have a live band that would play, and I remember going with her to the street fair, and then we would just listen to the music for a little while, and then she was like, \"Okay, we can go.\" But she loved everything. She loved it all. 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And voila, you had a big party where everybody in the neighborhood came to our apartment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3593.0,3635.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: And we never had a house. We always either rented in a house, briefly on Newtown Road and then lived in apartments. But there we would be sitting around in the living room, crowded or in the backyard, which we had access to, but that was with no money. These were all working class people, but people that came, she found a way to make that joy for us, but also for other people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3635.0,3666.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: And then I would also say in terms of things that she really liked to do, St. Joe's was the church that we went to as kids, and they always had an annual bizarre. And they're actually having it again in a couple of weeks. I passed by recently, and they're advertising for it. But there would be rides for the kids, and vendors and stuff, and they close the street or whatever. And she loved that stuff. She looked forward to it. She always brought us, and obviously the street fairs parades.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3666.0,3701.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: And if someone was getting married in Astoria, Queens, our mom would find that bride because she loved watching the brides come out of the church after they got married. So, if she saw the makings of a wedding happening, she would sort of bring us and make us wait until it was time, because she just loved happiness and joy, and she loved being happy for people she didn't even know half the time. But she was just very in tune with those sorts of things. And she found them, and then she found joy in other people's happiness, which is—you can't say that about everybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3701.0,3752.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: I want to say thank you to all of you for taking the time today. It's been such a pleasure to hear more about your mom and to get to go with you on this journey and your mother's incredible life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3752.0,3765.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Before we leave, I just want to give you a moment if there's anything you'd like to share about this experience or a final thought or memory that you have about your mom. I just want to give you that opportunity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3765.0,3778.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Dawn? Kim?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3778.0,3781.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: I think for me, our mom was always a source of strength. And even on days where we didn't think that we were strong, she was always like, \"You are.\" Right? She always, always made sure that we knew that we were loved, we were important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3781.0,3804.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: For me, our mom retired so that I could pursue my career, which, if she didn't, I don't know who would've watched my children? But she gave up something that she found joy in to make sure that I could do something. And I think on a lot of my own personal struggles, my mother was there to be my biggest cheerleader to make sure that I knew that it would be okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3804.0,3837.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Kim?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3837.0,3839.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: No, everything Dawn said. And with our mom, what she gave to us, and like Jimmy said, we've all said, the example on so many different levels, so many different tiers. She was so unbelievable. And if I can be half of who she was to as many people as she was, I'd be happy with that because she was just that force of nature, and she gave so much to all of us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3839.0,3879.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: But to me, it's like I said, even something like Dawn said earlier, the small things. And they say sometimes there are no small things. It was just everything, like sending somebody a card. She was just so thoughtful, so in tune with everything. Like Jimmy was saying, it's like even though we didn't have much, she had a home where everyone was welcome. I had friends in high school that I would bring home with me. I mean, I have a friend for 40-some-odd years, and I've, to this day, never set foot in any house that she's lived in. But yet our mom opened up our humble home to everybody. And that's the impact that she's left. And her legacy of love and inclusion, her empathy, everything—she was just—anything that's good in the world was mom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3879.0,3945.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Yeah. I want to [crosstalk] — I'm sorry, Kim.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3945.0,3949.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kim Foskew: Sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3949.0,3949.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: I just wanted to share one thing as a parting thought, because to the extent that I made history in Queens as one of the first out gay members of the New York City Council, my mom shares in that success because I don't happen without her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3949.0,3972.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: And as evidence of that, the day that I won the primary for the first time was September 15th, 2009. And I remember that my mom started that day at six o'clock in the morning in the Queensbridge Houses because she had made some friends there. When we went to see senior centers, we thought the best place for her would be to open at Queensbridge. And then midday, we took a picture, and I'm grateful for this photo—I don't know who took it—outside PS 199 in Sunnyside. So, she had been working all day at various polling sites with a T-shirt that said, \"Vote for my son, Jimmy Van Bramer.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=3972.0,4014.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: And then I saw her midday at PS 199. She worked 15 straight hours at the polls that day until the polls closed at 9:00 PM. And of course, I would go on to win. And sometime around 10:00 PM, I got to the victory party, and I walked up Skillman Avenue in Sunnyside—my sisters were there—and obviously we were overjoyed. And I saw my mother standing outside Aubergine Cafe, and everyone was cheering, and it was a great moment, but she couldn't contain herself. And so she burst from the crowd, and she ran towards me and hugged me, and that was my mom. She worked 15 straight hours at the polls so I could win.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=4014.0,4068.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Incredible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=4068.0,4072.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Engelman: Listen, thank you again to all of you. It's been such an honor to be here, to hear all of these fantastic stories about your mom, an incredible person. And I myself look forward to visiting Elizabeth White Marcum Way very soon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=4072.0,4092.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jimmy Van Bramer: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=4092.0,4093.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Debbie Pavlidis: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=4093.0,4094.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028/transcript/87892/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Vartholomeos: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/164303/file/299028#t=4094.0,4095.96"}]}]}]}