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All right. All right. My name is Tiffany Lim. It is February 26th, 2020. We are in an apartment 2140 45th Ave in Long Island City and I'm interviewing Audrey—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2.0,23.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Gottlieb.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=23.0,23.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Gottlieb. Great. Audrey, thank you for joining me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=23.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: You're most welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=29.0,31.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: So I did read through the interview summary that you gave me. You've lived in Queens for a while, and you're involved right now in the Long Island City Artists. So just tell me a little bit about your introduction to Queens and how you felt, what you saw, kind of the community back then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=31.0,53.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Okay. The first time I came to Queens was in the 1960s for the World's Fair. I came with my best friend and her mother, and we were there for one day, and we ate Belgian waffles [laughs], and did all the things that kids in those days did. Then I didn't come back to Queens until sometime in the late 1970s, and that was as a UN [United Nations] staff worker. I joined the tennis club. And the tennis courts were at Flushing Meadows, so I took the subway out with my colleagues, played tennis, and went back to Manhattan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=53.0,112.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Did that about twice or three times, and then I didn't see Queens again until the mid 1980s. The way I discovered Queens was by living on Roosevelt Island and walking across the bridge. So that was my introduction to eventually living in Queens. I moved to Astoria in, oh boy, 19—what did I tell you? 1981.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=112.0,151.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: 1981 to—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=151.0,151.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: 1981. And I lived at 34-32 33rd Street [laughs]. At that time, the Kaufman Astoria movie studios were just being refurbished, so I used to like to go over there and watch movies and watch the refurbishment of the old buildings and learn the history. So I joined the Greater Astoria Historical Society because I always joined historical societies wherever I live in order to learn the history of the place. So, at that time, I was working—I must have been working for the UN because I worked for the UN from 1973 until I finally left in 2007. There were a lot of ins and outs, ins and outs from the organization.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=151.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: But I was working as a freelance photographer for the Western Queens Gazette. Did I mention that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=210.0,218.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Mmm-hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=218.0,220.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: So that was really my introduction to Western Queens. And as a photographer, I carried two sets of equipment. I carried one for the newspaper and one for myself so that I could take my own pictures, because I'm very passionate about photography, and I had my own views on not only getting that one picture to tell the story but getting a little bit deeper into the neighborhoods. And through that, I would say one of the best things that I discovered were the immigrant communities living here, pretty much the established communities before the big wave started coming at the turn of the century. So, I'm planning to show you some of those photographs that have been published, other than in the newspaper, but in books and journals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=220.0,284.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: So I'll try to describe them. The one that really sent me reeling was the Feast of the Giglio, which is an Italian American festival that took place year after year. It was brought over by ancestors of people from the Naples area. And they had this celebration where I got to know all the families that were putting it on. In order to support that festival, they needed to have commercial enterprises like vendors selling cannolis and all kinds of Italian food. And it was by donation as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=284.0,340.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: But the high point of the festival was a hundred men, all men, lifting a 92 foot wooden tower with a 14 piece band. And you can stop me if you, if this is a story you've heard before, because—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=340.0,359.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: No, please go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=359.0,361.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: The 14 piece band played, and I got to know the people who were playing in the band. I got to know the people who led this procession. And by the third year that I was photographing it, they actually let a woman lead the march. What they do is they take this tower, they decorate it with the saint of Paolino. He's a wooden saint. He's painted and he's way up at the top. And there are men who hold ropes to make sure that this 92 foot tower doesn't tip because there are a hundred men underneath and they all have to work in unison.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=361.0,409.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: So when the person who's giving the order to dance the Giglio—the Giglio is the tower, but it really means lily, and I'll tell you why it takes that name—it, they would, the band would start playing, and the person with the baton, the capo, would have them lift this tower and march it down the street. It was over by St. Rita's on 12th Street. And they would march it until she would say drop it, and then they would all drop it at the same moment. So it was a real feat of unison.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=409.0,460.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: And I loved photographing it because they allowed me to get really close and I could see the expressions of the martyrs, because it's in a way an expression of martyrdom, as martyrdom actually runs a lot through my work of different nationalities and immigrant groups. But this particular one, the shoulders of the men were red, red, red, from the weight of the tower, and their expressions were priceless. And of course, they were very macho, so [laughs] I enjoyed documenting that a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=460.0,507.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: And then I noticed, as I started documenting other communities—the next one being the Hindu community in Richmond Hill—that there were similar threads of family, of feasting, of processions, and like I say of martyrdom. I didn't see that much martyrdom in the Hindu processions, but I did later on get to see it in the Muslim processions, which I photographed several years in a row as well on Main Street, Flushing. So, this was—my entrance into Queens was really photographic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=507.0,559.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: And you said that you had spent a time photographing a lot of immigrant communities. Loved hearing about the Italian part. Can you maybe elaborate on what else that you saw in the Queens community? What else you photographed and how that showed up in your art?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=559.0,576.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Sure. Well, I photographed—in the mornings I used to play tennis at Astoria Park, and my coach was an Indian man who introduced me to his family and began to take me to his place of worship. And through him, I got to know about the Hindu celebrations and the diaspora. Also the Padwa, which is a rite of spring. So I photographed that for several years in a row. That's some of my best work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=576.0,620.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: What I found interesting was that there was a lot of mingling between the Indian faiths. So you would think maybe that people from the Sikh temple wouldn't go—like in the old country—to the new, to the Hindu temple, but in fact that's not at all the case. There's a lot of mingling and intermarriage. So I had a lot of fun photographing [laughs] a wedding that was a Sikh man marrying a Hindu woman. So they used all the traditions from the two religions. I'm really fascinated by tradition and ritual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=620.0,678.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: I also photographed the Muslim Ashura on Main Street, which is where a lot of the marchers flagellate themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=678.0,700.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: What, I'm so sorry, what does that mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=700.0,704.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: To flagellate is to beat yourself until you are bleeding. In the old country, they use chains. It's a form of martyrdom and it is the commemoration of the splitting of the Shia and Sunni sects of Islam. They have a day of prayer, and they carry a replica of the tomb of the grandson of the prophet. So it was pretty interesting. I mean, I often like to get right into what's happening, but I also like to see what's going on, on the periphery.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=704.0,761.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: And for me, that particular celebration is fascinating because it goes along Main Street, Flushing, which has every nationality you can imagine, and people gawk. I mean, they just don't have a clue what is going on when this tomb with people and people flagellating themselves goes by. So that is another. Also on Main Street, I photographed the Lunar New Year. I lived in Flushing for a lot, many years, and finally, finally, finally left Flushing in 2018. So that was a tradition, and I saw it when it was just a little, little, little parade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=761.0,811.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: And some of that work was acquired by the Museum of Chinese in America. My work has gone to lots of museums because this is my beat, immigration in the borough of Queens, for 25 years plus. And then there are our 200th anniversary of the U.S. Constitution Parade. So I have ladies dressed in Maltese costume, politicians dressed in, you know, colonial costume, and, oh, all sorts of hundreds and hundreds of thousands of images over the years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=811.0,854.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: So you mentioned that martyrdom is a theme that you use throughout your photography, and especially in the immigration community. Just curious to ask why that is something that you kind of decided to focus on, and how the Queens community really showcased that for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=854.0,874.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Well, it's not only the martyrdom, but it's also the feasting. It's also the marching in procession. It's also the celebration of family. But there are certain themes. Those are the major ones that come across. I don't know, maybe it just struck me as something different because I grew up in the country on a farm and I wasn't exposed to [laughs] any of this kind of ritual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=874.0,922.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Yeah. And then in terms of immigration communities within Queens, how have you seen, I guess, that change throughout the years? Because you have lived in Queens since, what I see here, in 1981 to 2018. I would love to hear how you think the Queens community has changed, not necessarily immigration-community-wise, but I know that's a very big part of the Queens community. So I'd love to hear your take and view on that as well. And if that's incorporated in your art, I'd love to hear that too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=922.0,959.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: It's in my artist statement. It is definitely—it's changed so much. It was a very provincial borough when I first discovered it with my eyes. It didn't have color. It was—I see color and I see gesture, and it didn't appear to have any of that. It just seemed to be lots and lots of buildings, brown buildings, and some houses in some communities. But as I started to learn from the Historical Society meetings—Vincent Seyfried, who wrote the authoritative book about the history of Queens—I went to places that he mentioned in his book. And I went to places that Jeffrey Kroessler mentioned in his book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=959.0,1028.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: And they were wall murals or places where famous people had lived. Celebrities. I learned—Oscar Hammerstein. And through exploring places where people lived, I learned more about the neighborhoods. And so those neighborhoods, which were really quiet on the outside, became very vibrant. I think immigration has made Queens vibrant. And I don't think ever a Kitty Genovese kind of event could happen again, but—I would hope not [laughter]—but that was kind of how it felt in the old days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1028.0,1094.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: I enjoyed taking the subway. The subways in those days, even the El stations, were above ground. So, in Astoria, 30, 36th Avenue was my stop. 30, I mean, I lived between 36th Avenue and Broadway, so those are the two stops that I use most of all. And that stop was painted bright blue. It was such a pretty color against the sky. So that changed because they made it beige, or maybe it was vice versa [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1094.0,1131.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: But little by little, you know, it was a mom and pop borough. I did receive a grant, one of three to document—my proposal was to call it hometown storefronts so that I could document little mom and pop stores that owners had given names of the country or the town they came from. So, I don't know, I guess it's still like that. I passed, on the way here today, the Punjab Auto Mechanic. But there used to be, I mean, in my series, I did the Georgia Bakery and Deli, and the Dhaka Restaurant. So I enjoyed that. Now I see big changes with, in Flushing certainly, with the mall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1131.0,1193.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: And you mentioned your grants. I'd love to hear a little bit more about—you had kind of touched upon the first one with the mom [and pop stores], but I'd love to hear a little bit more about what you did, what you captured, in that particular project, and also the other two grants as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1193.0,1212.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Okay. Well, the first one was called Queens: A Photographer's View. And it was exhibited at the Queens Historical, yeah, Queens Historical Society in Flushing. And that was probably 1991. And in that show—which kept repeating itself over the years, and it morphed because it just kept getting bigger, bigger. So I had what I was describing to you about the Italians, the Muslims, the Chinese, the Koreans, the fan dancers. A lot of my material was done at the Queens Botanical Garden because I love hanging out in parks and outdoor spaces. I had a very close relationship with them. They were the sponsor for one of those grants, I believe the third one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1212.0,1275.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: The first one, the sponsor was called A Way Out. It was—how can we describe it? When people have addictions, they, as they go through, you know, when they're getting better, rehab, I forget what the word is. Anyway, so A Way Out helped those people. So I had a really good relationship with people from A Way Out, and they loved my work, and I loved working with them. So that show was at the Queens Historic Society. It was, like I said, the 200th anniversary of the U.S. Constitution [unclear] the Maltese, the Italians, the Chinese, the—if I had the, you know, the list, I have all my lists here with me, it's easier to look.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1275.0,1326.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: No, I just thought of a good story, actually. So that was the first grant. The second one was Hometown Storefronts. I don't remember who sponsored me for that one. And then—and so I got to meet shop owners. It was kind of fun because a lot of that was food, and I'm a foodie. Then the third one was—I can't remember. I have to look at my artist statement, my bio, but it was about Queens. And I think that one—oh, Where in the World. It was called Where In the World because it was, like, where in the world am I?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1326.0,1367.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: [laughter] Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1367.0,1369.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: And that was, like, Queens Theatre in the Park. So I established a good relationship with Jeff [Jeffrey Rosenstock], who was the director at that time, and Willy [Willy Mosquera], whom I continue to see at the U.S. Tennis Open because the same people keep, you know, around. So those are the three grants. And I keep real active in the photographic community, internationally and Manhattan-wise. So I go to, every year, a conference. It's called the Association of International Photographic Art Dealers. And one year, one of the speakers talked about a project that she was putting together on immigration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1369.0,1430.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: So I went up to her afterward, and we talked, and she said, \"Please don't send me any pictures of children. I have so many pictures of children in costume. I don't need anymore.\" So I sent her a lot of pictures—not of children—and they accepted five of them into a major show that traveled from—well, it, I can tell you that was the highlight of my life because it went everywhere from Ellis Island to the Jewish Museum to Museum of Contemporary Photography, San Diego, from west to east. It was on the Charles Kuralt show. So, I feel really proud of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1430.0,1478.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: And one of those photos in that show was of a Hindu priest from Flushing. He's no longer alive, but I'm in touch with his daughter still 'cause when I lived in Flushing, I would go to the Bowne Street temple. I like to learn about religions, and so sometimes I think I'm another religion. I like to pick and choose. I've even signed a secret oath in one temple [laughs], which, that's another story. But at the Hindu Temple, I—oh, it was on assignment with the Queens Council on the Arts. The folklore director sent me off to interview—to photograph a festival.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1478.0,1531.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: It was the Diwali, festival of lights, but it was the precursor to the nighttime festival. It was a daytime thing that was happening where he, the priest, and his wife and his daughter held, along with some other congregants, at St. John's University—there's a high school auditorium—and they said prayers on the stage and broke coconuts on the stage. And so I love the color and the chanting and the—everything glitters. You know, they use a lot of tinsel and flowers, and the fragrances are so nice as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1531.0,1594.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: So I followed them all day long. I watched them take the gods and the goddesses from the high school. It was actually—well, it was at St. John's, but it was Bowne High School or something. And they put them in cardboard boxes and then they put them in the backseat of the car and drove these gods and goddesses down to the Flushing Meadow Lake, where they parked the car and then they took the gods and the goddesses out of the cardboard boxes. And the daughter stood on a rock next to the water and rang a bell. She had mehndi. Do you know this—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1594.0,1646.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: I don't. I'm not too familiar, unfortunately.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1646.0,1649.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: It's—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1649.0,1649.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Oh, henna?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1649.0,1651.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Henna. Right. Henna. So she had henna designs on her feet. And so she took off her shoes and she had the henna designs on her feet, standing on a rock, ringing a bell, invoking the gods. And the reason they did this was because in the old country, in India, this is what they did at four o'clock in the afternoon. So her father, who was dressed in nothing but a loin cloth [laughs], carried the elephant god Ganesha, who's the remover of obstacles, into Meadow Lake. At exactly four o'clock, he held the god in his hands—it's made of terracotta—and chanted in Sanskrit, just like they would've done in the old country. And then he placed this terracotta elephant god in the water, because it was not very deep—so it actually sat in the mud—and left it there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1651.0,1716.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: The symbolism is that the Hindus believe in reincarnation, so there's a life-death cycle. And this elephant god would have become part of the bed of the lake because it was made of clay, and then with the hot weather it would evaporate and form a cloud, and then the cloud would form rain that would come back down to the lake. So I really enjoyed that assignment [laughs] a lot. I learned so much. And then one day I was going to work at the UN and I was on the number 7 train and I see a man who looked so familiar. He was wearing glasses and a suit. And I know I know that man. I just don't know how I know him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1716.0,1778.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: And finally, it dawned on me. It was the Hindu priest, but he was in clothing and glasses. So I asked him, are you Mr. Rao [phonetic]? And he said, yes, I am. And then I told him how I had used his photograph in a major exhibition and made a postcard from it. And he came to the house, he brought his family, and we—I gave a whole bunch of his pictures. And he's no longer alive. His wife is alive. His daughter is in touch. And that was just a beautiful, beautiful person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1778.0,1818.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Oh, wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1818.0,1819.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1819.0,1820.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: That's awesome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1820.0,1821.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Yeah. So these are just little stories. I don't know if they have any meaning for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1821.0,1826.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: No, they are. Absolutely. I think what's really great is hearing about how, because through your art, you're now learning this and creating connections and making your own community. And if you have any other stories that have really stuck with you like that—'cause I definitely see the way your face lights up when you talk about it—I would love to hear kind of more about that and more stories that really have stuck with you in your life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1826.0,1855.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Okay. It helps me to look at the images and they generate—I don't know if you want to turn that off for a second or keep it going [pause].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1855.0,1893.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: If you wanna bring it over, feel free.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1893.0,1894.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Okay. Yeah [pause].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1894.0,1915.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: This reminds me of tai chi. I love doing tai chi. And at the Queens Botanical Garden, every morning I would go out with, at that time they were the old folks, but now I'm one of them [laughs], and I made friends with a lot of the women and the man who, two of the men, who led tai Chi exercises. Loved watching fan dance especially, and the music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1915.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: There was just something so wonderful about getting up early in the morning and going through the exercises, and then the breathing, and then just listening to sounds, and watching movement and feeling movement in a beautiful environment. So, yeah, these are a lot of photos that were used in the Queens Botanical Garden. And, let's see [pause].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1950.0,1996.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: So I guess through all of your photography projects and the kind of experiences you've documented, what do you think, you know, you as a person, you've learned or how you've grown by being a part of all this? And also as your art, how has your art grown by being able to be present, especially, you know, you mentioned this ritual here that I think you probably would've only been involved with if not for your art. So how has that really impacted your life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=1996.0,2030.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Tremendously. I don't know whether it was working for the UN that pushed me to learn more about the world, but I think it was the other way around, honestly. Growing up on a farm where, I mean, it was just sandy New Jersey [laughs] and a lot of trees. So [interrupted by the sound of wind chimes]—should I—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2030.0,2064.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Yeah [pause].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2064.0,2075.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: [unclear]. What was I saying about—yeah. So, it also helped me through my work and traveling. I feel like, you know, the world is one big family. So, what can I tell you about my art? It is what it is. I'm very trusting and open. And I put myself in another person's shoes because we all have the same desires, you know, in life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2075.0,2133.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: It's about love, it's about family, it's about the outdoors, it's about feasting, and routines and history. So somehow these things all come together and—I'm trying to think of another [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2133.0,2165.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: No worries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2165.0,2166.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Something interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2166.0,2167.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: We can actually pivot. Looking kind of at your history in Queens, you lived in Astoria, Long Island City, Flushing. Do you wanna maybe just tell me about the three different neighborhoods, kind of what you saw within those communities? Any interesting, or things that really stuck out with you while living in those three neighborhoods at that time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2167.0,2192.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Hmm. Well, Astoria, like I said, I had been living in Greece twelve years off and on, and I needed to feel that environment, so I moved to Astoria. It—I just remember the cafe life and living on a second floor rear apartment where everybody's laundry was hanging out on the lines in the backyard. People had little gardens. And I thought that was so wonderful in the city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2192.0,2243.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: The number N, it was the N train at that time, which had the worst service [laughter]. It would drive me crazy because I was always late wherever I was trying to go. But I liked that rickety sound above the ground being on the train. Didn't much like going around that curve at Queens Plaza. I still don't [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2243.0,2283.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: So Astoria was like, I don't know, it was just like—it's a community. It's so different from Manhattan. It's authentic. It's genuine. I love the mom and pop stores. I—you could know people in your neighborhood, mostly shopkeepers. And I substitute taught at one point. So the school was across the street. Photographed a lot there on the playground. And I had a good friend at the other end of Astoria who was from Cyprus, where I'd spent four years with the UN peacekeeping, and she ran the Cyprus educational organization. So we did a lot of collaboration. Poetry, music, art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2283.0,2347.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: What—would you maybe go into a little more about what you and your friend collaborated on and what that looked like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2347.0,2354.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Yeah. She wrote—I didn't bring that book, but she wrote a book called [unclear]. And she used one of my photographs from the Parthenon in Athens of a warrior. Her daughter—she's no longer alive. She was a wonderful, wonderful, warm person. And through her, I started going to the Cypriot festival at Bohemian Hall every year. And then I started going to more festivals at Bohemian Hall. The Czech Festival, the—all those festivals. Her daughter is a radio personality, Elena Marouletti, and so she carries on the tradition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2354.0,2413.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Lucy and I just—we talked about art. Music, art, those kinds of things. Astoria—she had a house like around 29th Street, Crescent Street, and then she introduced me to people in her community. And I had a show at the Greek Cultural Center over there. So I had a really—a lot of nice people I knew in the Astoria community. Tony Moroney [phonetic]. And it was such a different place politically, just—it couldn't be more different today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2413.0,2465.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Would you tell me a little bit about the show that you—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2465.0,2468.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: About the show over there? They were hand colored photographs. I worked in black and white and in color. So most of my work is either black and white—they're 35 millimeter black and white negatives, which are still sitting in the files because not everything has been printed. And then I have 35 millimeter slides, mostly Kodachrome. Kodachrome 24, Kodachrome 64, 25, Kodachrome 64, and those are also sitting in the closet. They're categorized, but they haven't all been printed, so I want them to go somewhere, before I go [laughs]. The—what was I saying? You had asked me—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2468.0,2527.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: About your show?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2527.0,2528.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Oh, that show. Yeah. So that show was—I printed up a lot of the black and white negatives of Greece and Cyprus. They're—and then I color them by hand with Marshall's oils, and pencils. So I don't do coloring online. You know, I'm just old fashioned. I like to—the process is beautiful for me, and sometimes I even teach people how to do that. So they were pictures of shepherds, of sheep, of village life in the old country. Pictures of celebration, of holidays, of kite flying, of drinking wine, of vineyards, of people, families cooking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2528.0,2587.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Would you say a lot of your photography revolved around people as your subjects?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2587.0,2593.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Yeah, definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2593.0,2594.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Interesting. And why did you decide to focus and use that in your art?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2594.0,2599.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: I really like people. Sometimes I'm very quiet, but I think to myself that it's really important to have conversation. I mean, meaningful conversation [laughs], not just, you know, chatter. 'Cause it's a good way to learn why are we here. I think that's why we're here, you know, to learn from each other, to share experiences. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2599.0,2644.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: And then maybe if you can elaborate more on the community that you met in Queens, and the artists that you've met, the other artists that you've collaborated with, and kind of just the art community in general while you were at Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2644.0,2661.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Yeah. Right. Well, when I left the apartment in Astoria, I moved to Long Island City. I lived [laughs] here on 5-28 47th Road and it was an old, like, a hat factory that had been converted. The bottom was—it was no longer a hat factory. This was before all those high rises. So this would've been 1990, '91. By the way, I did photograph the groundbreaking for Queens West.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2661.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Oh, wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2700.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Yeah. And that was with the Gazette probably. But I do have color pictures of Cuomo and all the dignitaries digging the earth and then the buildings going up. But living on 5-28 47th Road was really wonderful for me. I did stay sometimes overnight even though we were not supposed to [laughs] live in, because there was no hot water. You know, the facilities were very simple. And I had a little studio on the second floor along with five or six other artists. It had been subdivided by the over-tenant, I think he called himself, because the hat factory downstairs was turned into an electric company. So it was a business downstairs, but upstairs we were six artists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2700.0,2759.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Miles Chapin. I don't know if you know Miles. His father had been the Director of Cultural Affairs—Schuyler Chapin—for the City of New York. He used it to write. [Beth Williams Garrett] used it to design shoes that later were produced in Brazil. Janet Gasson made things that hovered between sculpture and paper. Things that hung, but they weren't thin, they were somehow textured. And John Clan [phonetic] was the over-tenant. He painted. Ed Myers [phonetic], another photographer. Kyoko [phonetic], a Japanese painter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2759.0,2819.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Donna Stewart [phonetic] painted really large—as large as that wall—flowers. Big, big flowers. Very happy [laughs] things. And she took me in when I didn't have a place to stay. At one point, she lived on Jackson Ave on 21st Street, so I stayed there for a while because I couldn't sleep in the [laughs] studio. Then I found a place on 49th Street, so I stayed there for a while. And then that person got engaged, so I had to leave there, and it was hopping around a lot [laughs]. But the artists, my best friends were Elinore Schnurr—you might know Elinore. She's pretty well known in the community. She's a wonderful painter. Still lives here. She's in her eighties now, working every day. And in fact, she's going to be in this show that's opening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2819.0,2883.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: So also my friend Karen Fitzgerald will be in that show at Town Hall. And Cristian Pietrapiana is a painter, and he curated this show, and he made these paintings because he lives in this house [laughter]. But I met him and Orestes [Gonzalez] much later on after I'd moved away. But my closest friends were Elinore Schnurr and, gee, Dennis D'Amelio, and Mary Didoardo, and Jim Sunderland. I think that was his name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2883.0,2938.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: And in those days, this area was really—artists were tucked away. There were no high rises. None [laughter]. But there were no, you know, there were virtually no bars. Maybe one bar. Maybe there were—maybe one little greengrocer. Otherwise people had to go to Greenpoint for their shopping.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2938.0,2973.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: That was a very interesting experience having the studio, because I would open it up to other artists. Ana Maria Nicholson. She's someone you must interview [laughs], if she hasn't been interviewed. She does holograms. And she started the Hologram Museum, which is now in Staten Island. And she lived right down the road here near Kenny Greenberg and Diane [phonetic], his wife, who—Kenny's a neon artist and Diane [phonetic] makes installations. So a lot of them are still here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=2973.0,3019.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Oh, that's awesome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3019.0,3020.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3020.0,3021.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3021.0,3023.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Some have been displaced [laughs], but Elinore was lucky because when the big building offered artist space, she managed to have one of those spaces.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3023.0,3041.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Awesome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3041.0,3041.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: It should happen more often. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3041.0,3046.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Cool. And then, so you are in town for the Qu'ARTZ meeting at Town Hall?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3046.0,3054.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Yeah, I came for the Qu'ARTZ meeting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3054.0,3056.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Yeah. I'd love to hear more about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3056.0,3059.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: I don't really know much [laughter], but I can tell you how it was formed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3059.0,3063.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3063.0,3063.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Because this is my oldest—one of my oldest friends is Jack Eichenbaum. He is the Queens Borough Historian. And when I met him, he was not the Queens Borough Historian. He was—I don't know how I met him. Through the historical society, maybe the Queens Historical Society rather than the Greater Astoria Historical Society, because I joined them all. And he was giving walking tours, and I might have met him on one of his tours of Long Island City. And we became friends. And then I found my apartment in Flushing through Jack. It was next door to his mother's apartment. And that's how I found my apartment. He still lives on Bowne Street. He had a big birthday last year in February and his idea of celebration was to bring together artists and arts organizations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3063.0,3124.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: So that's what he did. He invited artists he knew and people from arts organizations to come to Flushing Town Hall on a certain date last February, of 2019. And I wanted to come to celebrate his birthday. And so it just—that's how it began. I guess I somehow coined that name by accident [laughter]. [unclear] a lot of things in my life, it happened by accident. But it became Queens arts with an apostrophe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3124.0,3165.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Gotcha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3165.0,3165.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: So it became Q-U, apostrophe, capital A-R-T-Z. Almost like that building that had the Z at the end of it here in Long Island City that was developed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3165.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3180.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Yeah. So I'm coming for that. I haven't been back in a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3180.0,3187.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Gotcha. And then coming back in a year, have you noticed a lot of change [laughter]—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3187.0,3196.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Oh, yes. Everywhere. I mean, I've been back for other things during the year, and I'll be back again in April. But oh yeah, it's changed so much. Developed. Developed. And it's vibrant, it's lively, it's—traffic is terrible [laughs]. I came in via the Grand Central Parkway. I couldn't believe my eyes as I went by LaGuardia Airport.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3196.0,3233.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3233.0,3234.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: It's expanding by leaps and bounds. It's crazy. Yeah. And I was reading about—this isn't Queens, but I guess in a way the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway must be relevant too with this new plan to make it underneath like [unclear]. So, lots of changes. And I feel really gratified—I feel really happy that I documented it when I did, because I have photographs of this entire neighborhood as it looked between '85 and 2005, let's say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3234.0,3288.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Oh, wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3288.0,3288.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Yeah. So I have—they're not necessarily great pictures [laughter], but they're good documents of the railroad tracks of the Vernon Avenue Bridge, which doesn't exist anymore. And I used to stand up on the Pulaski Bridge and photograph from there. The Schwartz Chemical Factory. The Citicorp [building] I have photographs of. In fact [unclear] was a show at the Long Island City [unclear]. I showed pictures of the woman who lived in the house that was demolished to put up the Citicorp. And she's in curlers. It's a wonderful portrait [laughs]. So I really love my pictures of people. I mean, I think the architecture is also really important and there needs to be a home for them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3288.0,3353.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Are you currently still photographing right now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3353.0,3356.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Except that in Maine, I really can't find anything to sink my teeth into. It's all landscapes and seascapes, which is very serene, peaceful, but it's about people. So I get my kicks really from when I go down at six o'clock at night to the harbor where I have some—four friends have little white dogs, and so I photograph these white women with their white dogs [laughter]. Otherwise, there's not much because I don't live in a city. I live in a town. If I lived in a city, I'd go up to Portland and photograph the Somali community, 'cause I used to live in Somalia with the UN.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3356.0,3405.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Do you plan on taking any photography while you're back here in Queens for your short time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3405.0,3409.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Yes [laughter]. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3409.0,3412.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Any particular plans or just seeing where—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3412.0,3415.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: No, I just, I would wander. Yeah. I might go over two blocks to my old studio, which used to be—I mean, I photographed it when it was a studio. I photographed Christmas lights from it in the neighborhood when I was in the studio. And then it became one of the very first luxury condos, so I photographed that as it was going up. I think it was a small one, maybe six stories. So I'm curious to go to that street and see how it looks now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3415.0,3449.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Nice. Awesome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3449.0,3451.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3451.0,3451.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: So we're hitting the hour mark.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3451.0,3454.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Wow [laughter]. It's a lot of [crosstalk]—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3454.0,3457.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: —[crosstalk] so I kind of want to just to open up to you, anything that you would like to share that you haven't. Any kind of last words or thoughts about Queens, the art scene in Queens, really anything that you want to share.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3457.0,3477.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Well, all I can say is that I really enjoy coming back and I miss it. I miss my friends. I miss the buzz. And I miss that something is always going on. But that's New York [laughter]. 'Cause where I live now, I mean, the only thing that changes is the Christmas lights go up in December and they come down in February, and then the tourists come in the summertime and then they leave. But here, I feel like it's been in a way discovered by the mainstream, whereas before nobody ever really wanted to come to Queens. It was very hard to get my friends from Manhattan to come to Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3477.0,3536.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: It still is [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3536.0,3539.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Really? Well, it's vast. You can travel from here to the Rockaways and it's a whole 'nother community. And that's changing. So, I can say the last few times I've been here, I've enjoyed taking the ferry. It's a great addition. I just suppose people will talk about Amazon and whether it—we're gonna talk about it tomorrow at the Qu'ARTZ meeting, I think. There were very mixed feelings about that. And that would've changed the complexion here completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3539.0,3592.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3592.0,3595.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: So, yeah, I don't know what to say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3595.0,3603.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: No, I think you've said a lot [laughs], so no worries. I appreciated hearing all your stories and kind of the history, and so I definitely appreciate your time and sharing that with us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3603.0,3616.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: Well, thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3616.0,3617.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Yeah, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3617.0,3619.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Audrey Gottlieb: It's not every day I can rattle off [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3619.0,3624.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984/transcript/85609/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tiffany Lim: Should we stop?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/153/collection_resources/162513/file/295984#t=3624.0,3627.41551"}]}]}]}