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Katherine's parents purchased a house in Hollis Hills in 1963 when she was approximately 5 years old. She discusses her experience attending the nearby schools P.S. 188, Junior High School 172, and Martin Van Buren High School. Katherine recalls popular games and major current events during that time, frequently visiting her local library, and enjoying recreational activities in Alley Pond Park and Cunningham Park. She also recalls Hollis Hills' large Jewish population, attending a Russian language school in Manhattan on Saturdays, and enjoying taking gym and auto shop classes in high school.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eKatherine, who began attending St. John's University at the age of 16, reflects on her ensuing academic and career path, earning a bachelor's degree in biology plus a master's degree in microbial genetics and becoming a lab technician; she has worked for over 40 years at Stony Brook University, serving as a clinical reseach coordinator at the time of this interview. Katherine discusses moving from Queens to Suffolk County in the mid-1980s, her trips back to Queens to visit her parents until their deaths in 2019, and her visits to Queens since then. She reflects on changes that she has witnessed in Queens over the years, specifically regarding population density and ethnic demographics, and shares her hopes for Queens in the future.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCC BY-NC-SA Contact digitalarchives@queenslibrary.org for research and reproduction requests.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2026-02-05 (created)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Katherine Markarian Askinazi (Interviewee)","Fran Kipnis (Interviewer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Coverage"]},"value":{"en":["1930s-2026 (temporal)","Hollis Hills and Sunnyside, Queens, NY; Manhattan, NY; Suffolk County, NY (spatial)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eKatherine Markarian Askinazi speaks with interviewer Fran Kipnis about her childhood and young adulthood in Queens, specifically Sunnyside and Hollis Hills, from the late 1950s to the mid-1980s. 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She also recalls Hollis Hills' large Jewish population, attending a Russian language school in Manhattan on Saturdays, and enjoying taking gym and auto shop classes in high school.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eKatherine, who began attending St. John's University at the age of 16, reflects on her ensuing academic and career path, earning a bachelor's degree in biology plus a master's degree in microbial genetics and becoming a lab technician; she has worked for over 40 years at Stony Brook University, serving as a clinical reseach coordinator at the time of this interview. Katherine discusses moving from Queens to Suffolk County in the mid-1980s, her trips back to Queens to visit her parents until their deaths in 2019, and her visits to Queens since then. 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And I'm interviewing Katherine [Markarian] Askinazi, who through the interview I also will call her Kathy, for the first time. The interview is taking place via Zoom and it is part of the Queens Memory Project. So Kathy, thank you so much for agreeing to do your oral history with Queens Memory. And I just want to start by asking where and when you were born.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=3.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: I was born at Long Island College Hospital in Brooklyn in 1958. My mother was working there at the time, so I don't know whether she got a discount [laughs], but that's where I was born. And my family—my parents at the time were living in Sunnyside, Queens in an apartment building that was filled with people that they knew, either friends or relatives, because my parents had immigrated through various conduits from the Soviet Union. So my aunt lived in the apartment building. My father's [friend's family] lived in the building. So it was a very friendly atmosphere because we were always going up and down the stairs visiting everybody else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=43.0,98.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Well, I'm going to ask you a lot more about that, but can you tell me a little bit more about your parents' migration here and your family?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=98.0,106.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Yes. Yes. So at the time it was the Soviet Union. My mother was born and grew up in Ukraine, but her parents were always anti-communists, so they were always being hounded by the authorities. So towards the end of World War II, they felt it necessary to leave the country. And they did through—basically, they walked or they rode their way west, ended up in Germany eventually, where my mother and her parents, her brother and his family, spent four years in a displaced persons camp until a country was found to take them. So people that they knew in the displaced persons camp were dispersed. Some went to Canada, some went to New Zealand—all over. My mother's family ended up in the United States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=106.0,165.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: My father was ethnically Armenian and grew up in Russia. He was born to Armenians who were from Iran. There's a significant population of Armenians in Iran. So my father and his siblings were born in Russia, but they were never considered to be Soviet citizens. They still had Iranian passports. In 1938, my father's father, my grandfather, was arrested as an enemy of the people, and the rest of the family was deported to Iran, even though my father had never been to Iran, didn't speak Persian. They were deported to Iran, except for his sister who had just given birth, and she was given a horrible choice. She could either stay in the Soviet Union or she could leave for Iran, but she would have to leave her baby behind. So she stayed in the Soviet Union and the war came. There were lots of terrible times, and my father didn't see my aunt for another almost 30 years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=165.0,249.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So eventually my father—so my father spent 1938 till 1954 in Iran. And then there was a special visa program that allowed him, his siblings and his mother to immigrate to the United States. My grandfather was eventually executed in the Soviet Union, so that was that. So both of my parents had very bitter, terrible memories of growing up in the Soviet Union.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=249.0,289.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: And so how old were they when they came to the country?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=289.0,295.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Okay. So my mother came in 1949. She was about 23, 24 years old. While in the displaced persons camp, there was schooling. So she went outside of the camp to a dental school and she received a dental degree and she practiced there. But upon arriving in the United States, apparently not only was there discrimination against female dentists, but it was also very difficult to get a license in the United States or New York. And she had to support her parents at the time because her parents were already, let's see, in their late 50s, let's say. Yeah. So she took some courses in lab technology and she became a histology technician. And that's what she worked at for most of her adult life in the United States, except for a short break when I and my sister were born. Now, my father, so he came in 1954.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=295.0,369.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Did I say my mom came in '49? So my mom came here in '49, so just want to make that clear. My dad came in 1954, and he started working as an electrician/mechanic in the elevator industry, Universal Elevator Company. And he worked there—well, there was some other union before that, but basically he was in Local 3 IBEW [International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers] for most of his working life in the United States. And he retired eventually, but he was always a strong—both of my parents were in very strong unions, let's put it like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=369.0,409.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: And how did they meet and when did they marry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=409.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So it was the equivalent of the dating app in those days [laughter]. From what I'm told, my father's mother, my grandmother, kept pushing my dad like, \"When are you going to get married? I want grandchildren.\" So she put an ad in the Russian language newspaper [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=413.0,435.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So both of my parents spoke several languages because of life circumstances, but Russian they had in common growing up in the Soviet Union. So in our household, Russian was always spoken. And even though I was born in Brooklyn, I grew up speaking Russian and I learned English when I started kindergarten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=435.0,463.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=463.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: There was no remedial bilingual, nothing like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=464.0,468.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: They just threw you in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=468.0,469.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: They just threw me in. I remember having some problems with some words in English, but I caught on pretty quickly. And so did everybody else that I knew that were children of Soviet immigrants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=469.0,479.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: So when they were married, did they go right to Sunnyside or did they live other places?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=479.0,488.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: My father was already living in the apartment in Sunnyside. My mother was living with her parents in Brooklyn on Herkimer Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=488.0,497.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Oh, okay. So tell me a little bit—and so you started out in Sunnyside though. So tell me a little bit about what the neighborhood was like when you were young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=497.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Okay. The apartment building was close to Greenpoint Avenue, between Greenpoint Avenue and Queens Boulevard. So I remember it just being a very bustling neighborhood, a lot of foot traffic. There was a Genovese drugstore on Greenpoint Avenue where my father would go with me to replace those tubes, those tubes in the back of the television [laughs]. There was a very nice bakery on Queens Boulevard, a Lowery Bakery, because the apartment was by 41st Street Lowery subway stop [40th Street–Lowery Street station, corrected by transcript editor]. What else can I tell you about that? There was a playground, well, a concrete playground, a block away from the apartment building [on Greenpoint Avenue], and that's where my mom would take us. There'd be swings, and again, people would take their children there to play.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=510.0,569.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: And I seem to remember going to some, not really a nursery school, but some childhood program because I distinctly remember my mom saving the cans from the frozen orange juice. We would cover it in paper and make a pencil holder out of it. And I distinctly remember the A\u0026P Supermarket on Greenpoint Avenue, and my mom had the green stamps. Was it the S\u0026H green stamps? We would collect that and turn them in, for what, I can't remember what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=569.0,611.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: And then was it a lot of different nationalities in the neighborhood or tell me about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=611.0,617.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: At that time, it was mostly Irish. Mostly Irish. Yeah. But now—well, Irish and some Armenian, but now it's like Romanian, Pakistani, some Armenian left. Some Irish presence because I used to go back quite frequently because my aunt stayed in that apartment building until her passing in 2015. So I'd be going back and forth. So I saw how the neighborhood changed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=617.0,648.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: And then how long did you live in the building, your family?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=648.0,651.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So we moved out of there in April of 1963 because my parents bought a house in Hollis Hills, Queens. Either my sister or I asked them once, \"Well, how did you choose Hollis Hills?\" And they said something, \"Well, someone said it was a good neighborhood\" [laughs]. My dad would say at that time the Long Island Expressway only reached up until that far basically, but there was an Armenian church in the neighborhood in Bayside. It was School District 26, which I think even till this day is one of the best school districts in the City.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=651.0,696.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: So tell me a little bit about school and the schools that you went to there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=696.0,699.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Okay. So I went to P.S. 188, which was maybe a ten-minute walk away from my parents' house. The principal when I first started was Mr. Abramowitz. I don't remember his first name, but then after a year or two, it was Mary T. O'Neill [laughs]. It was a wonderful school. I had a great time there. Most of the kids in the neighborhood were Jewish. Most of the time we'd be friends running around playing in the street. Other times it was very painful. My sister and I would get called Commies because my parents were from the Soviet Union, and kids don't understand that my parents had left there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=699.0,766.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So at P.S. 188, we would play at recess in the playground. There were all kinds of activities in the school. You have the assemblies with the color guard. When I was in kindergarten, we had two older students. I think they were probably fifth or sixth grade. I remember one of the names was Harriet [laughs], and they were very kind with us. They kind of supervised us in the playground. And I distinctly remember, because it must have been 1964, the word on everybody's lips was the Beatles [laughs]. I remember that. There were small games that we would play in the school. We would make these paper shapes called chatter boxes that would have—we would write fortunes inside like that [demonstrates with her hands]. And the small—we would call them Trolls, I think, at the time, or Munchkins or something like that. Now they call them something else because they made a big comeback at some point, those toys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=766.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So while I was at P.S. 188, it fed into Junior High School 109, which was considered to be a bad school, like physically violent students, lots of chaos. So the PTA [Parent Teacher Association] got together and filed a lawsuit to have us feed into Junior High School 172, and it was successful. So my class might've been the first class to feed into 172. But backing up a little bit, when I was in fifth and sixth grades, there were teacher strikes, which kind of disrupted the school year in the beginning. The one when I was in fifth grade was relatively short, but the one that was when I was in sixth grade stretched out, and somehow the parents and the teachers got together and decided it wouldn't do for us to miss so much school. So they made an arrangement with the local synagogue, Hollis Hills Jewish Center, and basically we had a half day of school in the Hebrew school classrooms at Hollis Hills Jewish Center.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=840.0,927.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: And then when the strike was over, I think they extended the school day a little bit at 188, a little bit earlier to come in, stay a little bit later. 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At that time, you had a free bus pass for seventh and eighth grade. Then in ninth grade, you had a bus pass, but you had to pay a nickel each way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1016.0,1055.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: And which bus were you taking to high school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1055.0,1058.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So the junior high school was forty—so it was 44A along Union Turnpike.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1058.0,1063.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Okay. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1063.0,1064.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Yeah. And the junior high school was on—oh, what street was it on? 250 something street, 250 something [257th Street, clarified by interviewee]. It was in—I got off the bus in Glen Oaks basically and walked a couple of blocks. And it was, again, a very busy school, wonderful teachers. Wonderful teachers. I do remember when I was in seven—it had to have been seventh grade. It was May 4th, 1970 when the Kent State shootings happened and the school was closed either the next day or the next couple of days because they were afraid the students were going to riot. I can't imagine that age students rioting, but they did close the school, that I remember. And in general, I was very aware always politically or everything that was going on because being that my parents were refugees, it was always a topic of conversation, worldwide events, national events, growing up between my parents, their friends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1064.0,1139.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: And backing up a little bit to P.S. 188, the big two things at the time were the space program and the Vietnam War. 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And then before you talk about high school, just tell me what the neighborhood was like and were there other—the type of people that lived there, the housing, other institutions like the library, parks, what else you could do in Hollis Hills.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1164.0,1183.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So the library was on Union Turnpike and Bell Boulevard, so I was there constantly. Constantly, because up until I was maybe 11, my parents didn't have the funds to send us to camp or anything like that. So the library would have summer reading programs. You would get a gold star for every book that you would read, and it would go on a map of Queens. [Post-interview addendum by interviewee - \"We would play punchball, kickball, stoopball, jump rope.\"] What else was there? There was a Catholic church that was eventually built on the corner of Bell Boulevard and Union Turnpike. Going south towards 82nd Avenue, there was a church, not a Catholic church, but 82nd Avenue between 215th Street and Bell Boulevard. So the church still had some empty land next to it, and it was a hill. So we would always go sled riding there. 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So there was also a little bit further south where Bell Boulevard intersects with the Grand Central Parkway, I don't want to call it parkland, but it was a wooded area. And there was a pond there that we called P Pond. I looked up the name not too long ago. It's a very long name beginning with a P [Potamogeton Pond, clarified by transcript editor]. But in wintertime, the pond would freeze over and we would go ice skating there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1258.0,1321.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: And my daughter asked, \"Well, weren't you afraid someone would fall through the ice?\" But it must've been thin ice or maybe it was just very cold then, but that was never a consideration. And Hollis Hills—we were very fortunate. We were between two real parks, between Cunningham Park on the west and Alley Pond Park on the east. And we would also go sled riding in Alley Pond Park. There was Suicide Hill, it was called. I had some hand-me-down skis. I would do some cross-country skiing, on a little bit of a—tiny bit of a hill in Alley Pond Park.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1321.0,1367.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: There were swings there. Also, on the north side of Hollis Hills, there were the remnants of the Vanderbilt Motor Parkway, which was kind of crumbling asphalt at the time. So we didn't know it was called the Vanderbilt Motor Parkway or what it had been. And my parents just called it The Alley. The Alley. So we would go there and, back then, some people would ride horses there because my mother would collect the horse manure [laughs] to use as fertilizer in our garden for flowers or whatever if we were growing some vegetables, let's say. And there were wild raspberries growing there on the Motor Parkway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1367.0,1427.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Sometimes we would ride our bicycles there, but it was very bumpy. It was much, much, many years later after I had moved away that they paved it nicely and made it into a trail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1427.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Yeah, it's a really nice walk in between the two parks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1440.0,1443.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Yeah. So also at Cunningham Park, there was always the summer concerts. I think—was it the Philharmonic would come? There was always stuff going on in the park. And then it must have been when I was, let's see, probably junior high school age or, yeah, probably junior high school age, there were softball leagues, and the girls' softball league was called the Lassie League, and we would play our games in the northwestern part of Alley Pond Park. Well, but I had to miss all the Saturday games because my parents sent me and my sister to a Russian language school on Saturdays in Manhattan to keep up our Russian language. And there was also history, geography, literature, religion, chorus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1443.0,1510.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: It was a full day in the City, ten to three. It would take us all day to get there and all day to come back because back then it was a two fare zone. So you had to pay for the bus on Union Turnpike, the 44A, and then we would get off at Kew Gardens, take the E or the F. Anyway, because it was Saturdays, we would take four subways to get to the school, which was on Park Avenue and 93rd Street. And I went there, well, between nursery and this and that, ten years. So part of my love of travel, I think, stems from there. 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And I think there were a lot of successful businessmen, business families in the neighborhood. My parents were just two working stiffs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1562.0,1613.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: And then where did you go to high school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1613.0,1616.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So I went to high school, Martin Van Buren, and—best time of my life [laughs]. I don't know, like, the teachers were great. I had a lot of friends. I wasn't in a so-called popular group, but I had my friends. I did really, really well in my—I always did well in school because it was expected of me. My parents were immigrants, so they sacrificed to get to the United States. You have to do well. If I got a 98 on my test, my mother would want to know why I didn't get a hundred, that kind of atmosphere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1616.0,1657.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So I spent three years at Martin Van Buren High School. It was very crowded at the time, about 4,000 students, so it was double session. 10th grade went later in the day, and I think 11th and 12th grade went earlier in the day. There were a lot of clubs, a lot of activities besides the classes. Most girls didn't like gym, but me and a few of the girls did like gym, so we asked one of the gym teachers to put together a special program for us. So we had something called, I think it was called the 50 Mile Club, where every gym day we would run around the track and keep track of our mileage, and then we were hoping to reach 50 eventually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1657.0,1706.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: And also my mother felt I should be involved in more activities. So to spite her, I joined the auto mechanic club [laughs], the auto shop club. So first I did it as an after-school activity, and then I actually took it as a class at Martin Van Buren. I was the only girl, but the two teachers were fabulous. They were so thrilled to have me there. Both of the auto shop teachers' names were Bernard Heller, if you could imagine that. I ended up getting a letter in auto shop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1706.0,1754.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: And just to double back a little bit to junior high school, in seventh grade, I believe my class was the first class where girls were able to take something other than home economics or sewing. So I took metal shop in seventh grade, and then it was, like, sewing in eighth grade and home economics in ninth grade. And in junior high school, we were allowed to wear pants finally because in elementary school, there was some rule, you could only wear pants if it was something below, like, 19 degrees. And by the time I got to Martin Van Buren, I only wore a skirt or a dress on the first day, and then after that, it was like just pants, pants, pants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1754.0,1806.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: That's great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1806.0,1807.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: And so for both junior high school and high school graduation ceremonies, we had at Queens College, the Colden Auditorium.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1807.0,1820.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Oh, nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1820.0,1822.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: And both junior high school and high school, our class trips were to Rye Playland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1822.0,1828.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1828.0,1829.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1829.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Did you do class trips into Manhattan, to the museums in Manhattan or—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1830.0,1836.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: I distinctly remember that that was mainly elementary school. I don't remember any class trips in junior high school, but in elementary school we went to the planetarium. We went to the [American] Museum of Natural History, places like that. Oh, we went to the aquarium in Brooklyn, which was like, now that I look back, that must've been quite a trip. And I liked it so much that I asked my parents to take me back there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1836.0,1871.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: And what about the World's Fair? Did your family go to—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1871.0,1873.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Oh, yes, we did. Yes, we did. I have photographs of me and my sister and my mother, we're dressed up. And I distinctly remember the It's a Small World [boat ride]. And I remember that the Pieta statue was on display, and also the dinosaur. The dinosaur. I think it was the Esso exhibit, the gas, I think it was Esso [Sinclair Oil, corrected by interviewee]. And then also, I think the Verrazzano Bridge had either just been built or was imminently about to open, because there was a display, a big cross section of one of the suspension cables with all the little wires inside. Yeah, so that was a lot of fun. And also my parents would take me to Kissena Park. There was a pond there and I had a model sailboat that I would sail in the pond. And if I remember correctly, there were pony rides there too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1873.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Interesting. Very cool. And any other memories of other places in Queens that you went as a family to visit or places that were really important to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1950.0,1962.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Let's see. Well, I would say not really because a lot of places that we went to were in Manhattan. For example, after Russian school, if my father happened to drive us there, my mom or my dad would hang out there with the other parents because it'd be too much of a trip to go back to Queens and then pick us up again. So we would go down to the Essex Street Market and they would buy all the ethnic stuff [laughs]. So it was more going to Manhattan, I would say. Or my mother's parents lived in Brooklyn, so we would take the Interboro [Parkway] there. I never really ventured going east at all past Queens, except my dad had bought a plot of land in Shirley, which was the end of the world, and every now and then we would have to go and clean up the branches and things like that. And when I went—I went to St. John's for college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=1962.0,2028.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: That's what I was going to ask you next. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2028.0,2030.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So just as an aside, we went to Cold Spring Harbor Fish Hatchery. 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So I applied to St. John's. See, here's the drawback of being so young, because I was 16 entering college, and I didn't have a clear picture of how the system worked. And my parents being immigrants, they didn't really have a clear picture either. So I kind of went in blindly. I applied to St. John's because it was close. They gave me several merit scholarships. And I had also been a recipient of the New York State Regents Scholarship, which I don't know if they still have that test at that point. 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They banned it at St. John's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2118.0,2155.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So I didn't know exactly what I wanted to do with myself career-wise. I knew I liked science, I liked math. So they put me in the pre-med program, which was very cutthroat because everybody was aiming towards medical school, to the point where when it came to lab tests where you would have to sequentially identify—there'd be like a cat or whatever with a pin stuck in a particular muscle and you'd have to identify the muscle. Well, somebody, in order to make everybody else look bad, would move the pin. 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It took some effort to find a job, and at very low pay. Very low pay. And basically without a PhD, there's really no career prospects. And that's kind of how I—my whole life, I was a lab technician. Or right now I do—well, I kind of shifted a little bit towards being a clinical research coordinator, but it's basically the same job. So just a little bit of course correction. So I kind of have very bitter feelings about—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2216.0,2278.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Yeah, it was such a different time and you had to make your own way. I know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2278.0,2284.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2284.0,2284.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Yeah. So tell me about after, once you got your master's, so your travels from there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2284.0,2293.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Let me just back up a little bit. So one aspect of Queens in the mid-to-late '70s was Son of Sam. So both me and my best friend, we had long brown hair [laughs], which seemed to be something that the Son of Sam was focusing on. So my friend and I would be sitting in the parking lot of Dunkin' Donuts on Hillside Avenue and Springfield Boulevard, but she'd be looking that way and I'd be looking that way just to make sure nobody was approaching us. So I have that memory from the '70s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2293.0,2334.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Yeah. Yeah. So how long did you stay living in Queens after college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2334.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Right. So after my master's degree, I was working in Manhattan for three years. And then I met my future husband in 1981, and then we were married in 1984, and that's when we moved, or I moved, to Suffolk County.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2340.0,2364.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Okay. So before we talk a little bit about that, what changes did you see in Queens, both from the time you were young until you left? How did you see it change if you did? And then what changes have you seen now? What's your impression of Queens now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2364.0,2388.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Well, it's interesting because now many parts of Queens seem as crowded as Brooklyn seemed to me at the time, and Nassau, to me, seems more like Queens was at that time. So there's greater density. So when I was growing up in Hollis Hills, each family had maybe one car that everyone kept in the driveway. So basically the streets were pretty clear so that we could play stickball in the street. Now when I go—well, because I had to sell my parents' house after they passed away in 2019, there's like car, car, car. There's no way you could play any kind of games in the street as far as I could tell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2388.0,2444.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: And your parents stayed there until 2019?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2444.0,2447.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Yes, they did. So they were there from 1963 to 2019 until their deaths. They died a few months apart from each other. And it was their hope to remain in their house because they had been tossed around so mercilessly throughout their lives that they saw America and specifically Hollis Hills as being a very stable place. And they saw stability as one of their greatest goals. Yes. I would say just the density. The density.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2447.0,2488.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: The density, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2488.0,2489.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: In terms of—I mean, obviously there's been great ethnic changes throughout Queens. I know when I go to the Queens Night Market in the summertime, there's 20 different ethnic foods represented. Maybe it wasn't that diverse back then. [Post-interview addendum by interviewee - \"I would also like to add that one of the biggest changes I've seen in my parents' neighborhood over time is the large number of knockdowns of original houses and the building of McMansions.\"]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2489.0,2513.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Okay. And your sister, where is your sister?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2513.0,2517.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So my sister ended up in Manhattan for quite a while. And then when COVID hit, she and her husband had been traveling back and forth to various places in the Caribbean, and they spend most of their time in Costa Rica now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2517.0,2539.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Oh, nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2539.0,2540.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: She recently retired because her work, I think, said that—well, there was a change in management, and she wasn't thrilled about that. She's only 16 months younger than I am. So a few months ago, she called it quits. I have to brag about her. She went to Cooper Union, which at the time was very tough to get into. Very tough to get into.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2540.0,2570.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: And so you moved to Suffolk in 1984. Which town are you in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2570.0,2577.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So I've been basically in the same 10-mile radius, I would say. I moved to Coram where my—I call him my 'Wusband'. Someone taught me that phrase, my Wusband. He had bought a condominium in Coram—he was from the Five Towns in Nassau—because basically interest rates were almost 20 percent at the time, so that's basically what he could afford. So I picked up my—when I moved in to his condo, he's like, \"Is that all you have?\" [laughs] Yeah. So we were in Coram in the condominium, then we bought a house in North Patchogue. Then we bought a house in Setauket and we were in Setauket for 20 years. And then we moved to a different condominium complex in 2019, basically across the street from where our house was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2577.0,2644.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: And so we were married for 29 years, and then things kind of fell apart. We went in different directions, our philosophies, and he moved down to Florida where he is right now. So we still keep a thread of communication open here and there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2644.0,2664.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: And you work at Stony Brook? Is that, because I saw that—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2664.0,2666.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Yes. So when I moved to Coram, there really weren't many large institutions that would support a research technician, a lab technician. Basically, there was Brookhaven National Laboratory, there was Cold Spring Harbor, and there was Stony Brook University. So I got a job at Stony Brook University, and I've stayed there for 41 years now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2666.0,2698.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Wow, that's very impressive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2698.0,2699.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: Well, part of it is due to the fact that I'm on a State line, not a research line. So my salary comes from the State, not from a grant. And then after seven years, I received permanent appointment, which is the equivalent of tenure. So it'd be very difficult to lay me off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2699.0,2723.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Great. That's good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2723.0,2724.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: And there have been times when management has wanted to cost cut and lay me off, but—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2724.0,2729.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: But they can't [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2729.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: They can't. And thank goodness for—so I'm in the union. Thank goodness for the union. I call that my ruby red slippers because I'm always a union member.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2730.0,2743.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Yeah. Good for you. Good. And then do you get back to Queens now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2743.0,2749.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So I was commuting back and forth to Queens. Well, I would always go visit my parents. I would always go visit my parents. And when the grandchildren—my kids—came along, they would come out here, we would go there. We would see each other very frequently.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2749.0,2768.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: But then in 2016, my mom had a severe stroke at the age of 90. And at that point, my dad was already in his late nineties. So again, the aim was to keep them in their house. So my sister and I were going back and forth all the time. We hired a private aide. Eventually, my parents qualified for hospice, even though they were on hospice for two years because you have ups and downs. So my dad passed away in March of 2019. But my sister was there every Friday because at that point she was working a four-day week, and I would come at least every other weekend. And there's always stuff to take care of between the house and the doctors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2768.0,2829.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: And so my dad passed away February of '19—sorry, March of '19, my mom in September of '19. So my dad was a few months shy of a hundred, and my mom was a few months shy of 94. And then I had to bring the house into shape for selling because their \"new\" kitchen was 50 years old at that point [laughs]. But the house sold right away. And again, this is a sign of how the neighborhood was changing. Some, more like Bukharan Jews, had been moving into the neighborhood. It was becoming more Orthodox in that sense. So the person that bought my parents' house, his brother had bought a house almost right behind my parents' house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2829.0,2890.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So the area, Hollis Hills in general, more Asian and more Israeli and more like Bukharan Jewish. Because the Hollis Hills Jewish Center, Bayside Jewish Center merged with them. And then I see a block away there's a very large—the last time I passed by—there's a very large Orthodox, looks like a synagogue that was built on Union Turnpike.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2890.0,2920.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: So just as an aside, so I grew up in this Jewish environment. I knew what the Orthodox religion was that I was raised in because we went to the Russian school, and there was the Armenian church, the Russian church. But my husband asked me to convert so that we would have a unified family religiously, and I did. And it was much easier to do that than to give up my last name [laughter]. And so we had this big discussion or, not argument, I don't know, negotiation. So I was born Katherine Markarian. So I didn't have a middle name because that's just not done in Russian Armenian culture. So my new name was then—I made Markarian my middle name and I took Askinazi as my last name, but we agreed that at work I would still be Katherine Markarian. So the joke is I'm never going to quit working [laughter] because I don't want to lose that. So any papers that were published with my name, it's been Katherine Markarian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=2920.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRAN KIPNIS: Okay. All right. Well, Katherine, this was great. Is there anything else that you just want to make sure that we have in your oral history just about Queens or about you in general? Do you have hopes for Queens or things like that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687#t=3000.0,3021.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/176203/file/315687/transcript/95264/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KATHERINE MARKARIAN ASKINAZI: I'm proud of being from Queens, especially when I read articles how it has the largest amount of languages concentrated in the whole world, that you could get any kind of food, ethnic food. And that something—I don't remember the exact percentage, but such a large percentage of New York in general, but Queens in particular, are immigrants. 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