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We are recording on January 8th, 2021 for the Queens Memory COVID-19 Project. And can you say your full name and spell it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=0.0,15.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Yeah. So my first name is Millie, M-I-L-L-I-E, and my last name is Kapp, K-A-P-P. And my—just for the—I don't know if you guys also need this, but my legal first name is Camille.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=15.0,33.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=33.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: But I go by Millie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=35.0,36.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: I think that's okay [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=36.0,37.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Okay. Just—I always need to like preface, but in all like print related stuff, it's always Millie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=37.0,46.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Yeah same for me. I'm actually Margaret. So I had felt—I feel your pain with the nickname [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=46.0,52.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=52.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Okay, so some other just—these are the last things, but—so, the last—the three other standard questions just for demographic stuff is what are your pronouns? How old are you, and where in Queens do you live?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=55.0,69.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: I am 32. My pronouns are she, her, and hers and I live in Ridgewood, Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=69.0,78.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Okay, awesome. Okay. So the rest is just kind of—it's just us and I didn't prepare a ton of questions 'cause I think that it's just a little bit open-ended but the first thing I wanted to ask is just if you could tell me about your professional journey. How did you get to where you are now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=78.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: How did I—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=100.0,107.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: —how did you end up at Abrons and kind of—maybe you could explain what you do for work now and then kind of explain how you got to that place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=107.0,117.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Totally. So I am an artist and I work in performance and, I have performed for other artists and I also perform in my own work with my partner, Matt Shalzi. I went to the School of the Art Institute [of Chicago] [pause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=117.0,158.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: —by their deeply experimental approach to performing and to research and to thinking and embodiment. And I learned, through them, about the academic discipline called performance studies, which is the kind of academic field that theorizes performance and experimental approaches to performance. When I was an undergrad, I [unclear] used to the field of performance studies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=158.0,206.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And I stayed in Chicago once I graduated college and I taught for the JCC. I taught after school classes. And I also taught through a teaching artists program on the South side of Chicago and I was doing—teaching art and sort of—that was my first kind of dabbling into education and art. And I was also performing my work and rehearsing with my partner, Matt Shalzi, with—and other folks. So that was back in Chicago, and then I applied to go to grad school at Tisch [New York University Tisch School of the Arts] and their performance studies program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=206.0,256.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And in 2012, I moved to New York City. I moved back to New York City. So I'll preface—I'll jump way back and say, I'm actually a multi—I guess I'm like a fifth generation New Yorker, maybe even older than that, on my grandmother's side. But all four of my grandparents went to high school in New York City. Three out of four of my grandparents were born in New York City. Some of my great-grandparents were born in New York City. So I was raised here. I was raised on Canal Street and Broadway. Both of my parents were artists and painters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=256.0,294.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Anyway—so, I went to undergrad in Chicago, but then I came back to New York for grad school. I studied performance studies. And then after performance studies, I was looking for a job that was in the field that—I was looking for a job in either education or curation in the performing arts and—but specifically in like experimental approaches to performing arts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=294.0,337.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And that is how I found the Abrons Arts Center, which is a place where I had seen a show. And I really was—I was pretty intrigued by what I saw, but I was also just so—this is when—it's so funny to think back on the first time I stepped foot in that building, because I've been in that building—it's been so formative for my much of my adult life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=337.0,368.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: I think it must've been 2012 when I first stepped foot in that building, but I was still in grad school and I was with my friend and I could not figure out how to get into that building like every person that ever comes to that building. And I remember going to the bathrooms—which you've know of, they're the underground theater bathrooms—and going to those bathrooms and seeing kids and families, but also going to see this like total—like weirdo out-there performance group from Minneapolis. And just see—and kind of being confronted with that juxtaposition of Abrons as a community art center in the Lower East Side, serving and working with really all types of income, or folks who come from all types of backgrounds and incomes, but it also has an imperative to serve low income folks like the rest of Henry Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=368.0,443.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And then also being struck by it as the center for radical art and radical thoughts. So I was like, \"Whoa, this is so cool.\" I'd never been anywhere like that. And then I—and then my grandmother and my mom—so my mom used to sit for an artist named Anne Abrons, who is Richard Abrons—who I think the center is named after. My mom used to sit for Anne before she had me. When I was in high school, I sat for her for a portrait and I asked Anne to make an introduction—because her family is connected to the Henry Street Settlement, that's Abrons Arts Center—to the former director at that time, who is now the director of Skirball Center at NYU, Jay Wegman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=443.0,508.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Anyway, I met with Jay and I said, \"Hey, if you guys have any job openings, let me know. I'm really intrigued by this place.\" And I was applying for tons of jobs when I was finished with grad school. Tons and tons and tons— trying to reach out to tons of people, making tons of contact, and then a job at Abrons opened up. And I applied and I was really, really excited to get it back in 2013 when I was finished with grad school, 'cause Tisch is just a one-year program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=508.0,552.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: At the Abrons Arts Center, I have essentially done lots and lots of different things. I've done a lot of different things there. I have performed as an artist on the Playhouse stage, I've taught classes, and I've done administration. So I feel really, really honored that I can interact with the institution in so many different types of ways. And I think that there's a lot of folks for whom that type of interaction is alive and well. That feels really cool to me. And I also hold up Abrons as a model for that, because I think that—I hope that art spaces can be that way for folks. Anyway, I've been there doing—working in the education department since 2013. I took a little break. I taught at—I adjuncted at Stony Brook for one year in their theater arts department, which was so insane 'cause there were like 40 kids in a class.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=552.0,631.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=631.0,631.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And I did not ever teach college level Intro to Theater in my life. So it was like a total mindfuck and the students were actually really fantastic and patient with me [laughs], I learned a ton and it changed my art—learning about all this theater was really, pretty fascinating and totally changed my work. I taught at Stony Brook for a second and then I came back to Abrons Arts Center because the department, sadly, they had a bunch of cuts in their humanities departments at Stony Brook.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=631.0,678.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: So then I went back to Abrons, and I've been there ever since doing, like I said, doing mainly education stuff. That's sort of one piece of my professional life. And then I also, like I said, I'm an artist and I perform at various places and that is also as important as anything else that I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=678.0,706.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: And you mentioned to me before that you do residencies, is that—do you want to talk about those at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=706.0,714.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: You mean like—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=714.0,714.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: —artists residencies","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=714.0,719.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: —yeah, I have done some. I actually have one coming up at the end of February, so I will not see you at the pantry for the last two weeks of February. Matt and I are going to be in residence at the Chocolate Factory Theater for two weeks in Long Island City. So that I'm really, really, really excited about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=719.0,748.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: And is Abrons pretty flexible with you—like you can just take some time off for that sort of thing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=748.0,752.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: They are. They're really, really flexible and I think that even though—and this is sort of—this is the blessing and the curse of Abrons—it is so—I think it's deeply artists' friendly place to work. And I think that it really honors the kind of like whole person of each employee. And I think that so many employ—all of us are doing projects outside of that place because we all are being fed and nourished creatively and professionally from so many different fronts. So I think, yeah, Abrons is pretty darn—they're pretty darn great, that's why a lot of people stick around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=752.0,805.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Yeah. It's interesting. 'Cause I've told you, I'm doing this project where I've been interviewing a lot of creatives about their COVID experience. Like not at Abrons, but mostly independent freelancers. And it just seems like having the full-time, or the pay and the benefits from a full-time gig, that's also flexible and understands an artist's lifestyle is unusual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=805.0,825.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: It's so rare. It's so rare. I don't know if you've interviewed John Harper about this kind of stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=825.0,833.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: I hope to, I hope—he's next actually because he's also a Queens resident, so—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=833.0,837.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Yeah. I feel like he would have some really interesting things to say. Oh gosh, I'm actually—I would love to hear his interview, but I know that he does projects outside of Abrons doing lighting design stuff and—so I think that they've been pretty flexible with him as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=837.0,862.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Maybe now we can transition a bit into your COVID experience. So I would love to just keep it as a narrative. So maybe you can just kind of tell me what you remember from, the beginning even March, April, and then when you got started to get involved with the food pantry again at Abrons.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=862.0,879.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Yeah, totally. The second week of March I remember there was a—that—gosh. Okay. The second week of March, essentially—on a Friday, we usually—we used to have group classes for children on Saturdays, which have not happened in so, so long. But it was a Friday and we canceled class for Saturday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=879.0,922.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And we—and prior to that, a bunch of teachers had reached out to us to be like, \"Hey, what's the deal? Am I expected to come in on Saturday? All my other jobs are saying like, I don't have to come in and like, we're closing.\" And I remember when we made the call to close and to say, okay, we'll close for two weeks and then, you know, reevaluate. I remember the onslaught of emails from every institution that anyone had ever stepped foot in that emailed them to say we're closed indefinitely, to take precautions. And this was when we were still saying the novel coronavirus. I remember writing emails saying the novel coronavirus and in many ways it's still novel. It was so emergent and it was really disorienting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=922.0,1002.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: I remember we—I remember when the director of our organization, Craig, said we're going to have to transition the classes to online. And Randy and I—who is my colleague who I programmed the classes with and is an amazing human being also an artist and a fashion designer and a choreographer—he and I, we looked at each other and we were like, there's no way. There's literally no way. We're an art center. Kids come here to—and not just kids, adults, folks, all ages really come here to—they dance and they build things with their hands and they play instruments and they sing and there's literally no way we can have classes online.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1002.0,1063.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And then one week later we were figuring out what Zoom—I had not ever been on Zoom before. Lots of friends of mine had for their jobs, but I hadn't. And I was making Google Classroom folders and figuring out Zoom and getting—John Harper was helping us get professional accounts for like the education program. 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They—I remember we were getting trolled when we were having our classes because they hadn't—they just hadn't put in the safety measures yet onto the platform.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1092.0,1127.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: I remember also just like it being really—a few colleagues at work were sick. All of my friends were sick. My partner was symptomatic and never tested. It just really felt like—my best friend was sick. There were so many people that were sick in March, I remember. I remember being really, really sad and really, really upset that it was so obviously disproportionately affecting black and brown people in the city and more black and brown people were dying from COVID than non black and brown people. I remember being really, really, really mad about that. [unclear] And those feelings linger and are alive still and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1127.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: On a personal level, I wondered—I was lucky that not much of my—I was lucky that I didn't have any shows lined up for the fall 'cause a lot of friends, or pardon me, for the spring rather, because a lot of my friends who had shows programmed for last spring, they had—they experienced cancellation. And I—that was really—there was a lot of mourning around all the cancellation that happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1200.0,1236.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: A lot of my friends left the city, which I was really sad about and I didn't leave because my partner's shop is here. And he couldn't—he was actually—he did not have work for like five months or something crazy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1236.0,1263.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1263.0,1263.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And I was really lucky that I had work, but he literally did not have work for five months. That was really intense too. Then he was like, \"I'm going to work at Whole Foods,\" which I did not like, because I was like—you had a choice in the matter, like you're privileged enough to decide you should please do not work for Amazon, please. Yeah. But he, he did end up working for Whole Foods. He's actually fine. But, yeah. What else? We—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1263.0,1302.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: —and you guys are at Ridgewood, which I just bring up because this is for the Queens Memory Project. Right? So—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1302.0,1309.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: We worked with Hungry Monk—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1309.0,1311.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Okay—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1311.0,1312.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: —which is another food pantry based out Ridgewood. We worked with them. I actually worked with them before I started Abrons doing our food pantry and Hungry Monk was amazing. We had a really powerful sort of—that was when I was so moved honestly, Maggie, by the food relief efforts. And I really enjoyed the kind of feeling of like folks sort of coming together to do labor around something that's like so much bigger than themselves. I was so lonely when—and I always joke, and I don't know if I've said this to you before, but I was so lonely. I'm such an extrovert. And I was so lonely at the beginning of the shutdown and a big part of working at these pantries, first with Hungry Monk, and then at Abrons slash the Henry Street Food Pantry was a way to feel connected to people for myself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1312.0,1404.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: I feel similarly. It is a nice—I mean—but it's great. It's like a double—I also like getting outside of my house. I don't know if you feel that way, but just—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1404.0,1411.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: My gosh—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1411.0,1411.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: —being able to move around the city and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1411.0,1414.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Oh my gosh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1414.0,1415.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: It's nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1415.0,1417.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: I think there's been like two or three days in the last nine months when I did not leave my apartment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1417.0,1426.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Yeah [laughs]. That's the way it should be, right. This whole shelter in place is hard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1426.0,1431.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: I never ever, ever, ever, ever stayed in my house. I mean I—that's just not—it's not—I can't do that. I just can't do that. There's totally safe ways to be outside. Totally safe ways to be outside. And there are times in the pantry where I double masked, but I cannot stay in the house. No, no, no, no, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1431.0,1462.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: So maybe we can start now with talking about the conversion of Abrons. So you're working with Abrons still doing virtual classes, but then at some point Abrons also developed the food pantry. So maybe we can kind of start at that point, which was— Kaitlin said around April. Is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1462.0,1480.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Yeah, totally. And I think that I had only missed like—Randy, as I mentioned, my colleague who I work really closely with—Randy started going right away. 'Cause he lives in the Lower East Side, he's doing deliveries right away. And I remember John getting on a staff meeting call and saying, \"Hey, you know, we really kind of still need some staff at the pantry.\" This was when it was out of the Boys and Girls Republic, BDR, on East Sixth Street. And I was like, well, I am doing this food pantry in Ridgewood and I'm an employee of the Henry Street Settlement. So I might as well get my ass to the Lower East Side because those are also my folks and I hadn't—I mostly—I mean—I take the subway once in a while, but I mostly ride my bike still.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1480.0,1544.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And I kind of had to sort of like pivot my brain a bit because I was—I had—I sort of stopped bike riding once I moved to Ridgewood. 'Cause I used to live in Brooklyn. And when I moved to Ridgewood, it was—I didn't like—biking on Morgan Avenue and Metropolitan and like—my route into the city was just sort of gnarly. 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So, a lot of our classes sort of dropped off and I was pretty intrigued from the onset to be like, okay, the pantry is where we're still actually interacting with our constituency and our neighbors and how can that also be harnessed as a creative space for interaction and connection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1605.0,1672.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: So, the first thing that we did, we hired artists—oh no, no, pardon me. That was the second thing. The first thing that we did, we had some of the art students put drawings into the grocery bags. And that was really awesome as like a form of—kind of as a sharing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1672.0,1698.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: So, that—we did that. And then the second thing we did, we hired artists to give prompts. So, creative prompts to the grocery recipients and we put those in the bags. That was great. 'Cause it was giving artists they were getting a bit of small—you know, very small amount of resources, money to create these prompts and they were getting disseminated through the bag. But we didn't get—there wasn't a whole lot of return. Folks weren't really fulfilling the prompts, which was fine. But I—we did them for a few months. So I kind of—I was like, let's not do this anymore because there's a lot of printer paper being printed. And I was like, let's just stop. That was great. That was an awesome experiment. And now we can move on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1698.0,1763.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: We took—in my opinion, one of the genius things about the pantry is that John Harper and a bunch of folks who work in youth programs at Henry Street created their Community COVID Response Team, which is a group of young people who were employed to help out at the pantry. I think that happened in about July or August. And they're college [unclear] students. They're all pretty amazing. Many of them are from LES. So I was like, Oh cool. We're now working with this group of really thoughtful, lovely young people. How can this also be a space for like—they're doing work at the food pantry, but they're also engaging in arts and culture somehow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1763.0,1817.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And because—oh, also I should mention that I do feel that arts and culture are essential. And I think as of my colleague Charles at Abrons, Charles O'Leary, who does marketing there and I think has a really beautiful brain, they were saying—they made a really cool distinction between the art world and art, which I think is really necessary when talking about what is essential and what isn't. Is art necessary in COVID? It's like, yeah. Is the art world necessary in COVID? I don't know. That's another question. So I feel like I definitely want to shout them out in terms of making that distinction—but anyway—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1817.0,1875.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: So we brought some folks—we brought some of the CCRT folks on a tour. This was back in like August or September. They went on a tour of a photography exhibit that Ali Rosa-Salas was the curator at Abrons put together with artists. And we got an artists tour of Destiny Matos work. And if you need any of these names I can follow up with that. But, that was really cool because Destiny had her photographs exhibited on the outside of BGR, which is the building where a lot of the CCRT folks had been working in throughout the summer in the food pantry. So, I thought that was really pretty amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1875.0,1932.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And then I did a workshop with them last month, the CCRT folks, where we made light boxes out of the—kind of discarded cardboard from all the boxes of food at the pantry. And then I have another scheme for the springtime. I want to use some of the cans to do something else. 'Cause we get so many dented cans, but I like the poetry—I'm like using some of those materials to experiment and learn material literacy, and think about other ways of interacting with this stuff. So, yeah. So that's sort of—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1932.0,1991.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: I'd love to see any images you have of the light boxes too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1991.0,1994.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: I can send them to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1994.0,1996.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: That sounds really awesome—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1996.0,1996.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: It was awesome. And I got to also shout out my partner, Matt Shalzi, because we co-lead that and he has a sculpture background and I—and so I collaborated with him in facilitating that. Oh, and I also have to shout out Tiffany Chan, who is also a CCRT person and it was her idea to do a workshop. So I was really grateful to her for making that happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=1996.0,2039.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Okay. So, what have been some of the big challenges that you think that you've faced as a person first, but then also within the work at Abrons?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2039.0,2056.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: I mean, yeah, I think—I've been really sad. I've been really lonely, I think. And my extrovert tendency has been—has struggled because I miss people so much. I also get really—I go in and out of a lot of COVID paranoia waves where I get really freaked out that I have COVID or I'm going to give COVID. I've found navigating interactions with friends to be sometimes—ongoingly challenging, and friends and family members too, because we're still seeing each other. We're just seeing each other in a really reduced way. And then when we are, there's a brand new negotiation every single time, it feels like. That's my experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2056.0,2125.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: So that's been really challenging and the isolation has been really challenging. I really miss rehearsing with other people. And I really miss—a lot of my friends who are not partnered have had a really challenging time in COVID and I feel—yeah. I just miss being able to hug a friend or go into a rehearsal room with another friend and make contact with them in like a fun and creative way because that's like what we do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2125.0,2183.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And I think I also [unclear] really perplexed and disappointed a little bit by my fellow Americans, so to speak. And I think seeing people not wearing a mask, like little things, like not wearing a mask at the grocery store and stuff. That's been really sad and angry. I get really angry. I've had a few distant friends, who—some friends' parents who were hospitalized back in March. That was really, really upsetting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2183.0,2235.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: I definitely like working with—our teaching artists who are so incredible. I think a lot of them have—their work has—they're really grateful to have their jobs, but a lot of their work has diminished or lessened. That's been really—that's been hard and sad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2235.0,2264.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And I think also what's so weird about COVID is people respond to it really differently. Some people get super, super isolated. Some people like their lack of boundaries is really, really hurtful. It's so weird. And I feel like that navigation has persisted. It hasn't ever fully resolved. And I feel like close people in my life—I felt really far away from some people and then had some boundary problems with other people and it's just a big—it's sort of this endless—it does feel like an endless confusion. And extra labor that's happening all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2264.0,2320.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: But I'm really lucky that all of my friends and family, right at this moment, are safe and I feel so, so, so, so grateful for that. That's, I think the—been the—I think that—but okay, I will say that—I feel like I adapt—I tried to adapt pretty darn quick when I was getting sad and lonely and I tried to figure out ways to like be okay. And, I feel like my survival mode kicked in pretty quick and I found—I tried to find ways to keep my mental health okay while trying to ensure my physical health.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2320.0,2383.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Thanks for sharing all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2383.0,2387.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Totally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2387.0,2391.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: So, going back to the Abrons Arts Center, I love the things that you've shared already about the really explicit arts and culture, creative things that you've been doing in collaboration. But I guess what I'd love to hear your thoughts on are, what are the things that you see as creative, or even like creative hacks? And just the way that the food is delivered too, or the way that the center has been set up or the food delivery process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2391.0,2421.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: I mean, there's so many things that I could say. People who work in theater—okay. Theater technicians are the folks who have been most of the brains behind this, the Henry Street Food Pantry. And I think that the versatility of those skillsets, the kind of adaptability and the commitment of that line of work has so well-prepared [phonetic], Kaitlin, Janet, Mike, John—all these folks had such a readily available skillset that allowed them to envision a pantry or a makeshift food distribution operation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2421.0,2467.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And I just—I really feel that it's a testament to the behind the scenes folks that work in these cultural centers. And yes, there are artists that do deliveries. And yes, I'm an artist and I work there on Mondays and on Tuesdays and there—and many of the folks that I just named are artists in their own right. Absolutely. However, I feel—it's really the theater tech folks are also like often invisible in the [unclear] in theater production. And I feel like—I don't know, I just—my hat is off to all of them and I've been really humbled by their adaptability. Okay. So there's that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2467.0,2558.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: The other thing is that—now the theaters and the Henry Street Playhouse, which is a 105 year old theater, I think is 105—it's over 100 years of very historic, very unusual proscenium, classic proscenium theater from the early 1900s and has like this crazy avant-garde legacy. And so, basically the loading dock for the theater is where the food comes in. And then the stage and the shop—so, the shop, the backstage, and the stage itself is where the food lives and also where the bags are packed. John and a bunch of theater tech folks fully erected a DIY fridge. And actually, John had to take it down recently. I'm sure he'll find another solution. John took it down recently because the Department of Buildings were like, \"Oh, actually, that's—that goes against some sort of regulation because it's like putting up a new room in the building and it kind of goes against all these codes,\" but John's argument, which was so brilliant, was like, \"no, it's a set on a stage.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2558.0,2661.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2661.0,2661.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And like, those are the types of moments that are like so profound and so poetic. I don't know if you remember, but we had all this cardboard that the sanitation hadn't picked up and it was sitting in the audience. So there was a literal cardboard audience watching us as we were packing these bags. The flex—one of the—another of the—the profundity is like—the ways in which this stage gets transformed so many times throughout the day with pallet jacks and folks moving these huge boxes around and continuous transformation feels also very much of art and of a kind of creative evolution or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2661.0,2736.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And it's really just goes back to—I was speaking with a friend and colleague earlier this year, Jonathan Gonzales, who's not a Queens resident, but they work with—they're an artist and they also work with performance space. They did a ton of activism and organizing there during COVID. And we had a really awesome conversation and we were talking a lot about mutual aid and about—this conversation was kind of posted through Abrons that it was a fundraiser, but—we had a really awesome conversation about mutual aid and really about the legacy of mutual aid in the Lower East Side and in activism and in communities of color and then resistance efforts. And like, the ways that adaptability is really feels at the heart of what makes something creatively compelling, like what makes art really compelling. And then also feels like it's at the heart of a lot of these mutual aid efforts happening with—among artists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2736.0,2819.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: I agree with you. I think all this stuff has really—it's going to be interesting to see just how this gets integrated into art, capital A art, going forward, but yeah, it seems—okay. I think like—I don't want to take too much time, but I guess I'll just finish on, like, how are you feeling so far about the winter and like [laughs] is it—has it been okay delivering during the winter? And what do you see—are there any shifts in the need, like the food insecurity needs or the challenges that you see as a deliverer and right now? And also the challenge of being a deliverer with the weather changing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2819.0,2858.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: I mean, one thing is that folks are really wanting fresh fruits and vegetables. And I think that for—I think it was some sort of shift in—I don't know the—I actually don't know the details, but I hope and want for there to be a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables for folks this winter. I mean, we deliver to the same people every single Tuesday. So we kind of—I feel like, sadly, our list is sort of set and was set. And we, once in a while, take someone off the list and then we have added some folks, but for the most part, it's pretty set. And I have heard because some of my Henry Street colleagues who work on the Henry Street helpline, they said that they're getting a lot of calls around food insecurity, which is really disheartening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2858.0,2927.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: And like I said, we were doing these kind of, I don't know how you'd call it. Folks register and then they come to the center for food. Whereas, what we do is we deliver to folks' houses and it's the same list every time. We were getting USDA boxes—I think somehow it connected—okay, this is—I don't mean to sound like conspiracy theorist, but they had like letters from Donald Trump in the boxes and it was leading up to the election. So, I feel like there was some sort of connection between these boxes and Trump's attempts to reelection. So, we were doing that, which was cool because that was another avenue through which people could get food. But that's ended.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2927.0,2991.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: We're just—we're trying to—I think—I guess another challenge is the fridge. I wish that we—John is John, and Kaitlin, and all the folks that I've named, they're so adaptive. So, I have no doubt that they won't come up with another incredibly dynamic solution to an ever emerging—problems are coming up all the time. That's something too. I think that this question of how to keep food cold, but I—that's sort of—I guess for myself, like, how am I doing? I been so paranoid about COVID. Oh my God, I get so paranoid all the time. So, that really sucks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=2991.0,3046.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: But I'm okay. I'm okay. I— New York is not that cold compared to like some other states. It's originally—it's kind of a temperate place. It's not that bad. And I don't mind doing deliveries outside in the cold. We haven't had a day that was like 10 degrees yet. I'm sure when we do that will be a really different story. But, it is an interesting—you are kind of out in the elements. My total wardrobe has completely transformed in COVID. I'm not even joking. I never wore sports bras to work in my whole life, in my entire life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3046.0,3097.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3097.0,3102.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Seriously, I've—so much as—my whole relationship to—I guess, yeah. I sort of learned a bunch from being around the pantry folks and just being like, Oh yeah. I gotta be kind of—if I'm able, then I would like to be as equipped as I can to interact, connect in a safe way and engage in a safe way. And that means getting sports bras, I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3102.0,3142.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: [laughs] Gotta do what you gotta do. I mean—but that shows your priorities though too. Where it's like, the connection—the need here is to connect and to engage. So like, what are the things that can move around that need to make the need happen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3142.0,3159.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Totally, totally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3159.0,3165.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Well, this is really awesome. Thank you so much for doing this and sharing, and I'm sure that you have a lot more stories, but I think we can stop here just because this is really great [laughs]. And, if—I guess if I have follow up questions, I might just send you texts or email or something, but I think this is good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3165.0,3183.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: The next steps are that this gets transcribed, so I'll just send you the transcription when it comes through. It will probably be a couple of weeks and then you can just give a skim over, and if there's anything that you want to change or take out or whatever, all that's fair game. So, I'll just send you a note when that's ready.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3183.0,3202.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3202.0,3204.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: But, thank you, Millie. I hope you have a wonderful weekend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3204.0,3207.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Thank you, Maggie. It's been such a pleasure to chat and I—it's so fun. 'Cause you know all the Abrons and Henry Street references. It is not an abstraction, so its been fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3207.0,3221.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3221.0,3221.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: So, any time to take the opportunity to just sort of reflect and recall and be like, \"Whoa, what the hell is actually going on here?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3221.0,3231.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: I know it's so easy to normalize things, but then when we take a big picture on, it's like—wow, actually this is a very unusual and in some ways, special time. I don't want to—I hate when people say that the pandemic is an opportunity, but I do think that we've seen some really amazing ingenuity. So—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3231.0,3248.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Totally. No doubt. No doubt. Thanks so much again. I'll see you soon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3248.0,3251.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: I'll see you soon. Okay. Take care.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3251.0,3255.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Let me know if you need anything, reach out with any questions or anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3255.0,3258.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie Jack: Okay, cool. All right. Take care. Bye. Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3258.0,3261.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052/transcript/62049/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Millie Kapp: Ok Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/943/collection_resources/114688/file/218052#t=3261.0,3263.328"}]}]}]}