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So, uh, since the focus of the project is mostly around people's work experience, maybe, I don't know where you want to start, Jasmatie -- how you got into your line of work, or...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=0.0,32.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: OK. Um, that was long years ago at a very young age, and actually then I didn't know what I wanted to be, but I had done well academically. And, um, there was a vacancy in the school nearby. And my dad basically -- and my mom -- knew that I love kids because I've been in Sunday school. I have a lot of nieces, cousins, and they said, they encouraged me: Why not give it a try? So I applied for that teaching position and I got it. And my mom, I remember telling me, give it a try. If you don't like it, it's OK. And you won't believe me, John. I went, and I was there for the second day and the third day -- and I never, ever thought of leaving that job because it grew and it expanded me. It taught me so much as that young lady back then. And I had that job for all my life. And I retired after -- yes?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=32.0,108.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: You were teaching in what grade, or...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=108.0,113.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Well, over my years, I have taught, I started with the lower ones, the little ones, the grade school. And then over the years, I taught basically in all the grades, because, you know, in schools, they interchange you and actually I started my career in Guyana -- I'm from Guyana, South America. Yes. So I started as a young teacher there and, um, I started, we used to call it the beginners, the preps, preparatory division. So we had an A and a B, and then you get the primary one and primary -- because we were British rule. So we had like a little different system from America, but I loved it. And I always loved kids. And God has blessed me with a family later on. And I have grandkids of my own today.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=113.0,168.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Was this, uh, a large school, a small school?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=168.0,172.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Large; it was a large school. It was a great school. One of the schools that I attended. And maybe, because I was a good child, I would say, I don't know, good behavior. And I don't know, but generally I think I'm a good person starting from back then.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=172.0,195.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Did you have a lot of children when you started working?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=195.0,198.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yes. I remember my first class was 34, my first class. And I did have an assist -- I mean, someone to guide me -- and then they left me alone and give me an assistant later on. Because apparently, I held the reins well, and I was kind of like, I did things like bookkeeping and all of that. So I was good at record-keeping, I must say. So I think it was a smooth transition for me.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=198.0,231.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Sounds kind of challenging going in, what you said, without experience and then having a large, a large class?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=231.0,239.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yes. But, um, remember you were in division, so there was a senior looking over you. So for guidelines, and then you had, um, meetings every two weeks and you can, you know, pour out your problems, or recommendations were given, and you know, you were willing to learn. And as a young person, I was always eager, and it was a little challenging at first, but then where there is no challenge? Nowhere. And I'm glad I started that way because, you know, it helped me so much to make choices.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=239.0,277.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: How old were you when you started doing that?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=277.0,281.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: I was 16.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=281.0,286.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Oh my!\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=286.0,286.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yes. I was 16. Going into 17.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=286.0,289.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Is that kind of a normal thing in Guyana, that you would start so young?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=289.0,294.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yeah. Well, that's why we were called pupil-teacher. Pupil-teacher at that age until you become 21, then you were like, teacher-teacher. And of course the salary range was different and all of that, but it was a gate open for me. And looking back, I'm glad I took that step because it has molded me. I have been exposed to so many people and so many things, so many challenges and I never, one day thought, let me switch my job and go to another one, because it helped me to keep that job and balance family life later on after I got married and so. And it went well. So much so that, our three girls, they all did teach a little bit.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=294.0,348.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: What kind of things did you think you learned? I mean, as a young person, you were still only 16 yourself.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=348.0,354.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Uh-huh. Well, I learned to look for my mentors. Like those people who love what they do, of course you, you'd be OK. Who's nice, who is not nice, who is sweet, who is helping, who is encouraging, maybe how they were dressing as a teacher. And it was fascinating back then, because you had to look for role models. There weren't many, remember, there weren't many long ago, but coming from a home with so many and all of that and a big family. Yes, there were people in the family, but out of the family, now you're branching out and this is a job. 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How, why? 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Um, what would I say...You mean as regards to kids or me?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=448.0,458.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Anything. I mean, you were 16 years old...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=458.0,459.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Well, there were. I loved my job and I was looking forward for every day to go get dressed and go as a teacher and be there in the court for my kids. But there were difficult situations, yes. Because remember, you have a class, and these kids are coming from all over, all backgrounds. And there were like the less fortunate ones. And they'd say, uh, maybe sleeping on the desks while you're teaching, maybe just stretching. And, um, it taught me to be compassionate, to be more understanding. And then when you hear their stories, like you would hear, oh, I did not, I did not have breakfast today, teacher, and, um, or my mom and dad had a fight last night or my dad left our house, you know? And those things helped me to understand those kids more than to just like, OK. No. I learned that each child in my class was as equal and special.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=459.0,521.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: And I got that from my role models. And by listening to their stories, I was able to even check my own life and learning to be more compassionate, be a good listener. And if I wanted to stay in the teaching job, well it called for so much more, not just academic work. It will, you're giving your soul and your body and your time and your life and all of that. And yes, they were difficult. And I mean, now I meet my students everywhere -- in the airplane, maybe on the beach, in a restaurant. And they will remember those little stories that maybe I bought a toothbrush for them, maybe, because we used to teach health education, which is about grooming and everything. And you know, you'd give them little things along the way to cheer them. 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Yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=587.0,589.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: I mean, you take more responsibility?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=589.0,592.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: No, you have to be doing teacher's exam along the way, go to training, teachers' training college, which I did in Guyana. And, um, well at that time, that was a hassle for me because I had, then I had two babies already. And when I entered into training college and I chose not to quit because I know at the end of the rope, I would have had to have so many years of service not broken for retirement. And so, I didn't know I was going to come to America back then, you know? And so I worked in the day and went in the evening to a training college and I did that over a period of two years, working, managing home, going to college in the night, coming back, teaching in the morning.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=592.0,639.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: And how old were you then?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=639.0,643.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Two years.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=643.0,643.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: How old were you at that time?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=643.0,646.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: I would have been late 20s -- 29, 31. Yeah, two years.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=646.0,655.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: You were pretty young, you had a family...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=655.0,665.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: [Audio/video momentarily frozen.] Think we're having a problem with the, uh, I thought we lost Internet? Yes, I'm here. So did you ask something else?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=665.0,682.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: No, I'm sorry. I was just asking, I said you were a young woman, but you had many responsibilities, it sounds like.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=682.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Of course, of course. And you know, I learned at a young age just to go, try, do new things, be responsible, have, encourage. And I think that had to do a lot with a large family because, you know, you had a lot of role models working hard and, and trying to make life. And whatever.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=690.0,717.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: So you're talking about within your own family, you had?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=717.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yes. Yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=720.0,723.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Wow. Why am I getting an Internet problem? What is going on here? [video is bouncing]\t\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=723.0,727.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Little bit, kind of bouncing. Maybe it'll settle in. It's kind of jumping a little bit.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=727.0,740.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: OK. That's OK. We can talk.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=740.0,744.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: How many years did you work here? In this country?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=744.0,748.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Well, I worked I think about the same...Let me get these numbers. I have, um, I came, I took a break and then we settled down and send the kids to university, uh, just really, really hard. And uh, I had help from my mother-in-law and my mom. Let me see, I worked here, I would say 25 years.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=748.0,775.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: So with 25 years here and 23 years in Guyana?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=775.0,783.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Uh-huh.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=783.0,783.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: That's 50 years, just about.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=783.0,786.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yeah. Yeah. But you know, it was such a transitional for me. That is why I didn't just come and plant into a job here. I, as a family person, I had to get the kids settled, OK? This is -- with my husband talked, what are we going to do? We didn't, we couldn't come, go buy a house. That was impossible. You had to make do with a little rented apartment, balance your budget. Where's this money going to come from? Who goes first? Who does what? What can we do on the side? And of course, you know, we taught them not to waste and you're going to have a fewer things than back home, you know, no luxury as such, you know? Yeah. So it was a lot of adjustment, but the kids, we send them one by one to college and they all did well gracefully. And um, we do with the help of in-laws and all of that and church, and you know. And I would think I was called to be a teacher.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=786.0,850.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: How long were you here in the United States before you started teaching here?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=850.0,857.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: I would think like three years? Yes, about three -- yeah. Like it took me a while. I wanted my kids to have -- well, we came here because of them, because we were OK back home. We both had good jobs and we had our own home. We had a car, we had, we had, we were living reasonably well. But we thought, OK, it's their future, and we had the opportunity, and um, we came through my in-laws. Yeah. My husband was sponsored through his mom and eventually we were all under the same sponsorship and he came first. He went back six months after, and then we came as a family. So it wasn't like 1, 2, 3. It was a lot of planning, a lot of decision-making. And with three girls, then a boy, we just had to, like, put everything in a pocket.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=857.0,914.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: So you have four children of your own.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=914.0,917.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yes. Yes. And they're all married now. And we have nine grandkids, enjoying them. Yeah, yeah. They're all on their own. And we -- like yesterday I had lunch with two of them, and [the others] live out of state, but we talk and you know. And we try to meet at least twice a year and things like that, Thanksgiving or Christmas as a family. We still do the old, the old way of life.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=917.0,944.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: So it sounds like you put a lot of effort into keeping the family values and things together.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=944.0,956.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yes, yes. Um, and you know, until now, like I would, like, we have one grandkid at college, the second one; the first one off, going off to medical school. And -- they're two girls, from the first and second daughter. And I said, Grandma, I always tell them, I have an open relationship with them. That since they're growing, you can tell Grammy anything. You can call me anytime, I am here. The same I did with my girls, because I rather they talk to me than to go find a stranger. And, um, and we, I tell them, you may have all these initials after your name. You may have fancy car and big property and become famous, let's see. But remember your values, where you came from and what is priority in your life. And so far, so good. And it, you know, my kids say, Mom, you're the anchor of our family. Like, Mother's Day [inaudible] they tell you all these nice things.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=956.0,1014.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: It sounds like you put a lot of, uh, effort into doing that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1014.0,1019.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: It cost me everything. There were days I could not comb my hair. I had long hair. Because I'm juggling with cooking, one is doing homework over there, one is calling at the other end, one wants to find a shirt. And you know, I used to tell my son, he always asked, how do you see me? And I'm behind the window. I said, well, I have eyes all around. But it's, I think it was just like a mom stuff. To know your kids, be there for them, to listen, correct them when you must. Yes. Correct them. And then you love them. Don't correct them in hate; correct them because you have to hold your stand. And I think because a teacher, I was a teacher, I'm the discipline, disciplinarian in our family. I have been, you know? Yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1019.0,1081.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: So you were used to managing children at school; you're saying that helped you with your own children.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1081.0,1087.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yeah. Because remember in the classroom, you have to let them learn. If teacher is speaking, what you have to do? Just sit back, we taught them to sit back and listen. If they had a question, do you need to stand up or put up -- whatever, those little things. It was like little courtesy you're passing on. Or, you're wrong, you hit the child or you throw down the lunch, whatever -- learn to say sorry. Excuse me. All those things. Make it up, make you a little gentleman or make you a little woman, you know? Yeah. You don't rush through people are talking, you stand, you ask for an excuse, whatever. And you have to mold their little lives.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1087.0,1131.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: It sounds like they had, uh, complicated lives, you said. Family things they had to deal with, that they brought into school...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1131.0,1139.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yeah, remember Guyana is Third World. Well, now lots of things have changed. But then back in our time, it was like Third World, poverty line. And those who are fortunate, were fortunate. But then you had these pockets in the community, you know? Yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1139.0,1158.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: So I don't know -- are you retired now?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1158.0,1164.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yes [laughs].That's a big joke, John. I didn't want to retire, right? But of course you have to. And um, I didn't know where to turn, what am I going to do with another job? Am I going to fit in? And then at my age, and then I gotta start all over and I'm just cut out for this being a teacher thing. So then I said, oh, I'll give it a try. In the meanwhile my kids were saying, Mom, do you really have to work again? You labored all these years. But then I couldn't stay home. That was the, that was the thing! I was used to getting out, right? So...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1164.0,1214.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: You liked it. You said, you know, you liked your job.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1214.0,1219.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yeah. And like I became a people's person through my job. Like I always want to say hello and like meet people and, um, be a friend or make new friends or take numbers or addresses -- back then we used to write a lot of letters or send a little card here and there. And so you build your circle, right? You pick your friends, then you became a mother and you, you get mothers now in the circle, then your, your kids' teachers become your friends and it goes on and on, right? So, um, the job taught me so much.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1219.0,1262.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: It sounds like what you're saying is it expanded your social circle. Very much for yourself.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1262.0,1269.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Oh yes. Yes. Because remember coming from a country background with not a very, very large community, there wasn't really scope except for your immediate family. So on the job you'll be meeting people, parents more so. Other visitors to the school, maybe if there's a program...you see all kinds of people. And so the horizon was there, you know? Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1269.0,1299.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: So many different backgrounds of people that you came into contact with.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1299.0,1302.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Very, yes, very much so.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1302.0,1309.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Can you think of something -- I mean, it's after so many years, there must be many things -- but something really, a particularly special kind of thing that happened working that you feel very good about?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1309.0,1325.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: You mean on the job, as a person, or...?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1325.0,1331.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: On the job, stay on the job.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1331.0,1335.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Oh, on the job there were so many, because, um, we would have surprises like for birthday, like staff lunch, and like you meet a milestone, like becoming 25 or 30. I don't even remember how many there were and, um, or somebody's pregnant on the staff and you have a surprise birthday shower in the staff room. And there, there's someone that the principal wanted to see them there. This time was the shower, you know? And, um, other than that, I mean like celebrating good times where it was like, OK, when I graduated from training college, with all the hard work -- working in the day, you have your kids at home, and then you're going in the nights, got to sit with assignments until 1 in the morning and plan for the next day's work. And the toll was telling on you. But then there comes the graduation. When you have the letter you've excelled, you know -- I think that was a highlight for me. And I, and solidly I knew that, yes, that was the job for me. Because more and more I'm getting to like it, and now I'm trained and there, there's going to be better privileges for me.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1335.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Oh, when you started, you didn't have much training. You were 16.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1410.0,1417.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: No, no no. Yes, of course they take you on. And then there's a range of time where you must go and you have to choose: either you go on your leave, which means you're going to break your service -- well, I guess a lot of people did that who didn't have family. As a single person you can go and live a bachelor life and do your training, whatever. But then again, it was a setback for me, as I said, but I managed to work and go and do all the lines and I graduated. And that was a highlight for me.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1417.0,1450.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: How long were you in school before you graduated?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1450.0,1456.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: In school, or on the job?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1456.0,1456.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: You said you went to the, while you were working, you went to school.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1456.0,1462.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Two years. Yeah. Training college, teacher's training college. And that included weekends, more or less seven days. God it was a -- you know, too much work. You have to, there were deadlines to meet, you know, every professor loading you with all these things.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1462.0,1484.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Seven days a week!\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1484.0,1484.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Oh yeah. You're eating and working; your food is -- or you forgot to eat. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1484.0,1497.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Well, as a very, uh, motivated and busy person, I mean, how does it feel to be retired at this point?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1497.0,1507.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Um, I feel good. I don't know, let me close this door. I think I'm -- I don't know why I'm hopping like that. Could it...no, I don't know.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1507.0,1518.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Yeah. Your voice is clear, but the video is bouncing.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1518.0,1523.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: My voice is what matters, right? Um, how do I feel that I'm retired? Well, before I decided that I was going to retire, I wanted to, um, I did, I'm not that -- I'm not cut out for stay home. I can cook and clean, and the kids have gone, it's just two of us. OK, what's there to do? And um, I thought, all right, I'll volunteer at the library near to me because I used to, I always go there and now it's shut down. But, um, and I saw a lot of need, like homework help and, um, people from different countries coming for English help -- they had a lot of things going on. And I said, all right, I volunteer for homework help, because that's my field. So I went and I did that. And it brought me lots of satisfaction, because I didn't want to like retire now and do something totally strange. No, it was never going to work. It was like a square peg getting into a round hole. And that kind of make me feel I'm still on the job. And so on, at the library, there were lots of people. And I would remember classes because they'd have classes going on here, little kiddies listening to storytelling. And in my mind, I'm on my job. This is a teaching scenario, yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1523.0,1612.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: A very active environment. Like your work environment from the years you worked; you're used to a very active environment.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1612.0,1621.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yes. And then I knew I liked that. And then, um, I like volunteered to go counseling at church camp. And so like, I still wanted to be with kids. So I tried to, and then in my church I teach Sunday school. So I'm still with kids until now. So I like made that smooth transition. I still wanted to be with kids, and like, some of my parents say, telling me things like, um, Miss Jas, you're so patient and whatever. And then say, yeah, my own kids tell me, Mom will be walking with a cane and she was still want to be teaching. That's what my kids tell me. I said, you never know, maybe my wheelchair. And I put it right -- well, it's just because that's my composition. Bring kids to me and I'm OK. So after I retired, yeah. After retired, I did that. I did, um, well, I still teach in Sunday school and all of that. And then we traveled and visited family and friends. And, um, then I said, OK. And I started to do private tutoring.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1621.0,1700.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: At home?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1700.0,1703.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: No, I had an apartment, I had rented an apartment, sharing it. And I had like certain days where I would do like three [students], and this hour I would do two, and whatever. And then when I worked it out, the cost, because you had to pay for so much, it didn't last for long. And so I decided to, um, be, I had talked to the, I used to be going to the library a lot, almost every day. And then one section where you could have the kids with homework and my own grandkids used to go with me, and I used to work with them around tables. And then I had a few parents who came to me and yes, I did teach at the library for some time, private tutoring. But not like a class, maybe one here, or two there, or on a Saturday morning, somebody needs a little help on a language paper, whatever. But I, I, I since I'm retired, I don't have this packed schedule. I try to space myself, because if my kids need help, if they want to go away anywhere, they say, Mom, do you have these dates? Can you look at the kids? So I try to like, go slower and balance my schedule and things like that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1703.0,1779.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: That's the thing being retired -- you can still be working, but make your own schedule. When you were working, you had to be, OK, I'm...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1779.0,1788.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Oh yes, oh yes. You go without breakfast, you run with the coffee, you miss the bus. You miss the bus, you forgot your pens. You didn't have an umbrella on a rainy day. You know, you forgot the book you're supposed to take. And it goes on and on; busy life. But after retirement is a little reverse of that, as long as you space it, you know? And I've learned also that, um, satisfaction comes from, um, I mean, true satisfaction comes from what you really want. Don't overload yourself. Especially when you're retired. You know, go at your own pace.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1788.0,1833.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: And you had to adjust that, right? You were used to being at a pace up here. And then you brought yourself down...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1833.0,1840.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Gradually. I did that gradually. Yeah. And like, I would tell my kids, no, Mom is a free bird, but I'm busy. \"Well, come around weekend...\" No, I'm booked. \"What of next, next month, which day?\" No, I'm booked. And you have your own thing. And you're able to reach out. And like, I have my own kind of friends. We go to families also, not much now, but we try to space everything and to balance life and not becoming too -- what? Bogged down with this and that and that, and that, you know, a little at home, a little outdoor, little with family, little with grandkids, little with church, a little doing nothing! Sleep when you want to, wake up when you want to, cook what you want, you eat how you want -- I think that's retirement.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1840.0,1897.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: So it sounds like you had to learn to, uh, tell people, no, I can't do that right now. I need time for myself.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1897.0,1905.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Oh yes. No. And especially our kids, they would say, Mom, we have this, and we're going to have this, and you know who's going to come? But they're going to miss you, and they talk you into it, right? I say, well, I guess we can talk on the phone. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1905.0,1923.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Not to be running all the time, yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1923.0,1925.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yeah, yeah. I learned to do that. And, um, it's called slowdown in our terms, slowing down, because this -- of course, no one can do everything. And after busy, crazy years with job and family and health and life and ups and downs and nothing is ever smooth and good all the time. Remember that. There are hills and valleys. And when you have walked that road, now you're not going to turn back. You got to, like, OK, I'm getting older, my knees are going, or my eyes are going or whatever the case might be. And so upon those grounds, you start to plan differently.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1925.0,1973.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: And help people around you to appreciate that you have your own needs and your own things you have to do for yourself.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1973.0,1981.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Oh yes. Um, there was a time before COVID, um, we have a senior home, three blocks away, and I used to go and, um, one day I was passing, I saw the sign and I went in and spoke to the receptionist. She was very nice. And I said, can I volunteer here in any way? I had lost my mom. And like, I miss her so much. And I wanted to be with older folks, and I explained to them. And they say, sure, you can come. So I used to go twice every month on Tuesdays, just to share lunch to them and smile with them and listen to their stories. And maybe they still have like little programs, a little Zumba here and a little whatever there. And I'd sit around and watch them enjoying themselves. And I would say, hmm, one day I'll be there. I remember this experience.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=1981.0,2035.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: So I was looking all around. Where can I give back now? So many people helped me as a girl, as a mom, as a young teacher. It's -- I had so many people along the way. So now all of that is gone. How can I give back? So I did all these little things and I loved it. I loved it at that senior home, because I remember one Christmas, and you see all these people dressing up. The older folks, they suit up for the Christmas ball. And you know, when they exchanged their presents, it was a different celebration, because they're in their 90s and maybe one or two went close to century, I don't even remember, but it was a jolly time. And that taught me lessons that, you know what? Never give up on life. You might be sitting in a wheelchair, but there is much to enjoy. And I keep learning. I keep learning. I've been an educator, but I am still learning. You talk to a woman. Yeah. You talk to a woman or you see her with her husband, they both in wheelchairs, but they're happy. You want to know, what's the secret of their happiness, you know? So you learn.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2035.0,2115.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: So you're trying to, uh, you moved from children to older people.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2115.0,2121.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Well, all kinds of people. Yeah. Yeah. I like people generally. I learn, I learn to adjust, like, as I said, I'm a people's person. I make friends anywhere because it's a natural for me to say a hello. But now we won't shake hands [due to COVID restrictions]. But if it's, I can't say hello, I mean, let's say language barrier or whatever, at least I can smile, you know? Yeah. I like that. I don't want to be a dummy in the community or I want to, and then if I'm God's child, I have to be happy for some things. If not everything, the weather, at least, my health, whatever, safety provision. Yes. So I want to share that, I want to share that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2121.0,2170.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: What do you see yourself doing -- I mean, the restrictions are starting to loosen up some...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2170.0,2176.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yes, yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2176.0,2177.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: So once things are, I guess, loosened up enough, what do you see yourself doing outside again?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2177.0,2185.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Well, for now, for -- I mean, as a person? Or in the community generally?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2185.0,2193.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Anything.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2193.0,2193.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: OK. Well, as a person, well, I do go out around the block right now. However I get the time, I go out. I love the fresh air, I love the quietness in the mornings. I love lakes and ponds and trees. And I find myself out there. I will continue to do that. And more and more if like, I'm, I, I mean, I don't know. I'm dreaming that those, the doors of my library will be open soon and much of my time will be spent there because I'll be in all the programs I can. You bet. Yes, I will be...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2193.0,2224.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: How close is your library to your home?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2224.0,2226.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Ten minutes' walk. Maybe eight.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2226.0,2238.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: That makes it that much easier, good.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2238.0,2238.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: No, as soon as you enter those doors, you're a new person. So many people know me there -- the guard and the who -- and when I brought my grandkids there and the little girl says, Grandma, everybody knows you here! As if, when I'm taking -- I say, yeah, because this is where I live! This is my second home, you know; the guard, the who, the what, and you know. So I'm dreaming about that being reopening, and, um, I know the library has a lot to offer me as well. You know, I go there to read and attend programs and help volunteer, whatever. But this time around, I don't know what avenue might be open for me. And I would, I would want to be involved much more.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2238.0,2288.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: You're finding a lot in the library, many different programs.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2288.0,2293.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Oh, all the time. Yeah. Sometimes we have street fair, um, right outside. And we have all these little booths, you know, and you bring kids and you get their parents to come also. You do a little painting, you do a little dodgeball, whatever. You give them pencils and bags and whatever. And it's a fun time for them. You block, they block the streets off, and it's like family time through the library. And then one time they brought the zoo in, at the library, you know -- yes! And it was awesome! It was awesome. The guy had a snake on his shoulder and then he had a bunny. Oh, it was, and then they had a parrot, oh, so many things, and kids could see real life. You know, [inaudible] people, you know, and the library's for everyone , our library's for everyone. So I'm waiting for that. That's on my priority list.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2293.0,2359.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Sounds like you helped to influence programming there too.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2359.0,2363.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Oh yeah. It's an ongoing thing at the library. I guess all the libraries, because my library is really big and um, lots of things go on here. We have Saturday programs, kids' program where they're being read to and they have little activity and you know, we have different sections. Teen section is really nice. Really, really nice. Have adult section. You have a section where you can go and do your long paper. You can go munch at the cafeteria if a friend happened by. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2363.0,2392.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Which library is that?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2392.0,2394.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Queens Library.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2394.0,2396.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Which one? Which branch?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2396.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: This is on Merrick [Boulevard], it's called Queens Library. Central. Central Library.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2400.0,2404.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Oh, the big one, the main library. Yeah, I've been there, I know. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2404.0,2409.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: And it's nicely kept and everything. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2409.0,2417.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Mm-hmm. It's, uh, many people use that library.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2417.0,2417.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Oh yes. Oh yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2417.0,2424.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: I don't know. Was there anything else you wanted to bring up or say, or -- we've covered quite a lot of, a lot of ground here of your life and your experiences.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2424.0,2441.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: OK. I would like to add that, um, having grown and come this far learning and experimenting and, um, getting help from so many wonderful people in my life, or as you guys, my kids and everything, my personal life, my in-laws, whoever make up a part. I would like to say that, you know what, um, working towards material things is very important and you can have everything -- real fancy house and fancy car, maybe rich, also, uh, whatever. But if you don't know who you are and where are you going and what you want, I don't think life is complete. I mean, that's from my perspective. It's good to work for what you want, it's good to get everything, it's good to just throw back and say, I don't have to work for the rest of my life and things like that. And people do that, people plan in different way.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2441.0,2512.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: But, uh, my kids were calling me busy bee because I'm kind of like always have something going right here. Or, I mean, it's like this program when they heard, I mean, I do program for so many years, they say: Mom. Anyway, that's your kind of thing. Enjoy. 'Cause they always check on me. So what's, what's on the menu? That's what they say. What's on the menu now? What your calendar looks like? And I always have a little something going because I still have a curious mind. I want to know. I want to learn. I want to share not only my experience, but um, my life. I want to be a good friend. I want people to depend on me. If I say, oh, I can help you read, or I can help your child with homework in math, whatever, I'm going to stand by that. I mean that, you know, and because we're all different, we're all different. I need you and you need me and we need each other. If it's to listen, even.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2512.0,2578.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: I have a story to tell right now, if there's time, if you allow me, because I told you, yeah, I was doing private tutoring already. And I was coming home, where they're, you're coming from the library [inaudible] and I cross the street and I get into my section. So I had just crossed over. And there was this lady, she came from, um, Nigeria and yeah. And she said, she didn't know the good English, that's years now. And she said, um, if she can, she did this, and can I talk to you? I said, sure. And I had all my bags and my umbrella and I talked to her and, um, uh, she said her -- they had just come into the country and her little boy was kept back in grade one because of language barrier thing, whatever. And somebody told her, give her my number and told her to talk to me if I can maybe help her child. So we made friend, we talk and she was happy. But what touched me after I told her, yes, I sure will help. I can help, I love kids. She cried.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2578.0,2655.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: I saw tears coming out her eyes and I'm saying, um, I held her shoulder and I said, um, I know what that feels like. I'm a mom of four. And I had to really, really work hard, give up everything I had for their education. And I knew what that was, don't worry. And then she tried to tell me she doesn't know the English good. And if she, when she goes at meetings, she can't talk. I said, when is your next meeting? This is my number. She said, she got my number. I can go with you. So I went to one of her parent-teacher's meeting and I represented her child. Then I ended up taking that child as a student. Today, that child is in college, doing very well.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2655.0,2704.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: And that's out of just, kind of meeting somebody in the street.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2704.0,2709.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Coincidence, I would call it. And, but guess what? I remember, I only, I still had to do at home and whatever. So I didn't, I only had a scheduled time at the library so I couldn't fit in that child, right? So, um, I make time Saturday afternoons where we made friends and she said, maybe she wasn't, maybe she didn't want me to go at her house then probably. So I said, can you bring him at my house? He's going to be safe. And so, and so, and she started to bring him at my house. So I had him on my table and I worked a couple of weeks with him, right? And then, uh, I think I created a space for him, so I could have seen him at the library. And if they went out ever, she would tell me. And then I went home a few times at their house later on, down the line. Then she got another son, years after, and I taught him a little bit also.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2709.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: So, you know, looking back, life is like a meandering road. It's never smooth, it's never straight. But we shouldn't say it's a bad one or it's an ugly one. It may be a rough one, can be a smooth one, but it is how we adapt to all these changing situations that come in our lives. But all in all, I would think with all my challenges and, um, I'm being blessed to have great people in my life today and through learning experiences and, um, being a friend myself to people or wanting to be helpful, or just share a smile, whatever. My little things that I learned and applying them, I think have brought me this far. And I would encourage anyone, just do the right thing. Don't get into trouble. Don't go with the wrong group. And if you can correct someone not to get into trouble, especially kids or teenagers, more so. You may not know how frustrated a child is if you see that child on the road. But if you can say just a hi and break that silence or something, just do it. Because you do not know how that little something can go very far. Like I have proven in my own life, you know?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2760.0,2851.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: It sounds like you're still doing the same thing every day.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2851.0,2860.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Well, if the opportunity arise, or many times, we're being tested. Do we say yes, do we say no, do we this? Um, this is what, February? Well, you know, I don't know if you understand what...in church we have like flyers that we invite people for main service. They come, we had Mother's Day recently and then the teens would have a rally. So we always have something, sharing with the public. You can't go everywhere and share them either, right? So I always have a few in my bag and we have a supermarket not very far from us. So one day I was there and I saw a young mom with her baby in a stroller, and her bottle fell. So I picked it up and give it to her. And she said, thank you and whatever. And I said, hello, I'm Miss Yas, I live there across the what, what, what, and, um, where are you from? I'm from Guyana. Because you have to be careful what you tell people now, right? She says she's from Haiti. So I said alright, she said her name is Magdala. And we talked a little and whatever. So I say, do you have a church? She said, she's looking for a church. Then I pulled out one of my flyers, the address is at the back. And I said, you would be welcome. You can come and visit, we have visitors all the time. We have a mixed congregation and all of that. And we made friends, we exchanged numbers. She asked me for my number, I didn't ask her for her number first. She asked me for my number and I willingly give her. And she, and then she called me, I got her number. And she turned up in church Sunday. How about that? Then, guess what? We had Mother's Day special. I called, talked to her during the week, and she said, sure, I'll be there. She too calls me Miss Jas. Everybody calls me Miss Jas. And she was all dressed up Sunday. You know, and life goes on. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2860.0,2988.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Well, it sounds like she was lucky she met you.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2988.0,2990.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Well, maybe she needed a friend and I needed someone new to talk to, yeah. So life throws at us -- we don't know who is out there, you know, and saying a good morning or a hello or doing a kind deed. You know, wouldn't take anything from us. Just be nice, be kind, share a smile, whatever it takes. So as a retiree, that's what I'm sharing today.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=2990.0,3019.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: It's good to hear, uh, so many, uh, encouraging kind of stories of, you know, what's going on now. And also from the things you've done throughout the years. And, uh, I'm sure you'll continue to be doing this for your, rest of your life.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=3019.0,3045.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Well, I try. We all should try. And I will try, yes. And you know, as I said, my kids call me Good Samaritan because if we are walking on the road and there's a branch, or there's a broken bottle, I bend down and pick it up because somebody is going to get hurt. And that's my nature. I do think like [inaudible], whatever, you know? And, um, it makes me happy. And if I can't make myself happy, who is going to make me happy? That's my bottom line. I want to be happy. God gave me life not to sulk. And there are going to be problems. There are going to be difficulties. There are going to be rough patches, but we're going to mope all the days of your life? No. There is a little good in every situation, and I have seen those little things. Yeah. So I want to be happy. I'm, I know I'm a happy person. I may not have everything I need, but that's OK too. That's OK. I'm happy where I am and for who I am.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=3045.0,3111.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Well, it's been very nice to hear all of these things that you've been talking about. Very encouraging.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=3111.0,3119.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yeah. Thank you, John. You know, when we share our stories, it's, um, it must come from the heart. It must, you know, be the real thing and hopefully it helps someone else or encourages someone else or let the person see, aha -- life is not only a bed of roses. Life does have, have its ups and downs. [inaudible] What do you do with that? Do you bog down? Do you give up, do you go backwards or do you put the foot forward? You know, it does have its challenges. Yeah. So thank you for being my partner in question.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=3119.0,3171.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Thank you for all of those great stories that you have about all of these things. Very, very, as I said, encouraging. Very, very good to hear.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=3171.0,3183.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Yeah, well remember we're not here forever. So let's, our days are numbered, and let's make the best out of them. Right? We could pass that on in little ways. We don't have to go push anything in people's face, or we just have to be nice and kind and happy for other people and happy for ourselves and accept each other for just who we are. Right? Because we're a family, the whole world is a family, and that's how we should see that. And then life becomes easier because we know we can depend on our friends. We can pick our phone and punch a number and say, hi John, how are you doing today? I'm a little down. Can we talk with something? Can we go for coffee? Whatever. We're part of each other. Right? Send a little notes and a card on a birthday or an anniversary. How long, how much does that cost? It's just to bring cheer to somebody. So I want all those little things to continue to be part of me and that I can continue to spread joy and some happiness wherever I go.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=3183.0,3256.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Oh, I'm sure you do.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=3256.0,3261.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: And I'm proud to be a retired teacher. If I had to do it all over again, I would choose to be a teacher, yes. Once I was in Canada -- sorry, our time is up?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=3261.0,3285.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: No, go ahead.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=3285.0,3285.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: Once I was in Canada years back, I have two brothers and a sister in Canada. And you know, you, you have like Canada Day and whatever, like how we have our holidays. They had, and we went with my brother, his wife and I, we went. They took me actually. And you won't believe how many people from Guyana I met, right? Many of whom I taught. And some parents. Lo and behold, I was [inaudible], right? Because the celebration, they were celebrating the food from different countries. They had flags all over. They had like [inaudible] music and it was like a celebration thing. My brother and wife lost me in the crowd, and I had my phone, but they did not have their phone. Because this person was taking me there. And then I went to taste something in that, uh, under that tent, and then I took pictures over here and it was so much fun. I never stopped hearing the end of that from my sister-in-law. You're not going to go with us anywhere else because we get, you get lost. [laughs]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=3285.0,3361.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJasmatie Persaud: But it's because I met so many people, you know, here and there and you want to say hello, you want, they want a picture with you, not because you're important, right? Because you just know each other and, or they know them. They knew them over there, you know, and I'm visiting and they're happy. And then of course an invitation to dinner next day was extended, and that's life. What are you living for? Fun, and enjoyment and connection. And you know, your roots, maybe, probably -- whatever works. Yeah. So thank you.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=3361.0,3401.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962/transcript/30494/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJohn Esposito: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45881/file/118962#t=3401.0,3403.49238"}]}]}]}