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Yes, this is, it's just, you know, considering that it's been a pandemic and everyone was home for so -- it was, uh, extremely busy here. I had, uh, my son and family lived here for three months. They got, and that's where the 6-year-old and uh -- she just turned 4. And then my daughter lives in California. She was here for two months with her husband and baby, and they only stayed two months. They were only supposed to stay a month. Because they couldn't go back to San Francisco because of the smoke. And they overlapped three weeks. And it happened to be wonderful. It was. I also, I lost my sister, so it really helped, um, dealing with that. So anyway, yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=0.0,52.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Um, your sister, what school did she teach in?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=52.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: She taught first at P.S. 25 in Bedford-Stuyvesant in Brooklyn. And then she taught -- and I always get her school mixed up -- 134 or 34 in Hollis. In Queens. Um, which was...she lived in Hollis Hills, and her school was about 10 minutes south of her.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=55.0,78.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: OK, OK. No, 'cause the name [Renee Diamond] was familiar, but she wasn't in any school I was ever in. Yeah. OK. So maybe we should introduce ourselves. Just who you are...?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=78.0,89.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: I'm Susan Glaser. My maiden name was Sobel. And I live in Lloyd Harbor, which is part of Huntington, New York. I grew up in Queens, in Jamaica.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=89.0,103.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: OK, that's good. Um, I'm Rebecca Rushfield and I'm going to be interviewing you and I live in Flushing; well, Kew Garden Hills, right near the college. So. So you grew up in Queens. In Jamaica, when it was...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=103.0,118.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Well, I, I grew up in real Jamaica, downtown Jamaica.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=118.0,123.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Near the \"El\"?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=123.0,123.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yes. My stepfather was a conductor on that El and my mother sold bridal gowns underneath the El.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=123.0,133.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Oh, where all the bridal shops were and shoe stores and... it's funny, because back then Jamaica was where you went for really good shopping, when I was a kid.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=133.0,144.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: We had Gertz and Macy's. And they also had the little stores, but, um...My mother, uh, came to this country in 1930. Straight to South Jamaica, because her family members were living there. It was Italian and Jewish. And she didn't leave Jamaica until like 1973, when they moved to Rego Park.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=144.0,167.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: So you grew up there and went to public schools in Jamaica. Jamaica High School too?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=167.0,176.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: So we lived first near, um, the courthouse.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=176.0,181.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: OK. Got it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=181.0,183.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: And that apartment building was slated for Richmond Hill. And it was tiny. It was...you know, um, my father died when I was 4 and my sister was 6. My mother remarried and my aunt used to live with us. So that one bedroom apartment was really too small. So we...my mother -- who was not educated and an immigrant -- did not want us to go to Richmond Hill, only Jamaica High School. And we moved to a bigger apartment and where we would go to Jamaica High School. And we lived across the street from Macy's in the, by the post office, the bus terminal.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=183.0,223.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right. Got it. Got it. I know. OK. So near the library also, where the library is.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=223.0,229.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: The new [makes air quotes] -- the \"New Library.\" I grew up with the old library on Parsons Boulevard. Which I loved. That was...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=229.0,239.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: What did it turn into? Or was it just left...?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=239.0,242.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: It first became a children's court, whatever you call It.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=242.0,248.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Family Court.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=248.0,251.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Family Court. And then it became something else. And now it's a, uh, it's the front -- it's the entrance to a condo. It's a condominium! They built a whole condominium behind it. Um, because that structure may be landmarked. So they weren't going to take that down.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=251.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right. So growing up in Queens and not, not that far from Queens College, did you always assume you were going to go to Queens College?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=270.0,280.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Um, first of all. Do you, um, do you remember -- I don't know if you were even aware -- there was the SP [Special Progress, a gifted and talented program in NYC public schools]? Uh, I was in the SP.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=280.0,290.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: In the two-year or the three?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=290.0,291.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: I was in the two-year, which was a big mistake, 'cause I had already skipped a grade. Um, and my...like I said, my father died. My mother had us. My aunt lived with us. My aunt worked during the day and my mother was home all day. And then when my aunt came home from -- she worked in a factory -- then my mother sold bridal gowns in the evening. But there was someone always with us. And then my mother remarried when I was 9. And my mother always, we were always going to college. And we were -- my sister and I -- both had to become teachers because of my mother's experience. We needed to have a profession and be home for children because you never know what can happen to you. She came to this country and she was an orphan in two years. And then her husband -- she got married before the war. My father went off to war. He was much older than her, but he came back, she had two children and then he died. And she had no money and no profession and no education. 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Both of my parents were teachers and that was the one thing I never wanted to be.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=380.0,386.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Um, it took me, I think, a very long time to realize that I'm innately a teacher. And so, um, we...my sister was the epitome of the best first grade teacher in history. She was phenomenal. Um, I was an elementary school teacher first. Nine years. Stayed home with my kids for a few years. Um, you know, went back to Queens. Got my Master's while I was, uh, while I was still teaching before I got married. But then I went to NYU for museum studies. My second career was I worked for the Museum of the City of New York. And uh, my third career, I went to C.W. Post [campus of Long Island University] and got a Master's in library science and became a high school librarian.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=386.0,443.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Now you're on your fourth career.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=443.0,445.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: And now, my fourth career has really been my career for 30 years as a volunteer. I run a history research competition. Uh, the regional competition for National History Day.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=445.0,456.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: So maybe we'll get back to that, because that's a very interesting thing, but let's get to Queens College. So your sister went to Queens College. She started before you?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=456.0,466.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Right. So she's, she was two years older than me, but because of the SP I was only one year behind her in school and everybody thought she would be going to Queens College. And, you know, they used to, every year they would change the, uh, average to get in. We're all Baby Boomer kids. It was free. And there were so many of us and they raised it. And by raising that little bit, she couldn't go. So she went to Queensborough for two years, then transferred to Queens. And we had two completely different experiences in college. She was in a house plan at Queensborough, but she never joined the house plan at Queens.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=466.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Now, what made you join a house plan when you came to Queens? Did you join right away?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=510.0,517.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: When I came in, I just knew. I don't remember why, but I went to join one of them. I belonged to a high school sorority, but my high school sorority was not at Jamaica High School. It was mainly Richmond Hill. My friends I grew up with in Jamaica, went to Richmond Hill. Um, only a few, only two went to Jamaica. And, um, so I went down to these teas -- they called them teas -- and I didn't get into any of them. And so I started my own with another girl from Jamaica High School. And we, uh, the name of that house plan was Geisha House. And after one semester I left. Went down for the teas in the spring -- so I started school fall of '65. So in spring of '66, like February, I guess, January, February, I went to all the teas. I made every house plan because now I had like a resume. Um, and I got into every one of them and I chose Doll House, um, and became president. And that really -- like Mickey [Michael Kail] said -- all of that changed my life. Um, it was just an absolute, phenomenal, wonderful experience. You know we -- our experience of Queens was as if we were in an out-of-town school, except that we went home to sleep. We did the most fun things and social things and hung out with each other. We had, you know, like Doll House had, um, an apartment here, an apartment there. The fraternities, the sororities, the male house plans -- they all had a place to go. You hung out. You stayed there. You were thrown out because you made too much noise. They were in neighborhoods. And then you'd find another one. Um, it was that kind of experience. It was, it was just...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=517.0,649.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: So, when you entered Queens College, did you enter with people you knew, or that was one of the reasons you looked for a house plan?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=649.0,657.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Um no, I really, I knew very few people. First of all, my friends who I grew up with, they were a year behind me. And, uh, so I didn't -- my closest friends were a year behind me and so they didn't come in till the following year. So then, by that time, uh, two of them joined Doll House. One went into AE Phi, a sorority. And then I made all these new friends. And a lot of, um, my closest friends today are my Doll House friends. Scattered around the country, and some have passed away already, but they're, um, closest friends.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=657.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: It's interesting because the house plan phenomena -- I came into Queens College in '72, and by then it was all over. So it was so strong. And then it just disappeared, I guess, with the changing...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=701.0,716.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: In my opinion, um, I did student teach -- in those years, I don't know what they do now. In those years, if you student taught you were in your senior year -- it was either the fall semester or the spring semester -- you were off campus. You only came on to speak to your supervisor. That spring '69 was when it was all the sit-ins. That had nothing to do with my college experience. Nothing. It was everything changed from that. And then when I graduated that year -- '69 or '70 -- they started the SEEK program and, um, open, I forgot what they called it. Um...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=716.0,758.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Open enrollment?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=758.0,759.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yes, everything changed. First of all, everything changed anyway, because of the Vietnam War -- everything was changing, and this was looked as, um, a ridiculous, uh, um, way. Everything you should do is political, you know, and not this social thing. And we had the best time. Plus Queens College had a lot of open land. It wasn't building after building after building. It wasn't like an urban campus. Once you got off Kissena Boulevard, you were on this gorgeous campus.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=759.0,797.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right, right. So you had space for carnivals and things.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=797.0,800.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yep. And space to go with your boyfriend to that corner and be on top of the hill and see the Manhattan skyline, you know. And you're surrounded by trees and grass and all of that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=800.0,815.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right. So, did you manage to go to class while you were doing all this great stuff?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=815.0,822.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: So...that was...listening to Mickey. I didn't remember, he was a chemistry major. Oh my God. Um, now, first of all, the classes that I loved, that I worked at, were all the liberal arts classes. I hated my education classes. Um, I should have -- I knew I wanted at this point to be a history teacher, not elementary school. But there were no jobs and that's because so many boys were not going into the Army. So they became teachers and they became history teachers. So there were no jobs. And I needed money. I mean, I had to sell my books each year. I only kept three books that I, I still have. Well, two of them, I had to throw two of them out because they got moldy. But one book I still have and I still look at, which was my poetry book. Um, I kept the Janson art book [History of Art]. I kept my contemporary civilization book. 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But, for a different project, I do oral histories with people who went to NYU, to the Institute of Fine Arts graduate program, and someone who went there -- who will remain nameless -- told me that she knew the Jansons and it was Mrs. Janson who wrote the book.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=884.0,901.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Really? I love, I love that book. My husband went to Queens also. He graduated when I did, he was in Crown House, another house plan. I didn't, we didn't know each other. We met, we met after. And I would talk about -- because the art -- it was required to take the art class. And it was like at 8 o'clock in the morning. I loved it. And they shut the lights and you watched the slides. And my husband says, \"But everybody fell asleep.\" And I said, \"Not me. I loved it.\" It was like...so I, I took, uh, elective music appreciation classes. I, I, I loved all that. And, um, and I have to say, those are the classes I loved. The education classes prepared you to teach in a nice little school on Long Island. Not where I went. They did nothing for me. They didn't teach me. They taught me for the most perfect, wonderful children. I taught in the East Village when it was a hell hole; 1969 to '78. Uh, they did not prepare me at all to teach there. And I resented it immensely. And yet I still went for my Master's at Queens, because I lived in Queens. I would go on the way home.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=901.0,981.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right. So you never, you never thought, \"I'm going to do something else.\"\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=981.0,984.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: No, that's how stupid I was!\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=984.0,987.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: No, you were probably a very nice girl who did what her mother wanted her to do.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=987.0,991.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yes. Right. And I also, I was going to quit teaching after the second year. First or second year. And I did not have parents who could give me any money. And I was living at home. I had to make a living. Um, and I said, \"What, what else am I going to do? This is the only thing I know.\" And so I stayed. And, I have to say, I was in the education department at the museum. And then I became a high school librarian and I loved those two careers. Loved it. Um, a lot of people went to Queens College for their MLS.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=991.0,1030.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right, right. They have a great program.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1030.0,1032.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: It was inexpensive. But I was living on Long Island already. Married, I had two kids and I said, \"I can't.\" And I would just go from the Museum of the City of New York and go to LIU. It was 12 minutes, my house. So right , so that's what I did.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1032.0,1052.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: So, well, while we're speaking about classes and things, were there any professors or courses besides the art history lecture? Do you remember who you had for it?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1052.0,1063.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: I don't remember. No, I don't remember. I, you know, you had to take, uh -- I just loved all the required, the required classes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1063.0,1074.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Even the math?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1074.0,1076.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: The math. Oh my God. I was OK. Not great. I was OK in math until I got to statistics and someone had, one of my friends from Knight House, he had to help me through the class. And, um, when I was in graduate school, I had -- and I don't remember his name -- a political science teacher who was phenomenal. And I remember, uh, Nixon was running for president and he's the one who said, he gave the whole scenario that Nixon will declare martial law. And now we come full circle and Trump, who grew up walking distance from where I grew up, uh, I was waiting for him to declare martial law. And, um, so yeah. I, I don't, I don't remember the names. You know, we had, we had to take a required science class for non-science majors. You know. Um, English. I don't write well. I started out in a remedial writing class. Um, I just listened, Mickey said he took Speech 8, he loved that class. I took speech and the teacher used to say, Susan, or whatever he called me, \"Could you please say this word for us?\" And I would say the word, and then he would turn to the class and say, \"That's not how you're supposed to pronounce It. Because I have such a Queens accent. Right. So, um, yeah, it was...I loved my poetry class. Obviously; I kept the book. But you asked about my schoolwork. I went to summer school every summer because I could not keep a full, full schedule and do all this fun stuff. So, I reduced the number of credits and went to summer school.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1076.0,1192.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: So tell me, so when you -- some of the experiences you had with the house plans. I know like Mickey spoke a lot about, um, the performances.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1192.0,1204.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yeah. The Follies and the Frolics. So, first of all, I have to say, besides all that, they, it was, um, an election for governors. So we had like a convention, uh, you know, uh, for governors. Then we had, of course we had, we had parties and we had dances and we had blind date parties. And I used to -- 'cause I knew everybody -- and I would fix this one up with this one so everybody would be able to go to the party. Um, but we had, the biggest thing was in the winter, in December, you put on these competitive skits. The first ones, for years, they were Follies, sponsored by D Phi E. One year -- whatever year it was -- Kingston House, everybody thought should have won and they didn't. And so Frolics was started by Central House Plan. Not at the same time. Frolics was in the spring. Follies was in the winter, right, in December. And, um, Frolics was like in, I think, May. And the amount of rehearsal time and what you did, it took so long. That's why when carnival came, I couldn't really help with carnival because I was always too busy with that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1204.0,1286.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: So these were full-scale musical performances with costumes...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1286.0,1292.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yup! Costumes. Scenery. You know, you had black lights -- that was a big thing then, right? With the DayGlo.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1292.0,1297.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: So these were sort of more elaborate, like they had scenes in high school?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1297.0,1304.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Oh, much more elaborate. So I'll, I'll tell you a quick. One time we didn't make it, but we were usually, um, we, we had one, um. Oh my God. The one that we finally won when I was graduating in '69 was with Kingston House. And, like Mickey said, it was so important in our lives at that time. I mean, I brought my parents to the, um, every -- well, they came every year. Every time we were in it, they came. Um, but 20 years later in 1989, we had a 20, a 20-year reunion of the \"Yellow Balloon\" skit that we won for. I mean, we're all married. We all had kids.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1304.0,1352.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Do you remember the words now?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1352.0,1353.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Oh yeah. We still, you know we could sing the songs. I kept costumes for years. I used to wear it occasionally for a Halloween party. You know, cut them up or whatever for my kids. Um, it was very, very competitive. One of the girls in my house plan -- my house plan grew to be 104 girls.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1353.0,1374.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Wow!\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1374.0,1375.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Doll House. And it was Doll House and Dew Drop. We were considered the top. And, um, we, the, um. This girl Bonnie, she designed and made all the costumes. It could be like a hundred people. I mean, not a hundred, let's say there's 50 on stage. She made, because she could sew. She could -- she did every -- she was phenomenal. And...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1375.0,1406.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: What happened to her? Did she go into...?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1406.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: She was a math teacher. She wanted to be an actuarian. And her father said to her, \"Actuarian? You want to get married and have kids.\" Um, and she became a math teacher and she did get married. She had three kids. Um, but she, you know, she crochets, she does...she's very creative with her hands.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1410.0,1432.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Can I ask you about -- you said you were considered the top houses. How? So what did someone have to do to get in? Criteria?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1432.0,1443.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Right. It wasn't. You went to a tea, right. Um, nobody pledged. But you came down to the tea and then you had activities to go to for the next few weeks so that we could observe you, talk to you. And then we voted. And, the voting -- don't forget how big we were -- uh, could be for hours and you'd lose your voice because you'd scream about this one girl. It was, uh, it was really...and then we became super large. Um, and it was just, it was great.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1443.0,1477.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: So you took most people then?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1477.0,1477.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: We took in a lot. Yes. We took in a lot of people, Almost everybody. You really, you didn't pledge. [Her husband calls from across the room.] My husband just said, enough to pay the rent. We would have these apartments or whatever, we had to pay the rent. Um, we collected dues. I don't even remember when we did that. My husband said they collected money for Crown House every week. I don't remember when we did it. Um, so I don't know.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1477.0,1510.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right. It had to have been expensive with the performances and the apartments and the events.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1510.0,1515.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yes. And the parties and, you know, uh, apartments. You just got donated, um, furniture or whatever you're throwing out. They got stuff like that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1515.0,1527.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: And were they all vaguely close to the campus? Or they could have been far away?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1527.0,1532.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: We had, the one we had...we had one in Bayside. We had one, um, 164th Street across from the hospital. What used to be Queens General. I forget what they call it now [Queens Hospital in Jamaica]. Um, we had one on Union Turnpike somewhere around 164th Street in a garden apartment. Can you imagine living next door to that? And, um, but we were, um, like, you know, where they have an apartment above a store. You know, that kind of thing. And Ivy House, um, Ivy House was our neighbor when we were on 164th Street across from the hospital. We had one apartment, they had the other apartment above a store.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1532.0,1582.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: OK. I think I know where those...OK.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1582.0,1585.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: You know, so. It was, it was a lot of, it was so much fun. We had, um, you know, a record player and we had, um, records and we had these parties. We would have, uh, Halloween parties and costume parties. And, and of course I was involved also with Central House Plan and I ran two years, um, something called Champagne Ball. So Champagne Ball was in May, at the end of the semester. So when I was, um, 19 and 20, I ran two Champagne Balls with a co-chairperson. So it was two of us running it. One year we had 1,300 people and the other year we had over 1,200. Do you remember the Huntington Townhouse?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1585.0,1641.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Yes. Yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1641.0,1642.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: We had the entire second floor. All the rooms, all the entire rooms, the whole place open for us. It was, you know, a dinner dance with awards. That was where you announced best house plan. And we had...and also, when I was graduating in '69, we had a table. My parents were there and we had a table of parents just from some of us from CHP. We had a table that just had parents there.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1642.0,1673.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: So when you say Central House Plan, that was for all the house plans on Queens College or all the house plans...?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1673.0,1679.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: No. Just Queens. So it was the central coordinating body. Richie [Richard Branciforte] was president. Um, and they had their own office at the CMC [College Memorial Center]. And when I would always go in there, I was always hanging out there. And they had their own newspaper. Um, and they had their own little government and they were in charge of Champagne Ball. And I ran it twice. I got so much experience by doing that. And, um, we had the...I can't remember the first year, but the second year we had the Shirelles. Now, the Shirelles were out of favor. This is 1969, but I remember it was $1,500 we paid the Shirelles. Plus we had a band of music. And when they sang \"Soldier Boy,\" my friend, Phyllis -- who I'm still friendly with -- uh, her boyfriend, Richie Meisel, who was in Kingston House, he wrote on a piece of paper and marched in front of the Shirelles singing, um, something like, \"Get out of Vietnam\" while they were singing \"Soldier Boy.\" And, um, it was great. It, you know, like a regular prom. It was magnificent. We had, you took your picture, you got all dressed up, you wore a gown. All the boys were, you know, like white jackets or whatever. And it was --\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1679.0,1772.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Which added something to a commuter school.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1772.0,1776.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: I'm telling you, it was like being in -- my daughter, my daughter went to Penn and my son went to Tufts. And my daughter would, you know, send a picture...she's going to this, you know, like a ball, but smaller, uh, than what this was. The same kind of thing. We, we just had, um, an awful lot of fun. We rehearsed so much for Follies and Frolics. And I have to say in, um, '68 we were rehearsing -- and I think that may have been the \"Monster Skit,\" I'm trying to think; I'm losing track of, it all blends together -- with Regal House maybe. And, uh, we were at, um, either the Free Synagogue rehearsing and -- you know, in Flushing -- the Free Synagogue or another one. [Calls to her husband.] What's the other synagogue in Flushing where we used to have rehearsals? Anyway. Um, I, we didn't rehearse. I didn't even know him. I knew all his friends, but I didn't know him. I met him in Puerto Rico. Um, so the, uh, we were rehearsing and then somebody said Martin Luther King was shot. And we ran home. We stopped immediately because we said -- first of all, everybody was screaming and it was so shocking. And then we got the hell out of there because we felt there were going to be riots. And so we ran home. Um, yeah, there's, uh, lots of stuff, but, you know, um...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1776.0,1875.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Can I ask? In terms of the house plans, were there house plans that were particularly Jewish? Or ones that were particularly Italian? Or they were all over?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1875.0,1884.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: I mean, most of them were Jewish. There were some people in the house plans that weren't Jewish, but I think, I think they were mostly Jewish. The fraternities and sororities had Jewish ones and non-Jewish ones, but the house plans were generally Jewish. I don't remember that there were any that were not. 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And there was, we also, we had one Black girl in our house plan. I knew her from Jamaica High School. And she came down to the tea and...but she, she had to drop out because her friends were pressuring her to: How can you be in this group? You know? And then so she dropped out. Um, but yeah. And I wanted to make sure, I brought -- I wanted to make sure I had time to mention. Have, has anybody spoke? Well, Richie and Mickey graduated before me. When I graduated, I was also senior class treasurer, which is a joke because I can't handle money. So...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1913.0,1967.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: But you ran the big balls and you can't handle money, and you're a treasurer and you can't handle money?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1967.0,1974.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: So, anyway, it was a position to run for, you know, so, OK. And, at graduation -- that was after that whole sit-in with the protest. Which I had nothing to do with, 'cause I wasn't there. Um, there was going to be the counter, uh, commencement exercise. And my friends and I, the ones who graduated together, we stayed. And I don't know, it could have been a third, at least a third got up and went to the counter-commencement, which is right by where the new music building is. It was like an amphitheater, like a natural hill.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1974.0,2023.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right. I remember that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2023.0,2026.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Uh, Dr. Spock spoke at that, and um...but we certainly weren't leaving. That wasn't our lives at Queens. It was an -- that was really when everything changed. Because Richie was gone already. And so was Mickey. They, they were out. And, um, you know, a lot of, a lot of these house plans that we had, either the parties or the Follies and Frolics, a lot of people -- don't forget, in those years you got, they got married young. I got married right before I turned 27, which was considered old. And, um, we had, younger than me -- the girls who were two years behind me in Doll House -- there were, um, from a Kingston House-Doll House Halloween party where we fixed people up, three weddings. They're still married.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2026.0,2091.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: So were there specific house plans, guy house plans that you were friendly with or that you were linked with?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2091.0,2098.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yeah, it was, um, Knight House and, uh...well, it was, uh, Kingston House, mainly; Knight House, and um, it depends what we did with other people. Like we did Knight House. We did carnival with Knight House, but there were -- I had a boyfriend at Knight House. Bonnie, the one who made the costumes, she married someone from Knight House. So, um, you know, things like that. We, I just looked at my stuff. We had a carnival booth with Tau Delta Phi.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2098.0,2128.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Was Carnival held around Halloween time?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2128.0,2131.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: No. I was listening to that. It was in the spring, because I couldn't give that much time to it because then I would never be in school at all. I wouldn't do any school work.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2131.0,2142.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: But I remember a haunted house.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2142.0,2146.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yeah. They did. Carnival had haunted houses. I always went. It was a lot of fun. Um, and the, uh, you know, I knew, I knew people from house plans all over. You know, I had a boyfriend in State House. I had someone in House of Bamboo. Um, I had very close friends in Random House.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2146.0,2167.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: So after you got out of college and you would go places, like you met your husband, you said, in Puerto Rico. Was the fact that you were both in house plans, something that kind of was...?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2167.0,2179.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: [Laughs] Because he went -- we were, um, he only taught a year and a half, um, obviously to, um, get out of the draft. And then he went into his father's business. Um, but on a teaching calendar I went to Puerto Rico two years in a row, Easter vacation. The second time I went, I met Roy. He went down to Puerto Rico with his Crown House friend, Richie, who I had gone out with. And there were other people from Queens College there and we became one big group of 14. Every day, we got 14. We would use up all the glasses from the bar. And we were all Queens College people.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2179.0,2230.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right. So, but in later years you'll meet people and it's like, \"Oh right. We were in... house plan...\"\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2230.0,2235.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yes. It's also -- the reason it was easier for all of us to stay friends is because most people stayed in the metropolitan area. So, so it's, you know, Long Island, New Jersey, New York City, Westchester. You know, um, upstate. And the people, my friends who are now scattered a little bit, that's because they left the metropolitan area. But everybody -- that's why it was easy to stay in touch.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2235.0,2268.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right. Right. I guess when you went back for your -- do you want to drink something? I'm sorry. When you went back for your Master's, it was a whole different experience.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2268.0,2275.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yeah. That was the Master's, so it was the Master's. And then, for teaching if you got, um, at that time it was 30 credits past your Master's, half of them I took at Queens. And I was considering maybe I should go to law school. I took this seminar on, uh, the Constitution and I loved it, but I'm not a logical thinker. So law school is really not for me. And, um, yeah. And then working at the Museum of the City of New York and running -- one of the things I did there, I ran New York City History Day. I gave workshops around the city.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2275.0,2319.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Can you explain what New, what History Day is?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2319.0,2322.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: OK. It's a terrible name. It's a -- 'cause it's not a day. The kids research for like at least six months. Uh, National History Day, which is located at the University of Maryland, um, they set a theme every year. This year's theme is \"Communication in History.\" And, of course, because of the pandemic, everything is virtual. Virtual contest. But, um, the Museum of the City of New York, um, sponsored it for 30 years and they can't do it anymore because the pandemic is killing these little museums. So, um, the theme is set and the reason -- look how long it's taking me to explain this! That's why it's very difficult to get publicity for it. So the students, grades junior division, 6 to 8, senior division, 9 to 12. Um, you can, um, demonstrate your research in a paper, um, a website, an exhibit like a tri-fold boards. But big boards, not little boards. Uh, performance and documentary. And you could do it as an individual or a group. But if you write a paper it's only an individual.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2322.0,2398.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right. And this is all original research and...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2398.0,2401.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: It is. It's just phenomenal. I've loved it for 30 years. Uh, and the kids are great. And I judge at the state level and I judge at national. So...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2401.0,2413.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Does each school have like a History Day advisor who works with the students?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2413.0,2420.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: It's up to -- that's, it's up to the school, really; the teacher, the school -- if they're going to do it because most people don't do it. I mean, around the country, it's like about a little under 700,000 kids who do it. New York City, out of all those kids, out of all those schools, there are maybe -- there were maybe -- um, 35 schools. Townsend Harris is one of them -- the one that's right by Queens College. Um, on Long Island, we have about 50 schools that do it. But, um, we probably have -- not this, forget this year because of the pandemic.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2420.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: But in a normal year.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2460.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: We have about 5,000 kids across Nassau and Suffolk County that do it on a school level. And a lot of schools have to have their own competition because they can't send everybody to Hofstra. It's sponsored by Hofstra. Not this year, though. Sponsored by Hofstra. Um, and so the competition is held there.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2460.0,2482.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: So the winning, the winners -- what happens? 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I mean...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2524.0,2527.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Because that seems a shame. These must be great projects.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2527.0,2530.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yeah. They're online. I mean, they're on, uh, you could see a lot of examples of winners. Um...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2530.0,2538.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Because I'm embarrassed to say that before I read about you and your bio, I knew nothing about this.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2538.0,2544.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: No, right. It's, it's held -- it's held one day. So it's held on a day. And then when I was at the Museum, I used to have my exhibits on display for a month at the National Archives. They...really not too much else is done. That's not done anymore, anyway. I used to drive around the city, picking up exhibits and bringing it there. 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It's not a spelling bee where you can explain in a 5-second soundbite what it is.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2575.0,2584.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: You can't say, \"student history competition\"?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2584.0,2589.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: It, they don't care about history. Americans don't care about history. They only now care about science and math. And a spelling bee because it's 5 seconds, you understand what it is. I hate spelling bees. I think it's ridiculous. And this is really such skills. Um, it's just, um, the work that these kids do is...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2589.0,2611.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Now let's say the students who are winners, do they then go on to great things? Great things is a stupid thing to say, but do they, then...?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2611.0,2620.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: They -- research is research, so it doesn't matter what kind of research it is. I mean, so many of these kids, um, go on to bigger and better. I mean, my -- I, when I was at Commack High School as the librarian and my kids that I worked with on History Day there, this one's an oncologist. This one works for a, um, Council, Councilwoman in Manhattan. This one is, uh, um, uh, what do you call it? Ph.D. in public health. She's, no, two of them are in public health. They just go on. They were very smart, and you don't have to be the best to do History Day, but a lot of these kids, um, it's really, it's phenomenal. And then I went, uh, when I was at the Museum and I used to give workshops around the city for teachers -- because not everybody wants to come to the Museum on Fifth Avenue and 104th Street. And I would give a workshop at Queens College because Jack Zevin is -- he's still, I think, in the History Department -- it was through him. He was a judge for us, and it was through him that I would come there and give workshops to Queens teachers. And um, yeah, and I also, I was...because I was President and very involved at Queens, it really set my path, you know. At my temple, I was very, very active. Um, in my, um, I'm still -- I'm retired 13 years. I'm still active with my school library group. So I went to the, uh, Library School at Queens and spoke to classes, uh, two years about why they should join a professional organization. And I also spoke about History Day looking for judges, because Linda Cooper used to be head of it. And she was originally a librarian at Commack.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2620.0,2737.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: What made you leave museum education and go into libraries?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2737.0,2742.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: I want, I started looking for a full-time, like maybe, education director or something, uh, in the city because they had the best museums -- certainly not out here. And, I realized I'm going to have to travel three and a half hours to make $40,000. And is this really worth it? And I loved running -- I was, um, my title was Coordinator of School Outreach. And so part of that job was -- and that was part-time. I wasn't full-time. I was full-time when I ran History Day. And when History Day was over, I went back to part-time. Um, it's research. Research is research is library is Master's in Library Science. That's...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2742.0,2791.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: OK. Can I ask you about school outreach? Because in, uh, one of the things with museums now is they're trying to expand their audiences and get more diverse audiences and get people in who don't ordinarily go into museums. Like school outreach in New York, you've got diverse student population. Were you, were you success -- OK, so you would go, I'm sure classes came in. Were you successful in getting students to come back again without their classes, to think of museums as places they could go or that were for them?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2791.0,2827.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: What, what they -- I mean, I've been, I've been out of working in a museum for...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2827.0,2831.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: I mean back then.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2831.0,2834.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Back then, they made -- because they were in East Harlem -- they really started then to have an effort to reach out to that community. And they would give them free passes. And then we, we went into the community with programs and made programs for them to come back. Um, we, they, it was really pushed in the community through the school district. Um, and they really developed a wonderful relationship with -- that was District 5 --um, with the local schools around there. It was also the museum. And across the street, what is, um, Museo Del Barrio. So between the two of them, it was a tremendous outreach to the community. And that's what they do. They really...I mean, of course now, nobody's having any kids come in. But reaching out virtually, you know, the Museum of the City of New York also has...I mean, I was still affiliated with them like for years and years, because of History Day. Um, they run, um -- I forgot what it's called -- Saturday Academy; that's for like high school kids in the neighborhood who come in. And they, they've done a lot of very special things with their community. And that's the way a lot of museums try to reach out, um, to, uh, to their own community, to make it very easy for them, with...or they would give out, um, like certificates. You and your parent can come in for free. Right. But do you know that there's a consortium of 32 museums? It's the buildings. Those -- not all, you know. Not the Whitney, but the Met, the Museum of the City of New York -- New York City owns those buildings. So therefore it's a suggested price, donation to come in. It's not an entry. You don't really have to pay. Because they're city-owned buildings. And the people who work for the City in those museums are the guards, the maintenance people. Those are City employees, but the people who work for the museum are not.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2834.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right. Oh, that's interesting. I didn't realize there were that many that were...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2970.0,2977.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Thirty-two.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2977.0,2977.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: I think some of them are historic houses.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2977.0,2981.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yeah. That's the whole Historic House [Trust] of New York City. That may be a little different. But, um, but yeah, that's why even the Met will say \"suggested donation.\"\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2981.0,2991.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Very small.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2991.0,2992.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yes. Right, right. Um, but they're all in trouble now. Because there's no money and no audience and no tourists and...you know, it's bad. But, um, yeah, it's uh, I, I have to say when I started teaching, I was, I taught on 12th Street between Avenue B and C. And I used the museums as an extension of my classroom. And we went for nine years. I also taught two years on 3rd Street between 1st and A. For nine years, I took my classes once a month on a trip because we could use the subways. I didn't need a school bus.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=2992.0,3034.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: That made a difference.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3034.0,3035.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: And that's what led me into museum studies. Because I just love the museums. And, uh, it really was an extension. I mean, we didn't have to go to a museum. You know, one time we just went to the local fish store and he cut open the fish to show us the organs of the fish, you know, and stuff like that. When we could get a bus, then we went further away. But, um, and you know, these were city kids. They could go on the subway. You know, it was safe. It wasn't taking like kids from out here who'd never been on a subway and bringing them in and then they, you know...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3035.0,3073.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right. I'm trying to think. You know, this is great, but since theoretically this is for Queens Memory, we probably should get back more to Queens. 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And they lived, uh, in these garden apartments in like Forest Hills near, um, overlooking the lake in Flushing Meadows Park.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3125.0,3144.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Oh, I know those. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3144.0,3144.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: On the Forest Hills side. Not the other side. And then -- so he was supposed to go to Forest Hills High School and then they bought a house in Flushing. So he wound up at Flushing High School. Knew nobody. Was miserable. Although the one friend he made there, he still is friends with. Um, and then when he got to Queens, it was like, well, now it's a fresh start. And I think he was pretty happy. He joined Crown House and that's where he has still -- same as me -- his friends from Crown House. Um, when they, uh, when the library, the Rosenthal Library, they put together the, uh, exhibit, you know, I loaned them stuff and he has...I have to ask them, they gave me back the wrong Crown House shirt. They gave me back a red one. He gave them, um, on display a blue one. And, um, yeah, it was, it was a great experience. He did Follies. 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My friend from Regal House, he was always the lead in Regal House. I'll tell you a story what we did. How times are different. I mean, this is how serious. We did a Monster skit. We won third place with that. And we were dressed up like, um -- you know, he was dressed up like a vampire. And we had these capes. Bonnie made all these capes and, you know, stuff like that. OK. So, I really don't remember the premise of the whole story, but the leads -- not me -- the leads, uh, were flying in from Transylvania. So they went to LaGuardia Airport. Were able to film inside an airplane with Dave, as the vampire, sitting in the cockpit. And then they filmed them coming down the staircase from the plane. Can you imagine? Right? 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I loved Jamaica High School. I was active also there, but I was not in that in-group. That sorority, those sororities. Um, but I, I loved Jamaica High School. It was, it, it was great. And there is no Jamaica High School anymore. The building is there, but -- and it's very, that was a Bloomberg. I liked Bloomberg for some things, but I think he was a disaster for education. You know, it's a failing school. Well, see how it's failing? I'm not going to give it any money and you'll see how they're going to fail. And guess what? They failed even more. That's what he did. He did that to Franklin K. Lane [High School in Brooklyn]. He did that to Jamaica. 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Everything changes, but...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3508.0,3511.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yeah. It's such a completely different place. Um, you know, I wouldn't have gone to college if it wasn't free.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3511.0,3520.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right. I think about how, when I just got out before it, tuition was instituted. And it makes a big difference.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3520.0,3532.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Sure it does. When I took my first class for museum studies at NYU -- and it was a four-credit class -- it was $222 a credit. And the girl who took my credit card -- I mean, I was married, I had kids already -- she took my credit card. As if she cared what I said to her. And, um, I said to her, \"Do you know that this $888 is more than I paid for my Bachelor's and Master's combined?\" Because when I started the Master's -- I finished in '72, I went through fast -- 'cause I wanted raises from the Board of Ed. You know, I had to go through fast and get more money. 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And you had three chances to take it. I didn't do it the first time. And so that meant I only had two more chances. And you know what happened? They got rid of it. But, that liberal education was what I valued and loved and gained so much out of that. Um, and then they got rid of required classes, like all over, everywhere. You just didn't have required classes anymore for a liberal arts education. And that I felt, I always found that to be a shame. 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So they did bring back required courses.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3711.0,3725.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Some. Right. They, uh, um, it, I was at...we went on a tour, Laura Abrams or, or what's, uh -- Sara Kahan, took, uh, me and two of my friends from Doll House. We went on a, uh, we went through Queens and we walked all around. And when it was over, we went into the music building and my friend Helene's cousin used to teach in the Music Department and I had him as a teacher. So she, we went into the building and we asked is, um, Arbie, Arbie Orenstein or something like that? Is he -- I think that's his name -- is he still a teacher here? And they said, oh yes, he's in room so-and-so. We went up to his room to say hello. That was too much. That was when, well it was before the pandemic. Maybe a year and a half ago. So yeah. I loved it. Loved it. You had to take, uh...you were supposed to play piano if you were teaching elementary school.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3725.0,3787.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Oh, right. Yes. I remember.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3787.0,3790.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: But I didn't play piano. So I forgot, you had to take something else. I didn't, I wasn't, I didn't play piano. I actually played cello in, in junior high school and high school, but not piano. 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It was, it was a terrible time. It was terrible. My, um, my District 1 had a pilot, um, music program, but it was the smartest classes. You know, it was homogeneously grouped. So every Christmas, I used to give my kids kazoos and we would play music with the kazoos 'cause they weren't going into the orchestra class. Um, yeah, it was, um...it was a very different time. [Telephone rings] Wow. I would hope my phone wouldn't ring while we.. .I'm not answering it anyway.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3810.0,3858.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: We could probably do a whole different interview on being a public school teacher back then.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3858.0,3865.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Yeah, it was, uh, and I have to say, when I left, I said, \"I will never walk into a school again, unless I have to feed myself.\" So when I, when I went for this job at Commack High School as a librarian, not a classroom teacher, um, I said, this is so funny, and I loved it. Loved it, loved it, loved it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3865.0,3893.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Is Commack a fairly well-funded school?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3893.0,3896.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: It's a great school. My kids went to Syosset and I always say -- which is Nassau County, and Commack is Suffolk County. And, um, I always say Commack is a Syosset wannabe. It's a great school district. I, I loved it. I thought it was, um...it was about the same size as Syosset. It was a wonderful school district and they, um, started an IB program there, International Baccalaureate, which requires that you have a very well-funded library. So it was phenomenal. It was, it was. And a great staff. It was wonderful. It was, it was the complete opposite classroom experience. I loved the staff where I worked in my other two elementary schools. It was just very difficult because you got no help, you know? And then the City went broke, so you really got no help. And, um, but that's, I'd like to end on a, on a great note.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3896.0,3959.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: OK. Let's see.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=3959.0,3962.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: You asked me if I knew Gary Ackerman. So I wound up knowing like everybody. Um, Paul Cohen, Gary Ackerman, Ben Fine. They were all presidents of the Student Association. I knew Paul Cohen when I was in high school. He ended up being in Crown House with my husband who I didn't know, but I knew Paul. Um, Gary Ackerman, I knew then. He wound up, he lives -- if he still does, I don't know -- in Hollis Hills. And his son went to school with my niece, because my sister lived in Hollis Hills. So I. And you know, then Gary became -- uh, at one point he was my Congressman when I was living in Jericho. They always changed the borders. And Ben Fine was the boyfriend and then eventual husband of Lois Levine, who was the president of Doll House when I went to the tea. And I looked at her as my idol. 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That was...and for that they did a great job and I don't know if Richie -- you know, the, you know, the, um, the dome building [Campbell Dome] by the...?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4059.0,4071.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Yes. Yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4071.0,4071.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: We called it SS building. It's the Powdermaker Hall. Right?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4071.0,4075.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Right.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4075.0,4077.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: The, the Follies skit that they did, that was -- or Frolics, I don't remember -- that was so phenomenal, Kingston House did with Dew Drop on the dome. That these aliens came from planet Cubist to Earth, which is round. And they were trying to find out, how do you make round things? Because they came to this dome. And they wrote a whole song about pi is the answer, you know, to making things round. You know, we -- Crown House had a skit on Atlantis. I used all of that stuff with my kids in the days that public schools, they had to put a play on. Right? My kids, we had DayGlo paint and I made the costumes. They were the Atlantis skit. Um...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4077.0,4132.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Were any of these skits ever filmed?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4132.0,4135.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: You know, Atlantis was. That I know. Someone in Crown House has the Atlantis skit. I am sure someone has Crown House skits. Richie Branciforte, he's, you know, he was always so good at stuff. Um, so I'm sure there are. We don't have, um...I wonder if we have a film of the Monster skit. I have to ask Dave.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4135.0,4159.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: OK. 'Cause that would be wonderful for the archives.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4159.0,4163.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: It really would. Because then you have an idea of what we're talking about. I mean, the Yellow Balloon skit was so...it was, it was really, it was, it was unbelievable. Um, it was about idealists versus realists. So the idealists had clown costumes with clown makeup, and the realists were half white, half black. Your shirt was half white, half black. Uh, it was, you know, it was a lot of fun. It was great. And I used a lot of that stuff when I was teaching.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4163.0,4197.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Well, that was great then.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4197.0,4201.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: Um, and I guess that's about it. I'm sure you have, I hope you have other people to interview.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4201.0,4208.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Oh yes. Yes. This is fabulous. If you turn up any of the films...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4208.0,4213.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: I will let you know. I'll send an email out to people later.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4213.0,4217.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: And if there are any people from your college days who you think we should interview, please let me know.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4217.0,4224.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: OK, I will.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4224.0,4225.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: One day we'll do a, an interview about teaching in New York City schools.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4225.0,4232.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: I was not prepared.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4232.0,4234.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: OK. All right.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4234.0,4236.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: I have to say that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4236.0,4237.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: It's been great.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4237.0,4240.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: All right. Well, have a wonderful end of 2020.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4240.0,4246.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: Let's hope 2021 is a much better year.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4246.0,4248.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Glaser: It will be. They have the vaccine. And so. And hopefully we'll move on with our lives. And, uh, just mourn the loss of all these people who died. Horrible. All right, thank you so much.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4248.0,4264.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/transcript/23729/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nRebecca Rushfield: You're welcome. You too. Bye-bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=4264.0,4269.31198"}]},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/annotation_set/373","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Notes from Susan Glaser [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/annotation_set/373/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAs a retired school librarian, I have to tell you what the QC Klapper Library was like in only one aspect – the large study hall where there were dozens of cubicles where you could study. Well, the library employed aides to patrol the cubicles – and their main job was to throw girls out who were wearing pants. QC changed dress regulations for girls midway through my years. A girl could be in The Caf [the student cafeteria] with pants but not the library. I used to sit with my legs crossed in the cubicles and the library aide would patrol and kick me out. Amazing to think something like that happened. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1063.0,1074.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/annotation_set/373/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe fabulous central meeting place for everyone was The Caf – each organization had their own location and tables. We sat at the same tables every single day. We were right near TEP, the fraternity; SDT, the sorority; and Random House. Kingston and Dew Drop Inn were across from us. In those days we could have hours in between classes so we spent a lot of time in The Caf. That’s where a lot of plans were made with the male house plans. Tables were set in long rows. One time, maybe 1967 or 1968, one Doll House girl started scratching her abdomen. She lifted her shirt and noticed a rash – and then one girl after another, on both sides of the table, started to lift their shirts and noticed a rash – it was a measles breakout. I think we had eight girls who got it at the same time at our Caf table. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1443.0,1477.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256/annotation_set/373/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eWe also had Mother Daughter luncheons – one that is a lasting memory is the one we had at the Playboy Club in Manhattan. Can you imagine mothers and daughters at the Playboy Club on a Sunday afternoon being served by Playboy bunnies? Hysterical! I think that was in 1968.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/38951/file/110256#t=1477.0,1510.0"}]}]}]}