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After playing professionally for several years in France and the U.S., Marquis embarked on a 30-plus-year career on Wall Street, again forging a path in a field where women, especially women of color, faced many obstacles. More recently, Marquis has worked in higher education and is known for her advocacy of women’s causes. She currently serves on the board of the Queens College Foundation.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eIn this interview, Marquis shares her recollections of growing up in St. Albans, where she played a variety of neighborhood sports before being introduced to organized basketball in high school. She recalls the inequalities between the boys’ and girls’ teams, and how Title IX slowly began to improve those conditions. 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OK. So before we start, Gail, I just need to ask if you agree to the terms and conditions outlined in the Queens Memory informed consent and copyright permission form that I shared with you over the mail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=0.0,20.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Yes, I completed it and I agree with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=20.0,22.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: OK, thank you. So, my name is Fran Kipnis, I'm with Gail Marquis, and we are recording on February 16th, 2023, for the Queens Memory Project. And Gail, could you say your full name and spell it for us?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=22.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Yes. My name is Gail, G-A-I-L, middle initial is A as in Annette, and last name is Marquis, M-A-R-Q-U-I-S. Gail Marquis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=40.0,51.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: OK. So I want to start, by thanking you for participating in Queens Memory. You've made historic contributions to women's sports and women in general, and a huge contribution to Queens itself. And, as I mentioned, I'd like to start by asking about your childhood and teenage years in Queens and then we'll talk about your basketball career, starting with Queens College and life after basketball. And a little bit about where you are now. So can you start by telling us where and when you were born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=51.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Sure. I was born in New York City in Manhattan. I was born on November 18, 1954.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=90.0,96.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: OK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=96.0,96.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: At New York—it was New York Hospital at the time, I think it might be New York-Presbyterian now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=96.0,104.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: OK. And you were raised in St. Albans, Queens. Is that correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=104.0,109.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Yes, that's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=109.0,110.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Can you tell me a little bit about the neighborhood, your friends, elementary school, what types of things you did as a kid, what was it like growing up there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=110.0,122.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Sure. I was the middle child of Salathiel and Geraldine Marquis. I had four—at the time, I had four brothers and sisters. My oldest brother Paul and my older sister Joan, and then below me was my sister Ruth and younger brother Leon. And all seven of us lived in the same house in St. Albans. Growing up, it was a two-family home. The seven of us lived on the second floor, and on the first floor lived my grandmother and my father's three sisters, Aunt Val, Aunt Lorraine, and Aunt Sigrid, along with my grandmother, Helen Marquis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=122.0,162.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: On occasion my grandfather [Joseph Marquis] would come home. I think he lived in the Bronx, but, you know, families were a little broken up at the time. But when he would come back after having worked in the Bronx—he had work in the Bronx so he could do that—Joseph Marquis would return, but it was a pretty nice and safe neighborhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=162.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I remember playing in the house a lot, but mostly our parents always said, \"Get outta here, get out in the street and be home by the time the streetlights came on.\" So I played a lot of street ball, meaning, punchball, running games, hiding games with the neighbors. We had a lot of children in our neighborhood, which was good. And they were not too far away from where we lived.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=180.0,203.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: My mother's younger sister, Aunt Flo, lived about five blocks away and she had five children. So, those were my cousins and along with Uncle Lloyd, her husband, and he was a firefighter. And so we had plenty of friends to play with. Plenty of cousins. We had other cousins that lived nearby. So it was a big arsenal of just children, all different types to play with and to grow up with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=203.0,229.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: My father worked for the U.S. Post Office, the postal service system. He would go to work at night [in the evening], so he maybe didn't leave the house until 4:30 or 5 o'clock at night to go to work. He worked at Grand Central—at the post office at Grand Central Station in New York. My mother was a stay-at-home mom, a homemaker, and she pretty much stayed at home because of the nature of all five of us growing up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=229.0,255.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: At the time we all went to public schools. So maybe my older brother was in high school, while the younger three, we were in elementary school. We'd come home for lunch or maybe my youngest brother wasn't even in school yet. So it was a lot of activity. And my parents, you know, they managed. I don't know how they did—I could never do five kids, that's for sure [laughs]. That's for sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=255.0,279.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I always went to public—all of us went to public school. None of us went to private schools or the Catholic schools, or there were no charter schools that I knew of. We went to public schools and three of us, maybe all five of us graduated from the same high school, because the family originally lived in the Bronx. But when they moved to Queens, that's when I was born—even though I was born in Manhattan—but I'd never lived in any other house except that house in St. Albans, Queens, New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=279.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Why did your parents move from the Bronx to Queens? What was that transition for?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=310.0,315.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I imagine my father had the G.I. Bill 'cause he had been in World War II. So my father had that G.I. Bill, and between he and my grandmother, they were able to finance—to buy this two-family house in St. Albans. My grandmother also, on a side note, she owned a candy store in Harlem where they lived between Harlem and the Bronx. And she had some problems with, you know, sometimes I think they wanted a little graft. People would come in and ask for money and, and I think one time somebody shot at her, you know, meaning the Mafia, she would say, wanted their cut for the, for the week or the day, however they collected. And I guess the gunshot was enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=315.0,359.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: So they packed it up and they found a house in Queens. My father would still commute. His sisters were all in nursing. All three of my aunts were in nursing, and they were nurses at a very high level, at different area hospitals. And so until everyone got settled, we all lived in that home, the seven of us on the second floor, and the three aunts and my grandmother on the first floor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=359.0,383.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Wow. OK. And then tell me, when did you play sports? When you were in elementary school, middle school, or high school? Tell me about how that started.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=383.0,395.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Well, I always played in the street. You know, we didn't even live near the playground. We just let the car, you let the cars go by. We lived on 117th Road, so it wasn't major traffic there. So yes, there were a few parked cars on the sides because you would have street parking, but they were all homes. So there were all individual homes. People had their driveways, so their cars were in their driveways, a lot of kids around. So we would just play different games in the street or on the front steps on the stoop. I didn't play organized basketball or organized sports. I didn't play organized sports until I got to high school. There weren't many things for girls anyway, in the 1960s or '70s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=395.0,441.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Also I was active in Girl Scouts. My mother was a Girl Scout leader. A troop leader. So she got us involved, the girls in Girl Scouts. I think even my younger brother was in the Girl Scouts because that's how she could keep an eye on him. He was the last one who went to Girl Scout camp. 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They would take attendance, but then they would send us home because they didn't have teachers to teach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=459.0,500.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I got very frustrated with high school. I didn't like it. I'm already making that transition from junior high school to high school. The change in the friends, the change in the teachers, the change in the whole getting up early and taking a bus to get to—all of that, all of those changes kind of wore on me. And we didn't get back into regular classes until maybe November, I think. And when we did get back into regular classes, our day was so long. My day went from, I don't know, maybe 7:15, 7 in the morning until 3 o'clock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=500.0,538.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I also went to the local, or the closest, high school, Andrew Jackson High School [in Cambria Heights]. I went there because I was a music major. I played musical instruments from the second grade [to graduation from high school]. So I went to that school—one because it was close by, I wanted that high school. They had a music program. And I played the clarinet. And then once I got to high school, I just expanded, played other instruments. But in high school, my day was so long, I was very frustrated. I didn't like school. I thought about dropping out in the ninth grade. My sister Joan she kind of talked me out of it because she said Daddy would not have that. He would go crazy or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=538.0,579.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: So I was there a long time, a long day. They [the high school] started to have clubs. They did not have teams for girls. They had teams for boys. They did not have any teams for girls, but they had clubs. So I would go to the basketball club or later on I would go to the softball club and then the track and field club. And that's how I got into organized sports.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=579.0,604.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Also in that ninth grade of high school, either my aunt or my uncle—my mother's sister, Aunt Flo, encouraged me to go over to the Catholic school [St. Catherine of Sienna], where their children [my cousins], went. And they had an organized basketball program where they had [a schedule of] games to play and they had a coach and everything. It was [part of the] CYO, Catholic Youth Organization","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=604.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: That's what sparked me to [decide], “OK, I'm going to stay in high school. I'm not going to drop out.” When I got home from school at 3 o'clock, I would change and run down the block, maybe two blocks to go to the Catholic school. And there I could play basketball with a whole set of girls I didn't know. And then when I would go back to high school, I would play on the club team, which was just playing in the gym. But that's how I started to hone my skills.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=630.0,653.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I had a coach at the Catholic school. I was the tallest one [on my CYO team], I was about 5' 11'', even in the ninth grade. I was that tall. He nurtured me—Mr. White was his name; he nurtured me on the team. He got me to focus. Of course I was tall, so I was successful. I didn't have much [in the way of basketball] skills, but I was successful and I always liked to compete. So that was probably the start of my competitive years. My ninth grade into the tenth grade at high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=653.0,687.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Then they started to have more organized sports and teams for girls. They had something called the PSAL, the Public School Athletic League. It had been going on many years for boys. It didn't really start for the girls until probably 1969, '70, that they organized a few sports for girls. One of the first was basketball. And then later on we had softball and then track and field. And we were able to play against other area schools. Now mind you, I think our basketball season was about six games. So we had six opponents that we played. And really probably three or four, because you had a home and away series. That's how limited it was. But for me, who came from nothing, you know, we had a schedule, we had a season. We had little, little gym uniforms that we wore with the number on the skirt. So it was organized in that sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=687.0,745.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: And this was all pre-Title IX, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=745.0,748.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Yes, it was all pre-Title IX. That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=748.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=750.0,751.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I'm glad you mentioned that. Title IX wasn't until—we just had the 50th anniversary. So we're looking at 1973, '74, for Title IX. And, this is all pre-Title IX. It was just in the neighborhood. It was just local. It had nothing to do with Black-white because no girls had teams. So for that reason it was good that was starting to get organized. But I could also see the differences, the separations. The boys played on a larger, a longer basketball court because the girls' gym court, our gym court was much smaller, or at least two-thirds the size of a full court. So if you can imagine running and conditioning, when you played on a full court, it was different. Those were some of the changes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=751.0,800.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And then to get court time, I remember in high school we had an organized game against another high school. And our high school coach was unable to use the full court. The boys' basketball coach would not allow us to play on the boys' court, which was the full court. And we had a game with an outside opponent. So I started to, started to notice the differences, started to notice the pushback from other men—not so much boys my age—but from other men—established, who would not allow us to use the court, use the facilities, having secondhand facilities, things like that. That's when that started to pop up, in high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=800.0,847.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: And then how did you react to that? What did that mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=847.0,850.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Well, I started to notice it and I knew it wasn't right. You know, separate but equal is not right, because it wasn't equal. I was a little bit more vocal when I got into college because it was more blatant. And in college, our team that—Queens College—our teams were better record-wise, scoring-wise, and, what we were achieving was at a higher level and more successful than our male counterparts. So in college, not to get too far ahead of us, I was a bit more vocal and, would speak out. And if I didn't say it to the coach, I might have said it in a TV or a newspaper interview that I could see the double standards and I didn't like it. So that's when I would kind of speak up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=850.0,897.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: So let's talk a little bit about moving on to Queens College. Why did you decide you wanted to go to Queens College?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=897.0,904.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Well, I lived in Queens. There was a newspaper called the Long Island Press. That was the newspaper. And on every Sunday, there was an article [column] with Carolyn Kane, that was the reporter. She would report on girls' and women's sports. She had one little section of the paper, only on Sunday. And she would do all the sports from girls to high school, to college—all of the sports in maybe two columns. You know, now I'm not talking a full page or anything. It might have been probably, two columns and then maybe, I don't know, a hundred, 200 words? And she got it all in. So I would always look at that and say, \"But why isn't she reporting me at Andrew Jackson? Because we're doing pretty well.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=904.0,956.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I wrote her a letter at the newspaper. She wrote back and said that she could not get out to our games. She would write about Queens College and the great players there, but she could not get to [Cambria Heights, where my high school was located]. She was just one lady. So I would tally our points and what we scored and send it to her. And I would start to do that. And, a little while later there was a little piece in the Long Island Press in Carolyn Kane's article about Andrew Jackson High School. Gail Marquis, top scorer, and Vicky Clark and Charlotte Hammond. And then she'd write it all down. And so that's, you know, that's how I learned about Queens College for one thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=956.0,998.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And so there came a time where I'm finishing up high school, we're doing well, our team in high school, Andrew Jackson. We would go to the playoffs at the end, but we would lose the first game because we never got out of the Queens shell. We never got out of our neighborhood. So you might think that you're the greatest player because you are on a good team in your neighborhood and you've beaten everybody else in your neighborhood. But then when you just step out and play those girls in Harlem, we got toasted by them. \u003claughs\u003e At Brandeis High School, it was like, woo. So you thought you were good until you left your neighborhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=998.0,1039.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: So I decided—I mentioned to you there were five children in my family. So there were no scholarships. There was little financial aid. My father put five of us through college—my mother and father put five of us [through college]. I chose Queens College because they had the best [basketball] team. It was local. It was part of the City University of New York. They had open enrollment. It was affordable. It wouldn't break the bank. [Video freezes for several moments.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1039.0,1070.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Gail, just—you froze for a second. So just go back and repeat that sentence about the coach. Just say that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1070.0,1077.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: OK. So I had mentioned that my parents put—sent five of us through college. And I picked Queens College because it was local. I had to get the coach to notice us. Because again, they didn't come out to recruit. You had to get them to notice you. So I wrote a letter to the coach of Queens College, Lucille Kyvallos, because I had her name. It was in that article with Carolyn Kane in the Long Island Press. And I wrote her a letter and I said, \"Our high school team, Andrew Jackson High School, we're very good. We have this many wins and all. We would like to play against Queens College basketball team.\" So we got a date together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1077.0,1118.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And my college coach—my high school coach, her name was Fran Gioia, G-I-O-I-A, that's how you spell her last name—that was our high school coach. And she took us up to Queens College on a Saturday—me, Vicky, Yvette, Charlotte, Debbie, the whole team—and we went up to Queens College to play against this great Queens College basketball game, basketball team, so that their coach could see me and, hopefully I could get recruited. So we played and we thought we were playing against the top Queens College team. We were playing against the JV and we still got toasted. \u003claughter\u003e But at least we got a chance to play. I scored a couple of points and so I got them to notice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1118.0,1162.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And I applied to Queens College, the same open enrollment program like everyone did. It was affordable at the time. It might have been like $60 for a semester to go to school, which was good because my other sister was in Hunter College. I had a sister behind me. She was on her way to Columbia University [Barnard College]. And little did I know, my younger brother was getting ready for NYU [New York University]. They were the smart ones—the ones behind [who graduated high school after] me. And my older brother had gone to New York [Institute of Technology]. [Big sis graduated from Hunter College and later joined the Peace Corps.] So I enrolled, I got accepted. My second choice, if I didn't get accepted at Queens College, was going to be John Jay College of Criminal Justice. That would've been a turn!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1162.0,1206.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1206.0,1207.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Because I probably wouldn't have played basketball—I wouldn't have played basketball at such a high level and I would've gone down a different, law and order avenue or venue, that's for sure. So I think about that sometime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1207.0,1218.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1218.0,1218.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: But I applied, I was accepted to Queens College. It was hard in the beginning. Again, that transition, this time from high school to college. I had to take two buses, two public transportation. My classes were early and then just to get acclimated. They didn't have a lot of support around, you know, getting freshmen in and keeping track of them and make sure you enrolled in the—there wasn't that, the way it is now. So I commend Queens for that. But I was able to manage and get in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1218.0,1252.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And I tried out—I had to try out for the basketball team, and I was selected for the Queens College basketball team. And part of that transition, which was hard, was those practices. They were long, they were three hours of practices at Queens College. The coach, Lucille Kyvallos, was very intense. Sometimes she was mean. She yelled, oh my gosh. And I complained a little bit to my mother, who was not a sympathizer with me at all. She said, \"You wanted to go there, you listen to the college, you listen to that coach, you listen to the lady.\" So I did. And I, you know, I enrolled and I was selected for the team. And just the drills, and just learning the process, all of that, all of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1252.0,1303.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: The first semester my grades were not very good. I think I might have had—I might have carried 12 credits. And one class I failed was mathematics. Another class I enrolled in, it was a three-credit course, but if you didn't get a certain grade, they only gave you one of the three credits. So that was low. And then who knows what happened with the other two, I guess I passed. So that first semester and the second one—and then, you know, being with the team and just all of that, my grades were not very good and I didn't have that support that you can get now for any kind of student. But I made it through, you know, I didn't drop out, and it probably took a year or two for me to decide what my major was going to be and the way things worked. But I made it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1303.0,1356.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: What was your major?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1356.0,1358.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: It ended up being secondary education and psychology. Years later, I wish I had done something else, but those were my majors. So I was in and around the Fitzgerald Gymnasium. I was around there a lot. And then my minor was psychology. So I think I was in the social science building. That was my area. And maybe a little bit over at some of the G buildings or the letter buildings and Remsen Hall. Because within the physical education major, I also had a lot of biology courses, physiology courses, physiology of exercise, biomechanics. And all of that was great because it came into play—the biology courses and dissecting different animals and things like that, all of that came into play later on. So those were my majors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1358.0,1404.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: And your teammates from different high schools from all over, what were the level of skills? Were they comparable to you? Like, did you feel you had more training in high school than the other girls did? Or how did that all come together?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1404.0,1421.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I think in high school, not to be selfish, I think my skills might have been a little bit better. But it wasn't that much head and shoulders above them. No. But I do think there were some in my high school that I was a better player—more athletic and more agile. Even when we went up against different schools, like playing against Springfield Gardens High School or Richmond Hill High School, I thought I was better than some of the other players.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1421.0,1453.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: One other interesting thing in high school is that I had to play, or we played as a team, we played six-player basketball. So there were three players—there were six girls on the court. Two of them on offense, and we could only stay at that half of the court. Two of them on defense, you only had that half of the court. There's a center line. And there were two girls on our team who were allowed to go across that line. I was not one of them. I was the offense—offensive player. I only could stay on the offensive side. Thank goodness that was only in my 10th grade. When I got to 11th and 12th grade, we played more full court up and down so I could put more of my athletic skills into place. But that was a little different challenge because it limits your skills when you're only playing half the court, half the game. But by the time I got into my 10th and 11th grade and started to play better and did more offense—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1453.0,1508.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And plus the other sports. I also played softball. I played, I was on the track team, so I did different running events and I also did some of the field events as well. And I competed outside on PSAL track and field. Public—no, PAL, Police Athletic League, the PAL. They had a team. I competed on that in some of the different track events. I would [put] the shot put and [throw] the discus. And then when I got to high school—later on, because they didn't really get girls' sports until maybe when I was in the 11th grade—I got a chance to compete in more track and field sports at that time. But I did think that, to go back to your original question, I thought I was better than—more athletically gifted than some of the others, but not that much. Not like I was head and shoulders above them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1508.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: OK. And did—so Title IX happened when you were on the team?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1560.0,1566.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: When I was in college, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1566.0,1568.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: And what changes did you see when that happened?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1568.0,1572.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I knew there were changes outside. I didn't see any changes that affected me while my four years at Queens College. I remember that no scholarships were offered. Queens might have offered financial aid, but in the same token, what was it? It was $60, $70 for a semester. So, I didn't see any effect there. And, maybe the coach, Lucille Kyvallos, could speak to more of what we were allowed to do or what we got. But I'll tell you, I didn't receive too much per diem for meals or transportation. The university—the college did offer us our uniforms. I had to buy my own sneakers, I think, and everything that went with it. They just gave us uniforms. I had to buy my own warmups, meaning long pants and jacket. I had to pay for those. And our team would collect money and we would pay for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1572.0,1632.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I don't think the men's team had to do that. Maybe we got more time on the court at Fitzgerald Gym. They have two courts in that field house and one of them has the clocks and the lighting and the nice trim around. So we at least had the chance to alternate between the men's team and be on that court at different times so we could practice. I think one great thing that happened my freshman year, 1973, was that we hosted the national tournament, the National Basketball Championships for AIAW. That stands— that was our league, our governing body of women's sports at the time. A-I, the Athletic, Associate—Association of Intercollegiate Athletics for Women, AIAW. That was the governing body for all women's sports from swimming, basketball, softball, track and field—on the college level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1632.0,1694.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And so when Lucille Kyvallos and Queens College decided to host that national championship in 1973, it forced the college, or it forced the team, or it forced the league, to kind of spruce up the place. And so I remember the court, the Queens College basketball court, got a nice paint job, meaning just the lines were a little bit clearer. And then we also had the adjacent court. If you ever go up into Fitzgerald Gym, there are sliding doors. It's a regular field house. When we were playing—when we were at practice, the doors would be open and there's a full track that goes all the way around. So there would be, there'd be so many things going on. There's a full track going around. And you'd have the track coach barking out orders to the track team. And then on the opposite coach, or court, might be the men's basketball team or vice versa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1694.0,1753.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And then there would be guys or gals over there [training in] high jump or pole vault. So there were a lot of activities going on. And if it wasn't maybe men's basketball playing, it might be the girls', excuse me, the women's team doing volleyball. So many, many activities going on in this field house at Fitzgerald Gymnasium. So I noticed that year when we did host the national championship, they spruced up the place a little bit. They cleaned up the bleachers and all, but to me it was still bigger than my high school. It was my freshman year. I thought it was like this all the time. But as we went on to play other teams and do other activities, it was different but still enjoyable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1753.0,1804.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: And what are some of the highlights of your time on the Queens basketball team? What are some of the things you're most proud of or that were the most exciting for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1804.0,1814.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Wow. It is so many. Yeah. I realized—years later, I realized that, you know, the time that I was there was such a good time. So much was happening that hadn't happened before. First of all was that national tournament. You don't always play the national tournament. We had 16 teams that host—we were the hosts, but there were 15 other colleges that came in from across the country. Most of them I had never heard of before. Yes, there were one or two that we played during the regular season, like Southern Connecticut State College, not UConn, Southern Connecticut. And of course the perennial champions, Immaculata College. They were there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1814.0,1853.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: One thing that coach told us—Lucille Kyvallos told us—was that even though we're hosting, we want to make sure we win our regular season and have a high standing. Because if you don't—you know, you're going to get in the tournament because you're a host, but you don't want to be playing against the number one seed in the tournament right off the bat and get knocked out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1853.0,1874.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: So we wanted to make sure the whole season long that we played very well, had a high standing, high ranking, and so we'd get a good spot in that tournament, which we did. I remember that hosting and teams I'd never heard of, of course players I'd never heard of before. But I did learn after that, that you can't second guess anyone just because you don't know. I just assumed after that anyone that makes it to those tournaments is good. And just leave it at that. Whether you've seen them before, heard of them before, or played her or I saw her before—no, no, no. It all starts from zero. So that national championship and the fact that we—we hosted and we went all the way to the end. We played in the final [championship] game against the then national, repeating national champion, Immaculata College.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1874.0,1924.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: We lost by about, I don't know, maybe 20 points, but just the support of Queens College. The bleachers were pulled in from both sides. They opened up those doors. They had bleachers behind our bench, bleachers in front, all on the side. Just the whole community came together. And again, my freshman year, I'm thinking it's like this all the time. \u003claughter\u003e And it was beautiful. We had nuns, you know, beating on their pots. We had—the Queens College ice hockey team will always be my favorite, [including] the Honig brothers. They came in there. They were cheering. We had guys cheering. It was just that whole festive atmosphere. That's one of the first things I'm most proud of, or so proud of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1924.0,1969.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And then because of that publicity or that high level of play, our college was involved in a few international games as well. So there might be the international team from Taiwan or the People's Republic of China would come to America, would come to New York to play. And we would play against them. Usually we played at Pace College because that was in lower Manhattan, New York, and not too far from Chinatown. And so we would go to that game to play the team from Taiwan or the People's Republic or the Chinese Airlines. Sometimes they would have teams and we'd play against them. And if we didn't bring our own parents with us, it was a sea of Asians all around. \u003claughter\u003e Red lanterns, nothing in English, all kinds of—but it was a very, very good atmosphere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=1969.0,2019.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And to start, we would always—that's when I learned about the international play. They would give us a gift [both teams would exchange gifts between one another]. It might be an American flag, or it might be a little bag with candies or sweets. And after the introductions, both teams [lined] up opposite, and we would exchange the gifts at half court and then we'd go ahead and play. We did that for a few years. We would play against the international teams. By my sophomore year we had a great game at Queens College where we played against the then national champion, Immaculata College.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2019.0,2055.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: They had a 57-game winning streak, and they came to Queens College. Coach Kyvallos really drilled us, drilled me [leading up to the contest]. Long story short, we were able to win that game—break their 57-game winning streak. I scored the winning basket with about 16 seconds left to play [in the game]. For me, that sophomore year was a game-changer. After the freshman year—at the end of the freshman year, Coach Kyvallos called me into her office [for a] season-ending talk. She said, \"I recommend that you go to basketball camp.\" Now, I didn't know what a basketball camp was. I told you I was a Girl Scout. My mother was a Girl Scout leader, and my brother was a Girl Scout. We were just Girl Scouts. We could whittle, we could pitch tents, we could sleep outdoors and stuff like that. I didn't know what she was talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2055.0,2113.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: She gave me the name of this camp—Pocono Invitational Basketball Camp in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. I went there during the summer. Made my way there [on a Greyhound bus]. And that was really life-changing, basketball-wise, because I learned what I didn't know about the sport. I learned fundamentals. I got a chance to compete against players who were, who I had competed with—against—in college. Still my opponents. But I also started to learn different skills. The fundamentals of the game. When I returned from that camp—I just didn't go for one week. They asked me, \"Can you come back and work another week?\" Yes, they paid me. And then I would learn there were other camps in the area. So I would go up, have a chance to go work at other camps and play against other players and just increase my skills.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2113.0,2162.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Then I come back my sophomore year, and I think Coach Kyvallos could see there was a difference between night and day. Because I broke into the starting lineup. I played a lot more. She was asking more of me and yelling at me more. And it was just, it could be stressful, but we made it through. So when we had that game against Immaculata, you know, I had been building to that—little did I know, all along. And we played that game right at Queens College, and we broke their 57-game winning streak. I scored the winning basket. You know, it was just all that went with it. So that was another big moment for the college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2162.0,2203.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And then every single post-season, every single March, our team would qualify for the national tournament. And we would play the local teams, the state tournament, we'd play the regional tournament, and either we won or our rival Southern Connecticut State College, they won. It was just, one year they would win. The next year we would win. My junior year, they won. My senior year, we won. And that was the back and forth. But then we'd get to the national tournament, and those were great highlights.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2203.0,2236.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And those—that's what I think led into me asking Coach Kyvallos, Ms. Kyvallos, \"How come we're not playing at Madison Square Garden?\" Because again, I didn't see any difference between our team, the men's team, the New York Knicks. And how come we're not playing at the Garden? And having come off of that national tournament, and then having come off of that 57-game winning streak and defeating the national champs, we got a letter from—Lucille Kyvallos received a letter from Madison Square Garden, Sonny Werblin [chairman of the Garden], saying, \"Would you play? Come compete and have a game?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2236.0,2273.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And then, you know, Coach Kyvallos, Ms. Kyvallos, she picked a team, Immaculata College. And February 17th, I think it was, February 16th [correction: February 22], 1975, was the first time they had women's basketball played at Madison Square Garden. And Queens College, we were right there in the mix. And so we played that game and I got to play at Madison Square Garden, Queens College played at Madison. We took Queens College to Madison Square Garden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2273.0,2301.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: What did that feel like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2301.0,2303.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: It was -- it was unbelievable. Because I'd been watching the New York Knicks since before I joined Queens and to be on the same floor that Willis Reed and Walt Frazier and all those greats had played on. And thank goodness we had a practice maybe the day before or two days before on that Madison Square Garden court, so I could get all my jitters out, get all the nervousness out, find the dead spots on the floor, you know -- just marvel in the magnitude of where we are, to get that out the day before or the two days before. And then we go on that Saturday to play the game at Madison Square Garden. And you know, I invited everybody that I knew. All my cousins were there. All—I think I sold about 25 tickets or bought 25 tickets. Family was all, all in there for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2303.0,2354.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And we had the game and we got there early. So again, we were warming up. Nobody's really in the stands. Then we go back underneath the stand, you know, people start to come out. And after we have our pre-game talk, Ms. Kyvallos is talking to us, we're still focused, we come out and who do they put on the speaker system but Helen Reddy's \"I Am Woman, Hear Me Roar.\" Kind of corny. But it really hit the spot. And as we, you know, as they announce our team and we're coming out of the tunnel onto the court, people are going crazy. And you hear Helen Reddy singing, \"I Am Woman, Hear Me Roar.\" And we just get into that, you know, that rhythm of play—of warming up. And we start the game. We play the game. It was out of body, because sometimes you don't even realize what's going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2354.0,2407.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: But it was a great, great game. And years later, I could probably find people today who will tell me I was at that game, or I took—or my father took me to that game, or I took my daughter to that game. I still run into people like that. It was that kind of impact that we made on girls and women, and men that have daughters. We made an impact on them. So you know, we lost the game. So you can be mad or pissed at that. But the fact that we made that part of history, we remain that part of history, that was very good. And I'm always pleased that I can give that back to Queens College among so many.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2407.0,2450.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: So tell me then a little bit about your path to the Olympics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2450.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Right. Well, it came through Queens College. After my sophomore year when I scored that winning basket, my visibility went up. And it was just the beginning of USA basketball or our country putting together governing bodies. And again, because of Title IX, finding a place for women's national teams. And so I was invited to try out at a national—for a national team the summer after my sophomore year. A letter went to Ms. Kyvallos and she turned it over to me. And I was invited to a training camp in Maryville, Tennessee. So I had to get the money together to fly to Maryville, Tennessee. I went to the tryouts. This was for, I think, the World University Games. And I went and tried out to be on our USA national team. And I didn't make it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2460.0,2516.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I wasn't selected. There might have been 50 girls—50 women there. And they cut it down. And at the end, they only took six of the people that were there. Little did I know politics-wise, they had their eyes on others. But that was the start of me playing for our country and playing, or trying out for, our international teams. The following summer, I tried out for the Pan American Games, Pan Am Games. So that was after my junior year. I went again and tried out in a different part of the country. I was not selected. Got frustrated—but all those frustrations and the politics around it, because I may not have been selected because I didn't hit a shot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2516.0,2563.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Maybe I wasn't selected because I came from the East Coast or because I was an African American. Or they had enough women from the East Coast. Or we really had our eyes on these girls from California. Who knows? Those are the politics that I had no control over. So good, I'm starting to learn that there are certain things you can't control. But what I could control was that I would be ready, and I made sure I was ready. So all those times I would continue to go to the summer basketball camps and match my skills against other players. And also learn from the guest coaches and coaches who were there teaching skills.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2563.0,2602.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: You know, with Ms. Kyvallos and Queens College, it was more of a team setting and a team flow. When I would go to the summer camp and teach other players, teach young girls how to play, I might be teaching a 9-year-old how to do a layup. You know, step with this foot, step with your left and go up and jump in the air with your right and follow through. Or I might be teaching how to rebound or, you know, catch a ball and box out and hold out your opponents. And what really helped me was for me to receive teachings from top-level coaches, usually male college coaches who might've coached at Villanova University or coached at University of Penn or Glassboro State, things like that. So I had these men who would come in to teach the entire camp, but I was taking skills. I remember one taught me about one-on-one moves, individual moves, how to get open for your shots. How to—how to make a shot, you know, your hand—all of those things I was learning during the summer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2602.0,2668.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: So when I would go back to Queens College, I was ready to go. And it was a certain part that Queens College was not teaching me—the individual part, they couldn't teach me. Coach Kyvallos would teach us the team—teach me the team settings of it. So to get back to your question around my international play, after my senior year or during my senior year, they had the tryouts for the USA Olympic basketball team. And the tryouts occurred regionally. So we're in New York. They had a tryout for anybody living or going to school within New Jersey, New York, all the way up to the state of Maine. That was one region. And then they had another region, let's say Pennsylvania down to, I don't know, Georgia or something like that. They had regions across the country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2668.0,2721.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I went to that tryout. It was held up in Connecticut at the Southern Connecticut State College. And I went to the tryout, and there were about 250 girls and women who were there. And the woman who was running the trial, her name was Jeanne Rowlands. She had been the coach at Northeastern College, or Northeastern University. She came out and said, \"Out of all of you, we're only taking five.\" Only taking five out of about 250 girls and women who were there. So I've been there before. I've been to these trials before. And I said, \"OK, it's on.\" And went through the drills. The drills were only—the trial was only from Friday night, I don't know, let's say you got there to start at 7 o'clock Friday night. And it ended Sunday at, you know, 2 after lunch, they had another open set. That was it. From Friday, all day Saturday into Sunday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2721.0,2778.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And they would make their cuts along the way, and they would have area coaches who would look at the players. Again, nothing I could control. I just try to focus on what I can control. I can't control—I can't control how other players play, or I can't control the predeterminations of some of the selection committee, but I can control what I can do. So I went through those drills and I made it through all the different cuts every day. At the end of Friday night, they made a cut. So they might have cut down from 250 down to maybe 200, 200. Then the next day, Saturday, different drills. They started again at 8:00 a.m., ran us all kinds of drills. And you could tell through the drills until the end of Saturday night, they had it down to maybe 50, come back tomorrow. And then those 50 would come in and broke us up into squads and had us playing. They would switch us around different matchups. Gail, I want you to play against this one. Donna, I want you to play against that one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2778.0,2838.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: At the end of the day, they had selected the five of us. And as a sidebar to that story, I had been going to these tryouts and I told—in my senior year, I challenged my starting five. It was Donna Chait Geils [later Orender], it was Althea Gwyn, Valerie Snyder was another one of our guards, and Sharon Manning. I said, \"You know, you gals are good too. It's not just me. And I challenge you to come to this tryout.\" And they said, \"Oh, [imitates sounds of a group conversation].\" Yeah. I said, \"You got—listen, you all are good.\" I said, \"And, I bet you y'all will make it to the finals and if you don't, whoever makes it, you'll owe me an ice cream.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2838.0,2878.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: All four of my teammates—Donna, Val, Althea and Sharon—made it to the final 22. That's how good Queens College was, that our starting lineup made it to the finals of the Olympic regional trials. Now Althea Gwyn [and I] were selected along with Carol Blazejowski and Dottie McCrea; she went to Monmouth [College]. Carol [was in her sophomore year at] Montclair [State College, both in New Jersey]. And a high school phenom named Janice Thomas [JT]; the five of us were selected [from the Northeast region]. This was in April. The national trials [would be held] in May [at Central Missouri State College in Warrensburg, Missouri]. So what's happening at Queens College in May? Final exams.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2878.0,2919.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: So I ended up—I told all of my professors that I was going to these Olympic tryouts. And if I made it, I was staying, because I was going to be on the [Olympic] team, but if I didn't, I would be back. But if I made it, I'm not coming back [to complete final exams nor finish the semester]. And I had all of these final exams from [classes in] biomechanics and physiology and exercise. Out of all those classes, only one [professor] passed me, and it was in sociology. It wasn't even my major. He was the only one that passed me and gave me a B. All of those Phys Ed teachers gave me incompletes [in my courses]. All of them. [No, they did not fail me, but they did not give me a passing grade either.] I had 15 credits of incompletes that I had to deal with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2919.0,2959.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: But ironically, I went to the Olympic team. I went to the training camp. I went to the trials. And again, they had about 50 people—50 women and girls there, and about 50, 55 people including the Pan American team from the year before. And that team was there, those 12 players. And they didn't even have to go through trials. So that was the competition. Started on a Monday. They ran us. They made cuts on Wednesday and sent half the group home. I was still there. I'd been there before, though, so I didn't get cocky or anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2959.0,2994.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I'd been there before and I've seen, you know, what they could do or not do. And the politics were still there. I went through the trials. I remember playing against—and again, they would say, \"Go one-on-one. I want you to play against Nancy Lieberman, one-on-one.\" Which I did. I beat Nancy. \"Go play against Pat Summitt.\" Played against Pat Summitt one-on-one. Beat Pat Summitt. \"Play Annie Meyers.\" \"Play this one.\" I won all of my one-on-one matches, whereas a year ago, two years ago, I did not win those matches. And so at the end of the five-day training camp, they said, \"Thank you very much.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=2994.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I went back to my dorm room and I was packing my bags to come back to Queens or, you know, I—because I had been cut so many times and defeated so many times, I just figured it again. But, you know, not to give you all of the ugliness of it, I was packing my bags and Nancy Lieberman came in. And Nancy was another high school phenom from Far Rockaway, New York. And she came in and we were the only two from the borough of Queens. And she said, \"Gail, congratulations. We made it.\" And I told her to \"get the F out of my face. I'm sick of your silliness and everything.\" And I was packing my bags to go home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3030.0,3070.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And then, Carol Blazejowski came in and she was a top scorer in the country. Played in Montclair State. Her face was red and everything. She had been crying. She came in, she said, \"Congratulations.\" And that's an opponent. You know, that's—we were not friends at the time. We were hard opponents. And she came in. \"Congratulations.\" I said, \"Oh shoot, it's for real now.\" So I started unpacking because I'm going to be on the Olympic team. And I do remember after being selected, a lot of people were angry because they thought they should have made it. And I just stayed in my dorm room and just processing what had happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3070.0,3111.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I didn't even look at that list on the wall that said who made the team. I never looked at that, because I was afraid. One, I was certain that my name wasn't on there. And two, if I did look, I would say that, \"Oh no, they made a mistake. They're going to find out they made a mistake and they're going to send me home.\" So I just didn't even go near the list to see. I waited for Nancy to tell me, for Carol to tell me. And I stayed in my room. I remember coming out close to 1 in the morning, and I called my mother to let them know, \"I'm not coming home tomorrow. You don't have to pick me up at the airport. I'm staying.\" And, you know, she was happy, although she didn't quite understand, or to her it was just another game. \"OK, she's not home right now.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3111.0,3152.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And then I called Lucille Kyvallos and it was in the middle of the night. And—you know, I said, \"Ms. Kyvallos, I made the team.\" She said, \"Oh good, you are an alternate.\" So they would have 12 players and then they would have three alternates just in case somebody got hurt. At least you would stay there for two weeks and learn the system. So she said, \"Oh good, you're an alternate.\" And I said to her, \"No, no, no, no, no. I'm not an alternate. I'm on the team.\" And I remember that pause and that quiet. I'm on the Olympic team. And I think—I think that's when she realized who I was and what she had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3152.0,3191.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3191.0,3191.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I'm not sure that she realized it the other four years before. And I made the team. I didn't come home. I stayed. And May rolled into June, rolled into July, and it was just non-stop basketball. And that's how I made the team and stayed with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3191.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Wow. Well what an amazing story. And that was the first women's team in the Olympics, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3210.0,3219.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: It was the first time they had women's basketball at the Olympic Games. They had never had a team before. This was their first one. Ironically, the USA team had not won in the World Championships the year before. So they had not qualified for the Olympics. Our team [representing the United States] was put together in the month of May. We had to [qualify as a team by playing] in a qualifying tournament in June in Toronto, [at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario,] Canada. We played against other countries—Bulgaria, Poland, Mexico, Cuba—who came to North America in order to qualify for the Olympics. We played in the round-robin tournament and we won. We played Poland, we beat everybody. We played Bulgaria, Cuba...and it was my [second] dose of international competition. We played everyone and our USA team won.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3219.0,3277.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: So that qualified us to go to the Olympics. And so we're up in the Toronto, Canada, area where they had the competition. We stayed at a university there, at McMaster University. We were there for probably a week in this tournament playing—playing folks. And then we won. So that was up in Toronto, Canada. So we stayed in that area. And a lot of this I didn't know until years later. We ended up at Rochester University, I think, or Rochester Institute of Technology. And we go into this dormitory. If you've ever been at sleepaway camp where they had those mattresses with the—plastic mattresses so kids who pee the bed, it doesn't really, you know, hurt that bed. We had rooms like that, tile floors. It was an empty kind of barracks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3277.0,3333.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I just—I just thought—I kept my mouth closed. I said, \"I bet you the boys are not like this. I bet you the men are not like this.\" But I kept my mouth closed. I didn't like it. But years later, I found out that [ABAUSA, the governing body of international basketball in the United States at the time] did not think that we would qualify [for the Olympic Games]. They did not have a place for us. They didn't have uniforms for us. They didn't even have a budget for women's basketball. Our coaches and manager were good friends with Kodak, the regular [camera] company, because they were a sponsor of women's basketball. They used to give out the Kodak—or host the Kodak All-American team and give out the Kodak [All-American] trophies. And so up in that area of Toronto, Canada, coming back down into Kodak country in New York State, George Eastman and Hunter Low [were big names in] Rochester. That's where Kodak was [headquartered].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3333.0,3392.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: They said, \"Come to Rochester. We'll get you situated at one of the area colleges. You can practice there. You can relax there.\" George Eastman had his estate. I remember we went there for, you know, just to lay around the pool and decompress. We went to Niagara Falls, and I had never seen Niagara Falls. And that was another little outing. So they would try to do these trips for us. They took care of all the meals. So we ate, you know, food was fine and everything. But not till years later did I know that they didn't have funds for us. They didn't have a place for us. They didn't have a budget. They didn't think we would make it. They had nothing for the women's team.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3392.0,3432.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: On the men's side, you know, OK, they have everything. At least the liaison for the men's team, he gave our coach—our manager—his credit card and just said, \"Take care of everything. Just put it on my credit card.\" His name was Bill Wall. William Wall. And so that's how we were able to sustain. We stayed there for about a week. And then we went to the staging community in Plattsburgh, New York, which was a staging community just before we went across to Montreal, Canada. But that's—in Plattsburgh, that's where we got our uniforms, our gym bags, all of the USA gear, because we needed our dress uniforms for the opening ceremonies as well as our team uniforms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3432.0,3477.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: We received tons of sneakers. I had so many [pairs of] sneakers, which was wonderful. Because, no offense, coming from Queens College, we only had one pair [that had to last the entire basketball season]. They gave everybody Puma, Converse, Adidas—everyone wanted you to wear their shoes, so they would give them to you. It was wonderful. Socks. Red, white and blue underwear. It was 1976. It was the [bicentennial] of our nation's independence from 1776. We had so much red, white and blue. So much Liberty Bell, American flags [all over]. They just took care of us. And I loved that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3477.0,3513.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I had per diem, which I never had at Queens College. Or if I did, it was never enough. And I thought I was rich. I had, they gave me $7 a day. Seven times seven is $49. I would give our manager a dollar so she can give me a $50 bill, which I never cashed. Which I just did not. You know, I was very frugal coming off of—being part of the City University of New York. You just did not spend like that. But those were all of the treats. Those were all of the perks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3513.0,3541.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3541.0,3542.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Those were the early ones, which I'm glad they let me have those. They let me have them because I didn't have them before. We just, we just didn't—I didn't grow up like that. So that was a really big plus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3542.0,3554.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: And then what happened at the Olympics?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3554.0,3557.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Well, leading up to the Olympics, after the staging, you know, maybe the next day, we get on the buses. We go to Montreal and they get us housed in our units. And '76 was the Olympics after 1972. And unfortunately '72 was where they had the incident of the Israeli athletes who were killed in Munich. And so, security in Montreal was very, very tight. We were in a building, which was like an apartment building. So you step out of your—our three-bedroom apartment that had housing for 12 players and a kitchen and a sink. One, maybe one and a half, two bathrooms. It was an apartment because after the Olympics, people were going to live there. It would just be regular housing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3557.0,3604.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: But I do remember there being a woman with a machine gun or firearm, security right outside of our door, right on that whole floor all the time. All the time, tight security. We were still able to move around because we had already—we were already contained. But when we would go anyplace, we always had military escorts with us as a team. So the first team event that we had was the opening ceremonies of the Olympic Games. And so they told us what the—where they had given us our dress blues to wear, our dress uniforms, which to me were a bit confining because we had been in only shorts and t-shirts and sneakers for the last three months. We had beautiful, dress blues, white. They wanted us to wear this scarf. The ladies had a scarf. The men wore blue suits, white shirts, a red tie. We looked great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3604.0,3658.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: We were in this park, the staging area outside of the Olympic arena. And it was a bit warm. And we had those jackets on. It's July. You're trying to be orderly. And we were kind of all messed up. I mean, you had the gymnasts and the wrestlers and the smaller in height in the beginning of the line. And then it went all the way back to where you had the women basketball players, maybe women volleyball players, the men's teams, men's basketball. But we were all intertwined. But it just went by size order. There were about 300 of us between players, coaches and team managers, trainers. The whole USA delegation was about 300. And we were kind of raggedy looking. I mean, we look good, but I'm tired of this and I'm, you know, all of this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3658.0,3709.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: But as we approached the Olympic stadium for the Olympic opening ceremonies, we started to fall into place. And I remember as I looked left and right, I couldn't see the ground anymore. I just saw people. There were just so many people looking at us. And we were in Canada, French Canadian, and some of them were saying États-Unis. Some of them were saying USA or Oossa [phonetic]. They would say that also. But as we started to march to the stadium, we kind of got in place. I don't know, we started to look like a team. All 300 of us, we were in step.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3709.0,3743.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And it had a big, huge opening. Big opening. It was dark. But as you're entering that tunnel to go into the Olympic arena, and you can kind of hear the noise at the other side. We get in the tunnel. We make that turn into the arena and it's daylight. But you step in there and it was like, he announced us in English. He announced us in French, États-Unis. And then he said, the team for the United States of America. I'm like, gosh. My gosh. And—and just the pulse of it all, just to walk in there, make that turn. And we're walking down and our officials were there. Presidents were there. I remember the Queen of England, she was wearing pink. A pink pillbox hat. She had her purse on her arm. Pink gloves because she was waving at me. They said, \"don't wave.\" I waved. They said, \"don't take pictures.\" I took pictures. I didn't care. What you going to do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3743.0,3804.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: But—but we came in and you make that whole circle around and people are just screaming for us. Which is, it was—that's when I realized I made the Olympic team. There were so many practices. There was so much pain. There was so much at you. Sometimes there were flare-ups. But when I—I walked in the opening ceremonies and went through that dark tunnel and then into the light and I said, \"Oh my gosh, you made the\"—that's when I—that's when I knew I made the Olympic team. Not through all those practices. Not through those training camps. Not through the qualifying. Not in the dorms. I said, \"Oh, you made the Olympic team.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3804.0,3844.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: And you all won the silver medal, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3844.0,3847.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Yes, we did. There were six teams, six women's teams. And it was sort of a round robin. So we competed, we played against all the other five teams. And we lost our first game at 8 a.m., we lost to Japan. So we were a little dejected around that. Then we beat the host country, Canada, and Bulgaria. And then we had to come up against Russia, the Soviet Union [USSR]. They had a woman on that team [who stood] 7 foot, maybe 7 foot 2, and about 400 pounds. Her name was Uljana Semjonova. Oh my gosh. I thought my daddy was big. She was huge. She was easily two times the size of any person I'd ever seen in person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3847.0,3893.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And it was funny, I had watched her play the day before and I'm sitting on the sidelines at one of the tables where the reporters would sit. Because I never liked sitting up in the [stands]. I sat right there, you know, close to the court and Wilt Chamberlain came down—that Wilt Chamberlain—he came and sat next to me. And I couldn't get over that Wilt Chamberlain is next to me, so I couldn't even look at him. And I'm watching the game and then Wilt Chamberlain says to me, \"She's too big.\" He said, \"Damn, she's just too big.\" He said, \"You've got to take her out. You have to take her out.\" \"Yes Wilt. Yes Wilt.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3893.0,3928.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3928.0,3928.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: \"Y'all get rid of her.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3928.0,3929.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3929.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I'm still looking at the court. I couldn't even look at him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3930.0,3932.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Right, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3932.0,3933.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: The next day we played against Uljana Semjonova, and we played hard. Our coaches would mix up the plays or mix up the defenses. They tried—we ran a zone. So not to get too technical, we had—we had one or two people in front of Uljana and one person who was supposed to slide behind her. And so that she—when she would turn to the basket to shoot, she would hit you and you fall down, it would be a charge. OK? And she'd get a foul, and maybe we could get a couple of fouls on her and get her out the game. We ran that play one time, because when she turned, she fell on [my] teammate, Trish [Roberts]. And then Trish is on the floor with this 400-pound woman on her. And I'm on the sideline saying, \"Get her out. Get Trish out. Get\"—I'm standing up there saying, you know, and Trish is crying and trying to crawl out of there. Ah, well, needless to say, we ran that play just one time [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=3933.0,4001.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4001.0,4002.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Then we finished the game. But Russia persevered by about 25 points.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4002.0,4007.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4007.0,4008.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: But then what happened was that in this round-robin scenario, Russia—Bulgaria played against Japan. And we had lost to Japan—that was one of our first games—we lost to Japan by whatever. But then Bulgaria went in there and beat Japan. And so the coach came to us and our last game was against Czechoslovakia. And she says, \"If you win this, you'll win a medal. If you lose it, we go home.\" Well, she said, \"If you can pull this off, we'll win a medal.\" So we went in there and we played against Czechoslovakia, a very close game until close to the half—I think we were down at halftime also by about seven points. We come back out, coach makes some changes. She put Nancy Lieberman in the back of the zone running back and forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4008.0,4058.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And she told Nancy, \"Just run and when the, when the woman wants to shoot, just jump in the air and try to not only deflect it, but just, you know, get in her face, cloud the issue or something.\" Well, Nancy went and jumped—and Nancy could really jump—but she jumped into the lady, fouled her, knocked her down. She, there were—it was a whole mess over there in the corner. So she knocked the Czechoslovakian player down. The lady went to the free throw line. Regardless of whether she made the free throws or not, that player was done for the game. She was too scared to shoot [laughter]. And so we—we just kind of battled back. We ended up winning the game by 15 and we won a silver medal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4058.0,4101.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4101.0,4103.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: So I made sure to bring my medal out—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4103.0,4105.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Oh yes. Put it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4105.0,4106.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: So you could see it [displays medal in front of the camera]. So this is my Olympic medal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4106.0,4109.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: That is so amazing. That is—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4109.0,4111.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: This is my Olympic medal. And all of us—all of us got our Olympic medals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4111.0,4116.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Ah, it's beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4116.0,4118.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Yeah. So, I still take it around. I just did career day last week at a school in Brooklyn and made sure to show the kids, you know, what you can—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4118.0,4126.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4126.0,4126.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: What you can do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4126.0,4127.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4127.0,4127.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And all the players get a medal. The coaches do not get medals. The trainers do not get medals. But the—all the players get our Olympic medal. So this is mine, the original one from 1976. So, real proud of it. And just proud that I can say, \"Olympic Champion. Queens College.\" That's one of my favorite things to say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4127.0,4147.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Yep. That is fabulous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4147.0,4149.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Mm-hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4149.0,4150.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: So I know it's past 11. So just a few more minutes. Just, a little bit about your life after basketball. Some of the highlights. I know you did play women's professional basketball. And then, what your sort of hopes and dreams are for women and women's sports in the future. Just what are you hoping for?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4150.0,4171.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Well, well, after I finished at the Olympics and did all of the fanfares and what you do—again, prior to the Olympics, remember if I didn't make the Olympics, I—my four years at Queens College were done. And, unlike the men who can get drafted into the NBA, there was no place for me to play in America. So it was difficult at 21 just to say, \"Stop, you're not playing anymore.\" So I had worked with an agent, which was, well, you could do it at that time, because we weren't part of any kind of regulatory body that said I could not have an agent. I had an agent who helped me to get to Europe. And I specifically wanted to go to play basketball for a team in France, in the south of France. Not in Paris, but on the French Riviera.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4171.0,4218.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: What did I know? I just heard it somewhere. So I was able to put that deal together. I ended up playing for a team in Antibes. Antibes is a little town adjacent to Nice on the French Riviera just south of Monte Carlo. And so I played on that team for like two, three, four years. I would go back every summer. They paid me a salary. They paid for my roundtrip airfare. They had a—I had an apartment and a car. I did much better in France than I ever did in America. And I did that. And the first year, again, getting used to everything. I felt uneducated because I didn't speak French at all. Very few words.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4218.0,4261.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And so I ended up going to school. I enrolled in English as a—I mean, excuse me, French. My French classes. I enrolled at the University of Nice. N-I-C-E. I enrolled in that university. And I took—I took French for six or seven months, which was great because when I returned to America at the end of my season, I had been in college. I had a certificate of attending college for seven months that made me eligible to play in the World University Games representing the United States. So that was my second national team. I played and represented Queens College at the World University Games. And Lucille Kyvallos was our coach at that time. She, along with other coaches. She was our coach. And we played the same list of characters. Bulgaria, Russia—Uljana wasn't on there, but it didn't matter, Russia was still good. And we won another silver medal in that one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4261.0,4319.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: But again, I got to continue to compete on the international level. I returned to France after I did the summer of the national team and played for the French team for a couple more years. Won championships with them, toured the Euro Leagues with them. And then they had this pro team—pro league that was starting in America. The WBL, Women's Basketball League. So I was selected as a free agent to play for the New York team, the New York Stars. And played for them, was paid by them. I was a professional player then. We ended up playing most of our home games at Madison Square Garden. Then the team ran out of money, including money to pay us. But we finished the season because somewhere in the back of the mind—of our mind, we knew we were making history, and we wanted to make sure we preserved the league, made history. And we ended up winning the championship that year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4319.0,4380.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: Our coach was New York [Knickerbocker] and Marquette University player, Dean \"The Dream\" Meminger. That was our pro coach. And we played at Madison Square Garden up until a certain point, and then they couldn't afford it anymore. So we ended up playing some games at Queens College, some games at St. John's University and whereabouts, until we finished it out. Won the championship. The team folded. The following year, I went back to, no, I didn't go back to France because I was—I was considered a professional player, which is different now. I played another year for the New Jersey Gems. I finished up my degree because remember I told you about those incompletes—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4380.0,4423.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Right, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4423.0,4425.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: That I had. So I started—I re-enrolled at Queens College. I started finishing up my degree. Really the only outstanding course at one point got to be student teaching, which I had to wait until I was finished playing the pros because I couldn't do the student teaching at the same time. But I did receive my degree in 1980 from Queens College as opposed to 1976. And then once I got my degree, I did in 1980 try out for the 1980 Olympic team. Unfortunately, that was the team that did not go to the Olympics because, the then President Carter, he instilled a boycott.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4425.0,4463.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4463.0,4464.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: That said that America couldn't go because Russia had invaded Afghanistan. And if you had asked the 300 members of that delegation where or what was Afghanistan—I mean, really? So we were pawns of war and we did not get to go. So, you know, I just, I said, \"I guess this is the Lord telling me, you know, put on long pants and go to work.\" Which I did. And I was very competitive and I was very pissed off that the guys who were on the Olympic team, the men, they were first-round draft picks in the NBA and they had great careers and being paid and probably didn't finish playing at college—their college degrees. They were playing, they were getting paid. And me, I was scrounging around, two teams still owe me money. And I guess I'll go to work. So as competitive as I was, as a bit angry as I was—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4464.0,4519.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4519.0,4520.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I always held that edge for many years. That—anger is the wrong word, but it was something. I was ticked off, you know, at being in a woman's skin, that as accomplished as I was, as much as I had done, I had to go look for a job. So I went to Wall Street, even though my degree was in education and secondary education and psychology, and I embarked on a career with a [stock] brokerage firm. It was called Dean Witter Reynolds. Eventually it was purchased by Morgan Stanley, but I was there for about five years before I went to work for another firm, Paine Webber. And then worked for another firm. And I just stayed with the brokerage and I worked my way up from a clerk moving papers around. I took [and passed] the Series 7 [exam], which allowed me to be a registered broker to buy and sell securities. I took all the courses and the registrations and the licensing that I needed, that I could buy, sell securities, have clients, work as best I could. And, I'll just say I went many places where nobody looked like me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4520.0,4592.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4592.0,4592.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I'm fine with it. You know, I've been on—years later, I guess that prepared me to be on the board of this or trustee at this, where I'm the only one. So I'm not happy with it, but I'm OK. I don't flinch. I speak up. I make sure I raise my hand and get your name in the [meeting] minutes. I second that or I'd like to make a [motion]. But Gail Marquis, my name is always in the minutes. So I worked Wall Street, all different capacities. I did that for close to 30 or 40 years until around 2015. I was invited to work at a local university here, New Jersey City University. And ironically it was a woman Vice President of Institutional [Advancement] at Queens College, Sue Henderson, who invited—who was the president of the university here, asked me to join her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4592.0,4647.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: I said—because I was already speaking and doing engagements—I said, \"Sue, find something for me to do and preferably I would like to be paid.\" And so she found something for me in the business area. And I ran the business center for a while, which was great because it put me in touch with my local community here. I live in Jersey City, New Jersey, now. It put me in touch with that, in particular with the small business owners of the community, helping them to start their businesses, get funding, financing around it, get support, help to push their businesses forward. Jersey City, just like Queens, the borough of Queens, is very diverse. Different languages, different people, different types of people, different types of businesses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4647.0,4693.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And so I've been able to help those businesses for many years get established, get funding from the state, and more importantly, from the federal government, which is there, which they're entitled to. And just kind of enhance the businesses around here. Great relationships with our local government. Our local mayor, council persons, city officials. And it's only recently that the local university fell on some financial hardships. So I was released, I stepped away. But I think that was a way, again, for me to make a pivot—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4693.0,4729.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4729.0,4729.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: And go do something else. So I'm enjoying this time away and I'll return to the workforce shortly in a different capacity. But always looking to give—give back. I've had an extraordinary life and I know as they say, to someone who much is given, much is expected. I continue to give back, to serve, to reach out, to help. Yeah. They always ask, \"Can you do something, Gail? Can you be here? Can you join this?\" I always say, \"No, I'm too busy. What time should I be there?\" [laughter] So—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4729.0,4764.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: That's—that's amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4764.0,4766.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gail Marquis: That—that's sort of the way I will end the interview. End the discussion now. You know, I've had a wonderful time, a wonderful life. I've been so blessed. I realize that. And I still look to give back and to join others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4766.0,4780.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610/transcript/58975/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: All right, Gail, that was wonderful. Thank you. So I'm going to stop the recording.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/108288/file/209610#t=4780.0,4785.696"}]}]}]}