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How are you? Thank you for agreeing to be interviewed for the Queens Memory Project. There are a few questions that I have to ask because they just want the same information on everyone so when they're able to catalog them later for the archives. The first is, please say and spell your name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=3.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Meghan Moore-Wilk. M -E- G- H- A- N M -O- O- R- E hyphen W- I- L- K.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=26.0,37.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: OK. And I am Rebecca Rushfield. R- E- B- E -C- C- A R- U -S -H -F -I- E- L- D. The second question is your age.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=37.0,54.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: I'm 54.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=54.0,57.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: OK. Then I just have to -- even though you signed the consent form, I'm supposed to ask you to agree to the terms and conditions outlined in the Queens Memory Informed Consent and Copyright Permission Form that was shared with you over email.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=57.0,73.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: I do consent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=73.0,75.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: OK. And then the next question is the neighborhood in Queens that we're going to discuss in the interview. I assume we're discussing Flushing where Queens College is located, though I could be wrong. You may be speaking about other places too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=75.0,91.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: That is my association with Queens. I live in Westchester, so I work at Queens College in Flushing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=91.0,98.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: OK. I spoke to President Tramontano before this, and I asked him what I should ask you. And he said you were the operations wizard. You moved all the people around. You distributed all of the devices that were given out to students. And you know every building in CUNY and what...So, I guess maybe we can start by speaking about the kind of operational things that had to take place as soon as it was declared that the school was going to close.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=98.0,133.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Sure. I mean, early, early on in January, one of the things we had to do is we started with, um, buying more sanitizer for all of the stations throughout campus. Um, you know, we, we noticed that we were running low in places because, uh, the flu season people were using it more. So, um, in January, as early as January, we purchased a significant amount of additional sanitizer. Then as time was passing, we had, uh, students and faculty contacting us in various ways, you know, as you saw in the media and other things asking why CUNY wasn't closing when, uh, some of the schools had already closed. I actually live in New Rochelle, which I think was one of the first places to actually close. My younger daughter, my younger daughter is 17 and she's at the high school here in New Rochelle. So she has been home, I think since the first week of March without school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=133.0,194.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Um, and she is in the special education program as she is on the autism spectrum. So that's been a kind of an interesting thing of trying to explain why we don't go anywhere and why routine -- which is so important to her -- is not happening. So as we moved through February, we had, um, many cabinet meetings discussing what would we do, how would we move forward, what would need to happen. And the beginning of March...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=194.0,226.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: I'm sorry, when you say cabinet meetings, who was discussing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=226.0,230.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: The President. The President and his, uh, vice presidents and the, the immediate reports to the President.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=230.0,237.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: So this was local college. It wasn't with the CUNY administration yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=237.0,242.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: No, no. I mean, the President was attending, you know, President's Council and hearing from the Chancellor and the Vice Chancellors on a regular basis as they were putting forth, you know. Queens -- I'm sure Bill said this as well -- Queens does not operate independently. We are part of the University system and therefore we follow, um, University lead. So we were, we were in contact, we were paying attention. Um, we were, you know, watching all of these things. We set up a site. We set up a site for, uh, people to report if they thought they had had contacts and contracted COVID-19. Um, we've had, uh, you know, we've had the washing hands and other kinds of signage up on campus, um, since early March. And we were, and we were watching all of the Governor's, um, press releases up until, I think it was about the third week of March when we finally all, you know, we're left, we're not coming to campus,. But we had to do things like we had to get lists together: who were our essential employees, who was going to keep the animal labs open, um. You know, to make sure that, you know, I mean the ethical treatment of animals as part of, uh, doing research. Making sure they're fed and clean and, and all the kinds of things that need to happen. We had to make sure which, um, IT staff needed to be, remain on campus to make sure that, uh, that they could keep our servers and various things going. Our mail and other things to make sure we can communicate. We had our B and G staff who had to keep cleaning. Um, and then we also have our security staff who are making sure that, you know, that the campus is, uh, secure in this environment when access is becoming more and more limited.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=242.0,369.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: And we had lots of discussions, you know, we -- not knowing what all of this meant. You know, maybe we were, maybe we weren't going to have classes, but could we keep any computer labs open? Our students...my, my, um, history prior to being in this role was I was the director of space planning for the entire university for 15 years. So I worked with all 25 campuses to identify classroom and laboratory and office and gym and library. All the kinds of needs that we have and to help the colleges put together packages of capital requests to bring those facilities in line with need. And when I started at CUNY -- I started at CUNY in '96 -- and I was a planner. I worked my way up. We used to hear that we needed to build computer labs because students didn't have access to computers. And over time as we moved into the online age and other things, what we found is that students may have handheld devices and other things, but a lot of our students don't have a quiet learning environment. So they might take an online class, but they take it on campus in a library, computer lab, or an IT lab. So we knew, we knew that we needed to make sure that we could make accessible, um, that, that technology, especially as we moved online. And, you know, as we heard more and more of the pause and the stay-at-home, um, orders, we had to, we had to figure out how to, to get them devices. So we did things like we gathered all of the mobile devices that we had, all of the laptops and tablets and things that are normally just loaned from the library [audio unclear] or whatever. We gathered those and we made them available to students that reach out to us saying they have nothing. And then the University did their major purchase, where they bought thousands of these devices and, um, and those were mailed out to students to help them. So, it was a lot of coordination of people. Who needed to be where, and what things can we have that we could get sent out. Um, all of our staff are working remotely, which means actually there's probably a computer on campus, but on and running. And then they have a laptop. Like I have a laptop and I remote into my desktop on campus. So I have access to shared drives, documents that I work with regularly. My colleagues, um, like Janet Rubel, who is the confidential, uh, Executive Assistant to the President, she sends files back and forth. We both remote in and we, we gather them from a shared drive, or access them, I should say. So, you know, it's a lot of those kinds of things, Making sure that each of the different offices had that. And then so when, when they, when IT was overwhelmed and couldn't necessarily take it as quickly as people needed it, folks would come to me, I would gather what their issues were and then I talked to IT every day to say, OK, these are the things that I need you to, to help get this office running or that office.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=369.0,582.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: Right. So I imagine when the school's open again, you're going to be the person who they, who everyone comes to in terms of spaces and what can and can't be done with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=582.0,597.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Right. So we're, we're already starting [to ask] our staff to think about who can stay remote, uh, you know, for a longer period, just because, you know, we will, we want to get to the point where people can be back in person. But, it's going to be logistics. It's going to be, you know, we -- we're lucky, we have 44 buildings, which is a lot, you know. A massive amount of square footage. Most of them are three stories or less. So that means that most of the buildings, um, we could, if people come back, we could say, you know, please only use the elevators for folks who really can't use stairs. And then with stairs, they're, they're, they're set at a distance in order for other things. So they're set with large [audio unclear]. If we said, you know, one person starts; once they're on step five, the next person goes and so on. There's ways we could do [audio unclear] through planning and, and, you know, good directions, help people, people at a distance and so forth. We could take our large lecture halls that [audio unclear] departments that fill, you know, at like 85 ,90 and then we'd be able to distribute people across the room in a safer way. In terms of our adminis...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=597.0,681.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: Oh, I'm sorry. I was wondering if there are any thoughts of setting up like temporary buildings for extra space and distancing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=681.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: The University won't have funding to be able to do something like that. And temporary, temporary buildings, um, it's funny because Queens College has some -- well, Queens College has some temporary buildings that are older than I am. They're 60 years old and they're temporary because they're what's called a Quonset hut. And it's a metal prefab building that we've done really well to maintain. And it's great that we, you know, I mean, when you think of being green and, um, responsible, you know, that's great that we keep using those. But we're going to probably have to...people are going to have to wear masks, I'm sure, when we come back. Maybe, maybe they're going to have to wear gloves. We're going to have to figure out how to keep people further apart. I was going to say, we have Kiely Hall, which is where most of the administration sits, which is a 13, 13-story tower. But if, if, you know, we could say on each floor, there was only five or six people and they're spread out. But if every floor has five or six people, most of those people are not going to be taking the staircases. So, you know, now we've got people in and out of elevators. Do you take an elevator by yourself and then wipe it down when you, before you send it back for the next person? Like, how, how are we going to...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=690.0,764.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: Right. I guess, how much do you have to do it? I live in an apartment building with six floors and we try in the building now that only one family will use the elevator at a time, but nobody's wiping it down each time someone comes in or out. So, you know...But you have staff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=764.0,784.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Right. So, I mean, so, so what, when we think about that, you know. And then, but we have only have so much staff. So how, you know, uh, I, I would believe that, that maybe we would provide supplies for people to wipe down their own computers and stuff. But if you're the only one using your computer, I don't think you have as much worry. And if no one's coming in your office that can be breathing on it and so on. But, but yeah, we're going to have to really think about how much will be personal responsibility and how much will be B and G's responsibility without overtaxing what we have. So all of those things we have to think about. And so, you know, we need to, to, um, you know, maybe people will come in on alternate days or other things. I've been in the office a very few times. And when I've gone in, I've known that no one has been there. So I'm not worried going into that environment. And when I leave, you know, no one goes into that environment for probably a week or more, so it's safe. But, but B and G is going into that space after I've been there and cleaning it, cause there's a log at the front of the campus. You sign in to say, you're on campus. You say where you're going and B and G follows behind and makes sure that they wipe down the door knobs and clean the elevator and all of the different kinds of things. So they're really on top of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=784.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: Right. That they can do when only a few people are around. But when you've got hundreds of people around, I guess...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=870.0,879.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: That's, that's -- yeah. And that's the next piece. So when we, when we first started, um, offloading off the campus, there were people who said, you know what, I need to get materials and things in order to be able to teach my classes. So the provost worked with, uh, the security office and we had windows of time and people signed up and they were escorted by security to make sure that, you know, they could get access -- because most of the buildings and spaces are locked down at the time to avoid, you know, people going in. And then B and G followed, followed behind. We're, we will need to do that again for the summer, even if we're not -- which we won't be -- back on campus for all the online, because some of the courses that faculty are teaching are going to be different. So, you know, there's, there's all of those kinds of things. And usually the provost and security work that out without me. I'm, I'm just the extra head when they need to deal with, you know, conflicting parties or whatever. If somebody says, you know, we need to figure this out, I try to help step in. But the biggest project I've worked on during all of this is the consolidation of the dorms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=879.0,948.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: Yes. He mentioned that. Can you -- that must've been a nightmare.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=948.0,954.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: It has been, uh, an amazing challenge. Just, just to give you a little perspective, um, when 9/11 happened, I was part of the facilities at central office. I wasn't the director at the time, but I was, uh, the chief of planning and, um, but BMCC lost Fiterman Hall. Seven World Trade fell on, on Fiterman Hall and damaged the upper part of the floors, and which put all of the dust from the World Trade Centers and everything into that building. We had just completed, uh, I think it was a $36 million renovation of the building. Yeah, we had just opened it, you know, September 1st or something, you know, the end of August. We had just started to have classes in that building and so on. And, um, and Scott Anderson, who was the Vice President, uh, at the, BMCC at that time -- he passed away last summer -- he was, he was an amazing guy. They reopened Chambers Street, which is the main building of BMCC, by October 1st. It had been occupied by, it had been occupied by, um, uh, the Ground Zero Team by, you know, firefighters and police. They used the gyms and the cafeterias and large spaces to stage things and stuff. And so I had been through something where you have this massive change, you know, this thing that...And during that, we had to get trailers. We put them up at City College on a parking lot site. We put trailers around the Chambers Street building. We borrowed classrooms from everyone we could. We got furniture from all over the country people sent us. Maybe not all over the country, but all over New York. It was, you know, it was a real coordination thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=954.0,1061.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: That -- this has a little bit of that feel to me in that March 20th, which was a Friday, we knew, by then we knew that the dorms were going to close. We didn't know if our dorm would close and we'd need to send our students elsewhere. Or if we would be the receiving dorm from, for all of the other residence halls that, that existed. We sent out, we sent out a survey to our students. We have a 510-bed residence hall. I think maybe 35 beds were empty. That's it. So we had, what, 480, 475 beds filled in the spring term? So we sent out emails to all the students and asked them, are you still in the building? Do you have a place to go? Have you left the building? If you left the building, did you take your belongings? If you didn't take your belongings, do you need to come back and get them? Or do you want to donate them because you don't care what you left behind? And we got all of these responses. And so from that, we boxed 150 or so beds, bedrooms. We boxed up those people's belongings. They've been in a secured storage place since March 25th. We hired a cleaning service. So we hired the movers to come into that. That was the professional movers, because we didn't want to take responsibility. We wanted to make sure that we had, you know, safe, good...and, and we needed the supplies and we needed the manpower. So we hired a moving company. They boxed everything and they moved it. And then we locked up that room and it's been secure. I'm right now, planning how we can have students come back as soon as the pause is lifted enough. And then we cleaned all of those spaces. Um, we had a professional cleaning company come in, clean the bathrooms, clean the bedrooms. If the refrigerators had perishable things, we made it available to the students who were remaining cause we didn't want to waste the food. If it was -- if the, if the kitchens were filled with, you know, rice and beans and cans of things, those things were packed and put away for the students who they belong to. We prefer to be, to be cautious and exact. And then on Friday, which I think is the 26th or 27th, students from City College, the College of Staten Island, Hunter, John Jay, Baruch, who were living in various different, um, residence halls and rented apartments throughout the city, moved into the beds that we had vacated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1061.0,1228.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: We hired, we contracted with Chartwells -- which is the company that does our food services -- to provide 300 meals every day. Um, I think we have about 180-some beds full, but we didn't know how many people we would have. So we had to, so they wanted a minimum number of 300 and we agreed because we thought we could have that many people in the building. Um, and so we, um, we have been serving breakfast, lunch and dinner with a hot option. Um, it's a grab and go. Students come down, they make, they have some choices. They're given the food and they can go back to their rooms. Uh, we had a nurse provided to us by Central Office for 24 /7 from, uh, March 27th until May 1st. We set aside one of the apartments that was a, like a studio apartment for an RA. The nurse -- there was a nurse in that room, 24/7. For all of that time, we had a cell phone where students could call and make an appointment. If, if students -- we have a foster care program. Those students were moved out and then moved back in -- which was a very big, um, with a news article and everything about that. We did not make any of those decisions.That was done by their counselors. So we simply said, you know, they, they decided to figure out if those students needed a place to stay and if they had a place for them from their own methodology. They, they had those students move back to being [audio unclear]... it didn't go well. Some of the students didn't want to leave [audio unclear] our dorm. And then over time, over time, we've had more of those come to the Summit. So when they come, they make an appointment, we know when they're going to be here, we know what kind of vehicle they're coming in. Security is ready for them. They come to the building, they go to the nurse, they get their temperature taken, go into their room and so on. So, uh, you know, we've tried to be really careful who's entering the building. We've had a no-guest policy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1228.0,1382.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: I'm sorry. I lost you for a second after no-guest policy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1382.0,1387.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Yeah. No, I didn't say anything after that. I was thinking about all the other things. So we have a no-guest policy at the moment, we have...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1387.0,1395.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: Are they allowed to leave the building?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1395.0,1397.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Yes, yes they can. They can -- the neighborhood, I mean, there's a Dunkin' Donuts around the corner. There's some bodegas. There's a Key Food shopping, you know, grocery store, not too far away. So they can still, they can go walk on the track. They can go get air or they can do, you know. Um, but there's no library open. There's no gym open. Um, there's a laundry room in the building. It's free. The students only pay for their own detergent. It has an app so that when you put your clothes in the washing machine, it will beep your phone to tell you they're ready to go to the dryer so they don't stay in the room. There's no congregating. Um, there were a couple of students who shared a room before this all happened and we left them together. We didn't say to them, you have to separate. But every new student that came in, came into their own bedroom. There were no shared, shared situations unless they had previously shared. So we've been doing...So, you know, that's, that's been...Every day there's questions from parents. I've, I've had folks yell at me because they want their refunds.The Trustees Resolution at this time states that if you are a graduating senior, you will receive a prorated refund from the day you moved out. If you are not in that category, you receive a prorated credit for fall 2020. So you can imagine there's folks who say, \"I'm not coming back. I want my money.\" And we, we at Queens College do not set that policy. It's set by the Trustees, but where that will land we'll have to figure out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1397.0,1502.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: But, but just, just the economic impact. That's about $230,000 that we will be giving to the seniors. And then, uh, it could be another what -- 600 and -- oh, no, I'm sorry. Another 400, 480 -- somewhere around there -- that the non-seniors might be asking for. So, the dorm, the dorm is a self-sustaining entity. Which means that we took out bonds to build it. And we pay the bonds, the debt service on the bond through the, the licensing agreements that, that the rent that the students pay. So if the building is not full to 90-some percent, covering that is going to be difficult. And if we have to give back what we had collected for the spring, that creates a hole. So we've paid for food. We're giving back refunds. We've hired extra cleaning services, we've hired movers, we have extra security. So this has been an economic challenge. We're tracking all of that. Making sure we're aware of what, you know, providing the right documentation to Central Office so that when the Cares Act money is applied for, we can hopefully bring some of that to, to solve some of these costs that we did not anticipate. So, so the next phase of this is, is, like I said, we gotta have a plan to let the students come and get the boxed items. And then we also need to have a plan for the summer and the fall. We want to be as occupied as we can be. We need that revenue. We need to make sure it keeps going. So we've, we've been thinking about, um -- oh, one of the things I didn't mention, we -- every, every occupant of the Summit in the spring term, that moved in received a memo from our, um, that was vetted by the Dean of the School of Public Health and by the Environmental Director at Central Office, talking about, um, social distancing and washing your hands and how to stay safe and all of the various things. So they were all given that document when they moved in. Our guards and our staff wear masks and gloves when interacting with people. We have -- to come to the office, there's a table in front of the door that keeps people distanced. You know, if they have, uh, deliveries and things, the boxes are put on that table and, and the person steps away and so on. So we're, we're keeping, you know, as much distance as possible to keep everyone safe. So, so, you know, we've, we've been writing up, I've spent the last couple of days looking at the financials with, um, really smart people in our business office who've, who've played out what it would, what, what it means if we're, you know, 75% full. What it means, if we're 60% full. And so on. Um, so it's, yeah, it's a lot of logistics, a lot of, um, puzzling and problem-solving and coordinating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1502.0,1701.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: Oh, goodness. And then I guess, assuming let's say if the schools don't open physically in the fall, you have to plan for the spring term and if they do and then changing...So I guess you have constant multiple scenarios.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1701.0,1720.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Yes. And we have the wonderful craziness of Bill Tramontano being our Interim President, who I've worked with, I've worked with him for, for, uh, you know, uh, close to 20 years, um, when he was at the other colleges and I was at Central Office. So, you know, he's just, he's tremendous. He's really, you know, thoughtful and great and wonderful, but his leadership is transitioning to Frank Wu July 1st. And, you know, I was thrilled that he was selected. I got to meet all of the candidates. I was immensely impressed by him. We've had a great working relationship thus far. We speak, um, you know, a couple of times a week just he and I. He and I with other members of the cabinet, um, you know, just helping him get up to speed. He is coming to us from UC Hastings Law School. And, um, you know, he's got great, tremendous higher ed experience, but not CUNY experience. So I, I am happy that I get to provide him with that insight. And because I worked with all 25 campuses for so long, I know the administration of all the other institutions. I've worked with all of the presidents. I did a lot of their master plans. So I know a lot of their academic aspirations and their enrollment projections and various things. So I can help him understand how Queens fits into that bigger University picture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1720.0,1810.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: So you're staying on for at least...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1810.0,1812.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Yeah. At least the near future. I'm happily going to be a part of Frank Wu's team.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1812.0,1823.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: Right. I'm trying to think. I've taken a lot of your time. I'm trying to think. Is there anything else you want to say about -- maybe even personally -- how it's affected you or your worries or not, or...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1823.0,1840.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Sure. Um, I have, I have both family and friends who've had COVID-19. Thankfully, everybody who is in my immediate circle that's had it has overcome relatively easily. Um, I did have a colleague...I have a couple of colleagues that have had it that, um, one I knew had it, but I didn't know how severe. And I reached out to him for a question, thinking that he might be like some of the other folks that I've known that had it, and he could answer me. And he answered me from a hospital bed. He wasn't on a respirator, but it hit home so hard. To hear someone so vital and young sound so compromised. That was really, um, one of the lowest points. I've also had friends who've lost parents and siblings. And they're, you know, I'd have no, you know, there's no words for this. Uh, even if folks have lost somebody, uh, not because of COVID-19, but just in this moment because of this, the health risks, you can't, you can't have the kind of sendoff that brings closure and, and, uh, the peace at a loss. A year ago, I lost my mom. And she had been living in a nursing home and she had dementia. And, um, we all visited her as often as we could. And even that, because of the memory loss, she wouldn't remember how recent we had seen her. So it always felt like forever. So if we had gotten to a point where we could not visit her, I can't imagine what that would have done to her. And then the other part was, um, my siblings and I were able to have a wonderful Mass in the church that we were all baptized in, that my parents were, were very active with through our childhood. It's attached to the grade school we went to. Um, so it was this really wonderful...all of our friends from childhood...It really felt like a full circle, my dad having passed about 13 years ago and having had a Mass there for him, it felt like the right way to finalize mom's life. And, and I, if it were this year and we couldn't do that, I can't imagine. I feel so horrible for the families who, who don't get that ability to close. You know, and then on, on just, you know, we're more like life changing and whatever, you know, my girlfriend and I had planned our 40th anniversary, our 40th reunion for our high, our grade school. And so, you know, in January we suddenly had 25 ,30 friends on Facebook who we might not have seen in decades saying, \"Yes. We're getting together. This is going to be great. We're going to get, we're going to get Tommy's pizza. We're gonna, you know, rector in the, at the church. You know, the pole and walking around the playground we all played on.\" And, you know, we were all really excited and now we've decided we'll put it off probably a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=1840.0,2054.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2054.0,2057.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: This is my goddaughter's -- on Sunday we're gonna have a virtual shower. And, you know, not being able to see her in person and, and hug her and tell her, you know, how exciting it is, is bittersweet. You know, she gets to have a shower and we get to see her virtually. So, thank goodness, but it's not the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2057.0,2082.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: No, no. And you mentioned your daughter's school. With the special ed in New Rochelle, they didn't try to do virtual learning or...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2082.0,2095.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: You know, we do, we do. It took us a little while to get it all straightened out, which...So she does virtual speech with her speech teacher twice a week, which we're finally getting the swing of to being able to do. My husband and I both work. My husband works for PSAV, which is the audio visual, uh, for most hotels. So if you go to a conference at a hotel and they've got microphones and things. There are no events in hotels right now, but he's still, you know, thankfully they have kept him on staff. Um, you know, he's, he's furloughed a couple of days a week, but he's still working. Uh, we still have health insurance, you know, we still have all the things. Um, but, but you know, he's gotta be on Zooms and I've gotta be on Zooms and, so for stuff. My older daughter is a sophomore in college, so she's finishing her semester, which, you know, like, a 20-year-old should -- on her own, doing her own thing. But, um, but, but, and then we also have OT with, with one of her teachers and we did that virtually. Her, a couple of her teachers came by and stood in the driveway. They brought her tangerines cause that's her favorite, you know. And so, so that's been OK. Um, but I have to say on a personal note, my greatest fear of her contracting this would be that she's 17 and if they told me I couldn't, I couldn't be in the hospital with her if something happened. And she can't advocate for herself. Her language is incredibly limited and she wouldn't understand what would be happening. She is, she's not...When we go out, we will take her for a drive in the car, but she doesn't interact with anyone. And when my husband and I go out, we're in masks and gloves and we limit ourselves because we can't bring it home to her. Right. Sadly my -- go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2095.0,2226.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: No, I have a 31-year-old son who has various disabilities and is slightly on the spectrum. And he had a job which ended because of this and now he's home and frustrated and angry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2226.0,2241.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2241.0,2241.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: And I worry if he got, can he be in the hospital by himself? How he would react, you know. So...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2241.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: It is scary. Luckily the services that we work with sent us some paperwork and guidelines and things, so that if that ever happened, we would have some documentation to pull in to say she can't be by herself. But, you know, and then, and then for my 20-year-old, you know, she turned 20 during this and you know, her friends, her friends, you know, Zoomed with her, whatever. And, you know, we made signs and stuff for her, but, you know, at 20 you should be out hanging out with your friends on your 20th birthday, celebrating and, you know, meeting somebody who makes your heart pound and those kinds of things. So I, I feel bad that, that, um, you know, I hope this doesn't go on too much longer because I think that's a hard -- it's hard enough to navigate at that age, but then the spending months holed up in your room...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2250.0,2304.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: Yeah. The long-term effects on children and young people, I wonder what they're going to be in terms of, you know, life is going to change again. I remember like after 9/11, life changed. And I'll say to my kids, you know, I used to be able to go, you know, on the spur of a moment and visit. Walk, go up to my friend's office in Manhattan and see if she could come out to lunch. And they're like, what are you talking about? You just went and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2304.0,2335.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Yeah!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2335.0,2336.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: And so once again, there are going to be more and more restrictions on what you can do and what that does to young people who should be free.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2336.0,2351.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think about -- I grew up in Ohio, so I think about, we had tornadoes. We had snow storms. We had a blizzard, I think around 1976, that for like 10 days or more, maybe, maybe two or three weeks, we couldn't go to school and our parents would go pick up, you know, mimeographic packages of homework. And we would do them. That was fun. That was, that was, you know, nobody was...I'm sure that some people died because you know, but it wasn't, you know, like, like this, where people were hospitalized and stuff. Yeah. So that's, that's been interesting. I will say my dogs love me being home. My dogs think, you know, you're here, and you have two hands, there's two of us, each of us should be under one hand at all times. So they've enjoyed the, the company. Although I've heard that, um, people are walking their dogs so much that the dogs' joints are getting problems. So I do find that I, I take them for longer walks and after a while they look at me like, OK mom, enough, let's go home. [Both laugh]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2351.0,2425.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: This is probably a wonderful place to end the interview! I want to let you go back to work. But thank you so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2425.0,2431.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Thank you, Rebecca. And thank you for what you all are doing. I think this is a really important thing to capture all of these stories, you know. Again, you know, as we were just reminiscing, you know, 10 years from now, 15 years from now, when people want to know what was really happening, this will be really helpful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2431.0,2451.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: OK. Thank you. Alright.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2451.0,2453.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-WIlk: Thank you. And stay safe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2453.0,2454.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rebecca Rushfield: You too. Bye bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2454.0,2456.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594/transcript/34150/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meghan Moore-Wilk: All right, bye bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/150/collection_resources/55379/file/129594#t=2456.0,2456.8165"}]}]}]}