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Um, so my name is Fran Kipnis, and I am here with Denise Pease on November 3rd, 2021. And, um, this interview is being recorded for the Queens Memory Project. Uh, so Denise, I know this is about your work life, but before we talk about that, just in summary, a little bit about your history in Queens. So, when you moved there and where you're living now -- so just sort of place yourself in the, in the borough for us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=0.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Um, well, I I'm, I'm 68 years young, and I moved here when I was 6 years old. My parents bought this house, uh, bought this house when I was 6 years old. And so, and I've been living here off and on, um, my, my entire adult life. And I bought the house from my parents when my, after my mother passed away -- really from my father after my mother passed away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=34.0,67.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: OK. And where is the house located, what part of Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=67.0,73.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: I have to say, you know, because of my top-secret clearance...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=73.0,78.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Oh, OK. No problem. That's fine. OK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=78.0,81.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: I'm not up yet. It's not up yet. And they always advise us not to just, you know, uh, to give that kind of thing out. I was advised not to get that cause I live in, I can say I live in, um, I live, I live close. I live close to, um, the airport, LaGuardia airport.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=81.0,107.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Perfect. Well, that's a perfect segue. Someone with top secret clearance, um, into, um, the work that you did. So why don't you talk a little bit about, um, your career, your, the different careers that you've had?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=107.0,124.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Well, yeah, you know, I started, um, I started like, um, the 44th president of the United States. He started as a community organizer. I started as a community organizer here in Queens and right after college and I ended my career in, uh, the administration of president Barack Obama, so that, you know, and in between that, I was a, uh, a deputy superintendent of banking for the state of New York. And I was an assistant controller for banking for the city of New York. So I've had a very, very interesting career in public service.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=124.0,167.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: So could you go into a little bit more detail about what you did in those, um, those two very big jobs that you had?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=167.0,175.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Uh, well, um, starting, uh, deputy superintendent of banking, I was responsible for the consumer services area and it was at a time when the community reinvestment act was, um, inactive and we were starting to put some teeth into it to make sure that there was no red lining in communities. Um, I, after I, uh, I left that position because I had a traumatic brain injury and it took me five years to learn, to read, write, and speak at gates, communicate again. And then I went to work in the office of the New York city controller, um, as the, uh, in rose to the title of the assistant controller for commercial banking. And in that regard, I use the training that I had at the banking department to establish a banking unit that established use the city's deposits to make sure that all new Yorkers had, who were affected by the foreclosure, uh, foreclosure process as we were going through the, um, the economic disasters of the early two, uh, two thousands to make sure that we have bank branches that could service that community, those communities, and to try to help some people get adequate banking services.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=175.0,262.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: And how did you get into that field in the beginning? Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=262.0,266.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Uh, as a community organizer, as a community organizer, uh, when I, when I was starting my career, I realized that if you went into government, you wanted as a woman and particularly as a woman of color, I wanted to have a career in public service that would translate or wherever I would go, that I would have, um, some marketable skills that would be that I could find a job so that, um, banking, um, bank regular to a bank regulatory practices really, um, attracted me to that mean it was a combination of what I was doing in the community. So what, in terms of economic development and also learning something new about banking. Um, and then I w you know, I furthered my education and graduate school, and, um, hopefully I've made a difference in terms of providing banking services for, um, the residents of New York city in New York state.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=266.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Okay. And then how did you get a job with the Obama administration? And then tell us a little bit more detail about what that was like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=330.0,339.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Uh, after I left the controller's office, I applied for a job in the Obama administration, and I, I thought I went into something completely different. Um, I thought I would be going to the, either the treasury department or the small business administration. And they said they wanted someone who was a strategic thinker. And I went to the general services administration as the regional administrator for the Northeast and Caribbean region. And as such, I was in charge of the federal buildings, uh, federal buildings, construction, rent, anything that had to do with the federal buildings from courthouses to congressional offices, leasing, uh, federal office space, also federal procurement and federal technology. So that was a, a very rewarding position because, um, I called it the backbone of the federal government and your backbone. Couldn't be your backbone. Couldn't be hurting if your back couldn't, if any, if anything happens. And as we get older, we know about back hurts, everything falls apart. So that, um, uh, GSA is that agency that a lot of people don't know a lot about, but it's a very integral to the functioning of the federal family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=339.0,421.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Okay. And what do you see as in both of those very important positions, one or two, like stories that you're particularly proud about or that you feel was a great success for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=421.0,437.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Well, when I think about, when I think about, uh, the Obama administration, um, well, I have to tell, uh, two stories, uh, uh, two stories. Well, I have to, I may, may, may have to stretch and tell you three. Um, my, um, my great grandmother was born a slave so that when I went to meet President Obama, um, it was after I had, uh, helped to reconstruct the federal family, gotten the federal government back up and running, uh, with all the contracts after Superstorm Sandy, because that's what I was responsible for doing with my team. I couldn't have done it without a team of extraordinary people. I mean, we worked day and night for a number of weeks trying to get the FBI working, getting the courthouses working, and the president asked to meet with me. And he said to me, he said, I heard you're not so much of a crier because I had tears in my eyes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=437.0,494.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: And I said, you know, only in America could a great-granddaughter of a person who was born, a slave could be, um, shaking hands and being hugged by the first African-American president of the United States. So that's, that's that story, um, because getting the federal family back up and running was really one of the things that I was very proud of, but that was not the thing that he, we -- Superstorm Sandy came as a surprise to us in a little bit, a little bit, but one of the things, when I was, um, appointed, I was told by his staff that one of the things that the president wanted before the end of his tenure was to return the federal government, the federal family, back to the World Trade Center site. We had, uh, when 9/11 happened, there was a federal building that was destroyed. Um, uh, and, uh, it had a myriad of problems from, you know, getting the insurance proceeds, making sure that how we were going to go back, because we weren't going to have a dedicated building, what agencies would go back, um, trying to get staff, uh, trying to get the federal family ready to go back because, um, you know, there was still some trepidation, um, about going back also about constructing space and looking at the federal government, um, the kind of space we were trying to reconstruct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=494.0,585.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Um, we wanted to have the federal -- that, to be the gemstone of the federal government. So we took six floors in 1 World Trade Center, and, uh, we decided on three, decided on three agencies that would go in, it would have been GSA or the regional office of GSA, the regional office of FEMA, because we work very closely for FEMA in terms of, um, in, in case of a disaster. And then we, we put in there with the, um, uh, the secretary, uh, Jeh Johnson, decided that, uh, the third agency should be CBP [Customs and Border Protection] since he would have two agencies there. And then he would have an office, uh, have an office there in case he had to be in New York and it was going to be a secure site. So, um, that was my job. I, um, I accomplished it. I'm very proud that I accomplished it, but I, you know, I always tell people, you can't do anything alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=585.0,651.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: You have to have people who are willing to work with you, uh, for you, uh, when you come up with an idea that they think is, uh, kind of nonsense, how to cajole or talk to them about how are we going to get this done? And the thing of it was I developed, um, stage three breast cancer right in the middle of that project. So I was going through, uh, surgeries and chemotherapy while trying to do all of that. The, the nurses have, uh, the nurses while I was getting chemo, have a picture of me, um, on the phone with my computer getting chemotherapy. That's what women do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=651.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: So there's a lot of things you've brought up. So being a woman in the work world, an African-American woman, and then your health challenges; those are a lot. How, how did those, those themes sort of play into your career, um, in terms of your work life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=701.0,721.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Well, you know, I think that, you know, sometimes when you're, um, I am a person of faith, um, and I, and I, and I'm a believer, but I do think that when, when you're put in a position sometimes, um, I call them my life lessons. Um, and particularly when you put, when you pull through a challenge, you had, uh, I feel that I have a responsibility to -- and a desire to -- help other people, um, to get through their challenges. Um, I think it makes me a strong, a strong person and able to deal with things. I, um, I, I still have what, you know, uh, sometimes with Archbishop Tutu used to call a Denise pity party. Um, when I don't think things are going right, or my knees are hurting me so bad from the, uh, medication I still take to prevent the cancer from coming back. But, you know, I have been blessed and, you know, really trying to meet people, um, encourage people and also bring a number of young people along as you're, as you're making your journey through life, making sure that it's not just your journey, that it's the journey that you're sharing with others, so that, um, so that it makes it our society a lot greater.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=721.0,809.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: OK. And Denise, I know when we had some preliminary discussions, you were talking about a lot of very amazing activities outside of your career and people that you've met, like Bishop Tutu. So could you talk a little bit about some wonderful people you've met because of your, I don't know, esteem position and what that was like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=809.0,832.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Well, I had, I had, I had, well, I have to say I had two glorious parents. I had two glorious parents, um, who we didn't have much money, but they spoiled me with love when that was growing up. My father was the Tuskegee Airmen that, but I didn't find that out until I was an adult. Um, uh, but, uh, [Black historian] Dr. Carter G. Woodson, who started Black history week, uh, introduced, and [Black historian and community activist] Mother [Rosetta] Gaston, who has a street named after her in Brooklyn, that introduced my father to my mother. So every time I think about Black history month, I said, well, thank you, Dr. Woodson, because without you, I wouldn't be here. And then we moved here to CU, you know, we moved here to Corona. I was born in the Bronx. I was born in the Bronx. Um, and we moved to Brooklyn for a little while, and that was different, um, into a very Italian neighborhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=832.0,893.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: And then we moved here when I was 6 years old. And, um, but this was a very, very good community. It was, it was, uh, um, a mixed community. We had people coming from, uh, I think it's just when the diversity was starting. You had African-Americans who have lived here for a while. Some were here from World War Two who had bought homes. You had, um, you have people who were about Irish, American background, Italian American background, and then you were starting to get people from the Caribbean, um, and South America, South and Central America. But, you know, I, um, I also live well now, uh, now I'm starting to say I live near and I got a chance to meet, uh, Louis, Louis Armstrong growing up. And so, um, because, uh, he and, uh, Dad went to the same barber. So, uh, Uncle Louie and Miss Lucille, uh, became, uh, very important in my life, Uncle Louie used to give me 50 cent pieces that I was supposed to save for college, that I spent all the kids in the neighborhood spent the money. I mean, because 50 cents then was like getting, I guess, $50 now. Um, so, uh, that was what this community was like, you know, uh, growing up, growing up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=893.0,987.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: OK. And then, um, how did you meet Bishop Tutu?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=987.0,993.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Well, how I met Bishop Tutu when I was, um, deputy superintendent of banks, I belong to an organization called the financial women's association of New York. And before my brain injury, before my brain injury, I had agreed to chair a trip of delegate of women and financial services to go to South Africa. But after I was injured, um, the ladies decided to take me with them anyway. Um, and, um, I went to South Africa and I met, um, uh, Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka who, who has been my friend for almost 30 years. And Sheila Sisulu, who was Walter Sisulu's daughter-in-law, who then became the consul general of New York. So I was still, um, getting myself together from the brain injury when Archbishop Tutu came to New York to get cancer treatment, uh, for prostate cancer. And Sheila introduced me to him and we started praying together. And then I joined his board of prayer and pilgrimage with his daughter Mpho. And so we became, uh, good friends, and still remain a friendship, even though we don't communicate as much anymore. [Editor's note: Archbishop Tutu passed away on December 26, 2021.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=993.0,1076.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Right. And that sort of leads into, what are some of the other professional and volunteer organizations that you've been part of and participated in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1076.0,1086.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Well, I'm a heritage member of the Tuskegee the claw, the God Garth chapter, the Tuskegee Airmen Association, because my father was a Tuskegee Airman. I'm in the greater Queens chapter of the Links Incorporated; I joined that recently, in 2018, but I also, I mentioned Phumzile's name because Phumzile who became, uh, the deputy president of South Africa, the first, uh, a woman of color to be a vice president of, uh, African, uh, an African democracy. Um, she became the under secretary general and the head of UN women. Um, so after I left the Obama administration, she realized that I supposedly had more time on my hands and working with UN women and I'm joining the links and bringing those two organizations together has been a joy in my life because, um, leadership of the links of women, of African descent who were professionals, but also who have so much knowledge and so much giving in their hearts, um, we've been able to do some tremendous things. Um, as a matter of fact, uh, before Phumzile left, we signed an MOU with UN women and the links so that we can do more in, um, in Africa, in, uh, Haiti and Afghanistan in some of the places, uh, that need women, uh, leadership. And, you know, now that we can communicate, like, you know, now that we can communicate, uh, by zoom and everything, it becomes a lot easier because, uh, I'm still not traveling yet because of COVID.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1086.0,1201.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: And what kind of projects have you all, um, embarked on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1201.0,1205.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Well, well, one of the things we embarked on, we did, uh, we did a, uh, we brought some of the mayors, the female mayors together to talk about, uh, violence, again, some of the things that they were doing to prevent violence against women during COVID because, and we did it as a, uh, as a zoom. So we had, uh, mayor, teacher, Lance bottoms, mayor via Lyles, um, and, um, uh, some of the other, uh, members that are mayors and we had Phumzile on, uh, that we did that as a video to talk about how we could, uh, expand those programs, uh, more broadly than they'd been expanded and have a communication with other mayors mayor. Uh, Lyle's from North Carolina, as a matter of fact, was the only man that was asked by the UN to represent the United States on some of that, when they had the generation of quality conference in Paris, she did video because she couldn't travel. Um, but you know, some of those things are very important because as, as, uh, women, people of color, just people in general, we have to learn to share our knowledge base, uh, more broadly because the world needs us to do that. That's one of the reasons I wanted to do this, this session with you Fran, and thank you for taking your time to do this with me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1205.0,1293.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: No, that's great. And then, um, why don't you talk a little bit then about sort of the transition from career, you know, about retiring and then into more of a volunteer, um, world. What is that, what has that been like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1293.0,1310.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Um, it's been a little stressful, cause I, cause it's a matter of fact as a matter of fact, um, it, uh, I, I am thinking about going back to work. I am really thinking about going back to work. Um, I'm thinking about going back to work, uh, but I'm also thinking about doing something entrepreneurial. I mean, uh, because I think that as, um, uh, as a woman, it's like, you don't fully retire. I, I am a single woman. I have a goddaughter. Who's like my daughter, but I don't have children. And, um, after my parents had me, they couldn't deal with having another child. That's what I keep telling them. I, I was the perfect child, uh, but no, seriously, my mother was very ill, but, um, so I, you know, so work has become very much a part of my life. So I needed some time. I did need the time between, um, the important job I was doing for, um, President Obama. Um, I've used a couple of years to really relax, do some of the things I wanted to do and to really recuperate. And, um, but I am thinking about what's my, what's my next, uh, what's the thing that, um, what's my next blessing. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1310.0,1407.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: What are you, what are you thinking about? What are some of your plans?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1407.0,1411.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Well, um, I'm, I'm thinking, I I'm thinking about going, uh, uh, possibly back into the federal government space. I, but I also, I'm thinking of everything from, uh, developing the face cream that my mother used to put on me that I didn't like, that everyone that I've started using, and everyone tells me, I look 10 years younger than I should be, uh, to, um, to setting up a consultancy of women who who've been in government, who really liked to do something in terms of, you know, consulting and adding their resources. Um, uh, but you know, we all have our networks and so that if you get together and you do something as a consortium, you can do it, uh, a lot easier than going out on your own. So it's, it, it, it's a whole range of things. And I've used this time to really explore everything, explore everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1411.0,1477.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: And I think that was COVID. I realized that one of the good things about being at GSA was that I think I was a little bit more prepared for COVID than most people at my age, because GSA was an agency for the federal government that we would try to pair the federal family in case anything happened, how you work from home, how to work, um, how to get the technology available. So that I remember when I, I joined the Links after I, um, I left, uh, the federal service. And I remember we had, uh, we were at a group meeting and I said, oh, you all don't have meetings where people can call in. And, and everyone looked at me like, why would we do that? And then COVID hit. And someone said, oh, that's why we would do so. Yes. So, um, I was fortunate in that I had those kinds of technical skills, and I think that a lot of, uh, women who, um, were in government with people, don't realize sometimes they think of government is very, um, old fashioned or not innovative, but government has learned to be very innovative because one of the things that we were learning, uh, when you're, when you're tight with budgets, your biggest expense is your people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1477.0,1567.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Um, and your next biggest expense is your real estate. If you can get people to work from anywhere, uh, I had an, my boss was another woman. The administrator was there and she used to always say, work is what you do, not where you are. So, um, that was her infer model. And, um, so I think I was very well prepared and now a number of women are starting to see that we can be anywhere in the world and be very resourceful and help other women in different places in the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1567.0,1603.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: That's great. So I just want to go back and then we'll go forward again. But, um, when you were a little girl, what did you want to be and what did you envision your work life to be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1603.0,1613.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: I never envisioned anything like that had happened to me. When I was a little girl, um, I, I think I wanted to be a doctor or a nurse. Um, uh, because my, as I mentioned, my mother was sick. She had schizophrenia. And so I wanted to be able to help, um, people who had medical, um, diseases. But then, um, I realized after my first job was at, um, the burdens Kohler, um, hospital as a candy striper volunteer for the Red Cross. And then I realized I don't want to work in a hospital. And then I decided I was going to be a biomedical engineer. And after my third term of calculus and taking calculus and physics and microbiology and everything am having that call my father to help me with exams when all my friends were partying, I decided that's not for me either government, oh, something a little softer, but I've been able to integrate all of that training.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1613.0,1694.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: And this is what I tell young people. Um, you start to integrate everything you've learned in life. You find some applicability to some of the things that you've done. So for example, I took a course in biomedical, uh, biomedical, um, uh, biochemistry. So when COVID came out and we were talking about viruses, I said to someone, uh, they're the predators of the microbiome of the world. They have very smart people, thought I was crazy. I said, though, they can mutate. We've, they've got to get that right away. Um, and it helped me to encourage my younger family members to get a vaccine because aunt Denise was telling them that, you know, this is the way from what I could remember from bio my microbiology, um, have this work. But so you use everything that you learn in life. I'm sure you've done the same thing, friend, you know, you tend to learn and to use everything once you get successful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1694.0,1766.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: So actually that's sort of two more questions I have is what lessons have you learned in your work life and how, how do you share that with younger people, um, to really spread your knowledge and your wisdom?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1766.0,1783.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Um, uh, one of the things, one of the things I've learned is that you never accomplish anything alone. You always have to have a team with you, um, and you have to, you have to trust your team and you really have to, uh, it's not an I world. It's a we world. It's a we world because you will get, you will get more support and more bot, uh, more support and more collegiality. If, um, yes, sometimes you have to make the hard decisions as a leader. You have to make some of the hard decisions, but sometimes people will trust you when they know that you care. Um, and you're just not making them arbitrarily. The other thing I do is, um, and I, I I've done this in all my jobs. I, because I, I guess, because I don't have children, I tend to adopt children or adopt young people and bring them into, um, uh, whether it's wherever I was working, if you wanted to do a detail in my office.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1783.0,1852.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: And I, and when I say a detail, I meant I'm going to take you to a meeting. If I was at the banking department as a deputy superintendent of banks, and I was going to go to a bank board meeting, and you would detail to my office, you would be going to that bank board meeting with me. You would be meeting some of the most senior people in the banking industry. By the same token. I did the same thing when I was at GSA. Um, one of the things I noticed was I was the first person of color to become a regional administrator in New York, uh, which I thought was kind of odd since New York is one of the most diverse places, um, in the country. Um, but you know, to bring people into your office so that they could see how to work. And so that how also the senior management can start to see diversity women who were diverse. Also, it gave the, it gives them a comfort level when they'd have to go for that, uh, verbal interview, because some people need that, uh, that kind of training of speaking, collegialy not being afraid, um, um, having to dress appropriately and the likes. So I've always embraced young people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1852.0,1935.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: OK. And what do you see as sort of the biggest kind of social and political differences from when you started your career to now? How, how have you seen things changing in the workplace?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1935.0,1949.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Um, well, of course they will, uh, uh, there, there are more women, but it's still hard, you know, guess by the fact that we're talking about paid, leave family, leave for women. Um, and I think we are noticing more after COVID because more women had to deal with, uh, uh, who takes care of the child, you know, even if you're sequestered at home and, um, uh, who takes care of the child, if, you know, if the child needs something and they're not in school, um, it, it winds up being, uh, generally the mother of the mother figure. So, um, so we, so it has changed. We are more accepting of people, uh, people, uh, in certain respects, but we still have a long way to go. We still have a long way to go. Um, one of the things that, uh, troubles me a little sometimes is that, uh, it's sometimes it feels like we're going backwards instead of forwards and accepting our diversity as a tool instead of as rust. And, um, and, um, and that concerns me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=1949.0,2031.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: And where do you see that? How does that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2031.0,2033.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Play out? I think it, I think it manifests itself. It manifests itself as a, um, you know, we look at, uh, what's happening politically. We don't accept people's, uh, uh, I have to say this. I am not, uh, uh, even though I've experienced a lot of, in terms of technology, I'm not a big social media type person. Um, but you know, when, uh, when certain people don't trust other people, and as I remember, I started off by saying nowhere else in America could a great grandchild of a slave be meeting the first African-American president. Well, we had, we always had the respect for each other and knowing that this was the land of opportunity and instead of joining together and bringing everyone, uh, um, it looks as though, but it trying to tear people down now. And, um, and I'm afraid of that and what that's going to do to our democracy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2033.0,2107.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: And what advice would you have for young people facing that now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2107.0,2112.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: What do you know what I asked the young people? What advice do they have for me? Because they seem to have it right. You know, I mean, um, you asked me if I mentor young people, sometimes young people have to mentor me because, you know, when I saw, um, how, um, young women came out after, uh, in 2017 to talk about, you know, they wanted to make sure that their rights were there, you know, their rights now, you know, um, I remember when my, my father, during the Vietnam war, my father used to always say, now you have one time to go to jail, make it good. I'm only going to bail you out, but, you know, um, but to see the young people come together and it wasn't just one race of women, but there were women of all ages in 2017. Then when you see the black lives matter, um, after, uh, George Floyd, they were, they were young people, the diversity of young people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2112.0,2179.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: I have more faith in the youth of our country then in some respects than I have, because they can see through the nonsense on social media. It seems like I, people of our age sometimes get caught up and think because they were so used to seeing something on TV and making sure it's real. I think the youth have a way of saying that's not real, you know, that's not real. Um, and they also have a healthy respect for each other. So, um, so I am very much, uh, happy with the youth and I hope some of them decide to go into government and to, uh, dedicate their lives to making sure that our democracy stays.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2179.0,2228.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: OK. So Denise, just, what, what do you, what haven't we covered about your career or post-career or other activities that you want to make sure. Um, we talk about in this interview,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2228.0,2246.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: You know, I don't, I don't know. I would just say that, you know, I think everyone's career is important. I don't think my career is any more important than anyone else's. I think I just had maybe more opportunities. Um, and then, uh, then a lot of other people, but I wouldn't have had those opportunities if I wouldn't have been given the chances that I, at that I've been given the chance to study, um, both here and abroad. Um, but you know, I think that I've seen a lot of the society change. You know, I, uh, I think I mentioned in one of our meetings that, um, you know, even when we moved, when I moved here to Queens, you know, it was at the beginning of, uh, even desegregating some of those public schools here in New York City. So that, that's why I said I have a lot of faith in the youth because I never thought that I would be saying I'm the older generation, but I am. Um, but I think the youth have it, uh, they have it pretty much, uh, correct. I think they understand and they're aware of a lot more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2246.0,2324.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: So anything else?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2324.0,2326.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Um, I, I didn't look at any of the other one, so I don't know what I'm supposed to say down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2326.0,2337.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: No, that's fine. I just, I sort of went through my questions and, um, sort of the questions they recommended, but I want to make sure that we talk about everything. I guess the one more thing I know we've talked about it a little bit, but just to bring it up through your career, there were three major New York events. There was 9/11 and Superstorm Sandy, and then the COVID and you talked about how your job, you know, how your career responded to that, but on a deeper level, how did those sort of big events sort of change, change you and change how you worked?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2337.0,2378.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Well, I, I would even say that in addition to that, I had to make, I had a major event in my life that I always say I had to learn to speak the English language twice in my life, because, uh, when I had the traumatic brain injury, I had to learn to read, write, and speak again. I think that overcoming that I still have, I have that belief, see, I'm a person with epilepsy. Um, I have a disability still go to speech therapy. Um, but you know, so I, and I think it goes back to what I was saying that throughout those adversities, you tend to believe that you'll make it through, you know, you tend to believe that you'll make this group. So I had that then I had, uh, and I, and I think I've been placed in jobs where, you know, whether it was the economic, uh, whether there was the economic issues, uh, you know, I had my house because I had the brain injury, my house almost went into foreclosure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2378.0,2448.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: So I knew that when I came, if it happened to me as a former deputy superintendent of banking, it was happening to a lot of other people. And, uh, when I started to hear about the scheme about the paper and the slicing and dicing of mortgages, and I said, oh, no, this is going to be a problem. So you tend to, you tend to, I I've been able to use my life experiences to help other people, same thing with, uh, Superstorm Sandy. Um, it just so happened that, um, when I was working, uh, for the, uh, the GSA putting, govern back up, trying to get lights, I, I, you know, I met someone who I had worked with in the, uh, Mario Cuomo's administration who's then at a con Edison and, you know, and trying to get the papers together to making sure that the bedroom, they recognize that the FBI and the courts had to function because without the federal courts and the, um, and the federal protection, we were going to be very vulnerable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2448.0,2523.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Um, so, uh, the nation could have been vulnerable because, you know, um, after 9/11, we did not know, you know, I was at the controller's office when 9/11 happened, but you know, that also helped me to explain to people when I was at GSA, because people used to always say, you want us to go back to that site, but you weren't here. No, I was across the street, you know, so I've, I've been placed in situations where I could contribute where I could understand I could empathize and, um, and I could get the work done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2523.0,2565.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: OK, well, Denise, this was fabulous. And if there's not anything else you'd like to add, I'll we can conclude the interview, but, um, I'm, it was just a real honor to meet you and, um, to spend this time with you. Um, so thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2565.0,2587.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: No, thank you. Thank you for doing this, uh, because, uh, uh, thank you for doing this for, for me. Thank you for doing this for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2587.0,2599.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: And you just have a lot to share and a lot to give, and you just really feel it, um, when you meet you. So it's just been a real honor, so thank you. Please","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2599.0,2609.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: Keep your touch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2609.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Okay. I will. Okay. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2610.0,2617.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Denise Pease: I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2617.0,2617.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101/transcript/42109/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fran Kipnis: Think let's wait for, I think so, but let me, I'll just end it the way I usually end the interview is that, um, this is, uh, Fran Kipnis interviewing Denise peas on November 3rd, 2021. Um, for the Queens memory project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/63674/file/148101#t=2617.0,2634.9333"}]}]}]}