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He also discusses transportation in the area in the 1950’s, going to see movies and shopping at Jamaica Center, his summer jobs, and going to Archbishop Molloy HS where he was the only black person in his class. He also talks about discrimination in High School and later when he  attended college at Seton Hall University in New Jersey, but also how that was a time when the world started to change with the civil rights movement 1960s.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCopyright 2020 F. Michael Giles, Linda Ganjian, CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0. Contact digitalarchives@queenslibrary.org for research and reproduction requests.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["http://digitalarchives.queenslibrary.org/search/browse/42459"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2020-11-09 (created)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["F. 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He also discusses transportation in the area in the 1950\u0026rsquo;s, going to see movies and shopping at Jamaica Center, his summer jobs, and going to Archbishop Molloy HS where he was the only black person in his class. He also talks about discrimination in High School and later when he\u0026nbsp; attended college at Seton Hall University in New Jersey, but also how that was a time when the world started to change with the civil rights movement 1960s.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCopyright 2020 F. Michael Giles, Linda Ganjian, CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0. 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This is Linda Ganjian. I'm here with F Michael Giles. Can you state your name and then spell it out?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=0.0,18.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: All right. My first name is Fambro, F A M B R O. And I don't use that much. My middle name is Michael. Let me spell Fambro first. You said spell it. F A M B R O. That's a family name. Middle name is Michael, M I C H A E L. Last name is Giles, G I L E S.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=18.0,51.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Yes. Okay, great. We can start with the questions now. So tell me when and where you were born.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=51.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: I was born in—that we just mentioned it, New York Presbyterian hospital, up in Washington Heights. I was born on November 21st, 1943. At that time I was living in Harlem with my parents, on 150th street, between Seventh and Eighth Avenue in Harlem.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=60.0,101.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: And you said that later your family moved to Jamaica.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=101.0,105.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: We moved to Jamaica when I was in the third grade. So I would have been about 10.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=105.0,118.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: And do you know why your family moved from Harlem to Jamaica?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=118.0,123.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Oh, yeah. We lived in an apartment and my parents really wanted to live in a house. They wanted a house. So after a few years living in the apartment, we moved to Queens, South Ozone Park.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=123.0,144.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Okay. And so you said you moved into a house.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=144.0,152.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Yes, a one-family house.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=152.0,155.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: What do you remember of the neighborhood at that time? So this would have been in the early fifties, I'm guessing?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=155.0,164.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Yes. Let's see. Do it by my age, I thought I was in the third grade. That means I would have been younger in the third grade. You're about what, seven or eight in the third grade?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=164.0,178.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: I think so.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=178.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: So that would have been in the mid fifties, mid 52, three, four. I graduated from grammar school in 1957. From the eighth grade I graduated.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=180.0,206.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: So what you remember about your neighborhood?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=206.0,212.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: It was just so, so different from where I had moved from. You know, I had never lived in a house. Never had as much space inside or outside. The house we bought, moved into, had quite a bit of property. The property was 50 feet by a 100 feet. That was the size of the yard on the side. It was one of the few houses on the street, which was 140th street between Foch Boulevard and 120th Avenue in South Ozone Park, Jamaica. That's about one block away from the Van Wyck Expressway. So it was just like being in the country. There was a new park, about two or three blocks from my house, but it was a playground; it had swings and I can remember going there a lot, most, just about every day to play and hang out.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=212.0,307.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: The neighborhood was different. There were Polish people, Italian people, mostly Irish people in the neighborhood. I had put on the form that I'm Roman Catholic. So I moved from a Catholic grammar school in Harlem to a school in South Ozone Park called St. Clement, C L E M E N T Pope school and church. That was our parish. My house was within walking distance of school and the church. So I would walk to school every day. And as I said that the neighborhood was very diverse, but mostly white folks of the ethnicities that I just mentioned, which were new to me. And the school in Harlem, there was one Italian boy in my class, and all the rest of us were African-American or Afro-Caribbean children. The school that I moved into in Queens was very different.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=307.0,421.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: I think when I got there in the third grade, there were maybe four or five other black children in my class. And that changed as I progressed through the school between 3rd grade and 8th grade, the numbers of the black children increased and the numbers of the white children decreased as the white children moved. I noticed that there was a reference in the questions, number four, that you sent me, whether I remember the neighborhood changing, aware of racial, ethnic population changes. You called it white flight. That was a definite evidence in the area and in my neighborhood. You know, I was very happy when I first moved there. I was able to integrate myself into the class. I don't recall too many issues.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=421.0,515.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: In terms of racial issues, there were as many white against white, Italian against Irish, as there would have been white against black. You know, as I said, there was a distinct increase in the black community as I grew up there though. By the time—I would think that there was about, I guess, one quarter white to three quarters black, by the time I got to the eighth grade. But I would have to say that generally, my growing up in that area was good. You can point me in another direction.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=515.0,587.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: No, no. Do you want to talk about what your parents did for work?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=587.0,596.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Sure. I in fact—when you get the answers that I completed for you you'll see that my dad and mom were— My father was at that time working for the post office, U.S. Post Office. And he worked in the main post office which is across the street from Madison Square Garden in New York City. Yeah. That's where he worked. At that time, when I was a boy and used to go meet him over there, across the street was New York Penn Station, really [inaudible]. What I remember of New York Penn Station, they should have never allowed them to tear it down. It was a beautiful building. In any event that's where he worked. He worked there until he retired probably about 15, at least 15 years or so after we moved out to Jamaica. May have been even more years than that. He was very active. My father was very active in our church, in our parish. The parish was a fun place. A lot of the community was Roman Catholic. And even the people in the neighborhood who weren't Roman Catholic would participate in the activities at the church because every year we had at least one and maybe even two bazaars. Do you know what a bazaar is?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=596.0,714.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: I do. Yes. I grew up with church bazaars too, not Catholic, but other [laughing].,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=714.0,721.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Those are really—when they first started, they were so large that the church could afford to rent rides, large rides for the children, my friends and I to play on. As time went on and things got more expensive and there were changes, the size of the bazaar shrunk a little, but it was still fun. It was always fun: games, food. It was just fun. I loved the bazaars.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=721.0,769.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Oh, sorry. I just want to clarify, so this is the same church?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=769.0,774.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: I stayed in that church until I went away to high school.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=774.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSpeaker 3: Okay. It's St. Clement. You said Saint.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=780.0,783.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: C L E M E N T Pope. It's still there. It's still there. As I was saying, I love the bazaars and the bazaar really kind of indicated or illustrated the way the community was. It was a real community on my street, my block. You know I pretty much knew everyone and everyone knew me. They knew where I belonged, who I was, and it was a good place to grow up.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=783.0,836.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: It sounds really nice.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=836.0,837.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: It was. I told you in the written questions and answers that the transportation, we didn't have an automobile when we moved out there. In fact, we didn't have an automobile for a number of years. I was trying hard to remember exactly when my dad did get his car, but it seems to me that it coincided with about the time I was going into high school.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=837.0,876.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Did you learn how to drive?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=876.0,878.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Oh, yeah, that was when I was here in high school and I took my driving test in the neighborhood. I got my license and really, I didn't start, he didn't let me drive a car until I was maybe a senior, certainly a junior or senior in high school. But, before that, and even after, even when we had the car, my dad used to take a public transportation bus and subway to work every day, into New York City.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=878.0,919.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: That must've been a long commute.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=919.0,921.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: It was, let's see.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=921.0,923.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: About an hour, maybe?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=923.0,925.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Try to remember. It was less than an hour. It really was. During rush hour it could have been a little shorter. You know, he would go and take a bus, the bus from where my area to the subway, Sutphin Boulevard in Jamaica, Sutphin Boulevard stop, the subway. And it was about 15 minutes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=925.0,959.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: The trains are express.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=959.0,961.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: The train ride, yeah if you get an express. Yeah. He would take the train to 34th street. I think there was a E train. He'd take the E train to 34th street, get off, and he was at work. I did that many times later on when I went—Everywhere I went when I was a kid, you know, I went on the bus, public transportation. If we went to the beach out in Rockaway, either Rockaway or Riis park, we would take the bus.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=961.0,1004.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Was the El there when you were growing up?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1004.0,1007.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Yes, the El was in what they call Jamaica Center now. I think they took it down. It was there for the whole time that I lived there, even when I was in high school. That was the end of the line for the bus that came into our area. The area was serviced by the green bus line, and that was our life. I took the bus, took the subway. Even when we went on a school trip—a couple of times we had a real special nun [Sister Louis DeMontfort] in the fourth grade who used to like to take us on field trips. She was kind of an artistic person. She used to take us to museums. She took us to the King mansion.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1007.0,1069.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Yeah. You were mentioning that, the King Manor.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1069.0,1071.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: And I told you the story about us seeing the photograph. Not a photograph, it was a painting of a nude woman that became a little bit of a controversy back at school when we all went home and told our parents what we saw. We loved it. She was just a little bit ahead of her time.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1071.0,1098.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: So did you get in trouble with the parents or?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1098.0,1103.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Oh yeah. There was a school meeting and the parents—we weren't upset, like I said. The parents were upset. The principal, I guess, was upset because parents came and complained to her. And I think sister got in a little trouble. She was always getting in trouble because as I said, she was a bit unique. I believe if I remember correctly, she was Canadian. And the nuns there were Dominican nuns. Yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1103.0,1146.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Are Dominican nuns stricter in general?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1146.0,1149.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: They were order nuns.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1149.0,1149.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Oh, that's their order. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1149.0,1153.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Yeah. They tended to wear nun uniforms, outfits. Later on, when I was in maybe the 7th and the 8th grade, I would work for the sisters in the convent, cause they lived there right behind the school. It was a convent and they would have me come in there and help do cleaning, heavy duty cleaning. And I got to know them very well. I liked the parish. I liked the school. I tended to do pretty well in school and I liked my neighborhood.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1153.0,1215.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: I was going to ask you about your mom. Did she work outside the home?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1215.0,1224.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Okay. Let's give you a little background on them. They got married in 1937 in New York City. They were arranged. They were arranged marriage. They didn't like to talk about that, but I learned that as I grew up. My mom was older than my dad, about four years older, which was something that my dad apparently thought was very important because he waited until my brother and I were 17, 18. And he told us that he wanted to talk to us at the house. He called us over. And that's what he had to tell us. We thought that he was going to tell us that we were adopted or something. He calls us and tells us that. You know, we sat down. He says, \"I have something very important to tell you. Blah, blah, blah.\" And he says, \"Your mother is older than I am.\" We practically fell on the floor laughing because we'd figured that out already.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1224.0,1307.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Yeah. I would think he would have known that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1307.0,1311.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: But that was very important to him, but I tell you that because they were very conservative straight-laced people. Arranged marriage—\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1311.0,1333.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Were your parents from the South originally?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1333.0,1336.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: My father grew up, was born in Georgia, Macon, Georgia. And he grew up there, finished high school there, and left as soon as he finished high school and basically never went back. He went back once when I was 10. He took me back to see my grandmother, my great-grandmother and my relatives down there. And I don't think he ever went back until when I was able to go back, when I was old enough to go to funerals and things like that. But we had really not a close connection to the South. My cousins from down there used to come up to see us in the summertime rather than us go down there.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1336.0,1400.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: My mother was born in Jamaica, the British West Indies, that Jamaica, when it was the British West Indies. She left when she was about 17 or 18 years old. She apparently had finished high school. And she came up here to be with her mother who was up here up in New York City. Both of my grandmothers and all of my maternal and paternal grand aunts were maids, they worked in people's homes. All of them did that for a living. So she came to stay with her mom. She worked for a while, as I understand in a store, a small neighborhood store over in Harlem. And then someone got the idea that they should set her up to marry my dad and they did. And they were married in 1937. And they moved into an apartment in Harlem. At that time, my father was working, about to begin to work for the post office. He was going to school to City College and he was trying to finish to get his degree. He never finished his degree. My mom never went— after she got married, she never worked outside the home. She didn't drive an automobile. She just worked, raised myself and my brother after we were born. And you know, that was her.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1400.0,1533.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about Jamaica Center if you're ready. So you saw my questions. I had a list of places.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1533.0,1555.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Sure. Even though we had a neighborhood movie, the Park movie, which was walking distance from my house. And we used to go to the movies every Saturday. If you wanted to go to a big movie or a new movie, then you went into Jamaica Center or— we didn't tend to go there. I didn't anyway, nor did my friends, until you got into maybe the eighth grade, and then when you went to high school, then have little dates and stuff, you'd start to go to the fancier movies, which were in Jamaica Center. The Valencia, one of the grandest movies in the city. I don't know whether you're old enough to remember those movies, in terms of the way they looked and how they were furnished. But the Valencia movie was the largest one in Jamaica Center. And then basically across the street from the Loew's Valencia was the RKO Alden. The Alden wasn't as big or as grand as the Valencia, but it was a relatively large movie. I spent a lot of times in those two movies, the older I got. So I spent a lot of time in Jamaica Center at the movies, shopping. I remember the stores that were mentioned in your notes, like Gertz. There was Mays. There was Macy's. It was where myself and my family shopped.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1555.0,1685.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Do you remember what you bought from Gertz? What would you buy from Gertz?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1685.0,1690.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Gertz was a large store like Macy's, clothing. Yeah. Mays was the same thing, that came a little later.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1690.0,1706.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Yeah. Did you go to J. Kurtz and Sons? I think it was a furniture shop.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1706.0,1712.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: I didn't, obviously. I don't even know—my father may have bought some furniture there, but I doubt it. He didn't tend to buy large things like that in stores like that. Cause we basically couldn't afford it, but we would go to Gertz during the holidays to shop for Christmas gifts and things like that. Yeah, I spent a lot of time on Jamaica Avenue.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1712.0,1748.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Is there anything else you would do on Jamaica Avenue? Did you have a bank? I guess you may have been too young.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1748.0,1755.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Yeah, I did. Now that you mention it. There was a branch of the bank I had an account in, but that was certainly later. Although I think I do recall that they encouraged us to have an account in grammar school and I had a little account. [inaudible] going there.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1755.0,1776.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Was it a Jamaica savings bank?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1776.0,1778.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Yes, it was, exactly. That was, that was the bank. And I had a school account, for young children, and I would use it. I also worked because of my father's employment in the post office. He was able to get me employment in the post office, in Queens, in Jamaica. So particularly during the Christmas holidays, when I guess I was about a sophomore in high school. I started to do that every Christmas and the money was very good. I'd either work outside or inside; I did both and you made good money. It was very good money. So I did that, just did a lot of things.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1778.0,1837.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: When I was—my parents were very strict. So if you were home, you would have to be busy doing something. So my brother and I, as we grew up and got to be teenagers, we wanted to be away from home so we could do more what we wanted to do, rather than what my father wanted us to do. So we got work. And the first jobs that were available to us has teenagers when we were like 13, particularly during the summer were counselors jobs at the Catholic Youth Organization, CYO. CYO headquarters was in Jamaica. It was on Jamaica Avenue. Yep. And I went there, applied for a job. I think the first year I was about to be 13. I wasn't even 13 yet. My birthday isn't until November. But I got a junior counselors job. It was some ridiculous—I might've made a dollar a day the whole summer.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1837.0,1935.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: But did you enjoy it?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1935.0,1937.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Yeah. Well that's where I met your mother-in-law.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1937.0,1940.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Oh, yes. She mentioned that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1940.0,1942.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: That's where we met cause she was—The Catholic Youth Organization was obviously a Catholic entity, which ran summer camp for all the parishes in Queens in the summertime. So, the camp headquarters was in Whitestone, up in Whitestone, but they would meet your children at your church. The buses would pick you up. And at the same time every day of the summer there were buses picking up children in front of every Catholic church in Jamaica or in Queens to go to CYO day camp. I believe you were permitted to go to day camp even if you weren't Catholic.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=1942.0,2015.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: And was it an academic camp or was it more—?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2015.0,2018.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: No, it was just—we did some academics, but I don't recall when I was growing up that there were that—those types of camps were as—certainly not as popular. Every camp now has, you know, you go to space camp, you go to this camp. They didn't have that then if you went to camp. And when I was a child, my parents sent me away to camps. So I went to New Jersey and stayed six weeks, had a sleepaway camp, I guess you'd call them, both Catholic. And I did that three, four or five years. So I'd had experience at camp. So that's why I generated toward the job opportunity when I was old enough to become a counselor. I enjoyed being a summer counselor, even though it was at a day camp, not an away camp. And the pay increased, when you became a senior counselor, the pay increased. And like I said, that's where I met your mother-in-law.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2018.0,2115.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Yeah. It seems like it would be a nice place to see friends every year.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2115.0,2122.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Yeah. It was. She had a nice group of friends that she will tell you about, and we had an interesting—that's how we renewed our friendship. I ran into her. Even though I hadn't seen her for years, about 20 or 30 years. And then all of a sudden I got a message from her on my computer asking me whether I was who I am. And I called or sent her an email saying, yes, I'm him.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2122.0,2177.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Yeah, I didn't realize you guys were out of touch. I thought you had—\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2177.0,2181.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Oh, no, no, no. We missed most of our adult lives. Yeah, your husband was already born and grown by the time we reconnected.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2181.0,2205.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Yeah. Are there any other memories you have around Jamaica Center that you want to share? Did you go out to eat?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2205.0,2222.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: No, I did not. If I was going on a date, which was special, I would go out to eat and that was later, you know, as I was growing up and in high school. And we would go somewhere; we could go to downtown. I liked to go to New York City and do stuff like that. So we would just jump on the subway and go to New York. Although I didn't dislike Jamaica, Jamaica was just like, basically in the neighborhood. So if you really wanted to go out—like in the summertime, it was really fun to go down to Rockaway and have clams and seafood and stuff like that and hang out down there.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2222.0,2278.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Yeah. Would you go with your family or friends?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2278.0,2281.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Well, yeah, my friends.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2281.0,2282.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Your friends.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2282.0,2284.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: We would go with my family too, but then—in fact, my father was good about that. He took my brother and I a lot of places. So we became familiar with those kind of places. So then when we grew up, we were able to travel around ourselves. We had no problem. So yeah, I would go out to to Jones Beach; there's a theater out there. And if you were really wanting to impress somebody, take them out to a play out at Jones Beach or take them to Coney Island in Brooklyn. Get on the subway. And go to Coney Island. We used to do that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2284.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: You know, we kind of—you know, I still love New York and I have to say that I experienced a lot of New York while I was growing up. As I grew up, while I was working at the day camp, I met two older guys. They were in college. So I looked up to them and they were big jazz fans. 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I'm thinking of a couple of—really, and I'm hanging out with the big guys. So that's—I thoroughly enjoyed growing up in New York. I would say that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2385.0,2410.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Did you leave for college?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2410.0,2412.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Yes. I went to high school out of the neighborhood, because I went to a Catholic boys high school.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2412.0,2424.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Oh, you went to Malloy, right? Archbishop?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2424.0,2427.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Yes. It's still there, although now it's co-ed. It's one bus ride or one bus and subway ride away from where I lived. You could actually take the bus to—I could take the bus to Sutphin Boulevard and then walk to school from the Sutphin Boulevard train subway station to school. I didn't want to do that. Then I would just jump on the subway. One stop, get off at Van Wyck, and there I was. A Catholic boys school. Didn't really want to go to school there, but my parents kind of wanted me to do that. Actually, as it turned out, they were right. I wasn't happy because of the racial makeup. What happened to my picture, it went off, everything went off the screen.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2427.0,2504.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: I still hear you.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2504.0,2506.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Well, that's good, but I'm just looking at the screen. I didn't like the—there were 300 and maybe 63 50 guys, boys in my class. I started there in 1961. No, I'm sorry, 1957. I graduated in 1961 from high school. I was the only black kid in my class of 350 guys. Now there were other black kids in other classes behind me and ahead of me, but in my class, only me. I was unhappy about that. I made the best of it. I can't say I had completely bad times in high school. I had some good times, but I often regret not going to—I had considered schools all over the city in New York City in Brooklyn, which were more diverse. And after I got to Malloy, I really regretted picking that school. But later on because of the—you know, it got me into college. Because after I went to Malloy—four years ran track, that was my main activity—I went to a Seton Hall University in New Jersey. I wanted to go away to college, always did.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2506.0,2645.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: And my father and I went down to Seton Hall, visited it. It's in South Orange, New Jersey, which is not far from where I live now, and I selected that school. Again I found myself in a situation which really had social issues. There were only 22. First of all, at the time, Seton Hall was all men, no women. It had a nursing school, but they were really kind of separate. So there were 22 in all schools when I went there and I knew them all. We all knew each other, twenty-two of us. Both day students and people that lived on campus, I naturally lived on campus, but you know, it was a good situation. I enjoyed it. And I'm still involved with the school.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2645.0,2729.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Yeah. So did you ever feel discriminated against or —?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2729.0,2736.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Oh, many times. Many times. High school, but that was mainly by students or their families. I didn't tend—when I was in high school, even though I had close friends, guys that I ran with on the track team, as I thought about it after I'd been through this experience, I never went to any of their homes, ever. I just didn't and they never came to mine. Now that changed when I went to Seton Hall, went to college and made friends, I would bring home my schoolmates, couple of whom were white. But, although at this time it's important to note that the world was changing with regard to the society and the relations between people. Now, this was in the middle of the—we're approaching the sixties. I was in college from 1961 to 1965. I mean really civil rights, everything that was happening, and the world was changing. So my relationships changed along with that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2736.0,2849.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: And you felt like there was awareness of that on the college campus?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2849.0,2855.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Oh yeah. Yes. There were a number of priests and professors who were involved in the movement. One of them was an interesting person. He was Jewish, professor Ed Lewinson. He was a history professor. He was blind and he had a sight dog. He lived in New York city and he used to come to Seton Hall on the bus every day to teach. And he involved himself, in fact, he went to a couple of the marches down south, and there were photos of him in the newspaper. He and his dog walking in the marches that they had. He was really one of the most prominent faculty members at Seton Hall at the time. There were some other teachers, a nurse and priests who were involved in that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2855.0,2934.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Okay. So, I think I've wrapped up my questions. I don't know if there's anything else that comes to your mind about Jamaica, the neighborhood or any other memories?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2934.0,2953.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: No.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2953.0,2954.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: I think we covered a lot.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2954.0,2961.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: I think we did. I hope it makes sense. Now, as far as our plan is concerned, you're the boss,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2961.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: I am the boss [laughing]. I'm the boss of my family, too. okay. So I'm going to stop the recording.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2970.0,2976.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Okay. Tell me when we're back on. Okay.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2976.0,2979.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: We're back on. So, what was the name of the nun who took you to King Manor?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2979.0,2986.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: We're back to the King's mansion school trip visit where somewhere in the mansion, there was a photograph of —\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=2986.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: A painting.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=3000.0,3002.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: A painting, and the painting was a—she may have been partially nude, but definitely her breasts were exposed. Now we were fourth grade, you know, the nun was artsy. I mean, I think she was a painter herself. She was into plays, and I loved her. I thought she was great. But the principal wasn't crazy about her. She was a little unusual, you know, her name was sister [pause]. I had it a minute ago. Might have to call you back.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=3002.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Okay. It's all right. [laughing]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=3060.0,3062.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: You asked me a minute ago. It popped in my head.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=3062.0,3066.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Yeah. It's all right. Yeah. If it comes to you, you can email me. So then you said a classmate of yours told their parents?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=3066.0,3080.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Yeah, somebody told the parents and the parent called the principal, and there was this big—\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=3080.0,3088.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Big hullabaloo.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=3088.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: Yeah, hullabaloo about it. Now Claude, Mr. Mangum, he didn't go to St. Clements. At that time, he wasn't Catholic. He became Catholic later, joined the parish, but he went to public school.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=3090.0,3115.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Yeah. Okay. Mike, I gotta go back. Yeah. If it comes to mind. It would be nice to pay tribute to her in this postcard. Right. To have a name there. I wonder if other people remember her too. Okay, great. So thank you so much. I'll be in touch with you.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=3115.0,3142.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nF. Michael Giles: We'll talk. Okay.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906#t=3142.0,3144.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45809/file/118906/transcript/30472/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLinda Ganjian: Okay. Thank you, Mike. All right. Have a great day. 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