{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/7659c6sh91/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Generose Lambert Oral History"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/010/original/Aviary_QPLlogo_192x192.png?1578574261","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eSummary of full Interview\u003c/strong\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eGenerose Lambert was born in 1946 and grew up in Richmond Hill, Queens on the border with Jamaica. Much of her family lived on the same block, or not too far away. Her father was a fireman.  \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eIn part one of this interview, Generose Lambert talks about what life was like in east Richmond Hill for a kid in the 50’s and 60’s. During her childhood the area was modest single family homes with yards, full of white families of European descent – Polish and Irish.  She describes the different grocery stores in the area like King Kullen; her uncle had a produce store in Richmond Hill that they would go to as well. She and her friends would ride bikes, play stickball, and roller skate around Richmond Hill and Kew Gardens for fun, and when she was older they would take the bus to Jamaica Center and go shopping at Gertz or Woolworth's. As a teenager she went to dances in the auditorium at Mary Immaculate Hospital, go to movies at all the big theaters along Jamaica Avenue, and get ice cream at Jahn's Ice Cream Parlor.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eIn part two of this interview, Generose Lambert talks about how her paternal grandparents came from Czechoslovakia and met in Yorkville in Manhattan, and then moved to Richmond Hill. 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Much of her family lived on the same block, or not too far away. Her father was a fireman. \u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eIn part one of this interview, Generose Lambert talks about what life was like in east Richmond Hill for a kid in the 50\u0026rsquo;s and 60\u0026rsquo;s. During her childhood the area was modest single family homes with yards, full of white families of European descent \u0026ndash; Polish and Irish. \u0026nbsp;She describes the different grocery stores in the area like King Kullen; her uncle had a produce store in Richmond Hill that they would go to as well. She and her friends would ride bikes, play stickball, and roller skate around Richmond Hill and Kew Gardens for fun, and when she was older they would take the bus to Jamaica Center and go shopping at Gertz or Woolworth's. As a teenager she went to dances in the auditorium at Mary Immaculate Hospital, go to movies at all the big theaters along Jamaica Avenue, and get ice cream at Jahn's Ice Cream Parlor.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eIn part two of this interview, Generose Lambert talks about how her paternal grandparents came from Czechoslovakia and met in Yorkville in Manhattan, and then moved to Richmond Hill. Her mother\u0026rsquo;s side was German; her great grandmother lived in \u0026ldquo;Germantown\u0026rdquo;, which is now Ridgewood, Queens, and her grandmother worked at the Bulova factory in Jackson Heights. She goes into more detail about her childhood in Queens.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCopyright 2020 Generose Lambert, Linda Ganjian, CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0. 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So Generose, can you, I guess, say your name and spell it out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=0.0,19.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Generose Lambert. G E N E R O S E L A M B E R T. Okay. E is silent in the middle of my name, Generose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=19.0,32.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. And your age?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=32.0,36.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: How old am I? 74.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=36.0,38.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Okay. And can you tell me when and where you were born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=38.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I was born in 1946 in Queens, New York, specifically at Kew Gardens hospital which is right up the road from where I lived in Richmond Hill. I was on the border between Richmond Hill and Jamaica. So, a block from Van Wyck Expressway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=47.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Okay. Do you know when your parents moved to Richmond Hill and what brought them to that area?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=72.0,83.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I believe my—both my parents grew up in Richmond Hill, from all the stories that [I've heard]—I don't know which hospital or those details, but I know that that's where they met. My father used to play baseball and my mother had two brothers: an older brother and a younger brother and her older brother played baseball with my father. And that's how she met him. The block that I grew up on, my grandmother lived—and my mother grew up in that house—and my great uncle lived next door to her. That was a two family or a three family house that my great uncle had and my great grandmother moved there as she got older after my great-grandfather died, but they [my great grandparents] lived in Jamaica Estates, and he [my great grandfather] was a realtor. He did real estate; he bought and sold. I think he bought the houses on that block. And I know he bought when my parents were getting married, he got the house for them. And then he also got a house for my aunt and uncle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=83.0,173.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: So was the whole family on the same block?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=173.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Well my Aunt and Uncle were a little ways away, but the rest of us. Yeah. A lot of us were there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=180.0,186.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: And what do you remember of the neighborhood when you were growing up there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=186.0,192.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: The neighborhood was, at that time; it wasn't like it is now. I've gone back there and there used to be a lot of trees on the street. Everybody had a front lawn and a backyard and flowers and grass. Now a lot of it's been cemented in and the trees are gone. But it was a kind of pretty neighborhood. It was very modest. It was working class. There were small one family houses and then some two family houses. And then down at the end of the block, there were two apartment buildings, one on either side of the street and they were six floors high. Growing up, those were the only apartment houses in the immediate neighborhood around there. The rest were one or two family houses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=192.0,249.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Do you remember the ethnic makeup of the neighborhood?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=249.0,253.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. Very distinctly. It was very kind of Northern Western European, and it was totally white. It was nothing else except that. Everybody was very fair-skinned and I mean really pale. But, I was thinking back to all the grades that I was in in elementary school and—because the school was across the street. I went to Catholic school. It was Our Lady of the Cenacle. It was across the street and the church was there also, Our Lady of the Cenacle. And thinking back on all the classes, I don't remember one black student or person of color. There weren't even Italians. Okay. [inaudible] Really, you know!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=253.0,318.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: So it was like [crosstalk]—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=318.0,318.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: —[crosstalk] Italian last names. And I don't remember any, you know, kind of dark haired, really dark haired people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=318.0,328.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: So was it people of Irish, German, like Norwegian?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=328.0,335.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: There was some Polish, Irish. Yeah, like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=335.0,342.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Was there a Jewish community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=342.0,345.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: No, there wasn't. My two best friends—they were twins— lived in one of the apartment buildings up the block. They were Jewish and they were the only Jewish people around. There was a Jewish community on the other side of Van Wyck Expressway that popped up maybe when I was 10, 11, 12, called Briarwood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=345.0,372.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: And so that would have been in the fifties.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=372.0,374.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: A lot of apartments there [in Briarwood]. And I know that there was a lot of Jewish people there because of my Jewish girlfriends and them knowing people there, and having girlfriends there and I would go with them. We would hang out together. But in my immediate neighborhood, no, it was—and maybe because the church was there, you know, we were across the street from the church. I don't know. Yeah. I really don't know, but my friends went to Jamaica high school. I went to Catholic high school. So yeah. They went to Jamaica high school because they were on the other side of the street. If I went to public school, I would have gone to Richmond Hill high school. So that was the border.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=374.0,426.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Right on the border. Yeah. Is there anything else about Richmond Hill growing up. It felt like a safe neighborhood? And were people very neighborly?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=426.0,441.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: No, I wouldn't say people were neighborly. I mean, you knew the neighbors and they would say hello. I really didn't have anything to do with them. I guess my mother kind of maybe would have more to do with them, but I don't remember feeling affection from the neighbors, put it that way, but it was just kind of nothing. We never locked the doors. When I started going out with my girlfriends, riding our bikes around the neighborhood, as soon as we could, you know. As soon as we were riding bikes, we started riding all over the place. We would go up into Kew Gardens, and down Kew Gardens road, next to where the Long Island Railroad runs. And there'd be big—I don't know if they're still there—big weeping willow trees. We used to love to ride down that road. There was also at the top of Kew Gardens when you got up right as, before you were going to go down that hill, there was a house that had a very large garden in the front that would grow vegetables in the summertime. We called it the farm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=441.0,522.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Did you know people who lived there, or you just rode by?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=522.0,524.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: No, we didn't know. Yeah, so, but we would just ride all over the place. I remember one time there was an empty lot. There were a lot of empty lots at that time. Eventually they put apartment buildings there, but at that time, and so it was almost like going into a little forest. And I remember hearing there was some kind of issue with another girl that lived on the block and some guy being lewd in there and we were told not to go in there. But I didn't really know quite what that meant, but it was a little scary: some guy, a pedaphile probably, hanging out in the lot. Because the kids, everybody would play all over the place. You'd go in there; you'd climb trees, we were just always out, out on the street or we're hanging out on the stoop in front of my house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=524.0,603.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: We had the school yard across the street, so we could play handball. We'd have relay races, stickball, roller skate. We had those old iron clip on roller skates. And so we could go in, especially in the summertime, the schoolyard was ours. And we could skate all over and hang onto the back of bikes, have our friends pull us along. And then sometimes, across the street, the janitor of the school, Mr. Naused, let us use the stage and I remember we put on a performance one year. I don't remember what we did, what the performance was. I think it was just singing and dancing or something, but we invited the families and the neighbors to come and watch us perform. And he would let us play in there when he cleaned and especially we'd play hide and seek behind the curtains and in the back of the stage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=603.0,682.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: That's amazing. That would never happen now. [laughter] It would be not allowed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=682.0,687.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. Mr. Naused's backyard opened up onto the school yard. It was like his place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=687.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Do you remember, were there stores—how did you guys do your shopping?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=701.0,711.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Every day, every morning my mother would put on stockings and high heels and a skirt and blouse, and, in the morning she would go down to the corner store. We lived on 136th street and Hillside Avenue, the first house up from an auto top place on Hillside Avenue, and just right across the street was a grocery store called Shrimpies. That was the guy's name; it wasn't because they sold shrimp. And so every morning she would go down there and get seeded rolls, Kaiser rolls, then she'd get into her slacks and whatever she was doing housework. And then she'd get dressed again at lunchtime and go down to Shrimpies to get cold cuts and Italian bread, or a loaf of bread or whatever, maybe a quart of milk although we had a milkman. We had milk delivered every day. That was the closest grocery store. Then, down on a 111th street or thereabouts, and Jamaica Avenue, Richmond Hill, my father's brother, my uncle John, had a fruit and vegetable store. That's where all the produce would come from and across the street from him was a King Kullen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=711.0,812.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Okay. Do you remember when King Kullen opened? Because it was supposedly the first supermarket, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=812.0,821.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I always remember it being open. I mean, as far back as I can remember, cause I would go with him shopping. My father was a fireman, so he didn't have a regular nine to five, Monday through Friday job. And most of the time, he would go towards the end of the week, preferably on a Friday morning and get the produce and do the grocery shopping.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=821.0,850.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Do you remember the inside of King Kullen? Like what was it like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=850.0,859.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: You know, it could look like some of the grocery stores in Jackson Heights that aren't modern. Like some of those, I guess small supermarkets. And that's just how it looked. It didn't really look all that much different. You know, different now than modern supermarkets, but there's still places that look like—it didn't look all that different at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=859.0,893.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. All right, so Jamaica Avenue. So when did you start going to Jamaica, and what kinds of things did you do there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=893.0,910.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I was thinking about this and I think the first time, I don't know exactly how, maybe we were about 10. And my girlfriends, Laura and Paula, my best friends had an older sister Florrie. She was two years older. And she took us for the first time on the bus. She would come home and tell us little stories about her trips before we actually ever went with her. And it was so exciting, she'd come home and she would just be like, she was sitting on the bus and some guy, this fat guy sat down next to her and was nudging her. And she just kind of moved away from him and she started giggling. But I remember her [taking us], I don't remember the exact occasion, [or] what we did when we got there. I think it was just going there, there were all sorts of stores.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=910.0,974.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I mean, it was starting at, okay, I'm going to say it, \"Suphtin\" [phonetic] Boulevard because that's how we said it. We didn't say Sutphin and it wasn't just me and my family. It was the whole neighborhood who said \"Suphtin\" [phonetic] Boulevard. I think it was just easier to say. So you go down to Jamaica Avenue and you could either take the bus or you could take the El. It was elevated at the time. And there was a stop right there at Van Wyke Expressway. You could take it to Parsons Boulevard or 168th street at the very end of the line, depending on where you were going to go. But you could also just walk up. It wasn't really that far. I lived on 136th street. So I guess \"Suphtin\" [phonetic] Boulevard is not that far going, I guess, east. And what I used to do with my girlfriends when we were allowed to go by ourselves is we would go to this place called the donut shop. It was on Jamaica Avenue right next to \"Suphtin\" [phonetic] Boulevard. So we would walk there and it was a donut shop, but it had pizza. So, and I remembered this simply because Laura would get a donut and Paula and I would get pizza. And I remember it because of Laura. I remember it was called the donut shop or at least that's what we called it, maybe that wasn't the name of it. But we'd say, Oh, let's go get pizza at the donut shop. And I think the slices were 15 cents or something like that. It was crazy and we'd get Coke, and a slice of pizza.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=974.0,1097.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: But then when I got a little bit older and then you could go shopping at Gertz. And I remember going, actually, when I was little with my mother and my grandmother, going to Gertz to get clothing. But when I was older, I went to Gertz because they had an animal department and my cousin Susan and I would buy hamsters. Yeah. So we'd buy the hamsters and we'd hide them because we weren't allowed to have them. And we would get the hamsters, but we never had any luck. We got one hamster and I brought it back and I put it in my sock drawer. And the next morning it was dead. So we brought it back to Gertz and they gave us a new one and we brought it over to Susan's house, but Susan's house had a little hole in the wall, and the hamster got out and it went into the hole in the wall, somewhere in the insides of the house. So we lost that one also. It was very much fun getting them and we'd put it in a shoe box and we'd put like a little blanket in there to keep it warm, but I think if it was in the winter, maybe the hamster got a chill coming home. I don't know what happened. Why that one died, but he did. So, I was more interested in the animal—I mean, I remember going there and I liked going there. That was more of more interest to me than any[thing else]— I don't know what else they had there, besides the clothes. Probably they had everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1097.0,1209.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: The place that I loved to go was Woolworth's because of the way that it was arranged, where things were in bins, they weren't on shelves. So it was like laid out in front of you. You could see out. There wasn't anything piled up and [there were] just all these funnels, pancake flippers, and all these things, shoe laces, you know, all the things that a 5 and 10 would have, but it had so many interesting things. I loved going into the 5 and 10 and just browsing. I wouldn't necessarily buy anything. And they also had a luncheonette counter where you could get an ice cream soda or Coke or a sandwich. I remember getting sandwiches with my grandmother there when I was little. So that was Woolworth's. So it was Woolworth's and Gertz [where we mainly went shopping].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1209.0,1278.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: And then there was, on, I don't know what street it was, but it was a side street in maybe the high 150s, 160s , up there. And you would go off of Jamaica Avenue, go north on one of those side streets and there was a whole series of smaller shops, specialty kind of shops. There was one called the Plymouth shop that my mother loved and they sold pocket books and gloves, hats, wallets, leather goods like that. And I think maybe they sold sweaters too. Now. I can't remember. I'm not sure, it was a smaller selection, but very nice quality of clothing. And I don't remember what else was there on that block, because it was the Plymouth shop was where we mainly went when we went up that street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1278.0,1354.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I remember when I was a teenager, there was a hospital, Mary Immaculate Hospital, and every Sunday during the school year, they would have dances. They had an auditorium and they had dances for teenagers and they would have big band music, live big band music, which was like forties music, but we loved it. It was so much fun dancing to and then when the band took a break, they would play the 45s that were popular at the time, like Blue Moon or whatever it was in that time, that would be like about 60. Oh my God. 63, 64, something like that. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1354.0,1415.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: And kids from all over the area would come there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1415.0,1418.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: From all over. From all over. You didn't have to be Catholic. No, anybody could go. It cost something to get in, but it was not a lot. You'd get dressed up in your straight skirt and your little paisley blouse and your teased hair and meet your friends there. And it would be from 2 to 5 in the afternoon, Sunday afternoon, something like that. It was just fun. It was just a fun thing to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1418.0,1457.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: c","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1457.0,1571.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Do you remember any of the movies you saw there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1571.0,1575.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I remember going with my mother to see a Doris Day movie. I'm trying to remember what the name of it was, but I know Doris Day was in it, whatever it was. And I had to be little, because I went with my mother. It wasn't like when I was older and went with my girlfriends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1575.0,1604.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. That sounds amazing. Were there other theaters that you remember on Jamaica Ave? Like the Merrick theater, I think, is the big white facade, a few blocks down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1604.0,1617.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. We'd go to all those theaters. They don't stand out. There was an RKO Keith's that was in Richmond Hill and it was right off Jamaica Avenue. There was a Jahn's ice cream parlor right next door to it. I don't know if that's still there. I know years ago it was still there, in the nineties. I took Sara, my daughter, there one time just to show her. Yeah, so we would go to the RKO Keith's and—I just watched Creature from the Black Lagoon two nights ago with my daughter. I remember seeing Creature from the Black Lagoon at the RKO Keith's. I do remember that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1617.0,1668.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1668.0,1673.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: But I just remember going there and I remember the sign, but the inside of it, there was nothing. It was like a regular theater. Nothing unusual or nothing that stood out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1673.0,1696.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Do you remember going to King Manor, the historic house, Rufus King Manor? Do you remember that at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1696.0,1709.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: No. Where was that? I don't even know where it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1709.0,1714.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: It's on Jamaica Avenue. There's a park behind it. It's a historic house, so it had to be there. You know where Grace Episcopal church is? It's a little bit west of that, more on the western side of Jamaica Ave.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1714.0,1731.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Okay. Like in the 160s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1731.0,1732.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah, I think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1732.0,1737.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I didn't know that area up there. They built a Mays department store, sometime in the sixties, maybe mid sixties, early sixties. And it was at the end of the El , and that would be the furthest that I would ever go. And that would be the only place that I would go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1737.0,1763.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: And do you remember when they took down the El? Was that in the seventies or eighties? 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People didn't close their blinds and you could see people eating at tables or washing the dishes. So it was sort of getting a little peak at that other life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1770.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: So is there anywhere else? Let's see. Did you do any banking on Jamaica Avenue? Do you remember any of the banks or any other buildings?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1830.0,1842.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Jamaica Savings bank. I'm pretty sure I had an account, a little savings account. I had a bank book, but it wasn't like I made deposits often. I don't even remember where I would get the money to make the deposits. And I don't think I had very much in there, but my parents used Jamaica Savings bank.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1842.0,1863.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Do you remember what street that was on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1863.0,1867.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1867.0,1868.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: I can look it up. There's a few banks, so, okay. Is there anything else that comes to mind about Jamaica center?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1868.0,1878.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I think that's about it. Those were the highlights of Jamaica center. I know that there was a bus terminal there, and there was also the Long Island Railroad had a stop up in Jamaica also, which I didn't even know about these places until maybe I was like 17 or 18 years old because I had no reason to go there. But then I had a girlfriend who lived in Hollis and, directions were to go there and get one of these buses in the Depot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1878.0,1923.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: So, for your family, Jamaica center was kind of the city. I remember you would say, Oh, we're going to the city and it meant Jamaica center. It didn't mean Manhattan. Right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1923.0,1934.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: No, that wasn't me. No, we didn't say Jamaica center. We didn't call it Jamaica center. It was just Jamaica. We're going to Jamaica. And I guess it just got renamed Center because of all the stores there, but there were always stores there. There was residential area also, but when we said Jamaica, that's what we meant. We were going shopping or we were going to get pizza or the movies. Whatever.. 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So I would have been 18, no, 17, hold on 19, maybe. Maybe it was after my sophomore year of college. No, it was after my freshman year of college. So that would have been '64. I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=1989.0,2017.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: That sounds right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2017.0,2019.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: It was there for two years. I'm not sure which year I'm remembering when I went. The reason that I went a lot is because there was this guy that I met in my freshman year who was working there and that was the attraction for me, actually. The rest of it, I didn't feel all that impressed. He worked at the Ford pavilion, and that's what it was like. So like cars, pavilions with cars. And I don't know, I didn't see anything. It didn't impress me, but I really wasn't looking. I wasn't really there to see what was there. I mean I was very preoccupied with this guy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2019.0,2073.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember the Unisphere or the New York State Pavilion? Did you go to those places?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2073.0,2081.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I know I was there. Yeah. I know that I did go there. I know I saw those things, but I don't remember my experience all that much. I went several times. I even went by myself once, you know, but I went with my friends, Laura and Paula, those same friends. I was still friends with them at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2081.0,2106.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2106.0,2110.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: So I'm sorry, I can't give you more information,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2110.0,2113.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: No, it's alright.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2113.0,2114.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I could give you a lot of information about Danny, but [laughing].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2114.0,2119.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: You were a lovestruck teenager, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2119.0,2123.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah, I had a crush.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2123.0,2124.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: You had a crush. [laughing] Do you remember there was another store called J Kurtz. I think it was more of a furniture store on Jamaica Ave.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2124.0,2138.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yes, I do. I do remember that. I think my parents bought furniture there, early American furniture. Decorated the house at one point. And every room had early American furniture, even my bedroom, everything. Desk, chest bed, everything. Yeah. I do remember that. But it wasn't my interest. And I didn't really especially like early American anyway, at least the kind they got. But it was nice. It matched.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2138.0,2185.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: It matched. Yeah. Was it all kind of dark wood colonial style? Is that what you mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2185.0,2191.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Well, yeah. My mother had a big hutch in the family room, like colonial hutch, and the same, the early American table and chairs and everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2191.0,2207.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. So you're talking about the early fifties.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2207.0,2213.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. And late forties even. I was born in 46, so it could have been in 49 or 50, I remember my grandmother, I told you that lived up the block, and at her house she had an ice box. This was before she got a refrigerator. And I remember being in her kitchen and it was small, it was on the floor and it had a handle, and it was a little box. And the ice man would come for everybody's ice boxes. They still have them. So it had to be like really early, because most people had refrigerators in the fifties. My mother had a ringer washing machine. We had a basement and would hang out the clothes to dry even in the winter time on the clothes line. So again, that's in the early fifties, late forties, early fifties. And then eventually she got a washer and dryer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2213.0,2283.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Would she handwash? Is a ringer just for drying?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2283.0,2289.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: It was a machine that was run by electricity and you put the clothes in, but it didn't spin. It twisted. And then when you wanted to rinse the clothes, there were two rollers and you [put] the clothes through the ringer to squeeze the water out. You would do that, and then drain the water out, then put the clothes in to rinse. You would again put them through the ringer before you hung them out to dry. That was quite an ordeal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2289.0,2331.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah, it sounds like it. And I never knew where that expression came from, you know, putting someone through the ringer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2331.0,2337.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah, exactly. And I had a little toy ringer washing machine when I was a little girl. And when my mother was doing the wash, she would put the water in there and I would wash my doll clothes. But then there was also during that period, there would be the man who would come with his cart, his horse pulling the cart, to sharpen the knives and he would call out, he would ring a bell and call out, whatever he said and sharpening or whatever. And everybody would come out of their house and stand in line to get their knives and scissors sharpened. There was the fuller brush man would come every so often selling hairbrushes and I don't know what else. I remember we always had really nice hairbrushes. There was the insurance man would come to the house. I was oldest of five kids. And the day after my mother got home from the hospital with each kid, the insurance man would be at our house, signing up the next kid for a policy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2337.0,2413.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: How did they know? Were they in touch with the hospital?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2413.0,2419.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I guess my father called them and said, you know, the current kid. And then there were house visits from the doctor. Doctor Petz would come over if anybody was sick, had a fever or didn't feel good. Dr. Petz would come up to the bedroom and check out whoever it was who was sick. So you didn't go to the office ever. I think the only time I went to his—Oh, when you were getting better, like as a followup, you'd go to the office. He would see you in the office when you weren't bedridden. But when we were sick, we stayed in bed. We didn't get out of bed like kids today or even my kids. You didn't get up and you stayed in your bedroom in bed. And you had a radio. You could listen to a radio and your mother would bring you all your meals and you'd have a little table for the bed—a bed table that you could eat your meal on and you just stayed in bed. I was sick a lot as a kid, so I spent a lot of time in bed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2419.0,2508.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: It was more like a quarantine there or, you know, they quarantined kids more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2508.0,2513.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. Well, it's the chicken pox and the measles. It's scarlet fever, all those things. Yeah. So those were the things because I was remembering how people would come to the house. You didn't have to go out and be some place. It was more of an intimate—everything that you did, even your insurance, your hairbrushes, it was an intimate experience, than ordering online. And when these people came, they would be chatting and, it wasn't just all business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2513.0,2561.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah, so. I'm sure they knew their customers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2561.0,2566.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. In the day time—it's like my mother would be friends with whoever was living next door or up the block. People would come over for coffee in the middle of the morning, say 10:30, 11 o'clock in the morning. It would just be not unusual for somebody—a friend or my aunt— to be in the kitchen having—and they'd just be in there literally, they would drink coffee. That's what they did. 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Nobody called to check if you were going to be home or if you were free. Life wasn't as jam packed full of things.You could stop, you could pause and have a conversation and visit with somebody. It wasn't formal, in your day for like 10 o'clock Saturday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2610.0,2676.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. That sounds nice in a way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2676.0,2680.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. It reminded me of Arek [interviewer's son's name] going out bike riding now on 34th Avenue, that's what it was like for us as kids. Only it was all open. It wasn't just a section. It was wherever, as far as you could go, wherever you wanted to go. There's a freedom that kids don't have at this point. You had more independence. You really did. Much more independence. 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We had regular dial phones in my, in my house, but my girlfriends had phones that were party lines. And I guess it was a cheaper way to have a telephone so that you shared it with other people. I don't remember how many, but if they wanted to make a phone call, they could pick up the phone and hear another conversation going on and they would have to wait until those people finish their conversation. And there would be no way that I can remember of them knowing. I think they'd just have to like pick it up again and see if it was free and then they would hear a dial tone. I didn't like that because anybody could pick up on your conversation and listen to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2724.0,2777.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Of course. There's no privacy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2777.0,2780.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: But you know, people did it with that understanding and I guess it was just a lot cheaper. 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Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2799.0,2801.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: The hammock. We had a tree that I called the string bean tree because it had those long—I forget what it's really called—those long green beans on it would grow and lean next to, we had a little summer house we called it attached to the garage, like a tool shed. And there was that tree leaned on it and you could climb up it and the way the branches were, you could just kind of fit your body in the branches and lay there. And they [current inhabitants of her house] had like old cars and they had cemented it all over. Same with the front yards. They all were gardens before. And now they're all cyclone fenced in with locks and guard dogs and they're all cemented over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2801.0,2855.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Why do people do that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2855.0,2862.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I don't know. Maybe corrupt? Maybe it got dangerous, you know? When I was growing up, it just wasn't like that. 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I guess like, if you have a yard, if you have a garden, you have to be outside and if you don't feel safe outside, then you're just going to stay inside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2877.0,2887.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I couldn't even comprehend that. Not feeling safe. I mean, you just hung out on your stoop. It was as if you were in your house. You were as safe as going to the school yard, just playing on the sidewalk, riding your bike, playing in the yard, sitting on the stoop, doing the gardening. My mother would put her babies out in the front, in front of the front door, in the carriage and leave them there to get fresh air, to take a nap. Instead of putting them in the crib, she put them for a nap. And so the carriage would just be, there was no gate. There was no [fence]; it was a totally open, you know, it was like on the pathway to the stairs, to the front, to the stoop. She'd have the carriage there. She'd just put the brake on and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2887.0,2942.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: —let the baby sleep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909#t=2942.0,2944.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118909/transcript/30474/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Let the baby sleep and nobody took the baby. Nobody even thought that anybody would take the baby, You know, never do that. You would never do that now. 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And we're continuing the interview. So Generose, tell me about your father's family, when they came to the US?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1.0,21.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Well, they both came in early 1900s, not at the exact same time, but I think one of them was 1906 and maybe one of them was 1908, something like that. They came from Czechoslovakia—I think that's what it was called at the time. And they lived on the Upper East Side in Yorkville. That area was filled with Czechoslovakians. I don't know exactly when they moved to Richmond Hill, but I know that my father's mother, my paternal grandmother, owned a house in Richmond Hill. So at some point that happened and I really don't know the history around that [except] that my father grew up there. His father died when he was 12, I think. He worked in a factory where they were some kind of metal filings in the air and he contracted a lung issue because of it and died very young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=21.0,98.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. So just to put some dates down, your father, he was born in 1915, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=98.0,108.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: 1916","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=108.0,109.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Your grandfather would have died in '28, 1928.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=109.0,115.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=115.0,118.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: And do you want to just say the names of your grandparents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=118.0,122.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: My grandmother's name, her maiden name was Ana Heil.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=122.0,130.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Heil. H E I L.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=130.0,131.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: And the married name, my grandfather's name was Cervenka C E R V E N K A. And she had a brother, Anton Heil who left sometime soon, or maybe even before my grandfather died and he moved out to Montana and had a cattle ranch out there. And I know at some point he wanted my grandmother and the kids to move out there and be with him. But she decided to stay in New York. My father was the youngest of three children. And so his older brother, I think his brother, I don't know how many years older he was—A number—enough so that he was old enough to work. He quit school and started working. And then his sister also quit school and did work. I don't know what she did. Eventually my uncle opened up a fruit and vegetable store in Richmond Hill.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=131.0,206.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: So did your grandparents get married in the US? Did they meet in the US or did they immigrate over together?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=206.0,216.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: No, they met in the US and, I can tell that because I have wedding pictures. I have both of them in a wedding picture. And I think it's marked in New York, so it must have been also in Yorktown when that happened. Other than that, I don't know very much about where they came from, what town or city from Czechoslovakia. I don't really know much of the background at all. Sometimes on the census, the census takings that I've seen, they will write down they're from Austria. And I don't know whether, at those times, just the geography was changing or, it's just because it is the general area of Austria and Czechoslovakia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=216.0,285.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: It was the Austrio-Hungarian empire. Right? Yeah. But it's funny they would call it Austria, but maybe that's how people referred to it at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=285.0,295.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: It could have been the census worker too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=295.0,298.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=298.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Not knowing and just putting it down. Who knows.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=300.0,303.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: What was your grandfather's name? Do you remember his name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=303.0,307.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: His name, I believe it was Jan. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's what his name was. I actually have the death certificate, but I haven't looked at it in a long time. Cervenka. My paternal grandparents. I don't know. I don't have information. They never talked to him [about] exactly where they came from in Czechoslovakia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=307.0,339.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Did they... Were there any aspects of Czech culture that they passed on in terms of recipes or, I don't know. Were there any objects in your house that related to Czech culture? Do you feel like they kind of shed it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=339.0,354.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah, not much. There was every once in a while, my grandmother would make a kind of, not a pot roast, [but] a brisket kind of dish with these things she called specheluhs, and they were like a doughy thing that you kind of scraped into boiling water and then eat with gravy. That's the only thing. And she didn't do that a lot. By the time I was born, she already had arthritis and she also had cataracts and she wasn't all that mobile. She lived by herself in a small apartment, but, she didn't do a lot. And every once in a while, she would come to our house and stay overnight, even though it was in Richmond Hill also. And I remember when she had her cataract surgery, she stayed with us and she had to lay on the couch with her head between two pillows for a month, basically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=354.0,431.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: It was very different then, than it is today. But I really don't remember very much about the culture at all. I didn't feel that much identified with the Czechs. I know in school, when they went around asking what your nationality was, I was kind of embarrassed because nobody else was Czech. There were a lot of Poles and Irish, and I don't know whatever, but nobody else was Czech and it just felt weird. It just felt too unique. And then, we might as well go into my mother's side, which were German descent. And I don't even know when they first came. I know my great grandmother didn't have an accent, and I believe she was born here. My great grandmother, I believe lived in Germantown, which is now Ridgewood, Queens, but at the time when she lived it was farms and it was called Germantown because of all Germans there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=431.0,515.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Oh, interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=515.0,515.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: And so the only thing—the German custom, I guess, or tradition was sour meat. When every fall, my grandmother would have the whole family and make sour meat and potato dumplings, which are the best things in the world, and red cabbage. And that would be a thing. We'd do that a couple of times a year actually, because it was so good. But I also felt embarrassed about being German, because of World War II. I felt embarrassed to be associated with Germany. So that was another thing when I had to say what my ancestry was in class, it was like German and Czech, you know, it's like, Oh my God. I really cringed. And also, my best friends were Jewish, who I played with from the earliest time, aside from my cousins, the ones that were not family were these two girls on the block and they were Jewish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=515.0,604.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: So do you remember that kind of anti-German sentiment, like being talked about, or, or do you remember how it was manifested?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=604.0,613.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I didn't hear it from my family. I just knew about it from history, and Nazis—the word Nazi. And I just felt like being German associated you with that. My mother was blonde hair, blue eyed and very fair skin. My uncle had kind of reddish hair and they all had the blue eyes and very fair skin. And I don't know what to say. That's just how I took it. I don't know if my siblings even ever thought about that. But also, I was born in 1946, so a lot closer to that history than my siblings. It was six years before there was another child born in my family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=613.0,676.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Do you have any other memories of your maternal grandparents? Like what did they do for work or do you have any—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=676.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. So, well, my great-grandfather, I think I told you this in the last interview, he was a bookie originally, and then he got into real estate and he lived in Jamaica Estates. I'm sure he knew the Trumps; I'm sure that they did. My grandfather, my maternal grandfather was a gambler and my great-grandfather was a bookie. I have a feeling, I don't know it for sure or maybe it was just prevalent at the time, but I just have a feeling that somehow that my grandmother met my grandfather somehow through her father. But first of all, he was married.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=690.0,755.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Wait, your grandfather [or your greatgrandfather] ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=755.0,758.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: [My grandfather] was married so he got a divorce or maybe he was divorced when she met him. I don't know, but they were Catholic. And, for my grandmother to marry him, she had to be ex-communicated from the church, which she was. It wasn't until after my grandfather died that she was allowed to go back to church. And my grandfather was not the nicest of people. He, for a brief period of time, he drove a trolley car. They had trolleys in Queens at the time. But most of the time he didn't work and he just went to the racetrack and placed bets, he was a gambler. And, he had a horrible temperament. He was very nasty. I know he would run after my cousin, Terry, some time. And Susan and Terry sometimes stayed with my grandmother, because of the problems at their home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=758.0,824.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: And I know my grandfather sometimes went after Terry, chasing after him with his cane raised in the air, trying to hit him. And he was always complaining and always yelling at my grandmother. He was just not a nice person at all. And my grandmother wound up having to work in a factory. I think she worked at a Bulova factory. It might be the one—you know that one up 77th street [in Jackson Heights near the Grand Central Parkway]. It might've been that one that she worked at where she would line the boxes for the watches with the blue velvet. Because she would bring some of those boxes home sometimes. [She had to work there] because he didn't provide for them. And I know during the depression, both my parents suffered during the depression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=824.0,890.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: My father [suffered] because his father had died; my mother, because her father was a gambler, and both of them really hardly had any food during the depression. I know my father said he never owned a toothbrush until he went to school and then a teacher gave him a toothbrush because he didn't even know [about toothbrushes]. And my mother talked about just having a bowl of cereal for every meal. That would be what they would have. Although once a year—my great grandparents, my maternal grandmother's parents were very wealthy. I mean, really wealthy and they would give her money and she wouldn't let my grandfather know about it. She would just keep it to buy food at times, or to buy shoes for the kids, whatever. The gambler grandfather wound up dying, I think, in the 1960s. It must have been in the early sixties, very early sixties or late fifties because I was still very young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=890.0,977.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I remember when it happened. My mother hated him. I think there might have been some kind of abuse that went on because he would take her to the racetrack with him and show her off to his friends. And she wound up leaving home as a teenager to be a live in babysitter. So I don't know whether that was because of money or just to get away. They didn't talk much about their parents or talk badly of them, but I knew my mother, I heard her talk about him and how she just hated him. So I have a feeling either physical or sexual abuse went on with him. And, like I said, he was a very nasty guy. He was mean and [had a] really ugly temperament.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=977.0,1041.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Do you think he was likely an alcoholic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1041.0,1044.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: No, no, no, no. Just mean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1044.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: And your grandmother was working. Do you remember her at all or her personality or—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1050.0,1060.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: My grandmother's the kind of person who would have given anybody the shirt off her back. She was that kind of person. When my great grandmother died, the great grandfather died first. And then my great-grandmother lived, I don't know how many years more, but after she died, all the money got divided up. I even got money. I got a chunk of money. And the money she got, and it did go evenly, she basically wound up spending and giving to her youngest child, my uncle Willard, who was very irresponsible. He was spoiled. He had had asthma as a child. He was the youngest child and was very self-centered. He had to move to Arizona and she wound up going out there with them, buying a house for them, providing for them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1060.0,1134.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I think basically all her money went to him. But she was a nice old lady. I liked my grandmother. I know I spent a lot of time with her and my cousins, Susan and Terry and I. Susan and I would play beauty parlor with her and we'd do her hair and we'd put makeup on her. We'd get all her makeup out and do her face up. We'd play store, get her jewelry out. We'd do a lot of things. She took us to the ice cream parlor all the time. And when you would go get ice cream with my parents, you could get a small cone. With my grandmother, the sky was the limit. You could get whatever you wanted. It didn't matter. [interviewee added: We would go mostly to an ice cream parlor on Jamaica Avenue called Goosen’s, and sometimes to Jahn’s in Richmond Hill. I think we even ordered a “kitchen sink” one time. I know Jahn’s still exists in Jackson Heights but not sure if “kitchen sink” is still on the menu. It was a very large bowl filled with balls of ice cream and bananas, cherries, nuts, syrups … everything but the kitchen sink. I’m sure that’s how the name came about.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1134.0,1191.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: That sounds familiar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1191.0,1197.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: And it was the same with—every summer, my maternal grandmother and my Aunt Millie, who was Susan and Terry's mother, would take the three of us to Coney Island. And it was always the Sunday after Labor Day; it would be after the public schools started, but before the Catholic schools started so that it wouldn't be as crowded. We'd take the train. The train would take at least an hour to get there to Coney Island. We'd get there and we'd spend the whole time, from the moment we got off the train, we'd start getting ice cream cones and cotton candy. And my grandma just kept on giving us more money for more rides. And again, it was like the sky was the limit. Whatever you want to go on, the parachute jump. Whatever we wanted to do. We wouldn't get back until late at night, like 10 o'clock at night. We'd spend the whole day there going on rides and just eating and walking around. And it was every summer, right before school started, we would go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1197.0,1279.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah, that's wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1279.0,1281.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: One year my parents came and it ruined the whole thing. Then some of my siblings had been born and it was then, everything was limited. You had to ask before you could get anything and maybe you'd get it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1281.0,1303.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. I can imagine. So your mom had two siblings?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1303.0,1312.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: No, she had three. She had an older brother, Harold. I think he was two years older than her. Then my aunt Millie was a year or two younger than her. And then my uncle Willard was 10 years younger than her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1312.0,1329.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1329.0,1333.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah, there were four of them. My father had only two siblings, his older brother and older sister.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1333.0,1342.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: And do you have any memories of them? Were they around or—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1342.0,1348.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1348.0,1351.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: If you don't want to talk about anyone, that's fine. It's up to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1351.0,1356.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: It doesn't really matter. My uncle, they're not alive anymore. It was funny. My father's sister, aunt Anne, she lived right next door to my aunt Millie, my mother's sister, but they weren't friends. I mean, they were neighbors and they said hi, and they didn't have any animosity and saw each other at really extended family [gatherings], maybe an Easter or Christmas or something, but really didn't have much to do with each other. And we didn't have all that much to do with her either. I think because my mother wasn't close with her. She was older than my mother. Not a lot older, but a bit older. And just for whatever reason, they didn't hang out. They never became friends. My mother didn't like my father's family all that much. I know she complained about them a lot. She would always complain about my uncle, John's fruit and vegetables. And usually on Fridays, my father would go and do the shopping and [when] he'd come home, she'd be complaining about how he always set aside the worst things for them and put them in the bag. \"Look at this, look at the, look at it. It's all wilted, it's all this, it's all that.\" You know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1356.0,1457.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: So, we didn't really we didn't have that much to do with them. Uncle John was married to this woman, my aunt Bea and they never had children. Her father lived with them, Pops. And I guess when I was really little, maybe starting when I was four or five, and then for a few years, they would take me to Rye Playland. And I would have to stay overnight at their house and it was just really creepy. I just really hated being there and being with them. I don't know how else to describe it [except] as kind of creepy, but whenever I would see them, they would put their hands down my underpants and squeeze my butt. And I just cringed. It was different with my aunt Millie who, she wasn't like a second mother at all, because she was so very different than my mother. She was just kind of like a free spirit in a very [crazy way]—whereas my mother was very conservative and Aunt Millie was just—I don't know how to describe her. I used to have fun with her. I used to like to hang out with her and she was crazy. She was a little crazy. Yeah. A lot crazy. But, I forget where I went off on that tangent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1457.0,1563.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: No, I'm just asking about your father's siblings, but I mean, maybe we could talk about your parents now, just like, you could talk about what they did for work, what their personalities were like, or memories—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1563.0,1581.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Okay. Well, my mother. As soon as she was pregnant with me, then she didn't work anymore. She was a housewife. She stayed home. She had worked at the telephone company. I don't know exactly what she did there before. But then she was a homemaker, after she was pregnant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1581.0,1608.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Did she go to college? I assume not...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1608.0,1611.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: No. She went to high school. They both finished high school, but neither one of them went to college. I think that she was a thwarted artist, because she was always doing things with her hands. A lot of it had to do with handwork, embroidery, knitting, crocheting, sewing. She didn't just make dresses. She made coats, she made suits for herself for her kids or whoever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1611.0,1655.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: And they were all perfect. It looked like it was a [hand]made, it was just very finely tailored. And, all of her hand work— she [also] did crewel embroidery. She did all of that stuff. Well, she took ceramics classes. What else did she do? She painted; she did a couple of paintings, small paintings, still lives. And then I had a chest in my bedroom and she painted it white, and then she painted on it a whole garland and with a big ribbon of roses all over it, twirling around. And she did it with oil paints.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1655.0,1709.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: So she had a whole set of oil paints. And I really think that in a different time in a different place, she probably, if she could conceive of that, she would have been an artist because she was very [talented]. That's what she did. That's how she spent her time. And then when I was in elementary school, she had a club for me and my girlfriends called the busy bee club. And we met, I think on Tuesday or Thursday afternoons after school, my Jewish friends, Laura and Paula came and a girl from my Catholic school, Ann Buckley, came. And I think that was everybody; maybe Lorraine across the street one year. I can't remember exactly, but she taught us how to sew. I think the first thing we made were reversible skating skirts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1709.0,1776.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: So that's pretty much a feat to do a reversible skirt. She [also] taught us how to knit. We knit; first we knit mittens. Then we knit sweaters for ourselves. She taught us how to do the ceramics; we'd get the molds. And then she showed us how to sand them down and paint them. And in the summer time, we would make earrings out of rick rack and, in and out, and it would look like a flower and then put a pearl in the middle of it and glued the backs on it. We'd make a whole bunch of them and would go out to the neighborhood and sell them to the neighbors. And then we took that money and we did our own little Coney Island jaunt with that money, with my parents, that was a different Coney Island trip.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1776.0,1833.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: That's great. That's amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1833.0,1835.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: She probably taught us other things also. I just don't remember, but that's how I learned how to sew, how to knit, how to crochet, how to embroider when I was little, when I was very young. So yeah, so that's how she spent a lot of her time in the [afternoons]. She kept everything very neat. Every time you dried your hand on a towel or took a shower or a bath, the towel went into the hamper. She did wash every single day. She ironed everything. She ironed her sheets like I iron my sheets. That's how I got into that habit. She ironed every day. She ironed everything: underwear, hankerchiefs, everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1835.0,1897.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: But in the afternoons, especially even in the winter, it would be inside, but in the summertime we'd be outside in the yard. She'd have a playpen out there because there were always babies around. And she would sit in the chair with her embroidery or knitting or whatever, and friends would come over for coffee or just to sit and do their knitting or whatever, and that's how the days were spent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1897.0,1929.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: My father worked at his brother's grocery store for a little while. And then after the war, he joined the fire department FDNY and that was his career.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1929.0,1949.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: This was after World War II, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1949.0,1952.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: After World War II. Yeah. And he wound up becoming a captain in the fire department at the firehouse on Union Turnpike. It's up going towards St. John's on Union Turnpike. He was the captain there for many years. He was other places before that, but [the Union Turnpike station] was the whole end time of his career as a fireman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1952.0,1986.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: They were both active in the church. My mother washed and ironed the vestments for the priests. And she belonged to the Rosary society. Also, my father belonged to the Holy Name society. And I know there was a time when he would go to, I guess it was Rikers, and talk to prisoners. He'd give them [the prisoners] spiritual or pep talks. That was a thing that they did in the Holy Name society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=1986.0,2035.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: First I just want to ask what was the name of the church and it was a Catholic church, I assume, or,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2035.0,2042.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah, Our Lady of the Cenacle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2042.0,2044.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Oh, that. The church across the street. Okay. And was the society he was in, was that a men's group or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2044.0,2055.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I think the Holy Name. I think it was just men. I really don't remember. I don't remember my mother being in it. So that's why I'm thinking the Rosary society maybe was for women. It may not have been, I assume that because that's what they did. So, he would do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2055.0,2082.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: He didn't have like a regular nine to five, Monday through Friday job, so he would be off [some weekdays] in the summertime [because his shifts rotated]. And even if he worked overnight and came home in the morning, a lot of afternoons, he would take me and my girlfriends to the beach, to the Rockaways. And if my father didn't [take us] then their father would, because their father was a truck driver for Kosta's [phonetic] bread. It was home baked, or freshly baked bread that he brought around to the bakeries. And he had to get up at three o'clock in the morning. He was home, also the same thing. So one or the other fathers would wind up taking us to the Rockaways in the summertime. And I do remember my father taking us also in the fall to playgrounds, to Forest Park and also sledding in Forest Park. There were a lot of great hills there to do, when it snowed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2082.0,2163.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Trying to remember other stuff. He had friends in the fire department. It was a very fraternal order. And so he'd made a lot of friendships and there were two families that we would do things with a lot, especially in the summer time, once a week practically, go on picnics out to Wildwood State Park on Long Island. We'd go early in the morning. They had kids all our ages, and then the kids would just separate from the adults [when we got there]. We could just be free to— I guess as the older kids, we would just go and climb up to the cliffs and run down the cliffs or go to the playground. And we'd have a barbecue lunch and already the parents would have whiskey sours.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2163.0,2236.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: That would be their thing. And then we'd go to the beach for the whole afternoon. They had showers and changing places there so that you didn't have to stay in your bathing suit all day. It was Long Island Sound, and so we'd be at the beach, then we'd go back afterwards [to the picnic area] and the adults would start up the barbecue for dinner and also [have] some more whisky sours, and then we'd have dinner. And then the kids would go off again to the cliffs and to the beach for the sunset. The parents would play horse shoes and we'd be there until it was dark. And then we'd go home. But we did that all the time growing up and they, and my parents and the parents of those two families.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2236.0,2295.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: There would be a lot of fireman dances or maybe they were church dances at those fireman's churches, but there [was] always [something]—Sometimes they had parties. There was a lot of social life. If they were going to a dinner, before dinner or a dance, people would always come over and have cocktails at our house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2295.0,2329.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: So did you have to babysit or did they bring a babysitter?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2329.0,2333.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: No, no. I was a babysitter. And so my brother still complains about that. 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His second job was repairing radios and TVs, which he had learned when he was in the Navy, because he worked on some secret project, radar or something. I don't know, electronics. He learned electronics. They sent him to school at MIT.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2354.0,2389.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. He always talked about being in Boston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2389.0,2392.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. And, so he had that skill. He knew how to do that. And he had a workshop set up in the basement so that when he was home, that's where he was, always in the basement. 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In fact, one time I came home from school and I walked through the living room and I saw my father in the porch sitting in one of the chairs with his head back like this, with his eyes all bandaged up. And I ran to my mother and I said, what happened to Daddy? What happened? And she said he was in a fire. His eyes got burned. And there had been a fire on the El. I guess it was the Z or the J train at that time that they were elevated. And there was a fire and I think it was the light and the heat burned his corneas. And it was the summertime cause I remember he was basically home that whole summer and I remember having to wear sunglasses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2427.0,2492.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Wow. Do you remember the year? Just curious, more or less?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2492.0,2498.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I don't. I would have to have been in elementary school, but maybe I was about 10 or 11.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2498.0,2507.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Okay. So fifties, probably mid, late fifties.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2507.0,2512.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. But he never talked about what happened, and I never heard him talk about going into a fire or anything about it at all, about saving anybody, about anything about it. He just didn't talk about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2512.0,2540.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. Interesting. Maybe he didn't want to scare you or it was just such a separate world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2540.0,2551.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: That's what I think. I think it was apart. I think it was a separate, totally separate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2551.0,2560.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Let's see. Have we missed anything or is there anything else?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2560.0,2571.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I don't know. I mean, you can always think about it and if you have any other questions you could ask me and if I think of anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2571.0,2585.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Catholic school was not fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2585.0,2589.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. [laughing] So this is the—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2589.0,2596.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Although I was a good girl. I was a good girl and I behaved myself. I didn't get into trouble at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2596.0,2603.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: The Catholic school, across the street. Right? The Cenacle. What was it called?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2603.0,2609.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Our Lady of the Cenacle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2609.0,2612.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. I first started at PS 54 in kindergarten and I liked that. I liked that a lot. It was really fun. I remember there was a Playhouse, a big doll house Playhouse kind of thing. And I remember all the blocks and all the various things that kids play with. And, that was fun. Then starting first grade [in Catholic school], you just sat in your seat the whole time. There was no playing. You just sat in your seat and you learned by rote, everything was by rote, you memorized everything. I remember learning how to print and practicing on that lined paper and I would make everything perfect. I would get A's and A plus in everything. I did everything perfectly, and then I was the smartest girl in the class most of the time, between me and Esther Kolawaski.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2612.0,2686.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: And do you remember when did you switch over to Catholic school and do you know why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2686.0,2692.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Well, first grade. I only went to kindergarten because they didn't have kindergarten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2692.0,2697.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Oh, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2697.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: I don't know why they felt the need to get me in kindergarten. I mean, my mother was home. There was no reason. It was a half a day. I think it wasn't a whole day even. I guess my mother just said, well, it's time to go to school. But of course I was going to go to the Catholic school across the street when the time came and then I wound up— At that time, they did it by the half year. So I started in January. I went in kindergarten in the fall and then the next semester I started in the Catholic school. And then when they decided to do it just yearly and not half yearly, cause you'd have 1A and 1B and 2A and 2B. So I wound up skipping [a half grade]. I think I did 6B, 7A, and 7B all in the same year. They just squished it into one to get everything just on an annual basis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2700.0,2771.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2771.0,2775.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: All those stories you hear about the nuns are true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2775.0,2782.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Did they slap your wrists with rulers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2782.0,2786.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Not mine because I didn't do anything wrong, but the boys, the boys, especially, the boys. And in fact there was this one nun who was brutal. My cousin Terry had her, I didn't even have her, but she would use the wooden rulers with the metal in them, for underlining, and she would make their hands bleed. She would hit them so hard with the metal parts so that it would get cut and bleed. Yeah, she was horrible. Yeah. Horrible. In my [class], they would get their hands hit, but they didn't bleed. None of the nuns that I had did that. The worst thing they did to a girl was to my friend, Rosemary Kuhli. They made her sit in the wastepaper basket. In front of the class. She was talking, She was being [inaudible] in class.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2786.0,2862.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Oh my god. [laughing].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2862.0,2862.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: It's a different time. It's definitely a different time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2862.0,2867.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: And I'm sure that the parents—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2867.0,2869.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: It was totally humiliating. It was totally humiliating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2869.0,2874.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. That was the point. Right. And I'm sure the parents were supportive of that kind of discipline for their kids. Parents didn't complain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2874.0,2885.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Either they didn't know or they didn't care. I remember my father saying to me before I started first grade, at the Catholic school, saying something about me getting a dunce cap on my head. And I just had this image of this dunce cap. I don't know why it would be orange and that they were going to put it on my head. So maybe that's why I learned everything and was so good because I didn't want to get a dunce cap. I don't know. I was the quietest. In fact, I got so quiet and I hardly talked, like literally, I didn't talk a lot well into my teenage years, to anybody about anything. I just became very, very quiet, very, interior. In fact, I remember being maybe 14, 15 years old and going some place after a dance, maybe after Mary Immaculate, one time we'd go and get a soda or an ice cream or something. And more than once, people who were mean at that time would say something like, \"Oh, cat got your tongue.\" Because I couldn't say anything. I was so shy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2885.0,2974.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2974.0,2978.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Which is hard to believe now, but, [laughing]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2978.0,2983.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: [laughing] So you stayed in Catholic school all through high school, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2983.0,2990.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. I went to Catholic high school also in South Ozone park. It was Our Lady of Wisdom. It's not around anymore. I don't know when it closed, but it was very, very small. It was regarded academically as one of the best.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=2990.0,3014.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Was it a girls school or coed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3014.0,3016.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: It was totally all girls school. There were, I think, three classes of each grade maybe with, I don't know, 30, 40 kids in each, if that many. I can't remember how big the classes were, but it was a small school. It wasn't a big school, but that was pretty horrible too. It was just very restrictive. And I don't remember learning anything that I was interested in there. I did make friends and [inaudible], and I did get into some trouble. When I was there, I think I started to rebel some, but nothing terrible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3016.0,3071.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. Do you feel like you started to talk more in high school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3071.0,3077.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: A little bit more. Yes. Well, when I got to know people, when I made my friends, my girlfriends. You'd sit at the same lunch table. You got your lunch table and so you sat every day with the same people. And you're also in the same class for four years. It's the same people. It didn't change, you know? And when you had different subjects, you were all still in the same class, nothing changed it. All day long with the same people for four years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3077.0,3114.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: And do you think there was an expectation that the students would go on to college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3114.0,3121.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Absolutely. In this school? Yeah. I never doubted that I wouldn't go to college. It just was assumed that I would go. I didn't think of where, or what I wanted to do, but it was an academic school. You had the academic Catholic schools and you had the commercial. And the girls that went to the commercial schools—which they didn't have for boys, only for girls—learned how to do stenography and typing. That kind of thing, to become secretaries basically. In the academic schools, you went specifically to go to college. You were getting prepared to go to college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3121.0,3167.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. Interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3167.0,3175.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Just to backtrack for a minute. I just remembered there was the Hillside roller rink that we would go to every Wednesday after school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3175.0,3187.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: In high school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3187.0,3190.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Elementary school. Like when I said, we made the skating skirts. That's what we did. I owned roller skates. I had my own roller skates. And you just whizzed around. I could skate backwards. It was just fun and everybody went; it was just a fun thing. So people who grew up at that time will remember the Hillside Roller Rink.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3190.0,3221.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: I wonder what it is now. Do you remember what you would do for fun in high school? Were there dances or—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3221.0,3238.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yes, well, there were the dances at Mary Immaculate Hospital, but then there would be— Archbishop Molloy High School was an all boys high school. My cousin Terry actually went there for a while. And starting in the fall, they'd have basketball games. And then after the basketball games, they would have these hops. They'd call them the hops, they were like dances. So we would go to that. And then sometimes they just had regular dances that would be longer. The hops would be maybe for an hour after the basketball game, but the dances would be the whole evening if there wasn't [inaudible]. So that's what we would do in high school. That was the main thing. Now I didn't do that with my Jewish girlfriends because, they weren't going to socialize with the Catholic boys that their parents didn't want them to do that. So I would go with my girlfriends from school, from the Catholic high school, but I would still always hang out with Laura and Paula, my Jewish girlfriends. After school I would go up to their place and we'd watch American Bandstand everyday. That's what we would do every day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3238.0,3328.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Was anybody dating in high school or was it too restrictive an environment?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3328.0,3339.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: It was pretty restrictive. It wasn't forbidden, but there weren't that many girls who went steady. It would be a couple of girls and not in freshman year, especially maybe one girl. But for the most part, no, we didn't have boyfriends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3339.0,3363.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Sorry, I just need to plug this in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3363.0,3376.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Occasionally, you'd go on a date or a blind date, but it wasn't fun. It was uncomfortable, for me anyway. And I'd rather go with my girlfriends to a dance and then you get to dance with the boys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3376.0,3397.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. I'm sure it was hard. Did you guys ever go into Manhattan? I'm just curious, with your friends girlfriends?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3397.0,3411.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: No, not until I was in college. We would go to Brooklyn. There would be St. Michael's in Brooklyn. St. Michael's was a commercial high school for girls, but they also had [dances], I think on Friday nights maybe. And I would take the Atlantic Avenue bus. You could get it on Van Wyck Expressway and Jamaica Avenue, and it went up and along Atlantic Avenue and take it all the way down to St. Michael's and we'd go to those dances.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3411.0,3449.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. All right. I think I'm out of questions. I don't know if anything else comes to mind from that era. I know there's a lot, it's hard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3449.0,3470.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generose Lambert: Yeah. Also my battery, I can see I'm at 13 in my tablet. Yeah. I think that's good if I think of anything, I\"ll let you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3470.0,3487.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908/transcript/30475/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda Ganjian: Yeah. Let me know. Hold on a second. Let me just stop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45811/file/118908#t=3487.0,3490.89956"}]}]}]}