{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/6h4cn6zk04/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Charles Ruas Oral History"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/010/original/Aviary_QPLlogo_192x192.png?1578574261","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCharles Ruas is an American author, translator, literary and art critic, and interviewer. He lives and works in New York City.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eThis interview focuses on how Charles Ruas came to New York, and his childhood in Queens. His family was displaced from Tianjin, China, at the end of WWII in 1946, and as French citizens they went to France where his mother was recruited for the newly formed United Nations because of her language skills. The UN provided an apartment in Parkway Village Queens, and he and his brothers came from France to join her in 1950. He was 13 when he came to live in Parkway Village, which was housing built for foreign diplomats and UN workers who could not get housing elsewhere because of racism. He talks about having a “harmonious” life in the intentionally built community of Parkway Village with families from around the world and many cultures, and how they all became integrated and assimilated into American culture. The residents did not have much interaction with people in surrounding communities, partially because Queens was not as built up as it is now, but they did go to Jamaica Center and Flushing to shop and see movies, and also to the Queens Public Library on Parsons Boulevard. Many children from Parkway Village attended Jamaica High School, which had to adapt to having international students after the war. He graduated from Jamaica High School in 1956 and went on to go to Princeton; his mother lived in Parkway Village the rest of her life.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://clocktower.org/series/historic-audio-from-the-archives-of-charles-ruas\"\u003eHistoric Audio from the Archives of Charles Ruas\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCC BY-NC-SA Contact digitalarchives@queenslibrary.org for research and reproduction requests.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["http://digitalarchives.queenslibrary.org/search/browse/45792"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2020-03-03 (created)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Charles Ruas (Interviewee)","Josselyn Atahualpa (Interviewer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Coverage"]},"value":{"en":["1946-1956 (temporal)","Parkway Village, Briarwood, Queens, NY (spatial)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCharles Ruas is an American author, translator, literary and art critic, and interviewer. He lives and works in New York City.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eThis interview focuses on how Charles Ruas came to New York, and his childhood in Queens. His family was displaced from Tianjin, China, at the end of WWII in 1946, and as French citizens they went to France where his mother was recruited for the newly formed United Nations because of her language skills. The UN provided an apartment in Parkway Village Queens, and he and his brothers came from France to join her in 1950. He was 13 when he came to live in Parkway Village, which was housing built for foreign diplomats and UN workers who could not get housing elsewhere because of racism. He talks about having a \u0026ldquo;harmonious\u0026rdquo; life in the intentionally built community of Parkway Village with families from around the world and many cultures, and how they all became integrated and assimilated into American culture. The residents did not have much interaction with people in surrounding communities, partially because Queens was not as built up as it is now, but they did go to Jamaica Center and Flushing to shop and see movies, and also to the Queens Public Library on Parsons Boulevard. Many children from Parkway Village attended Jamaica High School, which had to adapt to having international students after the war. He graduated from Jamaica High School in 1956 and went on to go to Princeton; his mother lived in Parkway Village the rest of her life.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://clocktower.org/series/historic-audio-from-the-archives-of-charles-ruas\"\u003eHistoric Audio from the Archives of Charles Ruas\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCC BY-NC-SA\u0026nbsp;Contact digitalarchives@queenslibrary.org for research and reproduction requests.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Queens Public Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Queens Public Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/010/original/Aviary_QPLlogo_192x192.png?1578574261","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/123/882/small/Profile1.jpg?1632490787","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Ruas-Charles-by-Atahualpa-Josselyn-03032020_(2).Mp3"]},"duration":3517.47319,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/123/882/small/Profile1.jpg?1632490787","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-queenslibrary.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/123/882/original/Ruas-Charles-by-Atahualpa-Josselyn-03032020_%282%29.Mp3?1632490683","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3517.47319,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Full Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Okay, now we're recording here. Cool. My name is Josselyn Atahualpa. I'm the program coordinator for Queens memory. I'm here today with Mr. Charles Ruas. Today is March 3rd--Tuesday, March 3rd. It's about 12:49. Mr. Charles Ruas. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: [Laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=28.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Um, so in the documents, you mentioned that your mom was one of the first, people to come to the U.S. To work for the UN here in New York. Uh, tell us more about that and I guess your roots here in Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=28.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Yeah. Yeah. Um, this is Charles Ruas. It's 2020, so I'm going back to 1946. We, at the end of the war, World War II, we, we were in China, Tianjin, China, and as Europeans, knowing that the war was ending and the communist revolution was going on, all of the colonies were being cleared. So we, as French citizens, were sent back to France, everyone was being cleared out of China. We arrived in France in October, 1946 and by happenstance and good luck, my mother met Madame de Vienne Blanc a Canadian who was trying to recruit people for the United nations. And when she met my mother and understood that she spoke French, German, Chinese, and English, she was immediately recruited. And, she was in Paris mainly because Paris was a refugee center and the-her-my mother's colleagues were French resistance fighters, white Russians, Eastern Europeans escaping, and all displaced people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=43.0,133.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: And my Madame de Vienne Blanc would recruit those with the background she could use for the UN. My mother was sent almost immediately to Eng-- to London, where she was given her instructions and a ticket on the Aquitania, which was a troop transport ship, but hadn't been a luxury liner, turned into a troop transport ship. And I guess the women were put in the officers, staff cabin and the men in the, uh, uh, sailors sort of, uh, bunker so that it was a transport ship. And the ticket was from South Hampton to Halifax because Halifax was the war time trajectory to the new world. And we assume it's because of the ice flows there weren't mines on that line. Uh, the sea lane wasn't mined. So then, my mother arrived in Halifax was sent to Montreal. She and her colleagues were sent to Montreal and sent by train to New York city, where they were put up, uh, various hotel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=133.0,214.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: She was put up at the hotel, New Yorker with all of her colleagues, and eventually it would be grouped into the French department. And, there, there were given orientation material about, uh, where there would be working, which is the Sperry Rand factory complex, at Lake Success. And they were assigned to little boarding houses and hotel in along Long Ssland. And she and her colleagues were placed in Lido Beach out a boarding house, I believe. My-- her story takes a turn where which sort of reveals to you the wartime attitude towards the UN staff. My mother on her checkup a few months later was discovered to have tuberculosis. And instead of --she was given a choice of going to Arizona, New Mexico with the tuber-- sanitariums where or the tuberculosis center on Parsons Boulevard. And of course she chose the one on Parsons Boulevard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=214.0,295.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Sorry to clarify the one on Parsons Boulevard near what intersection was it or area generally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=295.0,303.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: it's on Parsons Boulevard between Union Turnpike and Grand Central Park. And, uh, now I believe it's the Medical Center for Queens, the head office for the. And in the sanatorium on Parsons Boulevard, she was cured by a very rigid diet in those days, even though they had penicillin it wasn't available, the military had it, but it wasn't in the, in general use yet. And she spent a year being brought out every morning to lay in the sun and on a dairy diet. Uh, uh, and indeed she was cured after a year. Then she had a period of recovery and went back to work. And, uh, she spent a year sort of working to rebuild-- to build a home and Parkway village where she had an apartment so that, uh, my brothers and I who'd remained in France could come and join her. We joined her in 1950. During this time it should be noted that the UN not only put her on sick leave, but also, uh, continued her, uh, sick leave pay through this whole period","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=303.0,397.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: When you and your brothers arrived or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=397.0,399.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: No before, while we were in France. And, that sect leave, uh, was trade, took care of us with our guardians in France and so on. Uh, we arrived here in 1950 where my mother had prepared this charming apartment very America, and to my brothers and I, it came as a terrible shock. My older brother who had a clear memory, my older brother, Franklin, who must have been --in 1950 must have been-- I was 13. He must have been 17, was thrilled beyond belief to be reunited with his mother and to be in America. And so on. My younger brother and I were so happy inside, that's where, uh, we were not only, uh, uh, loved but children. Uh, you have to remember, this is after the war, after World War II, but, you know, we had our religious training, our schooling and everything. So when we came here, uh, it came as a, quite a shock to us, to my brother and I, and actually, uh, the American way of life struck us as so st--, bizarre and strange.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=399.0,495.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Uh, for example, meals in America are very sort of efficient too no? You know, whereas in France, we were used to set the table. You know, you set the table, you have the soup, you know, the lemon you have, does --everyone looks forward to dessert. Do you know what I mean? There was a whole complex of life that suddenly evaporated. And there we were in Parkway Village. To go back recently, I learned about the creation of Parkway village. I astounded to learn that Parkway Village was created by Robert Moses and all the Rockefellers and so on because delegates and staff from many countries could not find housing in New York. People would not rent to even delegates-- diplomatic Corps, which astounded me. I was sort of horrified to find that Levittown, which was financed by the government for veterans, even did not give mortgages to minority veterans, American veterans. I was amazed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=495.0,577.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: So United--so Parkway Village was created. I have to remind you though, why would you name this wonderful community designed like a British traditional British garden village housing complex. And why would you name it? Parkway Village? You know, it's like calling it I95. It's because Park-- Grand Central Parkway on either side had a space of about a lane and a half, almost two lanes that was planted like a park. It had the most beautiful, uh, amazing plantation, for example, it had oak trees and maple trees that turn colors in the fall under that were crab apples and dogwoods. And beneath that, were rododendras, azaelias, laurels and the fences on the outside were these huge blocks of wood, uh, that were painted brown, that was the fence of it. So indeed it was a real park and the village was named on one side of Parkway Village is Grand Central Parkway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=577.0,658.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: On the other side is Union Turnpike. Union Turnpike goes directly to Lake Success and the Sperry Rand building, but they had, the staff was grand central Parkway, as you know, goes to flushing Meadows where the general assembly was held, uh, in the old world's fair [unclear] the bottom road was a main street that goes to flushing and from main street with two streets, charter road named after the UN charter and village road. And then on the other, on the top was Parsons Boulevard and there. In my dissatisfaction on arriving in Parkway village and disorientation and sort of grumpy mood, I was walking around when by great good luck, I fell into the leader of the Cub scout troop. And there was apparently an-- already the beginning of communal structure, community structure. And I was immediately sort of enlisted into the Cub scout and my brothers were my older brother to join the boy Scouts. So there was a UN scout troops, which sort of gave me a context and a sense of belonging to my community. The delightful thing you'll appreciate is that Parkway village still existed among old farmland and empty lots and so on. And there was maybe on union turnpike, one or two blocks of stores only,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=658.0,774.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Uh, in those early days, 1950, my best friends were Peter and Mary Shieh. Their father also worked in the, uh, Secretariat, and they were Chinese to my hearts delight and they were also Catholic. And our favorite game was I would demonstrate the skill I learned as a cub scout, we would cross union turnpike and we would go to the mark to the market and buy shrimps and then run into the empty lots into which-- we considered forest and build a little fire and cook the shrimps, which we thought was the most delightful, delicious things in the universe. And so we became a very, very, very close friends, that way. What happened to Peter, my friendship with Peter and Mary Shieh is that when the school year started, they suddenly disappeared. And, uh, we all assumed that their parents had put them in Catholic schools.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=774.0,852.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Whereas all of us from Parkway Village went to PS 135 and you know, every morning we would line up, you'd see the straggling line of kids walking down to 135. Do you know where was that school [inaudible] um, and with, uh, where would it be down, Main Street?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=852.0,875.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Towards Flushing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=875.0,880.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Yes. No. Towards Jamaica. Yes. Uh, it was in the middle of a lovely residential area. What would that be? Kew Gardens or, and, uh, and the whole year what's amazing is that school had the whole UN sta-- and, you know, all the UN children of elementary school age. And I don't know how prepared they were, but anyway, they integrated us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=880.0,909.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: It wasn't like an intentional school for Parkway village. It was just the local school that,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=909.0,915.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: That, that was responsible for the UN children. Suddenly the UN school in those days was, uh, towards Parsons Boulevard. And it was just a kindergarten. And maybe at daycare, you would say you're not, but it still had not evolved yet. Although it was obviously, uh, in the process of being constructed and developed. Uh, in the group of children from both Scouts and from elementary school, my closest friends were either French or Chinese. And, uh, I would like here to--and as well as Americans, of course-- to make a distinction among the residents of, uh, Parkway village. There was, of course the ho-- the secretariat staff that was, you know, the workings of the whole organization, but there were also all the diplomats, uh, of course, all Chinese diplomats lived there and so on and so forth. But the great difference was that the diplomatic family were political appointees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=915.0,998.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Whereas the secretary or contract workers who, you know, who had permanent jobs and the diplomatic community, they were subject to all the vagaries of politics and so on. And, uh, the reason I stress this is my very closest friends were the Wei family. Uh, Dr. Wei represented China, Taiwan, China, in those days. And, and this family was like my family, there were six children. Uh, four girls and two boys and the youngest daughter and the youngest son were exactly one year older, one year younger than me. So I, you know, I was like the duckling that fit into the line and all the other children were at university. And, uh, the family lived in dread of Dr. Wei's being called back to Taiwan. And I never understood that perhaps my age or just ignorance. I should tell you thought Dr. Wei and Mrs. Wei, he had been the president of Nanjing university. She had been president of the girls college, in Nanjing. When the Japanese bombed Nanjing. And as you know, the great atrocity, they gathered the university and went to exile in the interior of China and lived in caves and s-- made the whole university survived the war. So to me, they were heroic figures. You know what I mean? Uh, and respected universally, you know, so I never understood why this fear of Taiwan. And of course, we now know in retrospect that Chiang Kai-shek, as he grew older went and, you know, would kill off all his colleagues and became murderous, uh, and it was unpredictable and so on and so forth. So he, Dr. Wei managed to become the person in charge of the headquart--, the delegation, that is the functioning of the delegation, as opposed to solely the political representative and sort of survived until Taiwan was like, you know, China join the UN, mainland China joined the UN.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=998.0,1164.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: At the same time to show you about the vagaries, my American friends, Eric and Carl van Tassel, therefore that finally suddenly vanish. And it was what, because of the McCarthy era. So on, so that, do you know what seems so, what, uh, the sort of ideal community was riddled with all these political, you know, it was not immune to the political tension of the outside world. The community itself, if it was built out of necessity because of prejudice in itself, it became sort of an- an ideal sort of integrated, uh, uh, Parkway village became an ideal integrated, uh, uh, international, uh, society. Um, and I wanted to tell you, for example, as we adapted to American life, we obviously had to abandon our, our culture, but the community had things you wouldn't believe, essentially you would say it's a, it's a village of refugees wouldn't you, because they were from all over the world uprooted and having to adapt very quickly. Obviously there was a great deal of thought and organizing, there was the Cub Scouts and the, uh, Boy Scouts. We had every year, an international festival where the children from every country had to go and sing and dance a native song do you now. And because of my background, for example, I'd have to go sing and dance a Chinese song, and then quickly change go and sang a French song after that. And we all had roles in that. And of course the whole community came, you know, for the festival. But more than that, in terms of the new way of life, for example, you had people from all over the world, you know, India, Pakistan, the middle east, Latin America, all of them. But for example, the community was so safe. All of us adopted Halloween. It was a major, major holiday. And so all children, you know, below-- under six would go around with their older siblings and all children older than six were safe to go run around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1164.0,1331.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: It was a harmonious community. I also wanted to tell you that in terms of the identity of the community, the boy Scouts, the parkway village was a garden village. As I told you on the English style on one end was a village green with a village green was a flagpole with a UN flag at the other end was another, uh, green, uh, circle where there was a giant Christmas tree in the village green with a flag pole every morning, the boy Scouts had a ceremony of raising the UN flag and at sunset they had a ceremony taking down the UN flag so that the community had this identity. And in terms of community day harmony at Christmas time, all the children went around singing, choral, choir, you know, Christmas carols and were caroling and everyone, you know, welcomed them. 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Um, do you think that played out in the community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1413.0,1438.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Uh, the thing is, as a child, people were aware, but I don't think there was a, uh, a class, uh, difference since, uh, that UN was coming into being, do you know it? So I don't think there was, uh, a class distinction. I think what you're speaking about that the class distinction probably became, uh, invisible, but definite when the building, the headquarter building in Manhattan, uh, came into service where then the, uh, diplomatic Corps then probably moved to Manhattan. Then, then you might have had a separate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1438.0,1487.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: That makes sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1487.0,1490.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: I hear the, now the staff is in Roosevelt online, uh, because it's right across from the U S and it has that same community feeling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1490.0,1506.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: One more question. Sorry. So you all were within Parkway village. Was there any, kind of going out of Parkway village to nearby communities? Cause I know you also mentioned Jamaica, high school. I don't know if you want to jump into that, but like how did, uh, Parkway village integrate itself into the larger Queens community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1506.0,1527.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Um, you, uh, you have to remember that the reason it was built was to provide housing for this international staff. So when I first arrived in 1950, there wasn't very much around us. Uh, there, uh, there was Flushing, which was a center and there was Jamaica, which was a major center, but there wasn't very much in between. It all became, uh, built up, uh, gradually, uh, uh, so there, there was empty lots right up to main street, do you know Grand Union and, you know, and took over, in terms of our participation, uh, Jamaica, both, uh, flushing had this major movie palace [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1527.0,1591.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: on Northern Boulevard. That big one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1591.0,1593.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Yeah. And of course that was a major destination on Saturday afternoons. Uh, and the same for Jamaica, the, that there were, there was the movie theater, the Palace, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1593.0,1607.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Oh, the Palace. Yeah. Where was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1607.0,1609.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: On Jamaica avenue? You know, there was this a here, beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1609.0,1613.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Do you know Jamaica and what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1613.0,1617.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: I can't remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1617.0,1617.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: I've heard of it before, but I also can't recall exactly where","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1617.0,1621.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: And, uh, and then, you should, uh, know that event also, there was the library on Parsons Boulevard. That was a really, uh, a major sort of Oasis for everybody. You know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1621.0,1638.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: How so?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1638.0,1640.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: The library, was very, very sort of concerned with getting you to read so that, uh, for children there were open shelves and all that, and also to get students to study and, uh, they were very, very helpful and, uh, uh, you know, and trying to make high school students to do their homework, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1640.0,1669.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: It's still the same today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1669.0,1671.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: you have the same problem, responsibilities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1671.0,1675.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: yup, yup teenagers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1675.0,1679.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Which leads us, I guess, to, so in terms of, uh, the zone division, uh, it turns out that Peter and Mary Shieh were--didn't vanished to a Catholic. So they were simply zoned to go to a school in the Flushing district, but we never knew, you know, we never, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1679.0,1704.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: So Parkway village as a whole, wasn't zoned to one area. It was split.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1704.0,1708.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Yeah, apparently there mus-, there must have been a dividing line in terms of high school, though. We were all sent to Jamaica high school, which must have had, uh, you know, told to provide for us. But this is post-war in Jamaica high school, was really overcrowded. And my freshman year, there were two sessions our morning session and an afternoon session. And that was freshman year, how we were introduced, uh, to high school and the studies. And then eventually everyone got, was integrated. You know, uh into one session for the UN children. I don't know if it was just for the UN, but they had honor classes, uh, and, uh, and the whole, a whole sections that were, you know, on a section where you had to really work, work hard. You know there to get in and to stay in. So I don't know if that still exists. So whether, uh, it would be a no-no, uh, these days. So in that sense, they took in my whole generation and Parkway village. And, uh, and I should tell you, you know, the student is, uh, where the parents were very, you know, you know, do your, do your work and do it thoroughly. So they, they thrived and did wonderfully well. And, uh, also, uh, the high school offered so many sort of activities and, uh, for, uh, students to develop their individual, uh, directions and so on, when I look back on it, I it's amazing to me, but in those days, people took it for granted. Do you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1708.0,1840.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: You mentioned that Jamaica high school had to integrate a bunch of students or like the UN students. Right. Um, do you feel like they were prepared? Like I'm just thinking, right. Like you have all these people from different parts of the world that are coming young people that might not all speak the same language. Do you feel like Jamaica high school was prepared in terms of doing that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1840.0,1858.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Um, to, to be, uh, frank about it, the United States was not prepared so that, uh, other languages were not, uh, do you know what I mean? You could study French and Spanish and so on, but maybe French, German, Spanish, German, uh, that was it, you know, whatever. So, they weren't one, the student had to adapt, uh, yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1858.0,1888.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: full immersion","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1888.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: yes full immersion adaptation and, and I guess what was very nice as, you know, they had classes and drawing, they had classes and typing, they had classes in driving, they had shop where you learned carpentry and, uh, so that there was a huge variety of, uh, activities and aside from all the varsity sports. So, uh, so, uh, it was extraordinary. I wanted to also, speak about some special people there, for example, in Jamaica high school, uh, there was, you know, an honor society and, uh, the honor society, like took in everyone, uh, like with an 85 average and above, I think, do you know? So that it was sort of, uh, inclusive if you could or encouraging people, you know, uh, through and among them, there were sort of like, we have wonderful teachers, also the characters who were, do, you know, we had one English teacher called Mrs. Young. Who was younger, that's her name and, and who would say, like, she would make us read a Robert Frost. And she would say before reading, this is so beautiful. I don't know if I can [unclear] rattle it off to know what I read. And it impressed us so much, you know, for those who were impressionable to that sort of thing, but I wanted to speak about two people who were very amazing. One English teacher called Mrs. Rose, who was like, uh, the director of the yearbook and maybe, uh, someone else was directing the newspaper, you know, that old topper, but she would take students, who she thought were talented, sort of under her wing. And she would even sort of invite them to her home, uh, on the weekend. Uh, she had children our age, you know, and, uh, for example, aside from me, she, uh, nor-- nurtured, George Vessey, the sports writer for the New York Times. And there were many other of our, from my class, like one young man who was the Ernest Hemingway of our class.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=1890.0,2049.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Of Jamaica High?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2049.0,2055.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: So there were people very special, but also I want to speak to that. The PTA, there was a one woman Mrs. Lewin. She had a son Larry Lewin, who was in a class above me and who was like a class star, you know, varsity head of the honor society, president, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2055.0,2077.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: the worst [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2077.0,2077.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Rverything, you know, yeah and she had a younger son Eddy Lewin who was also like that, you know, varsity president of a student body, but she herself would, uh, devoted to helping student. And I was one of the students she helped decide was devoted to, uh, Hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2077.0,2101.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: She was a teacher at the school PTA. Just a mother---","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2101.0,2105.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: The mother, the mother of two very accomplished students. And I was a nerd do know what I mean. I wasn't a varsity or a, you know what I mean? Uh, and she really actually pushed me through my college boards and my college application to Princeton and both her sons went to Princeton also. So there were sort of, uh, wonderful people, you know, sort of very engaged in education, not just classroom, but what it meant to us. So, uh, I have very fond memories of Jamaica.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2105.0,2148.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Do you want me to ask you some questions or do you want to keep, yeah. So, I guess what happened after that? Did you stay in, Queens, is there, uh, is there more to Charles Ruas history in Queens or did you branch out where, what happened after high school? You mentioned Princeton.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2148.0,2167.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Yes. Um, what happened uh, in [unclear], for example, my mother remained in Parkway Village. [Unclear] Once she was settled, she was settled there and she, you know, loved it. I knew everything about it, you know? And so, so far, in terms of, in terms of my life and I assume is we stayed in touch, uh, uh, my classmates and I, we stayed in touch, but I think like after the sophomore year, uh, we sort of all got caught up and, uh, you know, and sort of lost touch with one another.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2167.0,2219.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Sophomore year in college after that everyone kind of---","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2219.0,2222.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: yeah, yeah. You sort of lost touch because people are, you know, you had summer jobs and so on and so forth. Um, in terms of, uh, Queens, uh, history of the only thing I can tell you of great interest is, in my sophomore year I had a job, uh, in the mail room at the UN you know, a summer job. And there were other college kids from all over Queens who were working in the mail room. And one of my friends, he came from, what do you call it? The, housing community that was so biased against blacks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2222.0,2275.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: His father was a professor at Queens College, and he grew up in Levittown and so on, and his father started. And I'm trying to think, you know, is this '58 do you know '57 '58, uh, and started a movement, uh, within Levittown to admit black families, uh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2275.0,2307.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Was he a person of color or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2307.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: No no Well, he wasn't, he was, you know, you're regular straight American boy college boy do you know, but his father was a professor in Queens. I don't know of what, of engineering. I, you know, you wouldn't expect him, you know, not social science, but, uh, who became fervent. And I'm trying to remember when does the civil rights movement begin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2310.0,2338.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: late sixties?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2338.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: No, no that's when it surface. But when does it, when the Selma is what 50..?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2340.0,2346.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Summer 58?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2346.0,2347.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: So, so do you see what I mean? So there were ripples. Of consciousness and so on, but I think I was too ignorant to put it in the context, you know, in the larger context of what's happening in the country and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2347.0,2364.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Yeah. That's a really good example of like the political and the everyday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2364.0,2368.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Yes, yes. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2368.0,2372.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: So sorry, so just to orient us, I guess, within this timeline, you, this is late fifties, you went to, you graduated Jamaica high school, when?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2372.0,2380.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: In '56. Right. And I graduated Princeton in '60, and then from then on, you know, I'm often, or, you know, grad school and so on and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2380.0,2393.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: So, and then you don't come back to Queens for a while, or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2393.0,2396.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: No, not after, not after grad school. I caught her jo-- work marriage, blah, blah, blah. Um, at some point, I don't know what date, but then, uh, Parkway village at some point becomes cooperative. Is it a co-op or.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2396.0,2417.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2417.0,2417.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Or condo? Uh, but, uh, at some point, uh, the company or whatever changes completely and decides to sell ownership of these apartments as well, but my mother didn't want to buy. And, uh, so that she remained a renter until we gave up the apartment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2417.0,2450.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: So she never left Parkway village?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2450.0,2452.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: She never left Parkway village.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2452.0,2456.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: And, uh, and the you--, her job at the UN, she always claimed she only worked once in her life, was at the UN for like 40 years [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2456.0,2462.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: To clarify. So people would live in Parkway village, jump on the bus, or some sort of transportation to lake success for...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2462.0,2477.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Yes. Uh, I in the photos of, Lake Success of the Sperry Rand complex at Lake Success, there's a transportation hub. And, uh, I never knew that Union Turnpike goes straight up to Lake Success, Mary rent. So, uh, in the transportation hub, there were coaches buses. 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And, and then the other thing is there were, there were cars with drivers. There was a whole fleet of cars for drivers, for the staff, because if they worked late, they, then they took her car home and so on and so forth. And, uh, uh, so that there was this a transportation hub for the people. Uh, of course those who could drive, could go from flushing meadow via Grand central to, uh, to Sperry around complex. We have, uh, we did so much research, S P E R R Y R A N D","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2517.0,2574.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Speaker 3: To chime in. Can you just say your name? Sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2574.0,2579.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pareesa Pourian: This is Pareesa Pourian, Charles Rua's assistant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2579.0,2582.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Who's been here the whole time. We just forgot to mention that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2582.0,2592.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pareesa Pourian: I'm certain that's the spelling,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2592.0,2595.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: You know, but remember it has this strange, uh, it was a factory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2595.0,2603.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pareesa Pourian: Oh, Here it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2603.0,2608.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Sperry Rand, R a N D","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2608.0,2615.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pareesa Pourian: I think then it was referred to just as the Sperry corporation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2615.0,2620.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Uh, they made, uh, do you remember what they made? It would--it was an essential war component? Uh, so that it was a high, maximum security fac uh, uh, campus, uh, are you going to look it up? And, so it was Sperry corporation and then it became a Sperry Rand when it, you know, went back into business and so on and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2620.0,2653.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: So just for a time check, it's 1:30, and I know you have the appointment at 2:00 downstairs. Um, do you wanna wrap this up? Do we want to do a few more questions also?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2653.0,2665.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Yes let's do a few more questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2665.0,2666.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: It doesn't have to be--okay. It doesn't have to be specific to Queens, all of it. Right. If you want to talk more about your history or what you're doing now, what are your last, what would you,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2666.0,2678.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Let me give you, for example, I was going to speak about, the Wei family [paper shuffling] Do you, and, and their history because, the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2678.0,2702.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: The Wei family and they were the diplomats and the father had helped with Nanjing university","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2702.0,2709.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Land tank. Um, they, and, uh, as I told you, there were this large family, but all the children were in college. So it was sort of like a nuclear family I could join. And, uh, the, the reason I became aware of the background of the, of my friend's parents was that if we went to a public function or something like --whether in Parkway Village or in the UN, uh, staff or whatever, there would always be someone who would come up to a Dr. Wei and sort of come and pay their respects and so on and so forth, you know, and I was always, I don't know, we were always, even the children, we were sort of like, you're not-- here it goes again. Do you know what I meant? Um, we never understood, uh, the ramification or the back history, uh, that caused that. But when the, at one, some point I think, uh, maybe when the UN building, opened and so on, uh, they move from Parkway Village to College Point and they were the first Chinese family in Flushing. And, uh, and I sort of knew that because, uh, I would go take the bus to College Point, you know, down Main Street to College Point. Uh, and, and the neighbors were so aware of them and, you know, and sort of watch to make sure their lawns mowed and all that. Uh, so, uh, I mean, there were polite, but there weren't, you know, everyone's sort of in a standoff situation. And, uh, and of course we went to the movies every Saturday in Flushing, and now Flushing as a Chinese community. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2709.0,2841.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: College point, I think historically was very German. Yeah. During that time, can you spell the family's name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2841.0,2849.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Uh, yes. I'm going to give you a book about them. It's uh, Dr. Wei w E I, Dr. Wei, you know, and, uh, so that, uh, also being a Chinese, what was sort of wonderful was the, the adaptation so that the children had to really study and, uh, Donald went to Flushing High school because of the zoning in College Point, uh, Flushing high school. I was in Jamaica. Another friend had to go to Forest Hills high school because of that zoning, uh, around Kew Gardens, you know, and, uh, but, uh, there, uh, the daughter, Dorothy, they were horribly terribly worried about her because she was artistic-- art, artistic I'm going to be clear. So they got her a scholarship to Chapin. So that she had to take the bus every day had to take the bus to the subway to Manhattan. And so,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2849.0,2924.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Where is Chapin and Chapin high school, or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2924.0,2927.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Yeah here in upper east side do you know. So that's what bus, subway bus right now every day, twice a day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2927.0,2937.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: And she would come here by herself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2937.0,2939.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Yeah, Yeah, yeah. And, and was a top student, you know, but, but, uh, so that at the same time as this, you can see that the adaptation, uh, for all of us was through the educational system and the social fabric. Uh, whereas, uh, for example, uh, they kept Chinese tradition with their meals. Do you know, like they wanted to cook their meals and, uh, and ate a traditional Chinese meal, you know, with chopsticks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2939.0,2983.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: How did that play out? I mean, uh, all these different communities or, you know, people from different parts of the country coming to Parkway village, and if they wanted to have the food, what markets would they go to? How would they access the supplies and stuff and the ingredients?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=2983.0,3001.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: It was a no, as you're quite right. It was extremely sort of, uh, complicated because for them, they'd have to go to Chinatown, uh, once a week, like, so that he and Mr and Mrs. Wei, Dr Wei and Mrs. Wei, would have to go there on their way home or something and make the purchase. And also within the community Parkway Village, you know, there was all the sort of, uh, even at the festival, there were all these little differences of adjustment. For example, we all had a friend, a very lively young lady from Argentina, and she wore the, uh, Spanish blouse that was off the shoulder with ruffles. And this is 1952, and people's eyes would pop up and say, look, there goes Beatrice. You know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3001.0,3061.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: what's Beatrice, what's the reference to Beatrice?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3061.0,3065.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Fact that she was so, uh, you know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3065.0,3070.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pareesa Pourian: Well, that was her name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3070.0,3070.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Oh that was her name. Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3070.0,3073.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: She was being so provocative, how could her parents let her walk around? Do you know what I mean? There were all these little shadings of cultures and so on, but we didn't have a women wearing, uh, veils you know, even Pakistani did not wear veils in those days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3073.0,3097.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: It just blows my mind because I've only seen Queens. I moved here in like the late nineties. So I've only seen Queens as like very Latino or like very international already. So the thought of going to other places to go and buy stuff, is really interesting. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3097.0,3115.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: No, but you're also in a very, very, uh, upper middle class area,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3115.0,3121.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Lake Success. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3121.0,3125.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: And whereas, you know, so you know, what the geography has, so that, uh, Moses, when he planned Parkway village, even though it's a garden English garden village, as you see, it's sort of isolated from everything, even though it's bordered by major roads, but it's not either in Kew Gardens , or in Jamaica, or in Flushing do you know. No, but it's, uh, it was an integrated organic community that worked very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3125.0,3160.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: It's beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3160.0,3161.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: No, no, it is beautiful. For example, I'll show you the father, but the hea-- one of the heads Scouts was a Mr. Johnson, who was a veteran. And, uh, we, we didn't understand, nobody understood. I mean, we didn't even understand why mug-- people disappeared during the McCarthy era, but he was, uh, head of the security at Parkway Village. And also one of the head of the boy Scouts, one of the unit directors of the boy Scouts and would lead the flag raising on the flag. And, uh, and he, he, he was an African-American veteran do you know. And so, uh, it dawn, you know, dawns on me that he wanted to, you know, that he, that's why he lived in Parkway, Village next door, you know? Yeah. It's hard, isn't it, it's hard to understand people's lack of choices in life or being deprived of choices. And whenever we New Yorkers wouldn't dream of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3161.0,3245.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: I think what I've heard in the past is people's over whelmingness, or being overwhelmed by how many options there are in the United States. So it's like both ways, right? Any last few things that you would want to say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3245.0,3263.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: No, that I'm very, very, uh, glad that you doing this. And, uh, uh, and that you're, you know, so, so on top of preserving the memory of this, I wanted to ask you something, with the Queensborough hospital as now a general hospital, not a true parking [unclear], but, since my mother was with the UN and they took her in as a patient, and so on, at some point they asked my brother and another boy from the UN to act as a TB seal model. Do you know those stamps they've sold? Do they still have polio sales now? Oh, there's no polio left [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3263.0,3321.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: What they did was, uh, the tuberculosis stamp. Wasn't like, uh, uh, the Lorraine cross, you know, across with two bars. Okay. And that represented TB. And, uh, some, my brother and this, another young man from the UN were asked to be the boys were presenting TB seals. You know, uh, my brother did not have TB, but was put on the watch list, you know, but they monitored him every three months because of the one mother. So that the community, I guess, the social, [clears throat] excuse me, the social, uh, help available was very directly involved in the community. When you think that the elementary school, the high school had to have programs to suddenly take in all these students and the resulting problems. And one of the things that dawned on me was that Peter and Mary Shieh vanished from our company because their parents were being nice, [being] new to the United States. You know, didn't think they could go and protest and say, I want my children to grow up there. Do you know what I mean? Where, which people nowadays immediately do when I was served there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3321.0,3421.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: All right. We're good. Any last statements","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3421.0,3426.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Were there? Yes. That's part of the integration. Cool. Is there anything that stands out for you in terms of my narrative, in terms of the problems or th--,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3426.0,3441.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: No, it was helpful. Um, I always learned a lot with these interviews, but the main, period of time was the fifties, right? The fifties, the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3441.0,3451.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: 46 to 56. No 56.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3451.0,3457.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: Yeah. Right. And like the beginning stages of the UN and how it developed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3457.0,3462.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Yes. Yeah. And that's, when does the building come up and 50 the UN headquarters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3462.0,3470.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: in Manhattan or? I don't know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3470.0,3472.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: Yes in Manhattan","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3472.0,3476.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: I forgot. We have it down somewhere. It's like 52 or 3, whatever, but I wanted to ask you, two things. Oh, the other thing is the UN Scouts were the color guard for the cornerstone of the UN building.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3476.0,3497.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: What do you mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3497.0,3498.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Ruas: We all had to be at the laying of the cornerstone of the UN building. I'm the plump little boy holding the flag at the ceremony. But, anyway, so yes, that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3498.0,3517.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882/transcript/32447/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Josselyn Atahualpa: So I'm going to turn the recording off. Yeah. Okay. Let's see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50966/file/123882#t=3517.0,3517.47319"}]}]}]}