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So I'm going to start now. Do you agree to the terms and conditions outlined in the Queens Memory informed consent form and permission form?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=3.0,16.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Yes, I do. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=16.0,18.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: And this is Heejung Cho with Lisa Wade. We are recording this interview February 27th for the Queens Memory Project. So could you say your full name and spell it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=18.0,32.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Yes. Lisa D. Wade, L I S A D as in David, W A D E.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=32.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Thank you so much. So I'm going to ask 10, 10 questions. Okay. First one, what type of art do you create?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=41.0,52.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Woo. You know, that's hard to define. I started out with photography and then I'm really a painter, I believe, but I'm kind of chicken because my drawings are not that good. So I do abstract painting. I do collages, I write poetry, so I've just discovered that all I am is an artist. I've been a lot of things in my life, but I'm proud to say I'm an artist that can just say it second to being a mom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=52.0,88.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Oh yeah. I'm actually going to, so, so wait, so then you'll start from the photography, but your a medi, I mean, except the poetry. So the more like a abstraction. So with the colors,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=88.0,101.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Yes. Yes. And I'm having a lot of fun with paint. I am. What","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=101.0,108.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: What kind of paint? Is it acrylic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=108.0,111.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Right now is acrylic and it's pastels. And, , I have it all upstairs in the attic. I've just been accumulating different things and I'm just having fun, especially with collages. Romeo Bearden is my inspiration for collage ever since I was, I think in my teens, when I saw his work, I've been amazed. So yes. And Betty Saar, she definitely influences me a lot because now I'm starting to put things together, found objects. So it's a way to express my hoarding. Maybe. I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=111.0,149.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: I can not wait to see them too. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=149.0,152.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: I can't. I have to do some of the things I find as I collect, I said, Oh, this will be good in this. And actually at the York gallery, I did do my first assemblage piece and his, with a piece of metal I found on the street and it's very, very nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=152.0,168.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: The metal on the canvas then, or we'll have a more like a different thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=168.0,173.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: You want to see it? Yeah. Yeah. That'd be kind of handy. Hold on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=173.0,195.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: I just picked up the things from your gallery. Cause the thing ended.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=195.0,201.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"New Speaker: Oh wow. There's a light gut.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=201.0,205.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Not really it is too dark. Oh yeah. Yeah. I see more now. Okay. So centerpiece is like metal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=205.0,212.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Yeah. It's a piece of metal and I painted black. This is a photograph. This is a collage. No, no. This is the quilt that I photographed and took a picture of this is from a magazine, a paper \"Dream deferred, Dream denied\". And this is about George Floyd black lives matter, and this says the blue line around what would be his neck 8:46, is the time it took for them to die. And the reason I have the African portion here is because we are of African descent. And I just think about, as his life was squeezed out, this was his Africanness coming out. So this is my first time of putting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=212.0,257.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: What about the background? The red and the blood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=257.0,262.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: It's a photograph. It was something I took up something else and I didn't use it. I think this was a tree trunk. I like playing with nature and altering it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=262.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: So it looks like a charcoal. So I'm like a burned up like a trees in trunks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=270.0,276.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: It looks like that, right. It was just a tree, the bark of a tree I mean, and then I burnt this. Langston Hughes, wrote a poem about dream deferred. And I found this article talks about dream denied. And then I burnt it because that's how I felt about the whole thing. He didn't have the opportunity. It's called leave my body alone. This is my first time playing around with assemblage. I'm open to everything at this point with COVID time and yeah, black lives matter times. And you know I'm a child of the 60's so the black Panthers were important to me. Oh no. The 60 so seventies, they were really very powerful. Yeah. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=276.0,327.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Okay. So that as artists. Oh, what inspired you, you make your art generally like every day?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=327.0,339.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: You know what, it's hard to say because when I'm walking with my camera, I don't quite know until I start looking, I don't have a plan always. I just pick, I just sort of look at things that intrigued me, trees. I don't know what it is about trees. They're shapes. They come off with feminine and masculine energy for me. And I like taking curves. You know, that's kind of what I'm looking at now. Last year COVID obviously was major because I lost a family member. So one of the pictures I did had her in mind, she loved blue. So I did an abstract painting with lots of blues and lots of reds for COVID. So - that, but it's, I just like playing, I don't quite know what comes up, but what I've realized, and this is something and I, and I call it, , the beneath, the beneath in, in my artwork is I think I'm doing one thing, but obviously spiritually, I'm doing something else because when I step back and look at it, I'm like, Oh, I didn't know that was there. I start to see a lot of things under the peak that I didn't consciously know I was doing. So I find that really exciting for me. I call it, beneath the beneath.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=339.0,417.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: I love that beneath by the beneath[unclear]. This is a good the text though. I like those that have a [unclear]. And then I think you were looking for something like a ground and center, the bottom of under the ground and tree trunk. Cause something that's kind of having more connections. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=417.0,437.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: There's always this under thing of what you think you're doing. There's a thing underneath. And I think I'm seeing that a lot in my work. That's what I'm saying. That's right. The trees is one thing. Yeah. But they're always the under part of like, I think being an artist is a spiritual practice. I think you're making concrete. What happens out there somewhere where you are when you're connecting with the universe and sometimes you don't see everything until you're finished with your piece and then you step back. Even days later you go, Oh, I didn't realize yes, that is there. You know, it's like a surprise. It's like a gift. It's like a little someone held back from Christmas and then give you right away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=437.0,481.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: I totally understand. Yeah. I think it has happened to me all the time too. I don't know what I'm doing when I do, but actually at the end, the later on I can actually find myself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=481.0,494.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Yes, totally. Oh, so already then number three. So then, Oh, your practice is related to the neighborhood of a Southeastern Queens? How what kind of work or installation and any activity, if you're related to the Southeast Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=494.0,513.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: When I was being purely a photographer, I would take pictures of the neighborhood. Some of the neighborhoods characters who've been here for years. I have a couple of pictures of them. I want to hold on to things so that they're left for other people to see, like there was a man that used to make leather goods on Merrick Boulevard. I was able to capture his picture. He'd been there since I was in high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=513.0,539.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=539.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: And his little spot was between two buildings. And now that, that, that, that was removed. He's gone. I don't know if he's still with us. He was in his nineties. And, I just like to preserving, maybe I'm preserving my own memories. So this neighborhood as Lake park is full of memories. It's full of history so yes, that would be something else I want to think about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=540.0,568.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: So really Southeast Queens to me, because I live in the neighborhood I live in, which is a incubator for artists and creatives as musicians, artists and writers have lived here. I feel like I have an obligation to do my part because I'm in the nest of where these people live. Like James Brown, Lena Horne, all these famous black people lived here. So it's like, I don't have a choice, but to create, so it may not be directly Southeast Queens per se, but it's because I live in the nest of Southeast Queens. I'm able to also produce what I should produce because I have to honor my ancestors so to speak. Okay. Did that answer it? Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=568.0,615.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Yes! And then I would actually add one more question about you were saying that you want to actually work with the your memory - the very particular person you have a memory with or something like that. The guy and the place too. Do you have any like photo of him or the location too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=615.0,638.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: I have a picture of the storefront where he operated him sitting in front of it, the sign is gone, everything is gone now. It's like, yeah, I did a picture of that. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=638.0,650.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Oh, can I--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=650.0,652.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: And I exhibited at Queens Library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=652.0,653.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Oh, could I have that picture too? I want to work with that too. I mean, if you don't mind, I'm going to work with you too-- like the person you just described. And then I want to actually visit that the location and the changes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=653.0,666.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: It's just an empty little spot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=666.0,669.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: But the emptiness and a long time ago, I have a [unclear]. Okay. Yeah. Oh, that'd be wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=669.0,678.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Now I can't remember his name and I'm ashamed to say, but I'll know it I'll probably know it when I'm off the phone with you. He made leather goods and was a black cowboy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=678.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Okay yes. And then what's the best part, the favorite part of living in the Southeast of Queens. And when you live in New York, how many years do you live in there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=692.0,706.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: When I was 11, So my story is a story of the great migration. And as far as I was concerned at that time, this place was like alien to me because it was so different from the South. So I guess I could feel like someone who had immigrated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=706.0,728.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: So where are you from? Like how [crosstalk].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=728.0,729.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Nashville, Tennessee.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=729.0,734.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: And then you felt like that's very alien. Do you think there are some differences back then and now is a really different, or are you just a feeling differently?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=734.0,744.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: What do you mean? Tell me","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=744.0,745.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Like the, the neighbor neighborhood changed a lot though. That's all, you witnessed all the changes of a development, or at the time you just came here for some, that's why you actually felt alienation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=745.0,758.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: I think it's because at 11 I left family and the familiar came to the unfamiliar and Northern and Southern people have a different way of coexisting. And I was accustomed to knowing everybody in my neighborhood going in and out of their homes, speaking to people on the street, that's not a New York thing. You say, hi, as you pass someone, you invite people on your porch. You just do these things that were very natural. That became very awkward and uncomfortable. And I was warned not to do because New York was a dangerous place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=758.0,803.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Yes it is. Actually, I try to actually get to know people in Jamaica now I'm living in Brooklyn. So I only, I know is Brooklyn neighborhood is, it's a small area, 10, 20 blocks on me. So that's, I felt like very comfortable with, so when I actually go to the Jamaica Avenue, the street, people, like I try to say hi, then, you know, I know the New York city is people not doing so, but I try to, you know, the, ask us the question too, but the people like very cold. And and as in my face too, and I didn't see many Asian in the neighborhood, you know, like the business. So then, yeah, I felt like I'm so alienated, but that's a part of a New York city, but you feel different now. Right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=803.0,856.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: You know, I, I think for a lot, for many years, I longed for the Southern way. So maybe I got here at 11. I left again, maybe 15 years later and went back South. I went to, I didn't go to my home. I went to Georgia and I got what I wanted. I got the feeling of family and hello, when you enter a store, hi, how you doing? Probably owners, you know, can I, you know, it, wasn't an intimidating situation where, you know, but was like, welcome. You know, I think what I had most trouble dealing with is that people in the South are very chatty. So you call on a business call and they'll say, Hey, how are you dealing with, I want to get to what I have to get to and get off the phone. That's a Northern thing, but they chit chat, how's the weather.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=856.0,910.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Is it hot down there? I'm like, I don't want to talk about that. I want you to know this thing on my electric bill. Okay. Just give me a minute and this friendly and polite, and the fact that you can park. And own my own home, I was in a really good neighborhood, with good schools. This is why I went there. And that's, that's what I wanted. But after a while, it began to bore me. I kind of missed that edgy quality. And when my mom asked me to come back, cause she's gotten older and, and I wanted to keep our home because I said, okay, I'll come back. And you know, I came back to dirt, poor parking rudeness, , good food, crowd, everything. And I was happy. It took some adjusting but - but I already knew how it was, you know, it wasn't like it's brand new. It was muscle memory, like memory. Yeah. I can't talk to her next to me sitting at the train station. I did that in the beginning, waiting for Tre. Hey God. No. Oh my God. Where - I'm not in Georgia, I'm in Brooklyn on a train, just because we share a bench. Does that mean we share anything else? No, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=910.0,1002.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: You know, our distance is so close each other, but not, not sharing at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1002.0,1006.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Nothing. Don't talk to me because you're crazy. Or you want something from me or it's gonna be a threatening situation. It's it's I love that though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1006.0,1018.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: I love it too. I mean, I could, I share my story later too, but I came from Korea. Yeah. I came from Korea by myself before the school. So now I've been here for 17 years and I have a son too. So I love the New York city, but you didn't understand like how much? I didn't like the New York city. Like when I came here the first two years, was it so bad? And I felt so like, everybody's so aggressive and fast, you know? But now I think my friends that came just to visit and I'm like, not this year, but he always said, New York City, it's a weird kindness. So then like she was in the subway, so then like everybody just like, like grumpy and frowning and you know, just like not talking at all, but whenever she had some hard time to holding the baby and then the heavy bag, and then she just let go, Oh no, couldn't hold a pole. So then somebody asked, I mean, nobody asked anything, but then a guy pulled my for my arm. So there's like a really frown and just hold my arms, you know, like, so then I think that kind and you see that people see each other, but just like a health thing, some different way than others. Like, you know, like polite, you know, friendly, no smiles, no smile. No, but I love it. I love it now. And very get used to it. So I hear that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1018.0,1102.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: So stimulating rudeness, that's fertile ground for creativity. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1102.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Okay. That's so funny. So about the history of your family, so can you share more about your great parents and your parents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1110.0,1122.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Okay. My parents are Southern South Carolina and Tennessee parents the same because they weren't from the same. They didn't move. I still have family in Tennessee and no family in South Carolina because they aged out, , meaning they passed on. So yeah, everybody, the South Carolinians left because they could pass for white. They wanted out, they left some of them. I know. I'll never know. They just, they didn't look back. The Tennessee family, which is my dad's family, they were, what kind of work did they do? I just think they were just regular people. They weren't farmers per se a lot of people in the South were farmers. I don't think they owned land or did they might've done some [unclear], but I don't think I'm not sure, quite sure about that because my great grandmother raised me. So I do have the, her background.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1122.0,1193.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: She worked as a domestic. She didn't finish school because she had to work. I don't know what that work was. She never told me. She also made sure that she did not teach me how to cook because she didn't want me working for white folks that was explicitly said in the house. My father had gone back to school. He was in New York. He was adopted already, but he got, he wanted to become a specialist. So he'd moved away for like six years. So I'm age six, five living with her and my grandfather who I never knew because he was positioned in the back room and all he did was cut out pictures for scrapbooks, little did I know, did I know that he was sitting there chronicling black history? He had, I mean, ceiling high scrapbooks of black information that he'd cut out of black newspapers, everything he said, when he retired, I learned later from the post office that he was going to write a book. So he was gathering all of his materials. Unfortunately he became - he had dementia and we never got past it. I have about 20 of those scrapbooks left in varying levels of decay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1193.0,1266.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: You still have them? Yes. Destroyed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1266.0,1271.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: They weren't, they weren't loved by other people. So they were left in places where they got damp and stuff like that. So I rescued his work. The, if you were, I don't know if you call at the project process to the project, I'm not sure. My work looks like clippings of newspaper, his clippings of his scrapbooks. I took photocopies of them and I put it in my sketch. But because that's the project I'm going to do next. Take the headlines.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1271.0,1301.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Yeah. From your great, father's scrapbook or your grandfather?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1301.0,1308.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: From my grandfather's scrapbooks scrapbooking. He chronicled all these newspapers, all these magazines on black life and black history. He cut them out. But he didn't when I took it to the Schomburg, they told me that if I could find the dates on these docents, it would be great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1308.0,1326.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Awesome. There's no dates. Some of them, he cut the date off","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1326.0,1332.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: And, and I didn't know what to do. So I spoke with Margaret. She's a director at your gallery. You suggested why don't you just do headlines? The headlines are with that. And I said, because the arts, the headlines are compelling. So you see that in my sketchbook at J Cal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1332.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Oh yeah. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1350.0,1353.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Yeah. You'll see them. You'll see Jim Crow, you see all kinds of words there on the two pages. Yeah. That's my schedule because that's my next project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1353.0,1364.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Okay, awesome. Yeah I want to see the actual, you were the grandfather's a scrapbook too, and then you, they're going to be a really beautiful treasure. Actually. You can use as a collage and you know, like, , Oh my God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1364.0,1379.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: That's what I'm thinking of. I'm going to photograph because I want to, like I said, I wished that I could give that to the, to a muse, but because it's not dated and some of the pages are starting to get a little moldy, so I air them all out. But, I treasure them so much because this is a good grandfather. I never knew him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1379.0,1402.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: But being the dynamic in our household, he was always left alone to his books. That's what my great-grandmother told me that she was, that was her son-in-law because she didn't understand what he was doing. And he was very quiet Along. So weekends,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1402.0,1416.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: He was scrapbooking, but I never knew cause I was discouraged to go talk to him, look what I got. Look what I missed out on. When we came up at 11, he came with us and all of those scrapbooks, cause that was my dad's dad. And he, I began to learn what he was doing. So that was good. How are we doing for time? You're doing all right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1416.0,1439.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Oh, I'm good. Actually, the, if it's happened, like maybe the 40 minute zoom call going to cut it off, maybe sometime happen, then just come back in the same idea. Okay. Oh, that's a free account, you know? Oh yes. It'd be a good, so like, yeah. I cannot wait to see your, the grandfather. I think he's somebody that you can find somebody who's really working with together to docent that really professionally and then maybe saving the museum something. Yeah. They're going to be big. He was a artist you didn't know, you know, back then. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1439.0,1474.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: He was really, he was an artist, a writer because he started writing down. But all he did was collected material. He got the raw material, put it all together for himself to go back to so he could write his book about black history and why he wants to do that. I have no idea what drove him. Cause he was, I guess he was, I guess he was about 68. I don't know how old he could be. Probably be in his nineties now. Now he would be older. Cause he's my dad's dad. So he would be in his hundreds. So I have to figure out where, where that placed him in terms of history, to why black history of all things in a way, because given the time, how did he get to his first book? How did he, or did you just pick it up along the way? Because he was segregation all the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1474.0,1524.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Right? Right. So then yeah, maybe the find them. Maybe they can have some ears, you know, and then you can find a date, but maybe the years, you know, by the section, you know, by the books maybe. Yeah. That's a really treasure. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1524.0,1540.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: It's a treasure for me. I I'm just glad I saved what I saved","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1540.0,1546.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: You know, it's sometimes gets threatened, but it's not going anywhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1546.0,1551.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Yeah. So like that, those are your personal or family history. Those are faculty, you are practice to death. That's my next question where you already know the answer. So you're going to have a continuing in, on the docenting, you know, and then making, creating your own art based on your back then, like your family histories. And so it's kind, yeah, that's the beauty. So what's the next you want to ask, you want to answer about that? Your plan for the next one? Like, , you already told me about that, your project about collage and this docentation, but other than that you have, or some other, a project coming up more like,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1551.0,1593.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Do you actually mean a place for just working on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1593.0,1596.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Just working on that installation or like project basis or related to the, you know, the other member of Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1596.0,1604.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: No, I finished the last two things were the Queens, the process of the project and your gallery right now. I, , I need to organize myself my gap, what I can't work in my chaos anymore. So I've got to fix that. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1604.0,1623.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: We need to fix that. What do you mean? Like a more categorized","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1623.0,1627.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: This, , you know, I think COVID has really made, let's talk about COVID has made my habit of collecting even more chaotic. Sometimes I just don't feel like doing anything, but I still call it. I don't organize my work. That's what I call the chaos. It's not organized. It's like, I can't find this and I don't know where this is. I need to put my work online in a way that I can keep up with it. Right. There's that chaos. And, and you know, there's a lot of stuff going on in this room and this isn't my main space. I'm really in the attic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1627.0,1663.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: I see your studio. Is it your studio? You're working there too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1663.0,1670.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: I'd like to have one place, but I just, I just have so much that needs to be, I'm not organizing. I don't have that organizing trait and I make jewelry. So I have too many things. Mom says I have too much stuff. I'm don't need to pick one, but I can't because I think they're all related.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1670.0,1691.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: I hear that. That's me. And I did some ceramics. I have, I created, Oh my gosh. Yeah. I think that's a,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1691.0,1704.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Because I'm like a pressure cooker and you lift lifted up. Yeah. I think I'm exploding. Cause I've held myself in for so many years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1704.0,1713.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: I think that's it from your, like a lot of energy. I think it's adaptive. Beautiful too. But you maybe just need a, more like a body of a work to separation. So that's it. So I think that you can manage your whole thing at the same time. Maybe I can't do it. I'm actually, you know, I'm still raising my son too. And then I only have like two jobs. It's actually overwhelmed my life so much. Like a mom and artists at that. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1713.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: I didn't start. See, I should have, I'm starting late in life. I'm 65. So that's when I'm, I'm in, I'm getting a year. But all those years I was raising a son. I was working as a speech therapist. I was indulging my likes, but I didn't make time because I was afraid of it. I had, what do you call that syndrome where you don't think you're good enough imposter syndrome? You know, I bought a really nice digital camera and didn't open it for a year because I was afraid because I've technology afraid. Cause I had manual cameras before and once I opened it, it was like, wow, this isn't so hard. It's just, that's the way I approach my work. Like tight-fisted first instead of open, once I get into it, I'm gone. Yeah. Well initially there's that, that stbled in and then I will be so happy when I can just walk into my, into my art, run into it. I'm getting there, but I've certainly hobbled myself into it and it's always there waiting and loving. It's not giving me anything. It's just me going upstairs. I get stuck on the stairs. But once I get to the space, yeah, I'm ready.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1740.0,1823.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: I got to keep working on myself with that because you know, you're told that art is not going to sustain you. Art is not going to pay the bills. Art is all of that. And you know, somewhere around, I hear, even though I'm not depending on it, like I would have been 30 years ago. I'm still depending on it because I need it for self-fulfillment because I've been locked in. I've been so one-sided all my life because I didn't have it that I felt like I was tilted and walking kind of sideways. So now that I've gotten my art, I feel like I'm more upright and balanced because this is what I do. I'm left-handed I can use that side of the brain all the time. Even at work, I was always so creative as a speaker, I get bored easily. And I created these little video views of vignettes to get my patients, to do what I wanted to do. I had little art classes. I had little cooking classes with them to help them with their stroke and their talking. But I've made everything fun because I needed it. I didn't sit on, you know, a lot of people just drill, drill, drill, but I may think conversational. I made things really interesting. And even though I didn't like it per se, I was good at it. You know what I mean? Everyone tells me how great I was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1823.0,1898.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Who, what kind of artists are gonna say? They go, I'm done. I made them, my work is a masterpiece. I think it's, they are not happy with the piece all the time. That's why I said that the energy go to the next one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1898.0,1910.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: That's what it is. One of my artists has told me, don't go back and fix anything, go to the next thing because your going to get stuck there. And I was going to take the work from the the gallery and say, you know what? I can improve that. No, she said, Nope, go ahead. Keep moving ahead. Because you'll always be able to tinker tinker to I in photography. I never knew when to stop editing so much so that I changed the piece so much. I didn't recognize it. I had to go back to the original. What is, what is this I got here. So yes, you have to know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1910.0,1943.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Right? Don't stop. Don't stop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1943.0,1946.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: No, no, just stop a piece and leave it because it's done now. It's like, I want to finish the piece. I'm not trying to perfect it. I want to finish it. I want to complete it and leave it and goes to the next thing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1946.0,1960.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: That takes all the pressure off me now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1960.0,1965.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Okay. So the last two question only. So about a COVID-19. So how do you feel about the COVID-19 is, how has it affected are your art-making and personal?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1965.0,1979.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: You know, the first year I adjust it, I'm having more issue with the second go round with the 2021 part of isolation because in 2022, in 2020, I said, Oh, I can do all the things I've meant to do. Oh, I can, Oh God, I can do this. I can read these books. I can watch these movies. So that sustain me for a while. Unfortunately, well also I had death because of COVID. So I had a lot of feelings, so my work was darker, you know, more somber or moody, more tearful. So now, the work coming, it's going to be more excited because I can't stay there. I have to bring joy. I have to see light on 2021 is going to be light. Even if it looks like 2020, it's going to be light, light and energy. Yeah. Did that answer it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=1979.0,2038.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Yeah. Yeah. Totally. But I'm so sorry to your loss you know, is it your close member of a family?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2038.0,2043.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: First cousin. She was young. She was 50.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2043.0,2047.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Wow. So young. Yeah. So then like how, I mean the, what about the rhino still? Like you're not going to outside, , or like you don't have any fear to meet in person or how did like you more getting out? You know, now it's actually people are getting it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2047.0,2062.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Well, I feel much better now than my mom. Who's 94 has the vaccine. The first you'll have the second. Now I can go out. Okay. Because I'm not as worried about what I bring back to her. I'm not opting for the vaccine right now. , but I am going to a gallery exhibit to see, what's her name? Oh, the only. This is always, forget names. Hower[phoe Deena? How are Dina something I'm going to see her work? , Sunday at a gallery, I went to see Betty SARS exhibit at the Morgan library. See that sustains me. I get inspiration looking at other people's work. One thing I did buy, I kind of, I bought so many pick photo books and art books from Amazon last year because I couldn't go. I also went to a lot of classes, online tours of muses and that kind of thing, because I need it. I needed to see work and I wasn't able to go to any because I love galleries. I love exhibits. So I needed to feed my soul. And , so yeah, I spent a lot of time reading and , I have a really good friend. She's a ceramicist sauna. She amazing. He's my inspiration too. So yes, that's what I'm doing. And that's why my work was going to shift.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2062.0,2147.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Yeah. Sounds like a very like positive and, you know, try to come out like a, like a long, you know, some tunnel something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2147.0,2156.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: So yeah. I want to come to the light.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2156.0,2158.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was very dark. Yeah. So more people are still in the dark, but I think it's people having hope now. And also, I totally agree with you that the artists actually giving a lot of a different part of, , you know, directions. So, so like relieving our, you know, some darkness of depression on me. So yes. Yes. When I went to the, , muse recently MoMA and I went to the Chelsea gallery just to see the very major gallery to show the, it was , I didn't know how much I really loved being in the art exhibition all the times. I wouldn't catch up in all the times. I felt always guilty. And then, you know, so, you know, like not happy about that, but, , I did, , see the exhibition in person for a long time and then got into the space in art. That's a so different. And so before that, yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2158.0,2221.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Like I've found my people again. It's like, Oh my God, where have you been my family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2221.0,2228.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Artists are family. I remember I went to an exhibit exhibit in Philadelphia and I, I was always looking for my tribe. And when I was in this room full of photographers, I said, Oh my God, he's my people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2228.0,2245.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: Oh my Life. It's my tribe, my tribe. And I just, I tried to pretend I was academic almost to the point of losing my brains over it. You know what I mean? I felt sad. I didn't know. And people will look at me and say, are you a writer? Are you an artist? I'm thinking, no. Why do you think that? But I was giving it off, even though I wasn't doing it, actually probably the way of dressed and wore my hair. They said, you have to be an artist. I said, Oh no,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2245.0,2279.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: People notice that. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2279.0,2282.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lisa Wade: You're so creative. I am, it's showing it. I think it's like a leak I'm leaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2282.0,2287.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240/transcript/32119/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Heejung Cho: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Why am I hiding myself? Yeah. Okay. I think we actually went through the 10 questions, so I'm so happy actually talking with you. So like, I mean, I want to ask them more and more, but I'm going to stop the recording from now. Okay. And then we can chat a little bit more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50507/file/123240#t=2287.0,2308.928"}]}]}]}