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She describes her education experiences – first at PS 164 an elementary school in Kew Gardens Hills, where her love for history started, Parsons Junior High which was a very progressive school for this time in the late 1950’s, then to Forest Hills High School where she was on the school paper (Simon and Garfunkel were also alums), and finally on to Vassar and then to Columbia where she got her Masters in History. Barbara goes on to lists the many famous people who she went to school with or are from Kew Gardens Hills or Forest Hills.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eBarbara Joel also talks about the changes in the neighborhood in the 70 years she has lived in Kew Gardens Hills. She talks about how it was a mix of primarily conservative Jewish, Catholic, and Protestants, and lists some houses of worship. 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She describes her education experiences \u0026ndash; first at PS 164 an elementary school in Kew Gardens Hills, where her love for history started, Parsons Junior High which was a very progressive school for this time in the late 1950\u0026rsquo;s, then to Forest Hills High School where she was on the school paper (Simon and Garfunkel were also alums), and finally on to Vassar and then to Columbia where she got her Masters in History. Barbara goes on to lists the many famous people who she went to school with or are from Kew Gardens Hills or Forest Hills.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eBarbara Joel also talks about the changes in the neighborhood in the 70 years she has lived in Kew Gardens Hills. She talks about how it was a mix of primarily conservative Jewish, Catholic, and Protestants, and lists some houses of worship. 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Um, Barbara?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=0.0,5.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: I was never married. No.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=5.0,10.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Do you have any siblings?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=10.0,11.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: No. I was an only child.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=11.0,15.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Um, all right, so we're gonna move on. Um, let's see, place, uh, list any communities where you have lived. Um, if you--\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=15.0,25.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: And my father's name was Martin Joel, M a R T I N, Martin Joel. My mother was Charlotte Joel. My father was Martin Joel.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=25.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNew Speaker: Okay. Yeah, we don't. Um, if you don't want to share, that's totally fine. We'll move on to the next question, um, so please list the communities where you lived and the dates that you have lived there. For example, if you lived at Flushing from 1960 to 19--\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=35.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Yes, I was originally born in the Bronx. I lived, I lived in the Bronx and then we moved to Kew Gardens Hills when I was about six or seven years old, around 1950-51. We moved to Kew Gardens Hills.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=50.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Ok Um, do you remember your former address from the Bronx?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=72.0,75.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: I don't want to give it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=75.0,77.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNew Speaker: Oh, okay. No problem.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=77.0,79.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: All right. Let's see, uh, religious affiliation.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=79.0,82.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: I am Jewish.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=82.0,85.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Elementary school?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=85.0,88.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: I went to PS 164 here in Kew Gardens Hills from the second grade on, I went to PS 106 in the Bronx from, uh, from, well, for, till the second grade where I came to Kew Gardens Hills and was in the second grade class with Mrs. I think her first name was Sophie Bourbon at PS 164.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=88.0,116.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: And that's pretty much throughout your whole, um, you know...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=116.0,119.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Yes. And right. And from a PS 164, I went to Parsons Junior High, which is hear in Kew Gardens Hills. And then I went to Forest Hills High School and then I went to Vassar College and then I got took a Master's at Columbia.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=119.0,138.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh, wow. What did you major in?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=138.0,141.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Uh, I majored in history.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=141.0,142.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh, in history. Oh, so you see you, you sit well on\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=142.0,145.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: This project\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=145.0,148.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: And you know what, it's very fortunate that I have you, because this is all history so it's all being, you know. Um, let's see. Did you, um, were you a part of clubs or any clubs?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=148.0,161.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: I was part of, I believe me, I was very active, um, in, in Parsons is in, um, first of all, I think it's very interesting to note that in elementary school here in PS 164, our principal was David Carrow and loved American history. So, uh, at our weekly assembly programs who we'd see films on, um, we'd have an assembly program once a week - we had to wear white skirts, I mean, white blouses and skirts. And, uh, of course, if you were a girl scout, you were exempt. And, um, we would have programs on American history. He would show films like the ride of Paul Revere and the signing of the constitution. And he would give us excerpts in our classes from, for instance, the declaration of independence, uh, from, uh, the Gettysburg address, which we had to memorize even the first 10, the bill of rights of the constitution. And from the fourth grade to the sixth grade, we would get tests, memorizing. These things we'd have vocabulary and everything from them. He was very interested in teaching us American history. In addition, of course, to all our other courses or other subjects I should say, yeah,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=161.0,246.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh, it's a memorize. The Gettysburg address is quite...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=246.0,250.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Four score and seven years ago, our fathers said fourth on this nat... - Oh four score and seven years, four score and seven years ago, our fathers set forth on this nation, uh, whenever a new nation conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=250.0,269.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh, wow.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=269.0,271.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: That's all I remember. And of course the bill of rights with freedom of speech and everything, and, um, uh, the declaration of independence, the preamble to the constitution: We the People of the United States in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish this constitution for the United States of America. I still remember it. That's how, that's, how it was drummed into our heads. Things like can get he's all. And Patrick Henry give me Liberty or give me death his speech, all the famous speeches from American history. And we'd see the films and addition in, in, in our schools, they used to show puppet shows. We have like brotherhood week where we would do posters and there would be like a competition who did the nicest poster for brotherhood week showing, you know, all races and all religions getting together. We learned the golden rule, you know, do unto others as you would have others do unto you. And of course we've learned 10 minutes of, you know, we, it was a very full curriculum, mass, and it was very, very good.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=271.0,351.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: And at this school, and back then with much more better than the one that we're facing. Right,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=351.0,358.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Right. I don't know what happened to PS 164. It's something about arts or something. I don't know. Yeah. It was really a very, very the New York school system and the California school system used to being in competition for who had the better school system. And then when I got to Parsons, I was president of my classes. I was a school monitor we'd line up in the school yard next to the school, you know, when, when it wasn't snowy or inside the gymnasium if it was snowing. And we had service monitors who would lead the younger classes to, uh, to their rooms and everything. And I'd participate in that. Sometimes I was president of a class and, um, I was, uh, I participated. And of course then in Parsons Junior High, which was, it was very, very advanced. I mean, women's liberation, uh, missed us completely because, um, we already had it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=358.0,421.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Girls were taking woodworking in Parsons Junior High. And this was back. I'll tell you the years, let's see, I was in Parsons from 56 to 58, 1956 to 58. Girls were taking woodworking and boys were taking cooking. And, you know, we had co we had like, uh, clubs and everything, and we had home economics and the boys would take home economics and bake and cook with us and everything girls would take woodworking. I mean, you know, there was no discrimination and nobody ever said, you shouldn't be, you know, you shouldn't have a profession. This was a very, um, forward-looking school system here in New York, at least where I went.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=421.0,469.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNew Speaker: And, um, I was, I was, um, uh, Queensborough student council representative for the two years that I was there. I made the SP which was special progress, where you went from the seventh grade in Parsons to the ninth grade. You skipped the eighth grade. If you had a certain IQ and you had a certain reading and math ability in your last year of elementary school. And, um, so, uh, I was Queensborough student council representative for two years. I was president of my seventh grade class. I ran, I, um, I made speeches in the auditoriums and everything, and it was a very, very nice experience. I, um, I was literary arts editor of the school, uh, literary magazine. And, um, uh, I forget all the titles I had, but I was a very active student. And, um, so anyway, then I went to Forest Hills High School where I became active. I took a course in journalism and became feature editor of the school newspaper, which was \"The Beacon\". And that was, and I worked at the guidance office and I was in Forest Hills High Schools for, um, from, uh, 58 to 61 to 1961.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=469.0,561.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: And then I went to Vassar College from 61 in Poughkeepsie from 61 to 65. I was in the graduating class there. And, um, uh, later went to, uh, Columbia and took my Masters in History. And in college I was a history major. And, um, yeah. And, um, let's see, what can I say about Forest Hills - I was on the school newspaper. It was a very, very fine newspaper. The teaching was excellent. I think at the time we were the 13th best high school public high school in the country. It was a very, very excellent school. We got boys into Harvard, into all the Ivy leagues, you know, Yale. We had boys in Yale. We had girls in Vassar. We had girls in, um, uh, eventually some went to Wellesley, some were in Smith, in Barnard. I mean, boys went to Columbia from, uh, Forest Hills.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=561.0,624.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: They had honor classes and, um, they, and we were separated Forest Hill and Park. Those were the divisions. And within the school, there were, if you had good averages, if you were a good student, they had honor classes. And they had advanced placement classes like in math and in science. And they had honor societies. It was quite a high school. Uh, we had a language honor society, which I was in. We had, um, uh, um, a science honor society, which I was in and we had a history honor society, a social studies honor society, which I was also in, I was a good student. I was 10th in a graduating class of 1,201, it was a huge school. We had 5,000 students and they had a triple session there. But if I said they had honor classes for better students and, um, as of matter of fact from our school, we had Simon and Garfunkel who grew up here in Kew gardens Hills and sang in the Kew Gardens Hills Jewish center as young boys. And then I think they graduated just when I went into Forest Hills High School.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=624.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: And another famous person who's from Forest Hills, not exactly Kew Gardens Hills was Burt Bacharach. And, um, yeah, and he was from Forest Hills and, uh, also Andrew Bergman, who became, he was in my class, in my homeroom class as far as, as high school, uh, became, uh, I think he wrote blazing saddles with Mel Brooks. His name was Andrew Bergman. And, um, let's see, did we have anybody else famous from there that I can think of? Not right now. Anyway, I think also Ellen Barkin is from Kew Gardens Hills, the actress, the actress. Yes. I think she grew up.. as did Fran Drescher grew up in Kew Gardens Hills, you know, who became the nanny and wait a second, I'll be right back. Somebody is on my way. Call waiting. I'll be right back.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=701.0,765.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Perfect. Go ahead.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=765.0,767.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Alrighty. I had just mentioned that, um, um, we were sort of in competition, was it Midwood or Erasmus Hall? I forget in Brooklyn for which was the better high school between Forest Hills and Midwood. You know, we sort of a competition. And as I said, Forest Hills was the 13th best in the country. It was a wonderful high school. It was really considered top-notch and we got an excellent education. As I said, we had AP classes, we had events placement, we got people into all the Ivy leagues. It was great. And, um, it was a great school.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=767.0,808.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: If you don't mind me asking, how did you take to go to school? Did you buy, did you take the school bus?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=808.0,816.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: I took a bus. I took a bus - they had a private bus company, both to go to Parsons. Although I often walked it from Parsons because I didn't live that far away, but if I wanted to on bad mornings or whatever in the winter, when it was cold, we could take buses. There was a private bus company. I forgot the name of it. And there was a private bus company that drove us to Forest Hills High School. This side of main street was zoned for Forest Hills high school, which is one reason my mother wanted to be on this side of main street when we decided to move here. And the other side of main street was zoned for Jamaica High School, which was also a good school, but it wasn't Forest Hills.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=816.0,867.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Right. Oh, okay. Well, that's interesting. Um, uh, go ahead, Barbara.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=867.0,874.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: That's all right.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=874.0,876.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Um, uh, what was your occupation like? Um, after high school,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=876.0,883.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: I'd rather not go into my work history.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=883.0,888.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: And what about, um, any civic or volunteer activities?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=888.0,892.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Volunteer? I volunteered, uh, there's some noise there.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=892.0,897.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: On my end?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=897.0,899.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: from your end. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I volunteered at Booth Memorial Hospital. It was a Salvation Army Hospital, which is now New York Presbyterian Queens. And it started as a Salvation Army Hospital Booth Memorial. And I volunteered there as a young girl for community service. Um, I volunteered, I got a little medallion, which I still have is as a little candy striper. I made a lot of beds. I served, um, I served drinks and everything, you know, juices in the afternoon to the patients and I made a lot, a lot of beds.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=899.0,942.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh, okay. That's nice. Yeah. And during your time, um, in schooling, what events had occurred, I'm just curious to know about that part, if that's not part of the questions here, but I was just curious to know\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=942.0,959.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: What famous well, I'll tell, you know, when I wanted my Val, Oh, and I was Valedictorian at Parsons Junior High. I forgot to mention that I was Valedictorian of my class. And, um, I wrote, um, uh, one of the things that I had to do, we took an exam. I did have the highest average, but we had to take an exam too. And I wrote about the Suez Canal crisis, which was going on in the world, which is very, very interesting because the UN was supposed to be a buffer between Egypt and Israel in the Middle East. This is what I wrote about, but what happened was when Egypt invaded Israel, instead of helping Israel, the United Nations pulled out and Israel had to fight her battles alone, which was very interesting.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=959.0,1013.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: That's interesting now, um, was that, um, were you involved in any like political movements for that or? Um,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1013.0,1021.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: No, no, no, I wasn't. I wasn't involved in any political movements, but, um, no, no, no. I was president of my seventh grade, you know, there were, uh, let's see, I think 14, seventh grade classes and I was president of the, of the, uh, seventh grade and yes, I was Valedictorian. I, um, I was in, uh, I was a valedictorian. Yes. And I was Queensborough student council. I was active in the school literary magazine. I was literally arts editor. Oh. And I came in, Oh, there was a poetry contest in the junior high school division of schools that time. And I came in 10th in the citywide contest throughout the whole city of New York. I came in tense. I could recite some of my cinquains that I won with. I, I had five cinquains and, um, my, my teacher submitted them and I came in 10th in the whole city of New York.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1021.0,1086.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: And I was invited to the board of education where we met Dr. Elias Lieberman, who wrote \"I Am An American\", telling about I'm an American, the kind who came from were immigrants. Like we were straw in the wind to his three majesty. And the kind that were my, my father was, you know, uh, in the American revolution, the two kinds of Americans, one, you know, who was old America, you know, from the Revolution and new America, who were the immigrants. It was a very interesting poem. It was called, \"I am an American\" and we got a recording, a record. I got a book of poetry and he signed my, and we also got a recording of the, um, of... And then I was invited to be on a radio program. Um, uh, for appreciation of poetry. Students were there who had won. You know, in the poetry contest, we were cited our poetry and discuss poetry. And, um, if you want one of them, I, uh, for instance, um, I wrote this as one of my cinquains \"The Rain\" it's, it's five lines - that's why it's called cinquain, you know, cinq for five. Um, uh, The rain trickles down. It's called the rain.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1086.0,1167.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNew Speaker: The rain trickles down on thirsty hills, soaking up each precious droplet of silver with greed. That was one of my poems. Um, another one was The Wind - The wind whispers, its haunting message through swaying trees that howl ghostly noises at night.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1167.0,1189.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Those were two, those were all original. You know, we had to write our own poetry. And then the one who, uh, there w I was tenth in the poetry contest. It was city-wide. There were 10 winners out of the whole city of New York in the junior high school division.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1189.0,1208.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh, wow. Oh, thank you for sharing Barbara. Um, and, and so you've lived, um, I know this is going to be a silly question for me to ask. So how long have you been living in, in Queens?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1208.0,1222.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: In Queens - since the age of about six, seven. And I'm now 76. So about 70 years, 69, 70\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1222.0,1234.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Changes happened throughout the community. Correct.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1234.0,1237.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Yeah, and I was in, as I said, I was in Parsons from 56 to, I was in, uh, from second grade to sixth grade in PS 164 from 56 to 58 in Parsons because I was in the SP special progress. And skipped the eighth grade and then in Forest Hills High School from 60, uh, from 58 to 61, because the last year of junior high was the first year of high school. That's how the system was. The ninth grade was spent in Parsons junior high school. I only went from seven to nine. I skipped eighth. And then I spent three years in Forest Hills because the first year ninth was in, uh, Parsons Junior High School. That's how it was arranged at that time.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1237.0,1293.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: I see. Um, that's very interesting, Barbara. Um, so thank you so much. Um, I don't know if there's anything else you want to add before I let you go, Barbara.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1293.0,1306.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: This was when we moved here originally, it was mixed. If you want to know a little about the demographics, it was mixed Jewish, mostly conservative Jewish people. You know, there are three, there is conservative Judaism that time there was Reformed, Conservative and Orthodox. It was primarily a conservative Jewish area with Gentiles. It was mixed, conservative Jewish and Gentiles. The two were pretty much intermixed here when I moved here.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1306.0,1340.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNew Speaker: And we had, of course The Queen of Peace, which was a Catholic church. I forgot what the Protestant, as there's a Lutheran church, I forgot across main street across, um, uh, um, uh, Union Turnpike. And there's a Lutheran church and there was the Kew Gardens Hills Jewish Center. So we had a Protestant, a Catholic Church, The Queen of Peace, which also had a school, a Catholic school that time, which is still here, The Queen of Peace and the Lutheran church. And we had, uh, the Kew Gardens Hills Jewish center, which was a conservative Jewish center. Whereas I said, Simon and Garfunkel, who became famous, you know, um, uh, who became quite famous, uh, grew up here in Kew Gardens Hills.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1340.0,1391.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: And my father owned a bakery here. He later became a stock broker, but during, when we moved here, he owned a bakery here.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1391.0,1400.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Ah, I see. Yeah. Tell me a little bit about the bakery. How was that like?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1400.0,1405.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: It was very, very nice. It was a childhood dream. I was a little pudgy to tell you the truth. I mean, it's a childhood fantasy to have your father owning a bakery. My father later became a stockbroker, uh, for various reasons, but, uh, he went to school and became a stockbroker, but he owned one time. He owned three bakeries, one in, um, where was it oneClear View, and two here in Kew Gardens Hills, the Vleigh Place bakery. And my father's bakery was next to the post office. It was called the Elite Homemade pastry shop. It was Hungary. He specialized in Hungarian and French pastries and he was sort of the strudel King. And, uh, it was great. It was great childhood fantasy. As I said, I would come home from school and go to my parents were not really into watching my weight. So Barbara take what you want, sweetheart. You know, he made, you know, he made all kinds of pastries. He made rumbles Napoleons, he had Apple cherry, cherry cheese. He even made a certain type of strudel that sort of made him the Strudel King, which was a cabbage strudel, which was very interesting. It wasn't sweet. It was a savory strudel and he made kugel-offs. And, um, that time bagels were gotten through the bagel union. He didn't bake the bagels, but he baked Hallah for the holidays. He and he, he donated both to The Queen of Peace, you know, he would give cakes for free to the Lutheran church, into, um, the Kew Gardens Hills Jewish Center and everything. He, he donated cakes and pastries and, um, I knew everybody on the block. They all knew. They all knew my dad naturally.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1405.0,1520.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: There was, um, there was, uh, a businessman's association. My father was affiliated with it. And, um, they, they sort of, uh, worked, uh, you know, businessmen on Main Street. They had an organization and my father was next to the post office. He had a bakery, it was called The Elite Homade Pastry Shop. He also served, I had a freezer full of Louis Sherry Ice Cream. So you can only imagine on top of the cake my father had, and he had like ice cream cakes, every kind of cake, cheese cakes, all kinds of Danish and, you know, everything you could imagine at the time he made poppy seed, uh, uh, horns, he made, um, like nut horns. And, uh, it was quite something he had quite an assortment of cookies, like Belgian lace and everything.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1520.0,1577.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: I mean, it was, it was quite, he had, I think he worked with three bakers and, um, um, uh, eventually he bought my uncle out. He opened the bakery with my uncle and bought him out. And then eventually all three bakeries were sold. My father became a stockbroker and, um, uh, um, but he was a tremendous, wasn't a Baker from Europe, but he learned it here, he learned the trade here. And it was quite something, he was very, very good at what he did. And, uh, he re he learned to decorate you, you name it, I used to like to watch in the basement, in those days he didn't have frozen, um, you know, filo leaves and things like that. He actually stretched his own strudel dough. He had a big table in the basement and he would make his own dough for the strudels and everything. Oh, it was fun watching him and watching him decorate cakes. And when we were, I think it was, it was the second or third grade.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1577.0,1646.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Um, my class took a trip to the bakery, to my father's bakery, and he showed them, you know, all the big, giant mixers in the ovens, in the back and everything. It was quite something we would take trips in those days too. You know, they would take us to museums. It was a very good school system. They took us, I'll never forget to the museum of natural history, which you see the, I still remember those Indian total totem poles and everything. And they would take us on trips all around the city to famous places, to museums, to give us an appreciation of art and animals and everything. We went to the museum. And I remember that, and we have trips on main street to various stores and everything. My father, we went to see my father and his bakery and everything. Yeah. It was, it was very nice times. Very, very nice.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1646.0,1703.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: I mean, I realize that you Mike, and, um, Jeff, how did you all meet? High School no?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1703.0,1716.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Excuse me, excuse me. I can't understand you, sweetie.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1716.0,1721.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Um, the other, the other, um, uh, Mike, you know, Mike, Michael Sidell and...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1721.0,1728.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Oh, Mike, Mike, um... Harold Weinman. I gave you - Harold Weinman. Um, Jeff Scott Lee and Stan Norwalk.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1728.0,1741.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Yes. Yes. How did you, um, you all went to the same - in the neighborhood, correct?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1741.0,1746.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: We were in the neighborhood. I knew, um, I knew Harold Weiman. I, I didn't know Jeff in those years. Uh, I think Stan Norwalk used to come to our bakery, but I'm not sure I think he did, but anyway, um, my mother worked with my father. We sort of, as a family business, my father was in the back with the Nan and my mother was in the front with the sales girls. And, you know, we lived across the street. Uh, uh, we, uh, we moved, we sort of moved up the chain here in Kew Garden. So first we lived in garden apartments. We rented, um, an attached house here in Kew Gardens Hills and with the option to buy, but the people came back and we couldn't buy it, but my mother was able to buy another house where I live. I've lived now since about 1955, 56 in this house. Except of course when I was in college or graduate school or whatever.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1746.0,1812.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: So yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1812.0,1814.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: And yeah, go ahead. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1814.0,1816.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: When you were in college, did he dorm in college or..?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1816.0,1819.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNew Speaker: Yes. Yes. I went to Vassar College, which is an Ivy League school. It was one of the seven sisters. In those days. You didn't have a Harvard, Yale, those were the Ivy Leagues, the male schools, a Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Princeton, Williams. Um, I was, let's see, no, I don't think Brown was one of the Ivy league School, the U of P. Yeah, I got into the U of P, it was the woman's division, and I got into Vassar - those were the two schools I got into. And Vassar, Jackie Kennedy Onassis went to Vassar, Jackie Kennedy was that time was the president's wife, John F Kennedy's wife. And as a matter of fact, when I was at Vassar, I was told I had the great honor of having her, uh, having her room, one of her rooms that she had was she was at Vassar.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1819.0,1874.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1874.0,1876.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Yeah. Yeah. She went to Vassar, she did graduate. She took her junior year abroad and then graduated from the University of Washington, George Washington University. But she went to Vasser for three years, actually two, she spent there and one, she, um, went for her junior year abroad and, uh, Vassar was a girls school now it's co-ed. And Vassar, Radcliffe, we were the sister school sort of, of Yale. You had Vass, you had a Radcliffe, Wellesley, Smith, Vasser, Bryn Mawr. Um, what else? Holyoke, uh, Barnard. Those were all the girls, Ivy league schools, but of course Vassar was founded by Matthew Vassar who wanted to give girls an education equal to that of a, of a, of a man at Yale. So it was quite, I mean, they encouraged us, you know, professionally and everything. They never said you shouldn't be in this, or you should stay home and cook or nothing like that. Many of the girls - and as a matter of fact, for my class, if that's where we had the first woman head of the national Institute of health, Bernadine Healy, who unfortunately died of an early age of brain cancer, which is very unfortunate. And she was very brilliant. She went from Vassar, she went to Harvard Medical School, and then I think she interned residence at Johns Hopkins. Anyway, eventually she became the first woman head of the National Institute of Health.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1876.0,1979.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Yeah. Bernadine Healy, Bernadine Healy. Yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1979.0,1984.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh my goodness. How fascinating.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1984.0,1986.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Yeah. Well, he was from Long Island City. Yeah. She was from Long Island City. She went to Hunter High School, which was a specialized school here in the city.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1986.0,1997.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: I see. I see. Wow. Thank you so much, Barbara. Um, before I let you go, is there anything that I missed that I didn't cover.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=1997.0,2008.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Uh No. Do you want to know what my honors were in college? If you're interested? I graduated magna cum laude with honors in history of Phi Beta Kappa.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2008.0,2020.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh. And you didn't want to, um, I guess, uh, to become a history teacher or\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2020.0,2030.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: I rather not go into my professon. It's a long story. Anyway. Anyway, um, that's about it. Are there any other questions you have? And then of course, Columbia was wonderful. Columbia was a wonderful school. It was an excellent, excellent school, but you know, out in Vassar, we had to write theses honors theses. I was in the honors program. That's why I graduated magna cum laude with honors in history Phi Beta Kappa. I was in the honors program and wrote a thesis on a Cardinal, a 15th century cardinal, Nicholas of Kusa, who was sort of a pre runner to the, um, to the, uh, um, sort of the Renaissance man of the Renaissance, you know, while he was the right-hand man of, of Pope Pius. The second he was also, um, he was also, he, he, he met, made scientific instruments, had one of the best libraries in Europe.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2030.0,2093.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: I mean, he was quite a man Nicholas of Kusa. And then in college, I, my thesis for my masters at Columbia was, um, uh, John Morley and revolution. He wrote about it because our topic in my seminar was the repercussions of the French revolution. And I did it in England. And John Morley brought the writings of the philosophic and the intellectuals of the French revolution to England. And of course the King, the British were not very happy with that because, you know, they'd be headed a King in is in France and they just like anything to do with the French revolution. But John Morley brought the writings of the French revolution to, to England and then went into politics first. He was an intellectual and had the fortnightly review and then went into politics. He became, what was it? Um, secretary of state to Ireland under Gladstone's cabinet. He was, uh, he was a Knight. He was in a 19th century, um, uh, British politician, first intellectual and politician. And he dealt with revolutionary situations in Ireland and India. He became foriegn secretary, or I forget if I think to India. Yeah. Foreign Secretary to India and dealt with revolutionary situations the most, it was a very interesting thesis. And, um, so anyway, that was my, um, master's thesis. So, and yeah, and I graduated Columbia and, um, that's it with my masters. And that's it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2093.0,2197.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh, wonderful. Barbara why didn't you become a librarian?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2197.0,2206.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: I have done so much reading in my time. Maybe you could fill a library with the books I've read.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2206.0,2213.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Yeah, I know Barbara. Thank you. Thank you so much for your time. Um, I don't want her to be screaming and yelping around you so well, but I appreciate this so much, Barbara. Um, again, you know everything is going to be edited. We'll have you listen to it. And then of course, Um, we'll proceed in.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2213.0,2241.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Oh, and by the way, our, our graduations, if you want to know something interesting, our graduation from Parsons in, in, uh, Parsons Jr. And, uh, Oh, it's our graduation in the auditorium at 164, PS 164, I a recited the Americans creed and, uh, we had recitals and then, uh, in Parsons junior high school, our, uh, I believe our graduation was at the Keith's Movie Theater in Flushing. There were movie theaters, of course it wasn't, it wasn't Asian at the time, you know, as Flushing is today, mainly Asian. But, um, it was, uh, very different and there were like two movie theaters, the Prospect let's see, I forget where the, where we, if the key for the prospect, well, whatever, one of the two movie theaters there, and it was very different. And, um, we had our graduation there and I, I read my Valedictorian.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2241.0,2304.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: I, I didn't read, I recited my valedictory from memory. I didn't read it. And, um, as far as Forest Hills High School where I was tenth in my class um, we did the, um, we, we had our, uh, at Forest Park, we had our graduation, our graduation at that time from Forest Hills was held at Forest Park and Kew Gardens. And, um, and, uh, it was very, very, very nice, At Vassar of course it was at Vassar, we had an outdoor sort of, uh, uh, place where we had our graduation and, um, Columbia of course was, uh, at the... On Columbia campus. But, um, uh, it was very, very nice. So anyway, uh, Mario Cuomo was at our graduation at Columbia.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2304.0,2362.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Okay. You too. Thank you so much for this. I appreciate your time and everything that you do really? I do. And I, now I'm looking at you at a new leaf.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2362.0,2377.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: My multi-talents, my multi-talents. Yeah,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2377.0,2381.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: No secretly hidden, I would never, you know, I would never assume. And so it's good that I'm doing this with you Barbara, at least I got to get to know you more closely, you know?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2381.0,2392.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Oh, very nice, Susan. I wish I knew you better, but hopefully, maybe, maybe one day we can have more time to talk.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2392.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Exactly. And I probably would prefer in-person, you know, with a cup of coffee,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2400.0,2407.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Right, and a nice Danish or something.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2407.0,2413.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Exactly.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2413.0,2413.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNew Speaker: Are you a cheese, Danish person?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2413.0,2416.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Uh huh. I love it. My, my mom and I, we love it. Um, and, and bakery forget it. We love all types of bakery. Um, I was attempting to bake, um, there's this Jewish cookie that I love so much that they fill it with jam. Um, um, and I went to make\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2416.0,2438.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Oh a hamantaschen.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2438.0,2438.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nNew Speaker: Three quarter, you know, that was for us something, a Haman had a three quarter hat or something, you know, that comes from the book of Esther Purim in Judaism. She saves the Jews and how she saved the Jews from extermination by Haman the evil prime minister of the King Ahasuerus or whatever his name was. I forget. Anyway. Uh, and, uh, so we eat hamantaschen on Purim and the Jews were safe from extermination as we were in the second world war when America won the war. Yes,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2438.0,2479.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Sydney. Um, when I hear stories, even films, when I see some, I, I, it just gets to me all the time, like seeing that, but, um, yeah,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2479.0,2491.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: My parents were Hungarian / Romanian.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2491.0,2494.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh, wow.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2494.0,2497.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: They, they got here before Hitler got to them.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2497.0,2501.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh, good. Thank God. Yeah. I can imagine, um, that kind of life, you know, uh, back then, I, and I'm still saying,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2501.0,2510.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Oh, so much discrimination in those countries one day, I'll tell you all about it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2510.0,2517.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: That would be off the record. So\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2517.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: You're more interested in Kew Gardens Hills.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2520.0,2527.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Yeah. They were originally from Transylvania, which was a little disputed area between Hungary and Romania. So they spoke many languages.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2527.0,2537.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2537.0,2538.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: So I'm actually Hungarian-Romanian. Sounds a little odd, but I'm Hungarian, Romanian. I'm not one ethnicity and sort of I'm Hungarian Romanian.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2538.0,2547.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Oh yeah. Oh, wonderful. All right. Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate all this. Okay.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2547.0,2556.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Alrighty. And have a good time. And I'd love to hear how you're going to edit it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2556.0,2561.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Yes, I definitely will. I'll be sure to send you a copy for it Barbara.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2561.0,2565.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: All right. Thank you very, very much. And be well, stay safe from the COVID Susan, you and the family and all your loved ones. And it was my pleasure to participate in this project. I think it's worthwhile. I think all the memories we can preserve are really, really important.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2565.0,2586.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Absolutely. Absolutely. Yep. Couldn't agree more. Well, thank you. Yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2586.0,2594.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: Did you know that this is a British area? Kew Gardens Hills. I mean, it was there in New York. There are Dutch areas. Kew Gardens Hills was named for Kew Gardens in England. That's where the name came from. It's a very famous, uh, garden in England called Kew Gardens and Kew Gardens Hills. It was named for a Kew Gardens in England. Oh, wow. Yeah, because the Dutch, after the Dutch, the Br, the British came to New York and changed the name from New Amsterdam to New York after the Duke of York, after the British, when they took over New York from the Dutch and this area was British. And, uh, it became, uh, it got its name from Kew gardens, which is a famous garden in England.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2594.0,2647.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSusan Paredes: Right. Yep. Oh, wow. That's interesting. That's that's good history there. Right, right. Barbara, again, I don't want to, um, yeah, definitely. Thank you so much again. Um, and if I'm missing something from, uh, if there's something else, um, that I'm missing, I hope I don't. I hope you don't mind if I reach out to you again.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2647.0,2668.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699/transcript/30255/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nBarbara Joel: No, no, but feel free. Feel free, Susan, anytime you want, if I'm not here, just leave a message and I'll get back to you. Absolutely. Thank you again, Barbara. You're welcome. Bye-bye.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/45653/file/118699#t=2668.0,2685.70122"}]}]}]}