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Chin describes the various jobs she has had beginning at the age of 14, eventually becoming a legal secretary at a law firm and a legal secretarial instructor in the Adult Education Program at Queens College. Chin explains that she found training legal secretaries and paralegals as well as preparing students for standardized admissions tests (e.g. LSAT, MCAT, and GMAT) to be deeply fulfilling work.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eChin notes that as a mother, she wanted to provide her daughter with opportunities that weren't necessarily available to herself as a child. Chin discusses why she decided to homeschool her daughter, the educational and testing requirements of homeschooling, and the travel and athletic opportunites that her daughter was able to gain through homeschooling. Chin also discusses how she has spent her time during the COVID-19 pandemic; she describes her routines, the new interests she has developed, and the extra quality time she has been able to spend with her husband and her daughter in Auburndale. Additionally, Chin speaks about her passion for volunteering, including online tutoring, and helping youth find community service opportunities. 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Chin explains how as the oldest of her parents' three children, she provided guidance to her younger sister and brother as well as financial support for the family. Chin describes the various jobs she has had beginning at the age of 14, eventually becoming a legal secretary at a law firm and a legal secretarial instructor in the Adult Education Program at Queens College. Chin explains that she found training legal secretaries and paralegals as well as preparing students for standardized admissions tests (e.g. LSAT, MCAT, and GMAT) to be deeply fulfilling work.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eChin notes that as a mother, she wanted to provide her daughter with opportunities that weren't necessarily available to herself as a child. Chin discusses why she decided to homeschool her daughter, the educational and testing requirements of homeschooling, and the travel and athletic opportunites that her daughter was able to gain through homeschooling. 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We will be recording our interview for the Queens Memory Project on Friday, May 21st, 2021. We are both members of a cohort, Reinvigorating Wise Lives, a joint project of the Queens Public Library and Queens College memory project. Please properly pronounce your name and spell it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Sure. I'm Leona Chin. L-E-O-N-A C-H-I-N.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=49.0,58.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Thank you so much. Now tell me a little bit about yourself. You know, a little bit about yourself, what is your—is English your first language?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=58.0,69.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yes. I'm a Queens resident for about 25 years. I moved from Brooklyn. What else can I tell you about myself, just really quickly? I work in Queens and spend a lot of my recreational time in Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=69.0,91.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Recreational time, meaning?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=91.0,96.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Going to the park, going to restaurants, going to movies, theater, taking my daughter around. When my husband played volleyball and basketball, we would go to the parks and the courts, the recreational centers here in Queens. So, that's what I mean by recreation as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=96.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Great, great. Very nice. Okay. So do you have a second language somehow?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=120.0,130.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: No. My parents are from Taishan, China and they spoke, but when they came to America, they wanted their children to speak English. So, the emphasis was on our becoming educated and to be able to take care of ourselves. So while there was a small emphasis on learning the language, it wasn't primary. It was more important for us to learn English and to be able to make a living here and to be able to, I guess, assimilate and acclimate ourselves to the culture here because we probably weren't going to go back to China.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=130.0,174.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So you are originally from China?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=174.0,177.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: No, I was born here. I was actually born in New York. I was born in the New York Infirmary, which I think is New York Hospital now. So I was born here. I'm a New York—I'm a New Yorker and a United States citizen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=177.0,189.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Okay. Okay, great. Wonderful. So I take it that you probably speak some Chinese also, right? No?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=189.0,200.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Very little. Very little at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=200.0,203.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Okay. Okay, so you answered my question. So I'm going to go back to a question. What impact did your parents or your sibling have on your life choices like educational and career goals, lifestyles and traditions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=203.0,230.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Well, my parents had a laundry because they didn't have language skills. My mother went outside of the laundry, like that laundry job that we had, only once and it was too overwhelming for her. So she only worked one day outside of the home. My parents had a laundry and that's where we grew up. So we learned to help in the laundry, and at the earliest point that I could work, when I was able to get working papers here when I was 14, I started working outside. So my first job was working at a daycare center, which was across the street from my junior high school. And then I guess my second job was working at McDonald's. I was a fast food person, fast food cashier, fast food cook.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=230.0,280.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: My siblings, I'm the eldest, so my siblings—I don't know what impact they had on me, but I think I had more responsibility to guide them along so that they would continue and finish their education, and also if it was to find part-time work, that they be able to find some type of work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=280.0,302.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: How did it impact my educational and, let's see, lifestyle? Lifestyle I'm not sure. I was all about family. Everything was about my family since I am the eldest. And I'm also not a male [laughs]. My brother is the youngest. So that had a lot of impact, I think, on a lot of what we did. My parents were very focused on my brother being very successful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=302.0,328.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: My—the mission, I don't want to say mission, we spoke about mission, but my purpose was to graduate and then marry well. My sister is second. My brother is the last, and the baby, so it was more important for him to have a professional career and to be, I guess, successful, because he was carrying on the family name. So, maybe that had an impact on how I live my life, but I know that—I have a daughter. So my—a lot of my emphasis is that she have the same opportunities that any of the young men would have. So education, culture, sports, work. That was very important to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=328.0,381.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: My siblings, how did they impact my lifestyle? I'm very conservative, although I enjoy learning new things. I've taught adult education. I've taught and tutored high school students. I've tutored young people. And I guess my parents just being—we were a very nuclear family because in the laundry my parents never had to leave home to, I guess, do their profession. They didn't have to—they weren't at the post office. They didn't have an office job. They were always at home. So whenever we needed to, we could talk to—I could talk to my dad. I could talk to my mom. They helped us with homework. They walked us to and from school. And so they were always around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=381.0,433.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So I never felt like there was anything missing. I wasn't a latchkey kid as they used to call it when we were younger. So my parents always met us at the school and we always—there was always a dialogue. I always knew what they were thinking. We knew what they were thinking. Our, you know, my grandparents lived with us, so they had an impact on a lot of what we did. So we spent a lot of time caring for our grandparents as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=433.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And education was the most important. It was just to be able to communicate and just be productive citizens because, as my parents would say, we're going to outlive them and they can't carry us. So we would have to be able to sustain ourselves. And that was the impact that my parents, I think, had on educational goals, lifestyle goals. And for me, it was just to, I guess, find a good match. You know, marry, maybe have a family, maybe pursue a career. And career is just so—it was so random. So I probably could talk about that more in a little bit. I'm sure you have other questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=464.0,513.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Yes, it's pretty good. I can—I like it, what I'm hearing. So you have mentioned a couple of jobs. Which one is your favorite and what memory you have out of that job?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=513.0,530.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Okay, we'll start at the beginning really quick. So, as I said, my first full-time, well, my first real job was a part-time summer job at a daycare center, and that was when I turned 14. Then the year after that, in the summer, I started working at McDonald's and I had to travel. I lived in Brooklyn and I had to travel to Manhattan. So that was my part-time job. So I was working at McDonald's with other high school friends. So it was very enjoyable, but I was also making a little bit of money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=530.0,560.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So after that, I went to college. I did work study. And away at college, I worked during the Christmas season part-time to make some extra money for books, food, whatever. I worked at a toy store in a mall. I went to school in Philadelphia and I worked at KB toys. And I worked part time, I don't know, selling toys [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=560.0,587.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And then because I was at a school that had, like, a cooperative program, I was sent home in my sophomore year because I wasn't able to take the job that they had assigned me to. They assigned me to work in Red Bank, New Jersey. And to do that, I would have to sign a lease. I would have to drive a car, which I didn't have a license for. And there was no way that I could commute to this job. I was—I studied chemical engineering. That was my major. And I wasn't able to do that, so the college offered me an option to come home and find a job for the, like, the two semesters that I was supposed to work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=587.0,631.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So I came home and I found a job at a bank and I worked as a teller. And I worked as a teller for about a year, and I enjoyed staying home. I enjoy being with my family. So I decided, okay, I'm going to take some time off, and I'm going to go to school at night in the city. I mean, because we're in New York, everything is available here. So I worked full-time at the bank and I went part-time to college. From the bank, I found another job, because I wanted to go to school during the day, and I found a job working at night for Brinks, which is a money counting operation or a business. So I worked at Brinks at night and studied during the day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=631.0,676.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And then from there I said, oh, what is my career going to be? I can't study chemical engineering in the city. So I then transferred, made another transfer to another college, and I studied business, economics, with a minor in chemistry because chemical engineering was what my, I guess, my first pursuit was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=676.0,700.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And then during that time, one of my close friends said to me, \"Do you want to help me? We need a typist. We need someone to type at night. I need a word processor. They don't care really what the hours are, but they need someone.\" So I started working for a law firm while I was looking for a full-time job, because I really didn't know what I wanted to do. When you're young, you're like 22, 23 and—everything is available in New York City. So I started typing at night and I started—and I was working actually at a publishing firm as an accounts receivable clerk—I forgot, it had to do with math. It was just because I had good math skills. So I was doing this job during the day and I was typing at night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=700.0,749.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And I learned typing in junior high school. And that was one of the, like, women's classes that you could take, cuz the boys took shop. And so I word processed. I used to work from 7 o'clock to 3 in the morning. The law firm would send you home in a cab, so I didn't have to worry about security. And I really enjoyed it because it was very solitary. I learned to proofread. I worked with legal documents. I learned to write, like, I learned to write as the attorneys would write because I would be revising their documents and helping them put together papers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=749.0,787.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And that really—I don't know, it was like doing papers in college and it makes sense to me and I really, really enjoyed it. So when the opportunity came that I can go full time days as a legal secretary, paralegal, whatever you want to call it, that's what I wound up doing. And so when you talk about jobs, that's like all about what I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=787.0,815.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: While I was working at the law firm, the receptionist there knew—one of her best friends was the director at Queens College adult education programs. And they said, we need a legal secretarial instructor. Would you be interested? They said, please write up a proposal and bring it to us and we'll review it. We think that we need this because we also—we have medical secretary, we have medical transcription, we have all of these allied health professions. We want to expand our legal program because we have a paralegal studies program. And I said, okay, I'm young. It's okay. I'll give it a shot. I wrote the proposal. I submitted it at the beginning of the year, and they said, okay, we're good to go. In the fall, you'll start.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=815.0,863.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So I'm working at the law firm and one day the college calls me and says, Leona, can you teach WordPerfect? That's what they wanted me to teach. And I said, of course. They said, can you come in tonight? One of our instructors decided not to show up. So I'm teaching adult education, but I'm teaching WordPerfect. And I said, okay, what have I got to lose? So I show up and that was 25 some odd years ago now. Yeah. 1996 I started working there and I've been working consistently since. I've worked in their SAT [also known as Scholastic Assessment Test] programs. I've worked in their corporate [unclear], like, corporate training programs. I generally teach, like, computer skills.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=863.0,912.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So I've spoken to the group and told them that, yeah, I taught seniors when I was at Queens College. There was a program specifically for seniors and it was about computers, and history, anything that they were interested in. And it was just—it was amazing. It was so wonderful. And it was like the highlight of my day because I would work full time during the day and then rush to the college, teach three hours and then go home. But I really enjoy teaching, and that might've been my career, I guess career, but I never thought of it. My parents wanted me to be an engineer. It was a profession. So, that's some of the jobs I've done. But, because of all of the jobs [unclear] part-time jobs as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=912.0,970.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So you have done a lot of work. So I take it as that you finished your education?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=970.0,978.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Actually, to be honest, no, I didn't. I was teaching paralegals. I was teaching legal secretaries, helping them get to their certifications, because there's all certifications. And then I got pregnant. So the choice was, do I try to balance all of this and also finish my degree? But at the time it wasn't important. And my directors were happy with my work. My students were happy because they had, I guess, they had succeeded. They had graduated. They had gone on—like, many of the paralegals that I taught years ago or legal secretaries I taught years ago, they're attorneys now. They're practicing attorneys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=978.0,1025.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And I just like to think that I'm the person in the back. I'm a background person. I will be able to help push buttons and supply you with documents and supply you with leads and put together and organize your date book and your travel plans and set up the conference room and the catering. That's something that I really enjoy doing. And I also, like I said, I proofread. I'm very good just like quietly in the background doing what needs to get done. So it didn't seem to be as pressing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1025.0,1066.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And as a result, I also was given the opportunity to perform a placement function at the college. So along with teaching the adults, I also placed them. So that was mind blowing. I was able to, on a grant, I was being paid to place adults that were outsourced, like—in the eighties, a lot of the, how do you say, the brokerage houses had laid off a lot of employees. So we did the retraining and then through the retraining, we were given the responsibility, myself and another instructor, to place these students. So we would place, like, computer students, allied health students, paralegal students, pre-nursing students. Anyone who came through our adult education programs, we would spend our time working with local employers for internships, for full-time, part-time jobs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1066.0,1132.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: We worked with companies in the city, in Queens, on Long Island, anything in the proximity of Queens College. Oh, I forgot to mention that's where I taught and that's where I placed my students. So, it was just a wonderful and very random experience. This was not what I expected at all. But I still continue to teach. I substitute when they need an instructor. But the adult education program is no more, so it's very difficult to find this work, especially after COVID. And everything is online, so I tutor online, but I don't teach face-to-face anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1132.0,1179.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Okay. We'll talk about the COVID just a little bit, but—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1179.0,1181.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1181.0,1181.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: —first tell me, did you do your bachelor degree?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1181.0,1181.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: No, I didn't finish—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1181.0,1192.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Oh, you—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1192.0,1192.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: —believe it or not. I didn't finish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1192.0,1193.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Oh, because [unclear] into work, mostly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1193.0,1197.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: I was working two jobs when I was teaching at the college. And then as I said, well, we bought a house—like all of this happened at the same time—we bought a house, I started teaching at the college, then about a year later I got pregnant. And we were like, oh, maybe we weren't going to have kids, and then I got pregnant, and then I had to make a decision. Am I going to stay home? Am I going to work full time? So the decision was I was going to quit my full-time job, which I did, which was in the city for the law firm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1197.0,1229.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And I just continued to teach. And that was my job. And the thing is, they were aware that I didn't have my degree, but I was teaching adults. I was teaching adults. So I'm not a professor, even though everyone thinks just because you teach at the college, you must be a professor. But, I'm not. And—but because I, how do you say, I changed majors, because I went from chemical engineering to chemistry then to economics, I'm missing maybe, who knows, maybe half a year of credits. Because I had to make up liberal arts, I had to make up all of the things that I hadn't done in my freshman year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1229.0,1266.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So at that point I was already working. I was doing well. My daughter growing, thriving. My husband doing well. We had finally had a house. My parents didn't have a house. We rented. My brother, sister and I shared a bedroom because, you know, immigrant family. So I was like, okay, we've made it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1266.0,1285.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And so going forward, yes, I made sure my sister got her degree. My brother has multiple degrees because he's the boy and he's the youngest. And we made sure they all stayed on track, but all through that time, I continued to work and support, if I had to, my parents and my siblings if they needed it. So, I mean, there were times that, when you mentioned, sometimes I regret that I didn't, although right now I'm taking classes online towards the degree, but it's not as important because I'm not chasing anything right now. I'm more, what can I give back for all of the people that have provided me opportunity? Because only here, I think, only here in America, only here in New York City would this possibility be and I'm so grateful and thankful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1285.0,1345.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Wonderful. Wonderful. If you ever find interesting or like [unclear] degrees always, getting the degrees always. I mean, education is always, you can do—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1345.0,1358.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Oh, yes—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1358.0,1358.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: —more with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1358.0,1361.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yeah. I mean, I agree because the thing that—I don't know. It's fascinating to me. When I was coming up, because I went to one of the specialized high schools in the city—I went to Brooklyn Tech [Brooklyn Technical High School]—so I took the exam, the entrance exam, cold. There was no preparation. There was no test books. There were no classes. But I taught those classes. I prepped students for those exams. I prepped students for the LSAT [Law School Admission Test], for the MCAT [Medical College Admission Test], the GMAT [Graduate Management Admission Test]. I helped prep them, just like the mindset, to take an exam.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1361.0,1402.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And sometimes I feel almost, I don't know, that I'm collecting money, like tuition money, from people to help them study for an exam that they should be prepared for, because there are public school teachers, private school teachers doing their job every single day and they need supplemental help. And it just seems somehow—I don't know. It should be that they're interested in knowing all of the knowledge that they need to get into these schools, or that they want to be—if they want to be a doctor that their passion and their motivation should make them want to study and be there. But, that's the way it is. Sometimes schools are more business than they are about education. And sometimes that concerns me, so—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1402.0,1458.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Wonderful. Wonderful. You are doing so well. About a few minutes ago [unclear] just touched the pandemic. How did it—how would you feel, like, to describe 2020?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1458.0,1476.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Oh, it was like full stop. Like, my personality is that I like to learn things, see things, do things. So, because I wasn't working full-time, I was able to go and volunteer. So I spent a lot of time volunteering because my daughter, when she graduated high school, I felt she needed to be more independent. She's 18. I don't need to shadow her and follow her. So I said, okay, I have to go and do things. So I decided to start volunteering. So I got myself involved with a food pantry. I got myself involved with a parks group. And I got myself involved with helping kids find community service work. So through that, I had a very full schedule. So we were—I was taking classes at parks, learning how to work with community groups, learning about advocacy, learning about voting because last year we had the census and then we also had a push for younger people to vote. And it was really important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1476.0,1539.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So when 2020 came around, like February, March, we were just starting our campaigns up because we're coming out of the winter time moving into the spring. And since I work with a parks group, we're able to bring the young volunteers to the park to clean. So we were gearing up for our first, like, major event. We have major cleanup every month at the Velodrome in Queens, which is right near Queens College. And then COVID, it was full stop. March 18th, I was at a press conference with our food pantry. And then I think the weekend after, or maybe the weekend before, the mayor and governor said, okay, everything is shut down. We're the epicenter of the COVID pandemic. No—like, people shouldn't be with each other. We can't be in groups. We need to protect everyone and protect ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1539.0,1592.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So at that point, everything shut down. And it was, I mean, never in a million years would you imagine that something like that would happen in your lifetime, you know? So it was just take it day by day. And, that's basically what happened. And I was a recluse as opposed to being—I was always out two, three times a day here, there, everywhere, and then it was just we were shut down. It was a sad time too because—lost many friends, many colleagues. I happened to be working with someone for the first time. She contracted the disease, I mean, the virus, and then her husband also contracted, and then they both passed within five days of each other. And that was, I think, during the summer of 2020.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1592.0,1645.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So, you realize then that, like, how precious life is, how short your time is. You don't know whether it's today, tomorrow, so to try to do as much as you can when you can, where you are. So, I mean—and the whole year was like that. And because we had social media, because I am on Facebook, I was able to see my friends, and then all of the announcements of the police officers, the service personnel, the essential workers passing because they were trying to do their jobs was just totally overwhelming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1645.0,1681.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And then, you also look and you say, you know, this is humanity. These people are, like I had mentioned before about being in Queens and being in a group of brothers and sisters, that these people were basically offering up their lives so that they could serve us. Make sure that we had food, make sure that the—fire, the mail people, the nurses, the frontline, the supermarket workers. You don't think much about it. The garbage people, the people who are doing all of our—I don't know, the electricians, the cable people, everybody who was keeping us connected, they all had an impact on what we we're doing. And if something happened to them, would we even notice? We go about our days, everyone's hustle, bustle, busy, busy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1681.0,1728.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: We—it was a big reflective time. There was a lot of time to think, you know? Staring in space. What does this all mean? Why am I here? What's my purpose? How can I give back? I think that was like the overall thing, because that was the only thing I think that drove me to keep moving forward. Also, my daughter. You know, when you have children, you're looking for their future, you're looking for hope. And I was like, I don't know, I can't make things better for her. I can't—I don't know the future. And I just hope that we can come out of this so that there's days that she will say, oh, I'm looking forward to this and this, and smelling flowers or planting a garden or whatever it is that she wants to do. So yeah, overwhelming. 2020 was totally overwhelming. I'm glad we're in 2021. And I'm glad I'm here with you [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1728.0,1788.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Did you work on [computer], I mean, online?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1788.0,1794.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: I guess you would say I consulted. I didn't feel right taking pay, so I didn't really work. So, I think I've told you before, I serve online. So, like for the food pantry, I do their data entry. So I don't—there's no pay involved. Sometimes I would help tutor or help, like, kids with their homework, but I—because it wasn't set up as a job, so I don't feel that I was, like, working, working. I feel I was serving. I was helping, but I was online helping people. But I wasn't working, I guess. Cuz I see work as, like, you give me, I don't know, 20 dollars an hour or 15 dollars an hour, and then I have to provide two hours of service or something. So I was online, remotely helping, but I wasn't being paid, so I wasn't working, I guess. I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1794.0,1854.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So you were volunteering. That's great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1854.0,1856.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Right. Kind of, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1856.0,1856.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Wonderful. So how did you take care of yourself during the—what did you do during this pandemic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1856.0,1865.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: I walked around the block a lot. What else did I do? Learn to cook, I mean, like, more elaborate dishes that I never had the time for. I spent a lot of time watching YouTube, learning anything and everything that I could. Sewing, crocheting, knitting things that I never finished. Like, I know how to knit, but I don't know how to finish well, right? Or, I would look and watch other people redesign clothes. They would make pajamas or they would make curtains or they would take something that was too big, like a man's shirt, and make it into a woman's dress or something. So I spent a lot of time binge watching those things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1865.0,1912.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Oh, and we had discussed before, I spent a lot of time watching Korean dramas because of my daughter. Korean soap operas. So we would binge watch those, and that was something that I did to pass the time. I read some books. Tried to clean up a little, but I had no incentive to clean because I couldn't have visitors. So there was no incentive to clean anything or reorganize. I want to do it. In my mind I said I wanted to, but I couldn't. I couldn't jump-start that because I said, \"When will I get to see a friend in my house? It may not happen.\" So, I tried to keep it day to day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1912.0,1951.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And so, like I say, we'd go off for a walk, sometimes go to the park. Get takeout every once in a while. We had a routine after maybe about May of last year. So yeah, it's been about a year. So every Thursday the pizza shop has a special. So every Thursday night is pizza night, and that's it. Regardless of what's going on, it's pizza night and then we'd look forward to that. So, that's what we did during the pandemic to try to make it more routine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1951.0,1985.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So, in general, how has this pandemic affected you and me and people mentally?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1985.0,1995.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yeah. Like I said, one thing is that I'm very grateful that you're healthy, I'm healthy, we're still healthy. The fear I have is that other people still have doubts that there's something, that there actually is a virus, and that there's nothing that we can do. So I'm going to continue to mask, right? I'm half vaccinated. So, it's very hard to impose your will on someone else. I can only encourage other people to take the virus seriously and want to protect themselves and their loved ones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=1995.0,2043.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: But like I said, it's huge. I mean, this is huge. I mean, to have travel shut down, schools shut down, places where you shop shut down so that there's no normal course of the day, it's like we've gone all the way back. Yet, we have the technology to have conversation with each other, which I'm so grateful for, because I think the isolation would have been more heavy mentally on me if I couldn't see you, or if I couldn't hear you, or if I couldn't have the exchange as we're speaking. Because I've had many phone calls with old friends, checking in on them, and those are the highlights of my week. So, in a way it was good because there was time to actually reconnect with friends and family that maybe you didn't have opportunity to talk to them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2043.0,2109.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Because sometimes when you have big family gatherings, everyone is busy getting food, talking, taking care of the children, taking care of the dishes, moving the car, all these things. So one-on-one was actually a blessing to be able to connect with someone that maybe you didn't have an opportunity to. I know I did—I have connected with many friends from high school over the pandemic, which I guess maybe I wouldn't have had an opportunity to had it not been for this because no one would've had time. No one would've had time for me. They would have been busy. I'm working. I'm going on a business trip. I'm going with my kids to vacation or something. So, yeah, like I said, the technology made it, I guess, easier to handle. And, like, it's funny, today I'm hopeful, right? That going forward, it'll be better. Each day it will be better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2109.0,2171.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Anything positive about this pandemic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2171.0,2175.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: I think—I hope that people would have learned to appreciate each other more. I know living with your family—so my daughter and my husband and I, there's only three of us. We're on top of each other now 24/7. So we're our family members, office workers, hangout buddies, everything. The kitchen was like the big meeting place, the break room at work. When we had to vent, we had to vent to each other. When we were hungry, tired, sleepy, whatever it was, we were all we had. And it's very different when you're always passing each other, coming from school, going to school, coming from work, going to work, going shopping, coming back, get this, get this, get this. I think it was a wonderful, positive experience for our family. We got to know each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2175.0,2229.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: I cherished this time because my daughter's not going to want to stay with us forever. She's going to move on to her own family and other interests. So, I'm so grateful because I knew that when she finished college, I was going to be—you were going to lose the children because they're adults. I mean, we've done our job. We've given them the tools and it's their turn to shine and move on. So, I'm grateful for the time we had to hold onto her a little bit more because—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2229.0,2264.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Do you travel [unclear]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2264.0,2266.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Do I travel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2266.0,2267.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2267.0,2269.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: I'll be honest. I traveled with my daughter. My daughter in middle and high school was, how would you say, was a student athlete. So my daughter fenced and my daughter shot archery and she also rode a bicycle competitively. So I spent a lot of time driving, carrying bags, holding onto plane tickets and train tickets and bus tickets to get her to competition. And so, we were able to travel. I mean, we didn't go further than probably Canada, but our travels took us national. So we would go to the west coast for her fencing tournament. Or she would have a cycling tournament in, or a cycling race or meet, down in Florida. She would shoot archery in Ohio. And so, I was able to see other cities and states.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2269.0,2325.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: I mean, I like to watch when people are on their lunch hours. I'm, like, really strange. I like to watch and see what they do, what they wear, what they're eating, what they're drinking. I like looking at the food trucks. And for whatever it is, for whatever it's worth, my daughter was able to give that to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2325.0,2346.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And I guess I can share more with you—I homeschooled my daughter. So because of her athletic—as a student athlete, we spent a lot of time in museums, art museums. We went to shows when we went—whenever she had a competition, we would try to plan events around her competitions. So if we were coming in, let's say on a Friday for her to fence, we would go to maybe a musical, a music concert, after her event. Or during the day, if there was something in the park or if there was something, an exhibit, art exhibit—well, it had to be educational too for my daughter, but to me it was just, like, wow, this is great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2346.0,2388.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Cuz I remember once we were in Kentucky and we went to—I think it was Louisville, what is it, baseball bats or something. So we got to go to that museum and I would never have—in my wildest dreams I wouldn't have. And then, as I told you, my daughter introduced me to Korean dramas, the soap operas, but she also was involved with K-pop, anime and these things. So while we were at tournament, we would also go to these anime conventions where people were all dressed up as these, I don't know, these figures from comic books, I guess, and from movies. So, my mind was blown. This is what the young people do now. They go, they get dressed up in costume like their favorite movie characters and they take pictures. They all stand around and they pose and they put it on social media.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2388.0,2449.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So like I said, it was just so different for me. And I couldn't explain it to my parents because they couldn't understand at all. So all I would tell them is we're going to tournament, and we went to the museum, and they were satisfied that we had visited. And also, as my daughter was in high school, we also went to visit colleges. So we did a lot of college tours. We visited different campuses to check, also on their performing arts, their—we got to see their gyms, and their recreation centers, and dormitories, and also learn more about what kind of research studies were going on across the country. I mean, we were fascinated with North Carolina. We were on the west coast looking at the California schools. And again, as I said, my daughter did decide to go to school in the city. So we thought we were going to lose her to California. We wouldn't see her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2449.0,2504.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: But it was just fascinating because when I was younger, my parents didn't have that dream for me to go to a college, and I wasn't going to be going to a college in California. That was probably going to be out of the question cuz it was three of us and I was the eldest and it was more important for my brother to have the best education that they could provide. So—but that's my travel, and I mainly traveled with my daughter because of her student athletic, I guess, program and process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2504.0,2541.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Can you describe homeschooling just a little bit and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2541.0,2544.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2544.0,2544.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: —how much did you homeschool your daughter?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2544.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: We homeschooled her through high school. So, when—I'm an older mom. I had my daughter when I was 38. So—and I also taught. I taught at the college. I tutored. I spent a lot of time working with other people's children and I kept saying to myself, I don't want it to be by chance that my daughter gets a good teacher. Like, my feeling is that all the public schools should be able to provide an education, a wonderful education for all the children so everyone can learn, everyone can explore and discover and develop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2550.0,2590.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: But, I was tutoring these children. They were learning all kinds of crazy math in second grade and they needed a tutor. So I said, it wouldn't be so bad. I'll give it a shot. And then this way I can know my daughter, right? And my daughter can also know her parents, I mean, her parents and her grandparents. That was my concern, that she would not know her grandparents.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2590.0,2613.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So, we started homeschooling, and then when we got to maybe third or fourth or fifth grade, it was like there was a time to decide, okay, are we going to put her in middle school? And middle school is a very difficult time for any child, right? Developmental, boys, girls, bullying, non-bullying, all this kind of stuff. So I said, she's thriving. She's doing really well. She was part of a robotics program. She enjoyed art. She enjoyed writing. She enjoyed reading, right? So I said, let's take it through middle school and see what happens and then maybe we'll have her apply to high school. Then she could sit and take APs [Advanced Placement] and do the SAT and do prom and all that stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2613.0,2657.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: By the time we had gotten to that point, she was already into her sports. And at that level, you have to continue, continue, continue, and I didn't want to interrupt her studies. So, there's a great network of homeschooling professionals, I guess we'll call them, and we share with each other what we know. I teach math inside of my, like, our homeschool co-op. And so we have a professor at Hunter who teaches history and civilization to our homeschooling, like, high schoolers. We also have an attorney who teaches logic. He teaches debate. He's in New York City. So it's like—they're all of these professionals that are homeschooling their own children, but also sharing of themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2657.0,2714.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So, what we have is like a co-op that meets maybe once a week or twice a week. And they actually have a formal, how would you say, a formal curriculum for the kids so that they can follow and have a complete course of work, yet also be able to explore maybe their interests. So my daughter, like I said, was able to fence competitively, was able to shoot archery competitively and was able to cycle competitively. And through those opportunities, she was able to meet people that she probably would not have met. Like, some of her best friends are from Ohio and Pennsylvania and Maryland. And some of my friends too are also from those places because parents—we talked to each other. And there's just so much opportunity to learn—in the city, outside the city, in other cities—that we just continued until she finished high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2714.0,2776.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And then, she's in college. She's about finishing now, so—sometimes I feel maybe there was something I've missed, but then I think as a parent, you always feel you miss something. Like, maybe I should have made her learn how to sew, or she should've gone to Chinese school, right? It would be natural, but the skill sets that she has, I'm so proud of, and those are her pursuits. She enjoys writing. She's a—I don't know, she's very good mechanically. I don't even know how to describe it. She can build and rebuild things. She can repair things. I just—some people are just, I think, naturally wired to do that. But, I don't know that we would have discovered that because—I don't know. But like I said, I'm—no regrets. No regrets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2776.0,2838.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So through her, I was able to learn so much more too, and also learn more about how and what the young people think. And the reason we homeschooled was just because I wanted to give her opportunity to learn whatever she wanted to, at her pace. And she just gobbled everything up. She just ate everything up. So I'm so proud of her. I think I'm exhausted, but yeah [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2838.0,2864.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So, I understand that maybe when you were ready for the whole, let's say first grade, second, third, and then you go to school and take the exams? And then you [unclear] you're done the first, second, third, fourth grade?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2864.0,2879.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: There are assessment exams. There's a program, Seton Hall—it's not called Seton Hall—Seton Services. I think it's called Seton Services. They have an assessment exam for every grade that either I can administer myself or a group—if we had a homeschool co-op, like in Queens, [there's] a Queens co-op, homeschool cooperative. There would be a panel of parents and all of the children would come to a room, like a recreational center, and they would all sit and be proctored and they would take an exam. And then the exams will be sealed and sent in to Seton Services.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2879.0,2916.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: They would grade and just assess based on the answers how well they've learned, let's say third grade math, English Language Arts, reading comprehension—I'm trying to remember what else was on the exam—computation. First it was arithmetic and computation—like, how well you are able to do those things. And then of course we can take SAT and SAT subject exams and ACTs [also known as American College Testing] and all of those things. Anything that's national, we're able to apply and register for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2916.0,2954.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So other than that, the assessment is something that we would do in compliance with New York State Law. And it's very strict in New York State. Other states are not as strict about the guidelines of what and how many hours of study that each child has to fulfill to receive—it's not an equivalency, but their certification that they finished high school in New York State. So, it was a long journey, but it went fast. That's [unclear] say. It went fast.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2954.0,2989.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: How [unclear] fast?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2989.0,2989.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: When you're inside of it, it's like—it's all-consuming, because I'm worried about her math, I'm worried about her language skills, I'm worried about science, I'm worried about social studies, I'm worried about a language component. And then there are other things, like history, that you have to make sure that she, how would you say, is proficient for New York State purposes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=2989.0,3019.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So again, like I said, sometimes we share that responsibility. So I'd have someone else teach it. And then now—these days you can actually pay a teacher. It's hard to explain, but it's basically like you're paying for the class, but the teacher will sign off and say, yes, your student had so many hours of social studies this week for eight weeks or ten weeks or twelve weeks and fulfills the requirement for New York State for that particular subject for this particular year in your daughter or your son's schooling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3019.0,3058.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So it's become more formalized, I guess you would say. Because there are some homeschoolers that are very, very strict. You know, you have to have music. You have to have art. You have to have science. You have to have English, history, language, math, extra math, and it could—it can consume you. Honestly, it can consume you. And then, like I said, my daughter decided that she enjoyed sports. And I said, I can't deny her that. So we just went with it. And like I said, it went fast. It didn't seem like it was going fast while it was happening, but once it was over, it was just over. So [laughs]—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3058.0,3100.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So probably instead of twelve years, it takes about nine, eight years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3100.0,3105.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Actually, if you wanted to, you could actually complete it in nine years, nine or ten years, because—we taught through summer. Because it didn't make sense for us to—why should we stop? So we would continue teaching and she would take college credits while she was in high school. But it's a matter of how much and or how little you wanted to get done. Because, when it comes right down to it, after high school, everyone's path kind of goes a different way. And when you change majors in college—I mean, everyone does—when you change majors, you step back, you go forward, you step back, you go forward. Some people [are] on five-year programs for their masters. Some people take eight years. Some people take ten years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3105.0,3157.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So whatever it takes, it's based on the person and what they're able to handle at the time. And there should be no, how would you say, there should be no discrimination against any person who's actually accomplished, because it's all yours. The knowledge is yours, and it will be a matter of how you use it and share it and, yeah, make it happen for other people too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3157.0,3186.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Because at the end of the day, you have to feel satisfied that you put the time into the education so that you could be able to contribute something to someone. Because it's not just to get a degree, get a degree, get a degree. It's to be able to fulfill that promise that you can provide something for someone else, you know? So it's like a full circle. And so education, I think it just goes on and on and on and on. And like I said, it's just wonderful. We're in New York City. Everything is here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3186.0,3226.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So there are no regrets whatsoever, homeschooling?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3226.0,3235.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: No. Yes and no. Well, no. But as I said, I always second guess myself that I could have done more or I could have done something differently. But—and I think it's, I always think it's me, but then I talked to other parents and they feel the same. Like, if they have two, three, four children, they feel even worse than I do. I have one. They're like, oh my goodness, I couldn't give my second child cuz I had to take my first child, and the third child couldn't go to this practice because the first, second child were at this practice and they were at chess club or at orchestra and I couldn't get them this, this, because the schedule didn't work. And I'm like, oh my goodness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3235.0,3273.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: But yeah, no regrets because I think everything turned out well. But I always think that there could have been something more I could have done. And I think that's just nature, by nature, you think you could always do something better in hindsight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3273.0,3290.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Okay. I think we are coming to—okay. Do you think that if you wanted to do something, whatever you have done, you have done differently now in your life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3290.0,3307.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: I might've started volunteering earlier. Maybe. I don't know. It's hard to say. I might've taken more time for myself, I think, to develop, I don't know, whatever it is that I wanted to do. Because I spend a lot of time with my family, taking care of my parents. Yeah, so—but then I have no regrets because if I didn't, I would feel regretful now that I didn't help my parents out when the time was needed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3307.0,3346.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So, yeah, there's some balancing act, but everything is okay. You know, we made it through the rough patches. Hopefully there are no more rough patches going forward. 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What would you do differently?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3384.0,3386.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: I would teach—I gave them all my time, 24/7, even more than that—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3386.0,3394.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yes [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3394.0,3394.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: —that's for sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3394.0,3394.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3394.0,3394.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So I was thinking that [unclear] to learn English and colleges and education and school, everything, I missed out on teaching them my language.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3394.0,3408.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yep [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3408.0,3408.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Which is—languages are very, very important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3408.0,3415.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: They are. They are. We know that now too. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3415.0,3418.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Yes. So that is the first thing I will do differently. If you asked me that maybe I need to give them more time, I couldn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3418.0,3427.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3427.0,3427.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: All of my time was spent—30 hours a day, 40 hours [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3427.0,3438.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yes, exactly. [unclear].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3438.0,3438.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So that's what my regret is, so that's why I was asking. So you answered that. And, is there any life lessons that you have learned from your life up until now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3438.0,3454.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Maybe, like I said, to invest more in myself, and probably in hindsight to be more outspoken about certain things that were rightfully mine. Sometimes—as my mother, because my mother is very, how should I say, my mother always defers to my dad. And I—maybe it's the culture. Maybe it's the way she was brought up. Maybe, again, that's the way I was brought up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3454.0,3489.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: I was—like when we were married, when my husband and I married, they were like, we're not expecting anything from you because now you belong to your husband's family. So if we need anything, we'll get it from my brother, my younger brother, cuz he's the boy in the family. But as it turned out, my parents leaned heavily on me. I'm the eldest and I'm a daughter, but I was always available because my brother was more involved with his wife's family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3489.0,3520.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So, I think I probably would've stepped up more and spoken up more for myself. And again, it was difficult because as a woman growing up, that really wasn't our place and that wasn't our—that wasn't the expectation. So a lot of people wouldn't even listen because I was a woman and that wasn't—my voice wasn't as important as a man's voice. So I probably would have tried to learn earlier to be more confident and more outspoken. So, I mean, that's the only thing that I can think of because it would have changed a lot of things. I'd be in a different place right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3520.0,3567.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Yeah. I'm not outspoken for sure [laughter]. Did you have any plans for—you already answered that—but do you still have any plans for advancement in your life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3567.0,3585.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Oh yeah, of course. Always. Like I said, we have a parks group and I work with young people and I help them find community service opportunities. So I help them find volunteer work, which just, I don't know, it fulfills me because I'm able to give them opportunities that I couldn't find. When I was younger, like, if I wanted to do community service, I would have to go to the guidance counselor. Guidance counselor would have to find something for us and we would have to be able to be directed to and then make arrangements, make appointments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3585.0,3621.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: But these days, I'm able to work, like, I collaborate with other people and I asked, do you have opportunities for our kids to volunteer at the—I don't know. Like, they're having a campaign. Do you need volunteers? Do you need volunteers—like, because I'm involved with cycling, if there's a race or if there's a bike tour, I'll ask, \"Do you need young people to help with registration?\" So that's something I do. So going forward, I'm just hoping to grow the network of people that will help our kids.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3621.0,3656.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Because sometimes our kids—they're so busy studying, they're so busy working that they forget to pursue the volunteer opportunity. And from what I understand in the schools now, they need a minimum number of hours of volunteer service to graduate. So right now it's May. They're calling now. They're like, I need to do a service. I need 25 hours of service before June or before May so I can graduate, or I can become Arista, or I can become Key Club or I can get a special honor at graduation. So that's something that I'm working on. We've been working on that for about three years. So hopefully, like, we're looking five-year plans, I have another two years on my five-year plan. And hopefully it'll get better, but I think 2020, we lost a year. So I'm not sure yet. We'll see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3656.0,3711.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Yeah, yeah, we did, but we saved, working from home, people say—some people like working from home. They don't have to get ready, get up and commute. Save money—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3711.0,3724.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Right—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3724.0,3724.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: —[unclear] so, that is a positive thing—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3724.0,3729.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yes—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3729.0,3730.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: —that people—so you answered that one. Well, I forgot to ask you, you live in Queens, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3730.0,3742.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yep. I live in Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3742.0,3742.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: And its a diverse community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3742.0,3744.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Oh, yeah. Yeah, my neighbors—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3744.0,3745.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: How do you like it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3745.0,3748.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Oh, I love it. I've always loved it. Our neighbors are all different shades and ages, and now we have young families moving into the neighborhood. So, it's like a revival because, when my daughter was younger, my neighbors had—her kids were also young, but now they're all college age. So they'll be moving out or they'll be driving to work or walking or commuting to work. So it's a different atmosphere. So a lot of the seniors have moved out. Like, they've moved to Florida or they've sold their houses. So now young families are moving in because I'm in a pretty good school district. So a lot of families like to come to live here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3748.0,3795.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Diversity—on the avenue I'm close to, Northern Boulevard, so there's a lot of restaurants and bakeries and coffee shops. All kinds of different, how do you say, like, supermarkets, cultural-type supermarkets—Korean, Chinese supermarkets, bakeries. It's just restarting now. But the diversity is absolutely wonderful. So I could stop down on Northern and get—I can get sushi. I can have pizza. I can have Greek food. I can have—I'm trying to think of what else—Mexican food is on the corner there. It's just so wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3795.0,3841.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad:  Yeah. What about Thai food, Burmese food, et cetera?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3841.0,3845.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Thai food is behind me on Francis Lewis Boulevard. BK Thai is right close to us and we've been there several times, but I feel it's more, how do you say, more of a—I don't wanna say commercial. It's more—it's for the masses. I don't think it's—I mean, I believe it's authentic, but I think the tastes are for, like, the American palette. So everything tastes familiar, but I don't think as authentic as I think the Thai food could be. And I could be wrong cuz I don't—I've never had, like, true Thai food.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3845.0,3885.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Yeah. We found that out, trying different places. So we found one at Canal Street, [unclear].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3885.0,3894.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3894.0,3894.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: That was authentic and—however, it's a new owner now, so it is less now—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3894.0,3901.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: —right, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3901.0,3901.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: —[unclear]. So, I take it that you cook all kinds of American and Thai food and Chinese, Korean, all those food?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3901.0,3918.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yeah. Well, my background is Chinese, but I was born here. So most of the things I actually cook are American. My husband is a meat and potatoes type person. So I cook, how do you say, like, roast beef. He likes beef stew, he likes steak, pork chops. My daughter doesn't really like red meat, so she'll eat pork chops, but she's more chicken and fish, salmon. I don't really have a preference. I like all different kinds of foods, but they're not as daring as I am.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3918.0,3953.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Like, they're both allergic to seafood, so they won't come and have oysters with me or, I don't know, any kind of seafood, any shellfish they can't have. So I can't have it generally. So, but I mostly cook some Chinese food, like, stir fry. Maybe sometimes steam a fish or two, but mostly meat for my husband and chicken for my daughter. So roast chicken, whatever, baked chicken, any kind of chicken you can think of for my daughter. Yeah. So—but I like to bake. So I like baking cheesecakes and brownies and cookies. Yeah, things like that, cuz I just concentrate on that, wait, concentrate and that's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=3953.0,4008.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever see yourself moving out of Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4008.0,4019.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: You know, I've never thought about it. I grew up in Brooklyn, so I lived there, and then when I was away at school I lived in Philadelphia and that was fun. But then again, I was in a college setting, so it wasn't like me living-living there. When we moved to Queens, we finally had our own house. So we didn't have, like, neighbors up, down, side, elevator, garbage compactor, all these things. So, I really enjoy it here because we have access to public transportation. Like, I'm near the bus. I'm near the railroad. I'm not as close to the subway, but I do drive. So I'm near the highways. I'm near the LIE [Long Island Expressway], the Grand Central [Parkway], the Van Wyck [Expressway]. I'm near all the major highways so that I can get to and from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4019.0,4066.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: If I needed to go to Long Island or go to Brooklyn or go to even the Bronx, it's really a short trip. So living here has been great because—like, we've discussed the diversity. The accessibility, because I could just walk to the market. I can even walk to the post office. I can walk to my library. I don't need the car unless I had to—like, just really, really needed it. It's been wonderful because I've been able to take my daughter to different places and, I guess, take my parents to different places to shop and, like, see things that we didn't get to see. Cuz when we were younger—my parents don't drive, so we never had a car. So we had to rely on taxi cabs and other family members to drive us from where we lived in Brooklyn. So we didn't see a lot when we were younger.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4066.0,4121.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Yeah. But, well, you are different than I am now cuz I've been living here for—since 1987.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4121.0,4131.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Ah, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4131.0,4134.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: In Queens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4134.0,4134.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Right. So that's—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4134.0,4135.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: We used to live in Manhattan before that, and West Indies, et cetera. And I still—I love it over here, but I feel like that there are more things that I want to experience, more places.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4135.0,4150.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4150.0,4153.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So I don't know where I will be later in—whatever the life brings at me, I'm happy, whatever it is. So tell me, how do you feel about retiring?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4153.0,4168.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: That's funny. Well, I don't think I'm ever going to retire because I need interaction. Like, it drives me and I like seeing people and talking to people. So even if it's in a volunteer capacity, I'm more than happy to spend my, whatever, money to travel, to commute, to be someplace. So, I don't think I'll ever retire. I'll always want to be engaged in something because sometimes I think if we let our minds rest—it's not constantly learning something or doing something—that we just kind of atrophy. We kind of just fall back. You just get lazy and you don't want to get up. You don't want to get up and move.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4168.0,4220.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So, like, I like doing word games and puzzles. Yeah, those kinds of things. If there was some other person that would engage with me, I would play, like, board games with them, but it takes so much time and everyone is so busy these days. Because, I remember in college, my husband and I used to play cards with our friends all the time—hearts, spades, whatever it was. But that was something that we engaged in. It was fun, it was inexpensive, but it was, like, a little bit challenging, maybe, maybe not, but it was something to do to pass the time. And it wasn't—it didn't mean we had to spend, I don't know, a million dollars just to have a good time. So—there'll always be something. There'll always be something to do, so we'll never retire [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4220.0,4273.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So do you see yourself—where do you see yourself in from now to five to ten years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4273.0,4283.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Well, hopefully, five to ten years—I don't know. Like, there's some projects that I've been thinking about. Maybe write—one of the other members of our cohort mentioned something about writing. So that's something that I've always thought I could do, like, write a book or write a memoir just to capture some of the experiences that I've had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4283.0,4311.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Because—the randomness of things. Sometimes things just happen because you agree to go with someone to something that you didn't want to do. And then, you don't want to regret it, right? You get there and then you find something positive happens. And, it's like, you just never know. So nowadays, if I decide to do something, it's a hundred percent. When I'm finished, I come home and then, okay, now let me sit and think about it. What impact was there? But the thing is, you can't take the experience away from me now. It's mine. And that's what I tell my daughter. People can suggest that they know certain things, but they can't take away her experiences. So if she's met you several times and met somebody else several times, she has that and that's hers. She owns that. And then whatever she learns from it, develops from it, she'll grow with it. You just can't take that away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4311.0,4374.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: I think one of my English teachers said something like that to us, that sometimes when we write it down we'll remember and we'll be able to grab onto it again. Because sometimes you forget. There are good times and there are bad times. Sometimes people just wipe away all the bad times, but sometimes you need that bad time to push that good time, so that you appreciate. And you realize that, I don't know, maybe there was, like you say, was there a message? Does that mean that, okay, now I have to take a different direction for the next two years, three years, four years? Because pandemic, I don't know, maybe that was a big message [laughs]. We gotta do something different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4374.0,4415.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: So, I'm just hoping that step-by-step going forward, that the next five years, or in five years, that we'll be clear of the virus. People can, more or less, go about their business as they did before, but with more compassion and concern for each other and not be so judgmental. Like, before anybody has even said a word, people have already read you and said, this is what you were thinking. Don't think that. That we just become more, I don't know, more human. I don't know if that makes any sense, more human. But, you know, like what we're supposed to be, like they write about in the children's books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4415.0,4459.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Well, people also say things to me too, say we are suffering this pandemic because we did something and God is punishing us—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4459.0,4470.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4470.0,4470.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: —but I don't have—I cannot ask them, what is it that we did?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4470.0,4477.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yeah. Yeah—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4477.0,4480.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: I can't ask them. And then they just simply say, oh, you did—I don't know what they're going to tell me. But I honestly don't think that—this pandemic, things have happened before to other generations, and this is our time. Like Spanish Flu and SARS or things like this, they happen before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4480.0,4502.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4502.0,4504.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So this is our turn now, I think, and we gonna conquer it too. They are doing all [unclear]—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4504.0,4509.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4509.0,4509.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: —to protect us and come up with the new medications and the [unclear] and this and that to—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4509.0,4518.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4518.0,4518.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: —keep you out of the hospital or delay your stay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4518.0,4523.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Right, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4523.0,4523.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: I mean, shorten your stay in the hospital and things like this. And now this summer things are looking good, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4523.0,4536.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yeah. I'm just hoping people are still as cautious and as mindful of other people because, yeah, people are wanting to get out. I mean, there's so much more traffic outside. There's so many more people on the street walking, running, laughing, which is wonderful. But hopefully we're also gonna be as considerate, and I'm afraid it may be a little bit crazy for a little bit, and then hopefully it'll settle down and then we'll get through all of this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4536.0,4567.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Everyone will get vaccinated or be safe from the virus so that we can figure out what it is and how we can treat those that have effects after this. There's no— it's unknown now, right? How people have been affected if they survive COVID. Cuz I have several friends who have survived and they're afraid to go out at all. They don't know what the second round will be. So—and I totally understand. We're all a little older, concerned about our families. So it's a lot to think about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4567.0,4600.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Yeah, the other countries are suffering even more than us and people are dying every day and God knows how they're gonna do. And, you know, they're getting outside help from—different countries are helping them. Like, I'm talking about India over here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4600.0,4619.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4619.0,4621.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: This is there fault or something? So, they are helping. And in the beginning, we didn't know what that is and how to protect ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4621.0,4633.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4633.0,4634.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: They were saying, like, it's airborne also, so you can't go out. And [it] was very hard for the doctors to explain to people, the public—how to explain it to them that you have to be careful. They were not prepared to follow all the directions, and then they were just spreading more and more. And then it became the law that you have to where the mask and keep distance and wash your hands, this and that. And now people are following it and we are getting at the better place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4634.0,4673.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4673.0,4675.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So, thank God. I hope it stays. Summer is gonna be okay, but I don't know what's going to happen in the winter though again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4675.0,4686.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4686.0,4686.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: So, I take it you order a lot of food online and everything, shopping?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4686.0,4696.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: We go out. I mean, we go out to actually buy the food. Like, we would get up, six in the morning, five in the morning, to go food shopping for the special senior hour. My—I would drag my daughter with me, because I wanted to see something. So we would walk to the market, wait for it to open, and that was like the highlight of the week to do that. And then bring it home. Then you cook.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4696.0,4726.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: And like I said, Thursday is pizza night. So that night, everyone walks down to the pizza shop, says hello to the owner. They know the order or they give them the order and then it comes home. And if we don't show up on a Thursday, they wonder if something happened to us. So, yeah. I don't like ordering online because I was afraid because of COVID—because I don't know about the delivery person. It's, like, the things you think you don't know. So we wouldn't do that. We—we're not, like, Door Dash, Uber Eats, none of that stuff. We'll go out and get our food. We'll go out and buy the food and cook the food. Yeah. Even any kind of take out, we'll go out to pick it up. We'll call it in and then we'll go pick it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4726.0,4771.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Yeah. So—and wash everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4771.0,4774.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4774.0,4774.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Every single—sanitize, wash it with soap.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4774.0,4779.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Yep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4779.0,4779.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: I still do. I still do a lot of—like, milk, vegetable, fruit and stuff. The bags coming out of the store and put it away. I have a special room outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4779.0,4798.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Oh, really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4798.0,4798.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: I put everything over there. Nobody's visiting you, so—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4798.0,4802.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: That's true. That's true [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4802.0,4802.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: —I just have that room and I put everything over there. And the mail and things that don't go bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4802.0,4813.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leona Chin: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891#t=4813.0,4813.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/166430/file/302891/transcript/90123/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nasreen Muhammad: Clothes. So, I let it sit for a few days over there and then I bring it and [unclear]. 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