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And today's date is May 21st -- um, I'm sorry -- May 12th, 2021. This interview is being recorded for the Queens Memory Project. Hello, Dominique, how are you doing today?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=0.0,21.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Hi, Eileen. I'm doing good. Wonderful, beautiful day. How about you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=21.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Doing well, thank you very much. Looking forward to, um, doing the project, working with the project with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=26.0,36.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Me too, me too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=36.0,36.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: I wanted to start off, um, asking you, um, how you came to Queens, how long you've been living in Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=36.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Wow. So I came to Queens when I was 10 years old, when my parents immigrated to the United States. And, um, originally they went to New Orleans where my mother's sister lived, and we stayed back in Haiti. And then a year after being here, they moved to Elmhurst. Uh, and once they settled down in Elmhurst, where there, that was a big Haitian community...um, my father's sister lived there and so many other Haitians lived there. And then they brought all of, me and all of my sisters, five of us, to join them in Elmhurst. And it was December. I remember, right before Christmas, and we came and there was a huge snow storm. It was the most exciting thing for people from the islands. We had never seen snow and the snow must've been up to my waist! But, um, so that's how we came. When I was a young girl, I stayed there for a few years, went to junior, to elementary and then junior high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=47.0,112.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: And then when it was time for us to go to high school, we moved away from that neighborhood. Um, because my father was working upstate New York, and it was a very long commute for him. He was a French teacher. So then he, uh, he moved a little closer, midway between Queens and, um, Westchester, where he worked in a town called Hastings-on-Hudson. And, uh, we stayed there until my father retired and my parents, when they retired, moved back to Queens, um, to where, um, other relatives lived. And, uh, at that time I went back to Haiti for a while. And then after getting a few years in Haiti, I actually ended up coming back to Queens and that's where I've been ever since. My children grew up in Queens and I still am here in Queens. But that's how I got there. I love it. It's home. All of our family lives here, sisters, cousins, aunts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=112.0,181.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: You're very lucky to have all your family there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=181.0,186.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yeah, it's nice because we have that tradition of having extended family gatherings. So when we get together, it's not just sisters and children, it's cousins and the whole extended family. So we kept that tradition and it is nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=186.0,202.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: That's great. So when you, when you became an adult, I know, um, you, uh, you finished college and you had a degree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=202.0,213.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes, I -- strangely, my first degree was in sociology, which is kind of a, a field that really it's hard to find work. So when I got my degree in sociology, I did all different types of jobs. You know, at that time, women all learned how to be a type -- we all knew how to type. Uh, and so from the time I was in school, I would always do part-time work. While I was going to college, I worked at Alexander's. You may not remember that department store, which was close to the school. So we would go like part-time after school. And then from there, I also worked with a, through the school, with a public relations firm, which was very close to the school. And there, I learned a lot of basic skills, how to answer the phone. So, um, in that sense, I never really used my sociology degree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=213.0,269.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: And, um, I, after working a few years, I decided to go back and get a master's in education. Because at that time there were lot of Haitian immigrants coming to the U.S., and they were looking for bilingual teachers. And so they were giving out scholarships to anybody who wanted to be in the Haitian Creole bilingual program. So I went back and got two more years of schooling. And the strange thing is that -- I was in my mid-20s -- but the strange thing is that when I finished, um, I said, I'm going to go home for vacation. I had never been back to Haiti, and I went for vacation and would you know, I met a man and, uh, ended up getting married to the man and moving back to Haiti. Uh, and that was not part of the plan really, but that's what happened. So I, I never really ended up teaching because I went back home for a few years. So, never even got my teaching license.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=269.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: And how did you wind up in Queens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=330.0,333.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yeah. So then, after being married a few years, what happened is that I was basically very American. I had been brought up here and him, my ex-husband, was very, very traditional, macho, kind of, uh, you know, West Indies kind of a person. So I found that, um, it was very hard for me to really stay after a few years. Um, for all those reasons that, you know, he expected me to be a certain type of person and, and I was very independent. I had been raised to work for myself. He didn't want me to work, and eventually it did not work out. So I had two children, and my children were accustomed to coming to New York because every summer I would send them here and they would get, their aunties would take them out. So I said, OK, that's it, I have to go back. I cannot stay here. I went back to be with my parents. And as soon as I got back here, I found a job right away and, uh, that's how I ended up here, because my sisters, everyone lived in Queens. So I ended up back to Queens, in Queens. And like I said, I was very fortunate because I did have those secretarial skills. So as soon as I came back, I called the temp agency and I started to temp, and temping here, temping there. And eventually one of those temp positions, I very much liked the firm. And I ended up staying at the firm and, um, [aside] what's going on here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=333.0,431.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: And you were there for your whole career?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=431.0,434.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: And I pretty much stayed there for 25 years. Yes. It was a very, very nice firm because it wasn't a huge firm, like a lot of these banks. It was an investment bank, and a lot of them are very big, but this one was a small, maybe I would say 600 employees, so midsize. And, um, everyone was just so pleasant. Everyone just helped each other. It was a different time, you know? And because we were dealing with wealthy clients, it was all about customer service. It was all about, you know, making people feel like, you know, we're there for them. So when I went there, I ended up moving from department to department. First, I was in the new business department and I worked for the head of that department as his assistant. And I would say, not even six months later, they decided they were going to open an office in Hong Kong. And my boss was going to be the one to move to Hong Kong. So I said, oh my goodness, I just got this job. And now what? And so before he left to go to Hong Kong, fortunately for me, he went and sat in a new office so that he could give his old office to the person who was going to replace him. And when he went to the new office, I went with him to a different floor. This was in the World Trade Center, by the way. So we were, from the 95th floor we moved down to the 94th floor, and we sat right next to the chairman and the CEO's office. And as a result of that, I would, I would help out with the chairman and CEO because his secretary would step away or whatever, I would answer his phone. So fortunately for me, when my boss left, um, maybe a month or so later, they asked me if I would like to replace the executive secretary, because she was going to retire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=434.0,551.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: I said, oh, God is good. I was fortunate. And so I became the executive assistant for the chairman. And, um, I worked with him for many years. Wonderful man. And, uh, when he got ready to retire, he said, oh, I want to make sure before I retire that I find a good position for you. And he found a position, maybe a month or two before he retired, in the custody department of the bank. So that's custody, meaning that we don't invest money for the clients. We just take care of, like, the assets, we hold the assets. Now, mind you, I didn't know much about banking, but I knew how to be a good customer service. I knew how to answer the phones and how to make the clients happy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=551.0,596.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: So I got into the custody department for a few years and, uh, 9/11 came, right? And so the, uh, we all had no place to go because the building came down, as you know, and there was a bit of restructure. And, um, then I, I heard that they were going to send some of the functions to, um, India. So, um, I kind of lost my job for like two months, because we didn't want to, they also sent some of the functions to Florida, but I had children and I couldn't move to Florida. So I lost my job. And then one of my clients called up the firm -- this is why it's good to be nice to people -- and complained, like, why did you let her go? And then they called me back! So I got my job back two months later. And when I went back, um, I didn't get the exact same job, but they put me in a different department, uh, they put me in the investment department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=596.0,667.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Investment department -- I did not know anything at all about stocks or bonds or investments. I knew nothing. I never had enough money to invest. My parents never had money to invest. So I remember the person I was working for saying, oh, you're going to have to learn about finance. So, uh, OK. I will learn about finance. So eventually, as I continued working with her for many years, I learned about finance. 'Cause I would have to meet when, when the clients would come in to meet with the portfolio manager, she would introduce me to them. And, uh, so slowly and surely it was, it was interesting. Uh, so I did that for a few years and eventually, um, there, one, one of the supervisors was, was retiring and my own boss, the portfolio manager I supported, she asked me, she says, why don't you apply for that? Because you have, um, she probably knew that I had a degree in education, and she was very pleasant. And I said, oh, I, not me. I don't, I don't, I don't qualify for that. But strangely enough, one of the requirements was that you have, um, like I think a master's or I forget what all the requirements were. But when I looked, I applied and I got the position and I became a supervisor for all the administrative assistants, which involves, you know, procedures and involves, you know, training and hiring. And I found that to be also very, very enjoyable and very rewarding because I got to really train the new hires and, you know, show them how to please the clients. And I did that until I retired. I met a lot of wonderful people over the years, some of my good, best friends from the job, it was kind of sad to see some of the people that I had worked with so many years retire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=667.0,787.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: So I felt at a certain point that there was more new crew of people. I hardly knew any of the employees, all the old-timers had left. And there were a lot of young people, and the technology was constantly changing in the past few years because, you know, as we're moving into this age of technology, it became very, very -- constant change. So, um, it was a lot to keep up with, you know, and I told myself at one point, maybe you are a little slow. Because all of the people I was supervising were in their, maybe 30s, uh, maybe early 40s. And they were very much, they knew the technology. And so anytime something new came up, they would pick it up very quickly. And I started to feel as if I was slower than most of the people that I supervised. So I kind of like started to feel like maybe it's time for me to think about retiring. Then came COVID. And also my mom was injured. There was that whole dilemma of, I need to be there for my mom. So I left just this past year during COVID and 2020. 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I didn't want to stay home all the time, even though I have to be there for my mom, but I also wanted something to get me out of the house. I was afraid if I stay home in the winter all day, I would get depressed, because that's what tends to happen when the days are dark and it's cold and you don't get out, you don't see people. So I, uh, I wanted to find like a part-time job, just -- or volunteer, really. I, at first I wasn't thinking about the money, I was just saying to myself, something to get me out of the house. And I like to be around with anybody, but I especially love to be around kids. So something said to me, well, maybe you should try the school next door, because we happen to have a religious school next door, to see if they need a part-time employee. And so I called and it was around September, just about the time that school was about to open. And fortunately for me, because of COVID, they were looking for aides to watch the children during recess, who can take them outside to play and also make sure that they follow the rules, do not touch each other. And that they wear the mask, which is kind of difficult, because they're third graders and fourth graders, so they tend to like, when they're playing, they tend to forget to wear the mask or forget that they're not supposed to touch each other. So that was the job, basically. Um, and it was, it turned out, they were paying. So it was even better that I was -- it's not much, but they're paying, I said, I could always use the extra, right? So, um, I've been doing that since September, but it's only for two hours, during, from 11 to 1. So it works out for me 'cause I have the mornings to help my mom get dressed and eat. And then when I come back from there, it's my time to read or exercise, or I love to go outside to the parks. So I still have a lot of time to relax and, you know, watch TV a little bit. So I've been enjoying my retirement very much. Eventually I'll be able to travel, hopefully.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=870.0,1008.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: I see that. I know you like the botanical gardens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1008.0,1011.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Oh yeah. I love, I have a thing for nature, you know -- I mean, I guess we all do because that's when we feel, you know, that we're connected to the universe. So I do love the botanical garden. Actually at a certain point, I lived next door to the [Queens] Botanical Garden. Remember when I came back from Haiti, I had a sister who lived in Flushing, downtown Flushing, right next to the garden, and she was, she had two bedrooms. So it worked out for her. I moved in with her, with my two children. So I would take the kids -- she had a daughter and I had two kids. I, we would take the kids always to play at the botanical garden because it's got a vast area where the kids can run. And so it became like their second home, because there wasn't really a park closer to us. It was literally two blocks from us. So that was our park in a sense. And at that time there was no, there were no gates because it was before 9/11. So it wasn't, it was open. You could enter from any street, and they grew up there. So, um, now it's changed a bit. Now they have the gate, and you actually, now they even charge a small fee. I think it's $2 to go in, uh, not all year 'round; but certain times it is still free, but certain times you have to pay, and they've added, you know, some buildings to it. So it's a little -- the gardens are beautiful. There's a section that's just flowers and roses. And so I love it. I do, I do love walking there and I take pictures of the flowers. It's just, they also have these beautiful benches with beautiful sayings on them. Like one of them might say, come sit and relax and enjoy the day. And -- a very inviting place to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1011.0,1121.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Was that, was that what you envision your retirement to be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1121.0,1126.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes, because I love outdoors. I just love rivers. I love the ocean. And, um, in the summer you can either find me at the ocean or by a river, because something about being by the water, that's just...In the morning, I like to see the sunrise, if I can get there early enough. Or in the evening, um, when I was working, I would go, I would come home and I would tell my youngest daughter, who was still home with me, let's go by the beach and we would go and watch the sunset. Other times I would go with a book. I would go by myself. I'm fine doing things on my own and just sit by the water, by the ocean. So I do, I do love to be, um, I like peace, I guess. I just like a peaceful place. I do want to travel. Um, my sister and I, since she's also retired, we were actually planning to travel. Last year before COVID we had booked a trip to Hawaii. I've never been there. I always wanted to go there. And unfortunately, that didn't happen because of COVID, but maybe next year we'll start traveling. So there's a lot to see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1126.0,1201.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Definitely. How has COVID affected you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1201.0,1207.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Uh, well, for me, because I do like to go out, um, it has been a bit tough. Um, but I, it hasn't really stopped me from going places. Some people are afraid, like my sisters would say, oh, like, why are you going to work? Because remember the school was open. It was one of the few schools that, because it's private, uh, was having in-person learning. And I would say, well, I enjoy it. And I, I don't mind, I don't think I'm going to catch COVID, but they thought like, it was very dangerous and I shouldn't go to work, but I felt that if I take the precautions -- I would wear gloves, I would wear the mask. And I'm kind of an optimist. I never think of the negative, but they call me Pollyanna, because I never think anything bad is going to happen. I would say, well, why do you have to think that you're going to catch COVID? I'm taking all my precautions, so I would still go out and do everything that I want to do. The only thing is, of course, you couldn't travel, which was a bit of a, an annoyance. But other than that, I haven't let it stop me from taking my walks or doing anything. Uh, at one point we had to work from home before I retired. That I didn't like, I really did not like working at home. First of all, I didn't have the proper space because I live in an apartment and, you know, I was saying, where am I going to put my desk? I had to find a very small -- because I don't have a huge apartment -- a very small little table that I could squeeze in, in one, in my bedroom, in my bedroom, because my daughter, at that time, she had school and she was using the living room, dining/living room area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1207.0,1306.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: And you know, when I'm in meetings all day, I couldn't be in the same area as her. So she was using the main living area, and I had to use the bedroom, my bedroom. Uh, and so, um, it was awkward. I used to work very long hours. I would start early and I would end sometimes way past bedtime. And my husband would be going to bed because he's an early bird and I would still be on the computer. So the lights would be out in the bedroom and I would still be working. I didn't like that. And I didn't have, like, a good chair because when we went to the office, we had all the right equipment, the desk that goes up and down, so you can stand, you can sit. It was a very modern office. It had, um, it was the open floor plan, you know, how all the desks are open, so you can see everyone? It wasn't private. After a certain -- before we used to have private, but they, they opened it up, like every place else, so...but they had the kind of desks that if you wanted to stand for a bit, you could stand. If you wanted to sit, you could sit. So that, I got used to that comfort of having the good desk, good chair. And then at home, all of a sudden, I had a hard chair. I didn't have, you know, the space. So that was another reason why I...most people enjoyed it, you know, working from home, because they saved on the commute. But for me, I liked being around people and I didn't like it. So it kind of helped me to make my decision to retire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1306.0,1398.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: And what do you see in the future for yourself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1398.0,1402.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Wow, that's a good question. You know, because I know I won't always be, uh, you know, busy with my mom. And so I think about that. What do I want to do? Like in a few years? Uh, so I love reading. I also love writing. So I used to tell myself when I was young, that I was going to write a book, but now I don't know that my head is sharp enough to do that. Um, but I write for myself, you know, sometimes I could write a poem or I could just write in my journal. So I do enjoy reading and writing a lot. Uh, I also think that if I could maybe do English as a second language, this is something that I had studied, you know, bilingual education. And if, if, if I can find that type of work on a part-time basis, that might be some option for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1402.0,1460.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Um, I like volunteering. I think that a lot of the young kids that I was hiring, I was noticing that a lot of them did not really have a good command of English grammar. Uh, so like if they had to write an email -- I'm very, very particular about like writing the old-fashioned way, with proper punctuation and all of those things that we learned, you know? I think a lot of the kids, because they're using email, they're using text messages, so they don't always have that, how would you say, proper business language skills, the writing skills. So I think that that is an area where, uh, I could help maybe teach high school kids, especially in certain neighborhoods, right? There are certain, uh, if you go to good schools, maybe you're getting that basic English grammar and basic writing skills. But if you go to a school where maybe they're not as, uh, as, I don't know, as, um, well-endowed? I don't know, some schools have more money, more funds, more help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1460.0,1532.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: So I think that certain communities...And also maybe the children are coming from homes where no one is saying, oh, that's not the proper way to say that -- because I would constantly tell my younger employees, don't be offended, but you don't answer people like that. You -- the better way to say it is like, you don't say \"yeah\" when you're in, when you're in an office setting, you say \"yes.\" You know, so little slang things that a lot of kids are accustomed to using, when they get into the corporate world, they realize that can stop you from being promoted. It's not that you can't say it, but if you want to be promoted and you want to aspire to better jobs, then you have a better command of how to speak and write that will help you. And so I think that that's an area that I, I would like to help the young, high schoolers or maybe junior high schoolers get that command of English language, corporate English.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1532.0,1596.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: You also mentioned that you want to go on a cruise with your sister.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1596.0,1601.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes. Yes. You know, I always dreamed of going to the Polynesian islands. I remember when I saw Marlon Brando in the movie Mutiny on the Bounty; of course, that's way back. But if he had, he, I think he had fell in love with one of those beautiful Tahitian women with the flower in her hair. And I always, oh, I would love to go to Tahiti and Hawaii. And so this cruise that we were taking was going to take us from Hawaii to the Polynesian islands -- you know, Bora, Bora, Tahiti -- and I said, oh, this is my dream. And I don't know if I'll be able to do it when I get older because you know, the body may not have the stamina. So I want to do it as soon as I can. And so I think we're going to do it. I would've done it this year, but my sister's still too nervous. She wants to wait another year until COVID is under control before we go on the cruise, but that's going to be my, my dream.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1601.0,1665.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: That sounds wonderful. So, you've had a very interesting and exciting life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1665.0,1673.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Well, I don't know about exciting, but, but I've done a lot of different things. I have, I have, yeah. It's been fun. It's been a lot of fun and it's only beginning, right? Now is when we can really do what we want because the kids are grown. I still have one daughter who's almost finished college, she's in her last year. But, um, it was all about my three children. So now it's about enjoying the things that, you know, we weren't able to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1673.0,1703.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: And you have, and you have your family nearby. So that's...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1703.0,1707.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes. It's wonderful that my sisters are also retired so we can do things together. My husband, my husband doesn't enjoy -- well, he enjoys traveling, but always home. He always wants to go to the Caribbean, and he doesn't have the same love of going to other places that I -- my sisters and I, we want to see all the places, anywhere that we haven't been. But him, he's very content going to the same place every year. So, um, I leave him and I go with my sisters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1707.0,1743.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: That's great. It's good that you could have some traveling companions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1743.0,1747.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes. And I have my daughters, they also love to travel. They love to travel. So very often I, they come along with my sisters too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1747.0,1755.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: What, what are your other daughters doing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1755.0,1758.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: One of them is working in L.A. She studied communications, uh, and she's actually coming to visit this weekend, and she, um, she's going to a wedding, not really coming to visit, but since the wedding is around here we'll see her for a bit. And then I have a son, um, him -- he actually is more of a challenge, so I don't really know what, what he's up to because he got sick, and then he wouldn't listen to me. I would try to get him to take his medications and he would not take them. And then I got a little bit like to the point where, you know, you want to be independent, but you don't want to listen to me, so therefore he kind of got away a little bit. So I don't really see much of him. And, um, we almost don't meet -- I mean, I would love to, but he decided that, you know, he wanted his independence, so we don't -- but he's a dear, dear one, too. He studied graphics, um, graphic design. And, um, he's very, he was always, he had a gift from the time he was young. He always knew how to draw. Kids would say to him, draw me a picture and I'll give you 50 cents. So it's like a gift for him. So he enjoys that. And then my youngest daughter, she is very passionate about politics and travel. So I keep saying to her, you should become like a correspondent, international correspondent, where you can travel and also report on politics. She is still a student. She goes to Princeton...so she should be finished soon. And she's still home. So I hope she stays home a little bit. She keeps telling me, as soon as I graduate, I'm going to go away. I said, oh my goodness. She can't wait to go away and travel. But um...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1758.0,1863.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Would you ever consider retiring to Haiti?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1863.0,1866.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Oh, you know, I love the West Indies, but the sad thing about Haiti is that it's always, it's never really been a safe country since Papa Doc. I don't know if you remember, we had a dictator many, many years, and after we ousted him, we've had so many governments come and go and we just haven't really had, uh, it's not, I feel it's not safe. I love Haiti. It's beautiful. I wish I could go every year. I said, I hope I can go next year. But now there is, there's gangs. And, and, uh, it's not safe. But, but I do -- my husband is actually from a different island, um, so, uh, he has a home, and at one point when we retire, maybe we will go there -- not the whole year, because of course our children are going to stay in the U.S., but we can at least go there during the winter. So...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1866.0,1929.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Queens is going to be your home base.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1929.0,1931.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes. It's going to be my base. That's a way of...it's always going to be my base. That's home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1931.0,1941.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: OK. Um, I, I don't, I, looking at the questions, I don't know if there was, um, anything we didn't cover. Do you, do you see anybody from your, from your company?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1941.0,1959.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Oh yes. Oh yes. Actually, I have to say that my closest friends, my best of friends, are people that I met on the job. Um, so there are really like three that I'm in touch with, I speak to every day. We were so close that their children knew my children, uh, their children and my children would go on vacation together. So they still remain very, very dear friends. And, uh, that's what I meant when I said, when they started to leave the firm, I felt that, uh, I didn't -- things changed. So all of the people that were very close to me, they retired. So, um, but three of them are still very close to me. Mother's Day, uh, I spoke to them; uh, I see them in the summer. We do things together. I have to go visit, but because of COVID, I haven't seen them the past year, but I'm definitely going to be seeing them now that we've all taken our COVID vaccine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=1959.0,2024.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: That's great, great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2024.0,2029.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yeah. So it was, it was such a nice, um -- I don't think that exists very much anymore, because I think the work environment has become, because of technology....you know, like people never stop working anymore. It used to be, you went to work at 9, you took an hour for lunch and you stopped working at 5. But I see a lot of people, even my own children, they work, work from the time they get up until the time...and then they are constantly getting emails. My daughter says it could be like 2 o'clock in the morning and her boss is still sending emails. And I told her, I said, you know, just don't answer! She, so she's learning that, you know, at some point you just have to shut off the email. Even if people send you messages, just -- you have to set a boundary at some point and said, no, I need time for my own family and for myself. But I find that a lot of the, especially in the financial industry where I was, um, the people at a certain level, they never shut their phone off. It could be 2 o'clock in the morning and they will be sending emails. And that's the reality of technology, right? You have to be constantly...and they would expect you to respond like within an hour or two. So I think, especially when you're at that level, it's no longer, it's a 24-hour job almost. So are you finding that the technology is, is making things, uh, diff -- changing things for you too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2029.0,2123.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Well, it does. I learned how to use Zoom. I never knew how to use Zoom. It, it does make a difference. Um, working from home, it does make a difference in the quality of service I could provide.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2123.0,2143.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes. You mean --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2143.0,2146.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: From home, having your computer and, um, being able to use the technology, you know, email, Internet, um...I'm not tech-savvy, but I know a little bit. I, my husband is a little more tech-savvy, so I call upon him for assistance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2146.0,2167.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yeah. That's what I used to do with my children. I would ask my children, but then they started to say, you have to figure it out, Mom, we can't tell you -- you have to figure it out. They started to challenge me. And I do the same to my husband, because he doesn't even want to try. I say, Lionel, you have to learn it. And if you don't learn it, you're going to be in big trouble. So I encourage him to do the same, but yeah, it was a challenge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2167.0,2193.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: It is a challenge, especially when I, I grew up with the old-fashioned typewriter!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2193.0,2198.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: I know! Me too! With the hard key. That's what we did, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2198.0,2203.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Yes. Typewriter, and, uh, we had no copy machine when I first started working, and yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2203.0,2213.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes. I know what you're talking about with the carbon paper. Yes. That's how it used to be a long time ago. And then we slowly got the electric typewriters and next thing you know, we had the computers, which is good. I mean, technology is good. It's just that you have to set a limit. You don't want it to become your entire life. At some point you have to be able to shut it off because there's so much, so much that you can get from it that it can really take over your life at some point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2213.0,2245.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Yes. So, yes. So I've become more tech-savvy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2245.0,2249.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Wonderful, wonderful. And the thing is, you're going to keep on learning new things because it's constant -- the change and yeah...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2249.0,2259.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Much, much more -- much faster than it was when I was younger as well. The typewriter was around for many, many years until, um, they, they got electric typewriters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2259.0,2274.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Now it's antique. I have one, I still have one, because I used to let my youngest, my daughters play on them. I just say, oh, you know, just for fun. And they would type, I would put the paper in and they would type, you know, they, as they were learning how to do their name, they would type their name on the old typewriter. And I still keep it because it's a part of our, you know, uh, almost antique. Someday I might, you know, be able to make money from that. You know what I find, like, it's like, you mustn't be afraid because at first, even at work, like they would say, oh, we need to do PowerPoint presentation. And I would say, I've never used PowerPoint. I don't know PowerPoint. But, uh, once you start using it, you realize that you can learn it. And I would do the same with other fellow employees who would be, oh, I don't know how to do that. I would say, it might seem scary because you don't know it, but don't be afraid of it. And you'll see how quickly you'll pick it up. Somebody will show you. And that's the nice thing. When you have good colleagues that are willing to show you, you can learn. Just your own fear or your own pride. But if you're not too proud to ask for help, then you know, you learn new things and you keep on growing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2274.0,2355.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Yes, I'm very fortunate because, uh, they do a lot of classes, uh, skills training, you know, when we first got the computers, they gave us training and then when, uh, you know, applications for Word, Excel and PowerPoint, we, they, we were fortunate that they took the time to train the employees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2355.0,2378.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Wow. That's wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2378.0,2380.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Yeah. I mean, not everybody got it the first time around, but I wasn't afraid. I wasn't too afraid to turn the computer on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2380.0,2388.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Good! That's good...go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2388.0,2395.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Yeah, no. I said, when my husband, when we got a home computer, he called me on the phone. He said, what do you do with this? I said, well, you turn it on. He said, OK, and you saw the little carat. You got to type in the word \"Windows.\" He typed it in, and all of a sudden the screen came to life. He self-taught himself. So, when I have a really tough, you know, Excel or something, he's very good at Excel. So I ask him. He's my, my techie at home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2395.0,2437.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Wow. It's amazing. Wow. Yeah, you know, some, some people have a knack for it and they just pick it up so quickly. Wow. Yes. I'm the type who wants my kids to do it. I'll say, can you do this? Show me, but, uh, yeah, Excel and all those things, you need them to find a job, so you can take a class. At work, they would encourage us to go to the next level. You know, like I, I knew the basics. And depending on your aspirations, what you're, you know, you may not need to have the advanced Excel, but it does help. The more you learn, the better. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2437.0,2472.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Yes. Yeah, where, where I work, we encourage people to at least have the basic knowledge, um, you know, of the three major, uh, Microsoft Office suite, we call it. So it does help them. I mean, we've had customers that come in that have never used a computer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2472.0,2493.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2493.0,2495.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Not, not so much young people, because I think they grew up with it. But sometimes we get older customers that come in and they, they don't know how to use the computer. So we're very lucky that classes are offered and they're free and people could take advantage of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2495.0,2514.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: That's wonderful. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2514.0,2516.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Yeah. Like you said, if you've never used a computer before, it could be very daunting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2516.0,2522.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes, scary. Yeah. But if you just go ahead and try, sometimes you can figure it out. Like your husband, you know, you just try, don't be afraid to try. You can't really break it. 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You have your help desk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2538.0,2541.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Yes, exactly. Did, did you use a computer a lot at work, or...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2541.0,2545.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Oh yes, oh yes. I think this firm, uh, at first, when I first started, I was using the electric typewriter. Uh, and then I don't remember the exact year, but at some point, as soon as computers became necessary, everyone had one. And then from that, we went to the laptops and then we went to the multiple screens. Not only did we have one screen, but we had, some people had four screens. Now, because they're in finance, they had to keep an eye on all kinds of things. But we had two, we had, I had two. But after you got, I got used to two, and I got, I had to work at home, I could no longer work with one screen because I had gotten used to having those two screens! So they had to actually ship extra screens to most people. Some people needed three, because it's hard to just work with the one screen when you have so many different programs that you have to use. So yeah. It's amazing. You don't realize until you, you don't need, need it, but once you get it, then you can't live without it. Right? The technology.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2545.0,2614.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Exactly. Technology is here to stay. It moves very fast though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2614.0,2621.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: It does. It really does. Yeah. I, before I stopped working, 'cause you know, in investment banking, the clients are constantly coming in to talk to you, right? So before I, when we had COVID, we had to, certainly they could not come to the office. So if you needed to open an account, which my team at the very end, right before I stopped, uh, I was a supervisor, but they started to merge things because they wanted people to do more work, more. So while I was a supervisor, they also assigned me to a brand new team, uh, that was in charge of opening accounts. So before that they, everybody used to open their own accounts. Then they said, oh, it would be more efficient if we just have the same team opening all the accounts. So I said, oh boy. So then they asked me if I would mind being the supervisor on that team, which meant that I would have to pitch in, you know, because if there's a lot of work, even though you're the supervisor, you still have to pitch in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2621.0,2680.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: So now the clients were no longer able to come to the office. It meant that now we had to get them to sign all of these documents with this new DocuSign. So it was really a lot of work because the clients, it was new for the clients. And when you're filling out, uh, new account documents, oh, there's a lot of information that we need. We need your Social Security. We need to know where you live. We need all kinds of -- and to make it easy for the clients, before you could send these documents to them for a signature, you had to prepare all these little boxes -- where do they have to initial? And it was, it seems easy, but it would take a lot of time because you don't want to make a single mistake on it. And that was a real frustration for me. Like, the system, you had to learn it, but you had to be very detail-oriented not to miss anything. So this COVID business caused things to become a little more...because you could not see people anymore. You had to do everything -- well, Zoom was a good thing. We had Zoom, so the clients were able to meet with us via Zoom. But when it came to like printing out paperwork, uh, that was like a whole...to me it was difficult. That was a part of the job I didn't enjoy, this using this DocuSign, because if anything came back wrong, then you had to resend the document to the client. And then they would say, oh, I can't open it. Oh, I don't know what to do, I don't know what to put. So it was an adjustment. So, so technology can be frustrating. Let's put it that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2680.0,2777.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: It seems like you picked the right time to retire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2777.0,2780.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Exactly, exactly. I said that. I said it was the perfect time for me to retire because there was just a lot of new things coming at us. And I mean, you, you adjust, but at the same time, it's, it's demanding. And that's why I said I was working such long hours. I used to enjoy working 9 to 5. That's one of the reasons I loved that job because everyone would go home at 5 o'clock when I first started 25 years ago. And I had young children, and I remember one year, not even, maybe a year into the job, I got a call from a, uh, from what do you call, recruiter, right? And they said, we have a job for you because I speak so many languages. I speak Spanish, I speak French, I speak English. I speak a lot of languages. And they were looking for someone who spoke, you know, many, at least three languages.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2780.0,2831.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: And they were offering me twice my salary. Right? And my children were like, why wouldn't you take that job? I said, who's going to help you with your homework if I take that job? I said, the reason that I'm staying at this job is because they allow me to work -- if I had take my kids to the bus stop, I would say to my boss, I might be 10 minutes late, but what I will do is I'll shorten my lunch hour by 10 minutes. And they said, oh fine. It was the best company for a flexible schedule for working families. Because there are some places where they say you have to be there at 9 sharp, but it wasn't like that. So I loved that about the job. So when I got the offer, I said, I'm not going to take a job that pays me a fortune and then I become a slave to the job when I have you guys to take care of. Who's going to feed you, who's going to make sure you do your homework? So, so in that sense, um, I loved that about the job that I was able to raise my kids. At that time, remember, I had returned from Haiti. I was, I didn't have my husband. I couldn't ask my sister to care of everything. So, so I wanted to be there for them. And it was a great job for that, was really great until the kids got older. I was able to be home on time for dinner. But not anymore, not anymore, not with technology has expanded. And I think they just expect more from the employees too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2831.0,2918.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Do you have, do you still have family, uh, overseas?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2918.0,2923.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Oh yes. I have a sister who still lives in Haiti. She loves it. She has her own business there. So even though there, sometimes she says it's dangerous and you have to be careful, but she's never left Haiti. I have some cousins that, uh, also love it there. So, um, and I have some very close friends still there that I speak to on the phone. And some people who would like to leave, but can't leave because they cannot get the visa or whatever. But I have some family there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2923.0,2959.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Do you, do you use Zoom?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2959.0,2963.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes. On the job we used it every day. And now with the family, I have a sister in Florida, whenever, and now that all the kids are grown and I have my daughter in L.A., every so often when we want to get together, what, mostly the young kids, like my daughter or my niece will set up one of those family Zoom calls where even my mom, I would go over there to my mom's apartment and we make her -- she doesn't, she goes, oh, she can't take it for too long, but we even make her say hello. And that's what we've been doing the past year. The extended family, the cousins, they all come on the Zoom call and we get to have a good time, laughing and chatting together. So yeah, we, we had to, right? That's the only way we got together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=2963.0,3009.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: That's great. That's very good. Yes. So, um, let me see if there's, um, I think we, I think we covered, we covered a lot. It's almost an hour...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3009.0,3029.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes. I think we have, I think we should be fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3029.0,3034.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: I don't know when Lori's going to come back online.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3034.0,3041.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Well, we can just chat about other things, I guess. She should be back soon. Um, so what about you? 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Um, you know, sometimes the day doesn't go fast enough. You know? When I'm busy at work, sometimes I'll look at my watch and say, oh no, it's 3 o'clock or it's 12 o'clock, time for lunch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3062.0,3091.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Right, the time goes fast, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3091.0,3093.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: I think, I think it, COVID did change for everyone. 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It'd be different if she had a husband or children, but she lived in the apartment all day working by herself. And she didn't really go out all day until the end of the day. I would say, make sure that at the end of the day, you go out to the park or you do something outdoors, get fresh air. So you cannot stay in the house all night, because you need to see people and talk to people. It can be a little lonely, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3106.0,3168.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Yeah, I try to get out, um, you know, after work, there's a neighborhood supermarket that's never crowded. 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Because you need to interact with people. And I could understand, you know, your daughter feeling isolated, because, uh, even if she had like a good, uh, a girlfriend or, um, you know, neighbors that she was friendly with, it would make a big difference for her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3188.0,3217.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes, yes. I would tell her like, because she didn't really know the neighbors, and I would say, you need to know your neighbors so that when you are done working, you can at least go visit with someone. And she did have a few friends on the weekends, you know, she would probably try and call up a friend and I encourage her to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3217.0,3237.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: That's important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3237.0,3239.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Especially for the young people, you know, they need that interaction. We've had it already. Hi, Lori.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3239.0,3245.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3245.0,3247.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lori Wallach: Hi. Hi guys. How are you doing? I don't want to, want to cut you short. Are you, um, are you ready to wrap up, or...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3247.0,3254.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: We actually, we actually did a few, few minutes ago, but we were chit-chatting anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3254.0,3261.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lori Wallach: OK. That's fine. Yeah, we can, we can, we can trim it. It sounded from, I was listening here and there, it sounded like everything went very smoothly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3261.0,3271.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: I don't know how the camera was going because every so often my phone would kind of slide down and I said, oh, I hope the camera's OK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3271.0,3281.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lori Wallach: It was OK. It looks fine, yeah. You know, one thing that I happened to hear that I was a little curious about, Dominique. You said you worked in the World Trade Center, huh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3281.0,3287.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3287.0,3288.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lori Wallach: Were you actually there during 9/11, or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3288.0,3292.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Well, you know, it's a strange story. Everybody will tell you that, for some reason that day, uh, they were late or something happened, maybe they were walking out the door and the dog decided to throw up. I have so many colleagues who had strange stories, why they weren't up there, especially the ones who liked to be early. Now, it's funny because my daughter, who was in high school at that time. I mean, I want to say, yeah, high school or junior high school. One of my daughters, she said when the, when they told her that the World Trade Center, did anybody, and she said, yeah, my mother works there. But she said, my mother's not there. And they said, why? And she said, oh, the baby wasn't well. And it's so funny, because that day I had -- my youngest daughter was not even a year old, I had her late in life. And she was a few months old. And that morning I said to, my husband said, oh, you know, so I don't remember exactly, but she wasn't feeling a hundred percent. Like she had a slight temperature. So I said to myself, I'm not going to rush, I'm not going to rush. For no reason. I'm going to take my time. And my sister, who was living next door, she said, she almost stopped to ask me if I wanted help with the baby. But she said at the last minute, she said, OK, I'm not going to ask. Because she could have taken her to my mom or whatever. My mom was our babysitter. Anyway, to make a long story short, when I got down -- I took the subway -- I got down to the last stop, which was the last stop on the E. And I see people crying in the subway station.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3292.0,3394.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: But before we had pulled into the last stop, we had heard already in the subway, because they kind of stopped us to say, uh, a plane hit the World Trade Center. Oh, OK, we thought it's a small little plane or something, right? So the subway pulls in, and I see people crying, and I'm hearing this news about the plane hit the World Trade Center, and I'm still sitting there, wait, what's going on? And I said to myself, I don't want to see what's going on. I'm that kind of a person that things stay in my head. I called my husband, and he was watching it on TV. And I said, oh, they said a plane hit the World Trade Center. I was in the subway. I hadn't come out. He said, come home right away. That's all he said. He said nothing else. Come home right away. So I'm like a Pollyanna. I said, I'm not going to go up the stairs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3394.0,3451.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: I see a young high school girl hysterical, hysterical. And I'm trying to comfort her. And then I hear the conductor. There was supposed to be no more trains, no more trains, no more trains. We're all sitting there saying what's going on? And then they said, one last train. I hopped on that train. I said, I'm getting out of here. My husband said, come home right away. So the plane -- the subway didn't go all the way to Queens, but it stopped at the --that's when I saw what happened. I never came out to see. I heard a lot of colleagues who were down there stayed and watched the whole thing and stayed even when the building was falling. But I did not. I thank God that day, some kind of premonition said don't rush in. Don't rush in. And there were so many colleagues who had similar experiences where they just would have been there. But you know, the funny thing is the place, I was, at that time, I was in the custody department and you know, all the people who were there in our department, on our floor, they were in a position where they didn't see what happened. So depending on where you were in the building, because I had other friends who saw, who were in a different corner, and when they saw, they saw the smoke, they said, we're out of here. But our department, where I sat, they didn't see, they were on a different side. So to be honest with you, in my department, we lost a lot of people. We -- our firm lost a hundred people. And I remember there was a girl who had a daughter, same age as me. She had the baby around the same time that I did. Oh my God. I don't even like to talk about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3451.0,3556.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: But a lot of the young girls who were there, they didn't come out. They didn't come out. So I think, I think it was really God, like you had to -- I know it seems kind of crazy -- but it was God, it was like something telling you. And you could listen or not listen. And even people who were there, like some of them went back up who had come down! When they said, you can go back up, they went back up. So yeah, it was kind of a nightmare, but anyhow...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3556.0,3589.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lori Wallach: Wow. You're really fortunate. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3589.0,3591.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yeah. But yeah, I was, because I had a baby. Could you imagine, I had just had the baby, not too long before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3591.0,3598.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lori Wallach: What company was that, that you worked for?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3598.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: It was, it was called Fiduciary Trust Company International, but that's, actually what had happened with, for us that same year that the World Trade Center happened, they had just -- a bigger company called Franklin Templeton Investments, you might've heard of Franklin Templeton -- they, they had just bought us. And we said, if it hadn't been for them, we would not have been able to survive because we weren't such a big company. But Franklin Templeton took care of us in a sense, even though we had to start -- really, we get contracts, we had lost all of the paperwork. We had lost so much, but thanks to the fact that we had a parent company, we were able to continue functioning. We went to New Jersey, you know, how they had Comdisco, you know, where we functioned for a while. And then they found us space in Rockefeller Center. So we moved to Rockefeller Center.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3600.0,3659.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: But I think that's why I was so close to our, um, our people who were there. We are very close to each other. We experienced so much together that, um, all those of us who were there, we became like, we were like family. Those that we lost, that was a nightmare too, because they were like family too. Yeah. I know you probably have stories about that day too, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3659.0,3698.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lori Wallach: Everybody, everybody from New York, I think, has a story. But yeah, the fact that you worked there is really -- that's intense, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3698.0,3704.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes. And you know what, another story, one of my close friends, um, who I say is still my friend to this very day, she used to sit next to me. And, um, she had gotten fired like a few months before, and it was strange, but she had been there for many years. And at the time I was very angry that she had gotten fired. But going back to think about it, she used to start working at 7 in the morning, and she was one of these people who never left her desk, never even left her desk for lunch. And then afterwards I said, thank God that they had fired you. God saw it coming, because you would not have survived. She would have been, 'cause we were on the top, 97, 96, 95, we were high up. And, anyway. We could talk about it forever. How about you? Do you have like a bad experience or anyone that you know, probably? 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Then obviously I was not meant to --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3768.0,3802.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: You weren't meant, you weren't meant to be there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3802.0,3802.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lori Wallach: After that, they had a lot of damage too, and they shut down for that whole semester.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3802.0,3806.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3806.0,3807.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lori Wallach: Eileen, were you anywhere near the city when that happened?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3807.0,3814.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: I was working at the time and um, we had computers and you know, the news came on with a flash about an airplane hitting the building and um, they brought a TV up to the cafeteria so we could watch it. After a couple of times I couldn't watch it anymore. I just, I couldn't. I only know one person that worked there. He had left the library and he went to work at the World Trade Center. And that morning I heard that he had, his son wasn't feeling good, the same kind of thing. You know, he called the doctor and um, you know, the doctor prescribed some medicine and he went to get the medicine and then he went to work, not hearing about the buildings. And he had a similar experience that you had, Domnique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3814.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dominique Noisy: Yes. You hear a lot of stories. So he got there after.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3870.0,3875.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093/transcript/31806/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eileen Gellman: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/47825/file/121093#t=3875.0,3879.48963"}]}]}]}