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So since I'm the one interviewing, um, I am Christine Cornwall and I'm here with Nancy Cafferty, and I hope I got your name correctly?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=0.0,17.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: You sure did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=17.0,17.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: OK. Um, and today is Friday, May 28th, 2021. And this interview is being recorded for the Queens Memory Project. So, now we got the laundry out the way...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=17.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Do I have to do the laundry too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=34.0,36.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: No. Well, when we come back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=36.0,38.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Oh, OK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=38.0,38.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Yeah, I do the laundry now, you do the laundry when we come back. So at least we get a chance. We each get a chance to do laundry, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=38.0,44.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: OK! \n[laughing]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=44.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: As much as we love laundry. So, you know, I, um, we're sticking to career, that's what we're doing. Um, my question, my first question for you, and it may be something that, um, might help to reflect a little bit, um, in looking at your, um, career choice then, right? Because you did finance, you said, correct? And your current position now, because now you're working in the library, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=47.0,76.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=76.0,76.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: That's exciting. I don't know, if you were to pick -- let's say, for example, you were doing the library as your first, launching your career. What, what would your, um, what could you say about that? I mean, how do you, where do you feel more complete in these, you know, both, um, choices that you, you had?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=76.0,99.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Well, obviously the two choices are very, very different and I am one of those immensely fortunate people that I adored what I did career-wise, working in the finance area. Um, it was delightful. I just kept learning. Um, I worked for absolutely wonderful organizations. There were ups and downs; nothing is perfect. But I, I just was a happy person working in the finance world. Um, I chose to retire, um, figured there's a big world out there, let me see a little bit more of it. And fortunately, um, if you believe in karma or things like that -- I think we call it networking today, but through a friend, I heard about the Queens Library hiring part-time people. And I thought, oh boy, this sounds good. It's near home. It's a different type of work. And courage -- I've always been somewhat of a courageous person, willing to try things. So, sure enough -- and it sounds kind of odd, I don't think everybody believes me -- I actually applied to work in, uh, ESOL, English speakers of second languages. That's quite a change from being a finance director. To this day, and it fascinates me that the delightful, wonderful person in charge of the program, may she rest in peace, the wonderful person decided to give me a try.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=99.0,236.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: And, it was one of the happiest years of my life was working in ESOL. We actually met people who came to this country who did not know how to read and write in their native language. So realizing the difficulties these people face, but their willingness and their determination, um, was heartwarming and humbling. Um, I have fortunately, a friend of mine, um, his wife actually teaches ESOL to people like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=236.0,287.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Excuse me. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=287.0,289.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: I'm going off on my --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=289.0,292.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: No, no, go ahead. So that's, so, so in other words, um, the, the last choice that you made in terms of your work choice, your career choice is like, it feels, seems to be more fulfilling, in other words. It's more, it's giving you more than you would say that your career as a finance -- even though they're two different careers -- but it's more fulfilling because you feel that you're really helping people? 'Cause I mean, 'cause working with numbers helps also, when you're -- that's always good for the bank account, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=292.0,331.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Well, it's good, um, and I found it a fascinating field that I stayed in for about 40 years. Yeah, this was give-back, definitely give-back, and go home at night feeling, um, as if you did a little bit of good in the world, I would say. Unfortunately, um, because the branch we worked in was so old and tiny and run down, they closed the program in that branch; it was still a dynamic program throughout the library. Um, so I looked around and there were other part-time jobs at Queens Library. So then I interviewed, well, what's called now JBA, the Job and Business Academy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=331.0,395.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right, right. That was a new, newly created...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=395.0,397.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Uh, it was around for a while, but they began to realize -- the library began to realize -- that there were many, many unemployed people at the time. This is nine years ago. And let's give this a try. Um, there's several full-time people, and then they brought on three of us part-time, who have experience in the corporate world \n[unclear]. So to this position we did in fact bring experience, skills, talent. 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The biggest one we get, I love best, is a big hug.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=474.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. That is, that is rewarding. That is rewarding. So what, what is one thing that you can identify as workplace wisdom? Because now you've, in other words, I would say you, you had the best of both worlds, or you're having the best of the second world. 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Um, be aware of your soft skills, which we talked about before, and which of those you can bring to the job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=542.0,561.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=561.0,564.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Sometimes it's hard to bring those to the job, such as, make sure you get along with all your coworkers. Because we always have a diff-, you know, just challenge, challenge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=564.0,587.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=587.0,589.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Make sure you come to work ready to give what you have to give. 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Sometimes people can be either more difficult to work with, our clients, but yet they just need more time and attention to be polished for interviews for jobs. Um, it, it, it really causes you to look at each individual and think, what does this person need, and am I able to provide that need to them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=598.0,643.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=643.0,643.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: They're vulnerable and dependent. Some are scared, some are arrogant. On the whole, they're good people. They're wonderful people. But they've got their rough edges too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=643.0,659.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right, right. Because you know, when you, when you're facing a challenge, it really brings out the best or worst.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=659.0,664.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Yes! Very, very well put! OK. Keep in mind -- and we talk about this among ourselves, we're a good team. These people that come to us at the Job and Business Academy are turning to someone they don't know to help them in a very significant way: Please help me get a job. Implying, so I can pay my rent, buy food, all that. And then they walk up to us. They don't know us, but they're putting so much into our hands, um, that we need to stay aware of exactly that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=664.0,721.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right, right, right, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=721.0,724.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: And that's why helping them turn around...maybe attitude, attitude can just be shyness; some are very, very shy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=724.0,735.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right. That's true, yes, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=735.0,737.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Um, fear. They're just afraid of the whole situation. Those type of things. So, there's more than just writing a resume.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=737.0,751.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Absolutely true. That is so true. You know? And so it's like they come to you to work miracles for them, right? 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They're coming from a different place and they're not used to our system and how things operate. So it's like, you know, they have to learn a new language. They have to learn a new system, a new way of doing things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=769.0,788.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Well, we call that -- and I'll use one overwhelming example. About five years ago, some young doctors from Pakistan came into, in the library. Um, they had interviews at medical centers, hopefully getting, uh, residencies in the United States and somebody told them that I do mock interviews. Anyway. Well, I never had such a delightful time. What they needed -- and this is interesting -- was what we call cultural acclimation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=788.0,825.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: OK, I love that. Yes. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=825.0,829.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: OK, shake hands with a woman? Oh boy. I'm supposed to do that? Um, go to the location first and walk around, be comfortable. Ooh, what if they see me? What if -- all those -- but the cultural acclimation was, was wonderful. Trying to get them to fit in. So as a doctor in the United States, they would be comfortable with other doctors and healthcare workers and patients. They were a delightful bunch of young people who are going to set the world on fire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=829.0,885.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right, right, right. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=885.0,887.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: But I had to take into consideration their culture. And be careful on what you suggested to them. You had to tiptoe, you might say, through the process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=887.0,904.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right, right. Yeah. It certainly called for some sensitivity on your part, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=904.0,910.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Yes. Um, we, they came through the process, they did well. And the next year they sent the young people coming from Pakistan the second time. And then they sent them the third time, so for five years we were working with, uh, the delightful gentlemen. 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You know, it's, it's amazing because you, you know, what you're talking about is like being very resourceful for people, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=943.0,949.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Oh boy, yeah!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=949.0,951.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: And that, I think that's, that's the greatest thing because you know, like, you know, like you're saying, sometimes people are, well, like I said, from another country or from, you know, not having the language, having a language barrier, you know, a system issue, a process issue, whatever, you know, whatever any of those things are and not knowing where to go, but then they, they come to you and everything just seems to fall into place. I mean, at least to begin to fall into place. Right. Right. I mean, that's important, you know, what you do, what you provide is important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=951.0,991.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: You can, after talking to a few people like this, although I think we were from the beginning, you become very, very aware of their hesitancy because you might be asking them to actually give up something common in their culture. 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Not, again, taking on the culture of -- many, many, um, maintain their culture in their own homes, their environment. They just need to be aware of the difference to comfortably fit in \n[unclear].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1026.0,1065.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Yeah. So that they can be their full self, their complete selves, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1065.0,1074.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Exactly. They're expanding their full selves more than changing or giving up, OK?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1074.0,1079.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Yes, yeah. So they don't feel they've lost, but they've gained.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1079.0,1082.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: That's our goal. And I must say, I think in most instances, since they did make the, excuse me, the decision to immigrate, um, although sometimes they're not fully aware of all the changes they do have to make. So, you know, we try to talk smoothly through it. And try to, um, encourage, always use positive words. Never, never criticize, always talk about how it will improve their world, um, will improve their acclimation to the environment. And we strongly urge that when they go home that they watch TV in English. 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That cultural assimilation. So they're comfortable in a job. Often that's not the way...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1163.0,1175.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right, right. Yeah. Well, that's a lot of workplace wisdom, Nancy. That's great. I mean, you know, because, um, you know, so often, I mean, there's a lot of wisdom to gain from, you know, uh, you know, from work. Um, and sometimes, you know, it's sad because some people just see work as something they do, a job, but not necessarily, uh, you know, reconciling the, uh, you know, the greatness of what it brings to someone's life, giving them, giving them purpose and direction, you know, and all that, you know? Um, so when you can, when you can have a career that fulfills that for someone else, in the interim, you're fulfilling that for yourself to make, you know, to make you a better person, to make us better people. So that's great. Thank you so much for that. Um, and oh, the other thing that I, I, you know, I know it's, um, the Queens Public Library in Queens -- well, since it's Queens Public Library presents this great thing. Um, I don't know that we can get that in Brooklyn, Staten island, the Bronx or Manhattan, you know? It's like, this is really, really a great idea. I don't know. Do they provide other services? Like, like you mentioned?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1175.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Brooklyn Library does some of this. OK? Um, one of our, um, one person that worked with us for a long time, a lovely woman, she went to work at the Brooklyn Library. It was closer to home, things like that. She's been trying to bring it in more and more. What's also interesting, um, someone else who left the library -- again, uh, really geographic reasons, that kind of thing. Um, she went to work as, um, the director of a small library system in Nassau County. And the first thing she did was call two of us, if we would volunteer a couple of hours a week there, so she could implement this system, um, which was absolutely fantastic. She had staff, but they didn't know -- good staff, but didn't know much about this. So, we did help her, um, implement it. So yes, it is spreading to a degree. I don't know about New York. That's a good question. In fact, I'm going to check up on that, OK? Although I must say, um, most of the universities in Queens and in Manhattan do have classes like this, um, for their graduates. Particularly their, um, foreign-born graduates. Even though they've worked their way to a degree in New York, they still need cultural acclimation, things like that. So yeah, the need is spreading. Definitely wonderful. 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Mentorship in a sense that, you know, you had, you know, from when you started very early, you know, the baby steps that you took and, you know, and, you know, 1, 2, 3, and, you know, that kind of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1398.0,1447.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Well, I don't know, I think in so many ways, um, I've been fortunate and I'll use the word blessed. Um, the field I originally chose, finance, was not exactly a woman's field. There were very -- in fact, when I went undergraduate to study accounting, there were five women in the class and about 127 men. That was a sign of the times, OK? It was not a woman's field, et cetera. Um, and when I got my first job, um, it was an international corporation in Manhattan that were, they were all over the United States and were opening a very large office in Manhattan. And they were hungry for accounting degrees. Which was fine, um, and I was one of the first they hired. I must say, um, I, the gentlemen that I worked with on the whole were very, very supportive. Mentoring, um, just unbelievable. Um, there was once in a while, somebody who wasn't thrilled that women were breaking that glass ceiling or whatever. 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And one of my, um, positions, uh, I was promoted to was in the internal audit department. And there were 12 of us and we were the financial eyes and ears of the controller for the corporation. I was the only woman, it was 11 fellas. And they were all very good to me. And we traveled; boy did we travel!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1544.0,1622.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Well, nothing better than when you're a young woman in your career -- five, six years. And off you're going, oh boy. So, went everywhere from spending months in Los Angeles to Coffee Pot, Mississippi -- an interesting town. It was fascinating. Their products were on barges. Um, so we were out on the Mississippi, doing all kinds of things. During that time, flying -- I'm a very adventurous person; I think I still am, to a degree -- um, and coming back from Houston, we were going to New Jersey, I was with the -- we always traveled in teams. And sure enough, we just took off and one of the engines died. OK? So the plane started listing over. Yeah. I see your eyes!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1622.0,1696.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: That is scary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1696.0,1701.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: It was scary. So the plane is no longer horizontal. It's a \n[unclear] thing. So fortunately the pilot was a delightful, calm gentlemen and told us we would have to go out over the Atlantic and get rid of all our fuel, burn it off way out there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1701.0,1723.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: What a place to go to burn it out, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1723.0,1727.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Yeah. Well, better than dumping it on people's homes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1727.0,1730.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: That's true. Yeah, that's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1730.0,1734.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: We couldn't land in that situation; the plane was too heavy. Um, but anyway, eventually, uh, after an hour or so, we came back on to, over land, and we had to make an emergency landing. In -- I don't know, Atlanta or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1734.0,1757.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: You must get flashbacks of that. Do you get flashbacks of it? I can imagine I would be thinking about that for the rest of my life!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1757.0,1767.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Yeah! Well, a while later we were coming, actually coming to New York -- again, two or three of us, things like that. And we get over JFK airport and the landing gear won't come down, OK? So anyway, um, the pilot of course realized when we got close to the ground, so made a real turn and went back up into the air, um, called down and they foamed the runway, is what they did then; don't know about now. So he gave us a very pleasant, but pointed talk about tightening our seatbelts, um, on our lap and putting our heads in the pillow, all that kind of good stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1767.0,1825.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Yeah. Survival, survival stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1825.0,1831.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Yeah, actually survival stuff. Obviously we made it; here I am!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1831.0,1833.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Yes. Thank God you're here. You lived to tell the story. Yeah. You lived to tell the story. Thank God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1833.0,1839.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Got a minute? I'll tell you another one quick. OK, this is a fun one. OK. We were leaving Houston and we were going to south Texas -- to south, to south Florida -- late, very late one afternoon. And we were flying on an airline called Texas International. Never heard of it, but that's OK. Got to the airport with my partner -- wonderful, fantastic guy -- uh, get there, and we don't see a place to check in. So we asked the security guard and all that. And he said to us very politely, he said, oh, they'll be here in a few minutes. Oh, OK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1839.0,1883.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: So, 10, 15 minutes before the plane was supposed to board a third man came along and said, are you going on Texas International? We said, yup. OK, now there's three of us. Um, anyway, then a gentleman with a uniform came along, opened a closet and pulled out a cart that said Texas International. So we said, OK, well there's somebody here. Anyway, walked up to him, checked in, all that. He took us to the gate, walked out to this little two-engine plane. Got in it, it only had four seats in addition to the pilot and the co-pilot. So my partner and I got in the seats behind -- this is a true story! Got in the seat behind the pilot. Our luggage was under our seat. Sitting there, sitting there. And this is absolutely true. Along comes a gentleman with, um, work clothes on, which was fine, with, uh, with a zip front. Had a hamburger in one hand, a Coke in the other, gets in the plane and said, I'm the pilot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1883.0,1966.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Then he handed me his Coke, asked me to hold it while he -- OK! And he turned around and very politely said, look, there's a big accident on the freeway. And he said, the pilot tried to get here. It's a mess. I'm the head mechanic, I'm licensed to fly. He was a lovely gentleman. So anyway, um, fine. So anyway, he starts checking the engine to make sure everything works. The lights wouldn't go on in the dashboard. So he took out a flashlight, handed it to my partner sitting next to me, said to Ken, I'm sorry, said to Ken, would you hold this over my shoulder so I can check... \n[laughing]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=1966.0,2018.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Oh my goodness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2018.0,2022.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Anyway. So, um, Ken held the flashlight so the pilot could check all the gears on the plane and everything. Then -- and this is truth; I, I'm not a liar at all -- everything's ready to go. He turns around and says to the three of us, OK, where you going?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2022.0,2043.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Red flags, red flags. You guys stayed on the plane, I take it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2043.0,2049.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Oh yeah. I've been courageous. Turns out the gentleman that was with us was also going to Florida. His place was closer. So the pilot said, well, I'll drop him off first. Anyway, we did fine, here I am. It was a fascinating flight. Oh by the way, Texas International Airlines is commonly referred to as Tree Tops.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2049.0,2079.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Oh, OK. So they must've changed their name a couple of times, then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2079.0,2083.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: What they do is just hop from one to another city to another city...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2083.0,2091.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: That might've been Jet Blue in the making, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2091.0,2094.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: It probably was!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2094.0,2094.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: So, in your career, um, you, um, I mean, 'cause you said that it was, it was not, uh, it was certainly a man's field, right? How did you as a woman, or young woman, um, how did you react? I mean, um, I mean, I know there were enjoyable moments, but did you sense any, uh, type of sexism or, you know, um, there's a, there's another word that they call it today -- misogynism -- you know, that kind of thing? Did you experience, did you feel that experience?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2094.0,2133.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Actually, to be perfectly straight and honest with you? Very, very little. Remember I start-- when I went to get an accounting degree, there were just five women in the class. So right from the start, um, we, we wanted to be who we wanted to be. We were dedicated to building these careers. Um, and on the whole, the guys were very good to us. Um, in, in my many, many years in the finance world, I had one situation that was very unpleasant. Um, and I will always remember to this day, because I was the only woman, um, at this big company, as far as the 12 auditors go, and one particular manager of the field was not pleasant, to put it mildly. Fortunately, a couple of my coworkers, gentlemen, noticed what was going on and they complained about him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2133.0,2204.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: OK!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2204.0,2207.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: So whether it was just my attitude, willing to fit in and do my job, and you know, not, no chip on my shoulder either, um, 99 percent of the time, my life was acceptable. It was both sides giving a little bit. It was obvious women were moving into many fields that had really been denied to them before. And most of them \n[the men] just shrugged it off so long as you did your job and had a good attitude.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2207.0,2245.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right, yeah. And I suppose you would have to have great confidence in yourself, because the thing is that, you know, it's a career that you studied for, you worked hard to achieve your -- you know, you got your degrees, you achieved, you achieved that success because you worked hard to get it. It's not like somebody gave it to you, you know what I mean? So, so you totally earned it. So when you, I suppose when you're faced with these, all these men around, it's like, they're not going to tell you anything you don't know, 'cause -- you know what I'm saying?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2245.0,2279.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Exactly. Yes. But it was to do your job well. Um, go the extra mile. You know, you kind of were making a pathway, um, and if you were going to be one of the leaders of the pack, you wanted to gain respect. And being arrogant and pushy and things like that is not going to win good people over, you know that. Just do a good job, give a little extra and you'll be respected, um, professionally. And that to me was the important thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2279.0,2318.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Workplace wisdom, that's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2318.0,2320.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Yes, well put!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2320.0,2323.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Yeah. So overall, you would say that mentorship is a very essential, um, part of a career, building a career.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2323.0,2334.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Unquestionably. Yes. Yeah. Even at the library, mentorship is important. We need to mentor each other. We need, need to, um, show newcomers the path, um, help them become comfortable. Those types of things. It makes our own life happier too, doesn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2334.0,2361.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: That's true. That's true. That is true. Um, and always, you know, we have to remember that, you know, what we're building is not for ourselves only, you know, because we can, we can enjoy the benefits of what we build, but overall we're sharing it, we're sharing it. And that's how we, that's how we accumulate more, because we're able to share the, you know, the kindness and, and, and you know, all of that with others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2361.0,2387.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Exactly. True. Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2387.0,2391.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: So, um, one of the things about Queens, um, is the commuting. Um, and 'cause, you know, I know in Queens it's not the usual -- 'cause Queens is a two, two-fare zone. How was that for you? You know, I mean, I know you traveled, you know, you, you flew and went to different places, but was there a point where you had to commute into the city or commute from, from the city, from the city, or...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2391.0,2419.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Yeah. Once I came, I came back from Houston after about six years there. Uh, Jimmy and I went to work in Manhattan and lived in Queens, but I was fortunate, I lived near one of the subway stops. So going in and out of Manhattan -- well, you know, it was a 40-minute ride, but still easily done. The subway system, when it's functioning effectively --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2419.0,2448.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Yes. Yes. It's still the best system!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2448.0,2455.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: It unquestionably is! I can't knock it; price and convenience, that it does have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2455.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Yes, yes. Yeah. I mean, that's one of the things about, you know, about Queens. Um, you know, a lot of people don't, they -- well, they don't want to live in Queens, more so even work in Queens, but, um, you know, because of the transportation issue. But I think that it's, it depends on what part of Queens you're in, it's more accessible to you, you know, like you were in a one-fare zone 'cause you were near the subway, right? And so, um, you know, um, for me, I lived in a two-fare zone, so I always had to take a bus and a train. So, but even that was, you know, wasn't a great challenge. I mean, it was, you know, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it because, you know, I can do other things besides just driving myself, but let somebody drive me so I can relax and enjoy it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2460.0,2505.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2505.0,2508.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: So, so it wasn't, um, so it, wasn't a big challenge for you, your transportation going back and forth, right? OK, very interesting. All right, that's wonderful. So, um, let me see now, do I have any other questions for you? What would you say was your most, uh, rewarding...um, I know 'cause when we talk about people having work relationships and home relationships, it's totally different environments. And sometimes we know at work, we can build, you know, um, friendships, right? That are lasting, or may not be so good, you know, it depends, right? So I mean, it, it all depends. So what would you say was your most rewarding and fulfilling relationship that you built at work, in your career, as you worked?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2508.0,2560.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: I built a lot of wonderful relationships. Um, many of them with gentlemen because it was such a field. One, I -- my last position in New York was the chief financial officer in a museum on Fifth Avenue. And, um, it's well known that chief curators in museums immensely disliked the finance person, because they want to spend money on an exhibition, and the finance person says, no-no, no-no, you can't go over budget. So when I interviewed for the job, um, at the museum -- the director was, is a lovely gentleman -- and the chief curator would have interviewed me as well, but he was on vacation somewhere in Florida. Anyway, it turns out the chief curator and I, as opposed to everybody's beliefs, became two of the best friends in the world. He's retired, I'm retired and we're still good friends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2560.0,2643.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: That is amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2643.0,2646.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: And people used to look like, hey, you're even talking, OK? Fantastic person, Ph.D. in art history, um, all that. He taught me a lot. I taught him a lot. In fact it's a cute story. Um, he's a truly wonderful human being, OK? But he didn't do too well managing his own money, kind of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2646.0,2679.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Man of numbers, a man, a man of numbers, not managing? Not unusual, not unusual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2679.0,2686.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Yes! Anyway, so, I remember we used to, we used to talk, go out and have dinner, things like that. And we, you know, I tried to help him and all that. So finally, one Christmas, I, I had a friend of mine who's very creative make him a great big piggy bank, and we put some cute sayings, she and I put some really cute sayings on it. And I remember giving it to him and saying, OK, David, start saving some money, OK? Whatever it was, we were trying to get him on the right track to get his own personal finances under control. So yeah. You make a lot of great relationships at work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2686.0,2738.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. And, and, you know, uh, some are lasting and then, but, but you know, you know, the ones that aren't and you know, but there are lasting relationships. Well, that's wonderful, Nancy. So, anything else that I missed out on asking you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2738.0,2757.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Not at all. You were very thorough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2757.0,2758.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: 'Cause we, we, we can go till 2 o'clock. We can cut off at -- it's now, it's 1:50. So, uh, yeah. Well, I really enjoyed, uh, you know, hearing your story and, um, uh, I, um, I'm just thinking how exciting it must be for you that you were able to have two careers, right? And at the end of, and at the end of the first one, here you go, you have something that's even greater than the first one, right? So, uh, this is, this is good. This is really good. Uh, you are blessed, truly blessed, Nancy. Um, one of the, did I ask you all, I'm just looking over my, my notes to make sure that I covered all the questions that I needed to cover. I think that's it, yeah. So, all right. Well...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2758.0,2819.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: I think we can give it up!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2819.0,2821.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Right. We can give it up, we can give it up. According to my notes, according to my notes, we can give it up. \n[laughing] So we'll, we'll be back again at 3, right? Three o'clock. OK. We probably could have done 2:30, you know, but you know, she \n[Lori] said 3 o'clock. So maybe it's the time that she has available.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2821.0,2843.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Yes, I think it is. Well, we'll manage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2843.0,2844.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Yeah, we're good. We're good. All right. So I know you're not going to ask me too many hard questions, so I'm not worried.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2844.0,2854.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: Not at all. Not at all. No. And you did a beautiful job. Thank you so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2854.0,2860.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: OK, Nancy, nice talking with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2860.0,2862.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nancy Cafferty: My pleasure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2862.0,2862.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100/transcript/32030/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christine Cornwall: Take care. OK. Bye-bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/50315/file/123100#t=2862.0,2868.5226"}]}]}]}