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So, welcome to Queens memory project. We're here with Jared Harel, who is the author of poetry collection Go, Because I Love You, Diode Editions, 2018 and the narrative long poem, The Body Double by Brooklyn Arts Press, 2012. He's been awarded the Stanley Kunitz Memorial prize, the William Matthews poetry prize and two individual artists grants from Queens Arts Council and the Queen's Council on the Arts, and is on the editorial board for Queensbound, a poetry audio project created by KC Trommer, and he has appeared in many journals, such as 32 poems, Ploughshare, the Southern review and Three Penny review. He is teaching in Nassau community college and plays drums to the NYC based rock band flying J and the Ghost Robbers. He is the grandson of Holocaust survivors and currently lives in Rego Park with his wife and two children for more information you can find out more at jaredharel.com. So I just want to clarify that, I guess you've agreed to the terms and conditions as outlined in the informed consent thatI think we gave you beforehand, right?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=0.0,73.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=73.0,74.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: All right. Great, great. So why don't we start the conversation off a little bit about your writing background. Tell us a little bit about, how you came to go into poetry and where your particular poetic obsessions are, if you will, that means and themes and ideas that you kind of return in your writing. \n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=74.0,92.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: Sure. I came to writing pretty late, actually. It wasn't until like my senior year of high school that I started writing and writing poems. I was in a creative writing class with my English teacher, Mrs. Schmidt, who I'm still in touch with, and we're we're friends now. But she's the one who really started a poetry project in her English class. And it was, you know, write a poem or to read a poem or two, and I wound up just kind of getting into it. It kind of snowballed from there. I went to Binghamton. I was as an English major and then did my MFA at Cornell with poetry. And so really I came to it late, but then I dove dove head first. In terms of obsessions, I think I tend to write about interiors, kinda.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=92.0,152.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: I find my family, my kids show up a lot in my writing. The domestic, you know, I think my first collection Go Because I Love You is kind of a book of arrivals and departures, about kind of luck loss. Um, so I'm interested in sort of seeing how, kind of, one's personal life can come through and one's poetry and how one's personal life serves as a metaphor and kind of a symbol for, or a jumping off point for some of the bigger issues, you know, that we kind of write about or think about like time and loves and death and all those things. But, yeah, so that's kind of the place I start from. I start from sort of where I am, who I am and build off from that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=152.0,200.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Yeah. And also you're mentioned about a high school. Where did you go to high school again? And where were you born and where you grew up?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=200.0,207.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: So I was born in Queens, actually fished out my, birth certificate. I was like, there it is. So I got my birth certificate, so I'm born in Queens, but pretty shortly after, to Long beach, Long island. And I grew up mostly on Syosset it so Long Island area. So I went to Syosset high school and grew up in Long Island. Then I spent college and grad school upstate and I think about 2005 or 2006, I moved to Astoria, after grad school spent 6 or 7 years in Astoria. And then my wife and I got this apartment in Rego Park about five years ago.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=207.0,254.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Oh, nice. Nice. And what was the hospital or what was the neighborhood particularly, was that Jamaica hospital or what was it?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=254.0,264.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: You know, I'm not sure, I was looking here for which hospital it was in. I got to ask my mom what hospital it was. It might've been Jamaica hospital or Elmhurst.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=264.0,275.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Okay, cool. Now, how has the past year been for you? I know this past year starting in March of 2020, we had the COVID crisis. And how has that been, how have you been able to handle that and how has that kind of affected your writing life or writing?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=275.0,296.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: Well, I mean, how it's affected me and how it's affected my writing are kind of overlapping but different. I mean, my wife and I, we have two small children. My daughter is eight ,in third grade now, and my son is six, just turned six and he's in kindergarten. So, you know, having going through COVID in quarantine with two small children is challenging. We also live in a large building here, and so we're on the 11th floor. And so they started work on one of our elevators about two weeks before COVID really hit. So we only had one elevator for the whole building. So it was challenging. I mean, keeping the kids occupied and engaged and, you know, it was obviously a scary time being Queens was kind of in the epicenter of it. So we were here full-time for about a month and we, you know, with the kids kind of just cooped up in the apartment and then we kinda were afraid we were gonna lose it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=296.0,354.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: So we went, we drove to my in-laws and stayed in their basement in Rhinebeck for a little bit, for a few months. And, then, you know, around the summer kind of came back here full time. But it's been challenging. It's been, you know, I think, you know, for like many people, it's just been one of those years where people sorta alternatively take stock of their lives and and appreciate their health and appreciate their loved ones and also kind of you know, worry for everyone out there. I think everybody knows people who got sick, people who passed away. You know, we hear these sirens, all day, and that we-- it's funny, I had this neighbor across the way with these three large Siberian Huskies. And whenever a siren would go by these three Siberian Huskies would come to the balcony and just howl their brains out.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=354.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: And it seems like all the dogs in the neighborhood, like howl every time there's a siren going by. And so it was this bizarre feeling where you just kind of hear these dogs like howling all day. And at the beginning it was really strange, you know, where I am constantly see airplanes in the sky and for awhile there, we just, we didn't see any airplanes in the sky. You know, there'd be, the sky would be kind of dark and all the lights would be on in people's windows. And from where we're at, you can just see a lot of people's windows and lights. And so I can show you quickly. I don't know if you could see anything at all.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=413.0,449.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Yeah, yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=449.0,452.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: And so we would just kind of see the city stand still, which felt really eerie. In the last few months we've seen the airplanes start to come back, which is, you know, in its own way, a kind of nice, refreshing sign that maybe we're on our way back to normalcy. In terms of writing, those first few months, I couldn't write at all, what I was doing mostly, I mean, I was revising what I was doing was I kind of buried myself in revising, so I needed to do some, some sort of work. And what I find is that when you to write new work, you really have to be aware of your world. You have to sort of be in touch with the world and let the world in. But when you revise, you can kind of keep the world out and kind of jump back into the world of that poem and when you initially wrote it, so I found myself revising a lot those first few months. But after it starting to rub out, maybe late April early may, I started writing new work, and really wanting to process what was happening through writing, which is kind of how I processed the world. I find that like, I need to sort of articulate things to make sense of it. I think a lot of writers feel that way, that you need to sort of find words to it in order to move forth. So, yeah, no, I've been, I happily and thankfully got into a bit of a writing groove, you know, around April, May and, you know, then kind of from there, it's the you know, the rise and fall of a writer's life, you know, some months I'll be more productive, sometimes I'll be less, but yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=452.0,552.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: And also thinking about you were saying about interiors and memories, I guess, the overall support of it. So thinking about your memories, your memories of childhood or memories of the past year, what are some things that stand out that maybe you would like to investigate that maybe investigating in a poem that we'll be able to read? that you'll be able to read together with us? So what were some of the stand out memories?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=552.0,577.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: I mean, well, there's certainly the pandemic, but even before that, I really, one of the things that really made me feel like I was in Queens was probably the 2016 election, when Trump was elected and to feel sort of, cause it was such a divided nation, but Queens felt really United. And at least to me in this sort of shock and, you know, suffering, everyone here seemed very unhappy. And at least I felt like, walking outside, I could kind of, in that moment, grieve with my community,and like sort of like take stock of it together. I didn't feel, well, I guess I felt very close to Queens, not home because I felt like we were all sort of unhappy together. And I did write about that about the immediate aftermath of sort of the election and what had happened. I don't know if you remember, it seemed like a day after, or two days after, the great singer songwriter, Leonard Cohen, we found out he'd passed away sort of right on the heels of that. And so I wrote about those sort of two things coming together, and a poem that sort of was the, yeah, it was sort of like my response to the election and it allowed me to process it in my own way.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=577.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Thank you.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=660.0,661.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: So yeah, I feel like to read that poem out particularly. Yeah. I can read that one. It's in my first collection, called Go Because I Love You. I should find it. Let me here. So, Leonard Cohen's last album, the one he put out about a month before he died was called You want it darker. And so I called my title. And you'll see it begins with the very aftermath of the election.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=661.0,683.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: You Want it Darker \n[By Jared Harel] The day after the election, Leonard Cohen dies and my eye gets infected, and my daughter flies around the living room refusing to put on underwear. I can barely lift my head to see the smug sun pouring through the blinds, streaming its white spotlight on each darkened wall. I’m all in on grief and misery. All in shock and Fuck this Country, but it’s still a day, a day I don’t teach, but strap my son into his Cheerio- encrusted stroller and wheel him to his ‘baby-taps’ dance class at the Y. We arrive to find the teacher red-eyed and wrecked, her t-shirt wrinkled, acoustic slung low. Only one other parent has bothered to show, her kid wailing beneath the moon-glow of her phone. When it becomes clear no one else is coming, the teacher begins to strum and sing of fall, of piggies at market and monkeys in our beds. We squeeze our fingers into spinning fists and imagine we are busses peeling out of town. It all culminates in the world’s saddest rendition of “If you’re happy and you know it,” in which we’re summoned to rise up off our multi-colored mats, to clap and stomp and shout, Hooray! — Oh, God. Oh, Leonard, who shed this life like a pinstripe suit, who saw this mess and chose not to stay, but slip between the bricks in his Tower of Song, the sun is still out there, armored and gleaming. There is nothing I can say to make it stop.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=683.0,795.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Thank you. So you're also mentioning, you worked in the editorial board of the poetry audio project created by KC Trommer as well as on the editorial board for the short time of Newtown literary. Tell us a bit about your experiences working with community organizations and how and how these experiences informed your practice.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=795.0,820.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: Yeah, it's, you know, it's funny. I had a poetry community in undergrad a little bit, and then in Cornell I was in an MFA program and obviously that was like a built community program, but I never really had a writing community quite as strong as the one I've found here in Queens. One that really feels like a community. And I think, part of that's been aided by things like Newtown Lit, QCA and obviously, Queensbound. So what Queensbound is it's this audio project, that KC put together in which for every subway stop, she's enlisted a Queens writer to write a poem sort of in, with that stop in mind, with that place in Queens in mind. And so it becomes sort of this audio map of poetry, archival map of the borough.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=820.0,874.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: And so you get kind of all these diverse voices and points of view. And so there's this. So if you go to the website, you can kind of see the Queens subway maps, and you can click on each green dot and you'll get both the visual and the audio of the poem. And so that's really kind of great. And I think it's become a nice metaphor for the Queens writing community, this, you know, widespread and from all corners of the world, but really interconnected, really, kind of becoming a community. You know, I have a writing circle, a writing group that I've been with now for about five or six years, and we meet monthly even over the pandemic. We met over zoom. And you know, sometimes we joke it's called like writer therapy, but really it's just kind of a way to see each other and hold each other accountable and have goals. And, you know, really just kind of be there for one another as writers, writing's, this really solitary act for many of us. But I do think that a writing community can be really important in that sense.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=874.0,941.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Yeah. So, also in regards to your experience, working with the, NYC based rock band, we can talk a little bit about that and how that has-- how was that for you and how has that kind of influenced your principal practice or anything or, yeah. What is that about?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=941.0,959.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: Yeah, I'm a drummer I've been in bands since high school. And I really like the balance between being a musician and a writer. Like I was saying, writing is this sort of solitary thing where you're the, you know, you're the writer or the director, the CEO you're in control of the page, you know, and there's something really nice about that control as a writer and sort of having your vision kind of completely there and it's on you. And if you decide not to write that day, nobody's going to care really. And what you put into it is what you get out of it. And being in a band is really a nice balance to that. It's collaborative, it's musical, like I'll show up to band practice and I don't have, I can show up, you know, with no creative ideas, but maybe the guitarist will, or our singer will.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=959.0,1009.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: And you kind of feed off the creativity of one another. And so it's collaborative and it's, you know, it's a lot of fun in that way. I mean, I'd say if there's parallels, it probably has to do with rhythm, as a drummer, I pay a lot attention to rhythm both in the song and also in the poem. Sometimes if I'm reading a poem, I'll have to read it out loud, over and over again, even at a poetry reading, I'll find myself like sort of stomping my feet, tapping my foot along to the rhythm and the cadence of the language. So I pay attention to those and I think that might be the overlap, but really what I like about being a drummer and what I like about being an abandoned, how different it is from being a writer. No, I'm not the song writer. I'm not the one coming in, you know, and here's what we're doing. I'm, I'm like, all right, tell me what you got and I'll try to keep us on time. So, you know, and that's obviously taken a hit during COVID as well. But we're just all, all of us in the band are vaccinated now, and we're starting to practice again without masks and that's been, been a lot of fun.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1009.0,1074.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Good, good. Also you gotta go into your teaching career. So tell us a bit about your experiences teaching and how that's evolved over the years. All this kind of stuff and some of the memorable interactions you've had, perhaps with some students in your classes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1074.0,1092.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: Yeah. I teach over Naussau Community College. So it's a pretty easy commute here from, from Rego park. And I, what I really liked the student population kind of like Queens to really diverse, varied student body. You know, I like, both in terms of kind of where people are coming from, and where they are in their lives. You have everything from people who just kind graduated high school to people who took years off from their school careers to have kids and get a job and are kind of coming back. You have people really juggling a lot with a lot on their plates. And so I really like working with that student body, teaching it's, you know, it's a profession that I find a lot of value in obviously some days more than others.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1092.0,1143.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: I like teaching, writing, I like teaching creative writing specifically. I found that teaching creative writing, especially during the pandemic has been pretty successful, that while a lot of students really didn't like student teaching or, you know, comp classes during the pandemic, they were really happy to write creatively. And like I said, kind of be able to articulate the moment, you know, were this idea of like a tone, you know, you're living through a historic time, you know, this is a good opportunity to be a creative writer. And just to kind of, you know, some of my students used it as an escape from what they were from, from their lives from their daily life, from being stuck in their house all day or whatever they were going through. So I found that while sometimes students were less enthused to like study grammar. They were quite interested in writing poems and doing creative writing free writes and going someplace else. So that's been nice. I was happy with how engaged a lot of my students were during the pandemic.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1143.0,1209.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Yeah. Great, great. Thanks so much. And then Let's also return to your writing about the individual artists grants, cause you received two of them from Queens Arts Council. Tells you what were they for and what was the projects you worked on for them?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1209.0,1227.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: So, yeah, the first one was I think for my chapbook and the second one was for my full length collection. And basically it was to write them, do the projects, and also to put a reading together. The main project I did was called Queens Poets and Parents, again, like I said, I'm interested in sort of interiors and, sort of the poetry of domesticity sometimes. I don't know how, how you categorize it, but I was interested in sort of the fact that Queens is so diverse, but one thing that does unite so many people is parenthood from all different walks of life. And just kind of curious with how parent writers juggle you know, this sort of very outward act of being a parent with this very interior act of writing. And do you know, so I'm interested in that myself as a writer and I found other writers in Queens who are interested in it. And so the first grant we did a reading it, at QED in Astoria. And the second one we did reading at LIC books, and both were great. It's, you know, it's always fun to kind of have in person readings. Hopefully we'll get back to those again soon. 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So you mentioned a little bit about just being able-- the obstacles and overcoming them.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1321.0,1359.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: Yeah. I mean, we sort--what we're doing those first few days of the pandemic feels like a lifetime ago.But I remember we would pretend we were getting the kids ready for school and like they get dressed and they put on their backpacks and then we set up chairs in a row, like they were going to a bus and then we'd even take a couple of walks around the block to make it going outside. And then I'd come up with projects for them. And, here, we'll try this project. We'll try that project. My mom teaches young children, so I kind of picked her brain for awhile. I was like got any good art projects for the kids. And you know, so those first few, you know, before anybody, but, I feel like initially there was this big shock and everything stood still. And then we sort of slowly found a way to move forward. But, I feel like in those first few weeks and months, it was really just sort of figuring out what we could do to get by. And yeah, I did a lot of, sorta parent teacher stuff.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1359.0,1427.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: You've got to keep the kids occupied especially during quarantine and keeping them engaged and keeping them occupied. So you must be glad about that,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1427.0,1434.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: Yeah, and obviously it's been great now that the school opened up again, both of my kids, they've been going to school four days a week. They go to PS 220, Edward Mendell school. And the school has done a really great job. They did a great job over the summer, sort of with the zoom meetings preparing and kind of getting a sense of what parents wanted. And obviously, you know, the first half year, especially was just a mess. They'd go to school for two days and then they'd be closed for two weeks and then they'd go to school for three days and it'd be closed for two weeks. So it was just, there was no continuity to it, which wasn't the school's fault. It was just the reality of the situation. And then since, you know, basically kind of starting with the spring, both kids have been going to school four days a week. And that's been nice that they see their friends they're there in the playground again. Mondays have been kind of a remote only day. So they kind of, the school decided to stick with Mondays being kind of a remote day.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1434.0,1493.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Yeah. And then also I want to get a little bit into kind of history. You mentioned a little bit of a being grandson of Holocaust survivors, but getting a little deeper into family history. Then, where your family's from and where your relatives are from all almost kind of thing where the family is coming from.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1493.0,1512.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: So I'll start with my mom's side. So my mom, both my mom's parents were from Poland. And were both Holocaust survivors. They both got put into the concentration camps around world war two. They knew each other. I thought about this recently. I thought they were from separate towns, but I actually spoke to my mom recently. I found out that they didn't know each other. They were from kind of the same general town area, didn't work close, but knew each other. And then after the war, my grandfather, when they let out the camps, he saw my grandmother sort of just sitting there on the ground. Cause like a lot of people got let out after these years and their family was gone and they didn't know what to do. And he saw her crying and he recognized her and he basically said like, come with me, I'll take care of you.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1512.0,1559.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: And they shortly after that took a boat to Sweden where my uncle was born, were there for a few years and then moved to Brooklyn where my mom was born. So my mom was born in Brooklyn and then they shortly moved to Cedarhurst in Long Island and she grew up there. On my father's side, his father was born in Algeria, moved to France, and then kind of enlisted in the army. It was like, oh, let me get my service then, because I had to, he had to do two years of service there. Lo and behold World War II happens. He gets caught up in the war on the fighting for the French army and is actually captured by the German soldiers and was a POW there for awhile. They didn't know he was Jewish.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1559.0,1609.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: So he was treated as a French soldier. And he was a POW there and actually escaped. He has this crazy story of how he escaped. This has nothing to do with Queens, but it was him and his buddy. They were sort of like working on like a work farm with German soldiers sort of keeping guard, but it was very, it wasn't at all like the concentration camps. It was much more laid back, I guess, was the phrase. Cause, you know, they saw them as fellow soldiers and so on and so forth. So him and his friend made it decided to make a run for it. And they had to cross over this Creek and the way he explained it was him and his friend made a run for it and they were running across the Creek and my grandfather heard one gunshot and he kept running.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1609.0,1656.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: And when he turned back, he saw his friend that they'd shot his friend and not him. And then he just kept running. I guess they decided to just take one of them out. And then he eventually moved. He moved back to France where he worked in a munitions factory for awhile and then immigrated to Israel. And my grandmother on my dad's side was living in Israel. She was one of a small, very small group of people who was there. For generations, never sort of moved with the rest of the Jews in their Exodus, throughout Europe and America. So she, her family had been there for generations. So they met there and they moved with the entire family to Queens, to Rego park, actually in the, this is where it connects back to Queens in the late sixties. So they moved, they moved to New York city as a whole family, like cousins and all, they left Israel in the sixties and moved to Queens to Rego Park. So I actually, where I live now is where about four blocks away from where my grandparents lived and my father lived for awhile as well. So it's yeah. So I remember coming to this area for like, you know, holiday dinners and things like that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1656.0,1741.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Yeah. Good. And then let's see, what else do we want to then it might be good to listen to how you met your wife and settled down in Rego park. So when you were living here, you moved around from long island and then you moved back to where you go park, what was the impetus?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1741.0,1765.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: Yeah, I grew up primarily in Long Island. My wife grew up just outside of Albany in a small town called Cobleskill, and we both went to Binghamton. So we met actually on a literary-- We were at the same literary journal, which is a very English major thing to do. We met on the same literary journal at Binghamton University. We were long distance for a little bit. When she went to law school, she went to law school at Cardozo. I went upstate to Cornell MFA program. And I proposed, I think my last year at Cornell, I proposed to her. And so we decided when we were both done with our grad programs to move in together. And so we moved to Astoria, then my brother was living in Astoria. Yeah. Actually both of my brothers were living in Astoria.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1765.0,1815.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: So I decided to come to Astoria and we had an apartment on 47th street, kind of a Ditmars area. And we still go there a lot. So it's a great area. My daughter does-- has a hip hop class there. And so we, we still go there a lot. So we rented an apartment there and we were there for about seven years. We got married actually yesterday, yesterday was our 11 year anniversary. So we got married 11 years ago. Stayed at, stayed there. We had my daughter was born in 2012. My son was born in 2015, in 2016 we decided we needed more space. We needed more space and we had suddenly, we had this... hadn't had a single mouse in our apartment and seven years in Astoria. And then one winter, I don't know what happened. I think the apartment next to us had construction and all these mice started flooding in. And between that and the family of four, it was time to move to another apartment. But yeah, the mouse thing was, was not great for me. I remember in particular one time at first, we, we found one mouse and I put a glue trap, and the mouse got stuck to it. Now I realized that that glue traps are really a bad way to go. But I put a glue trap out and I caught the small mouse and I remember bringing the mouse outside cause it's like a row house kind of apartment. And I remember bringing it outside on this glue trap being like, oh, no, like what do I do with the mouse now?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1815.0,1916.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: And I had this neighbor, he was a Greek mechanic slash piano player. He played in certain Greek music bands. His name was Spyros and he was out working on his car. He was, he was this really nice guy with these Jerry curls. And he wore very tight pants. I remember. And I remember I was out there and he's like, what are you doing out there? And I'm like, the mouse is stuck. And I saw these, there was a couple of neighborhood cats going around and I'm like, I can't put them in the garbage. The mice are going to eat them alive. This is terrible. What am I going to do? And so he takes it from me, walks into the middle of the street, puts it down on the street and says, and kind of a thick Greek accent. He goes to the cars on the street. They drive very fast. Okay.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1916.0,1967.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: And that was when I knew we had to start, we had to start getting, finding a new place, very fast. And I was like, oh no, but yeah. So then it was, we looked around to buy, we initially were looking to buy an Astoria. The prices were way out of our price range, to find something that we wanted. We looked into Forest Hills similarly, and then we kind of found our way to Rego Park because it was really close to Forest Hills. And we found an apartment we liked and the schools were good here and the sort of the commuting, both like my wife, community commutes to Midtown and I commute long island. And so the commute was really good for us. And so we found ourselves in Rego Park.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=1967.0,2016.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. So finally I guess we can start to wrap up, but any last thoughts of touching on last topics touching on more?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=2016.0,2039.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: If you want, I could read one more of those poems. I can read you the poem I wrote. I wrote for Queensbound.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=2039.0,2043.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Yeah. That'd be good.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=2043.0,2044.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: Yeah. It was-- it's a little bit about being priced out of Astoria. Yeah. And there's a little bit of that and it also a little bit about sort of living in a small apartment, and a little bit about God knows what else. It's called.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=2044.0,2063.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: All Possible Fates. The universe is expanding, but my apartment is not. This is balance I tell myself, tripping over trikes, toy blocks, the way a housecat can convince itself a mattress is wilderness, its very own Savannah, or how no one in the neighborhood can afford the neighborhood, though we ghost past townhouses, pretending they are ours. In the end, isn’t it in our nature to disperse? To pull away? When my daughter begs to play hide-and-seek, I try my best not to find her immediately, though there are only so many places to hide. Then one day, sick of ducking behind sofa cushions, or under the desk, she slips into the bathroom, snaps down the lock. Three years old and well out of reach. Before I knew I too could disappear, I would leap off balconies, bunk beds and swings, bike to the brink of each dead-end street. I write this beside a man weeping into the Arts \u0026 Leisure section of the Times. His lips are quivering, face wet, yet what can I do but look away? I look away, but he’s in this now, fixed inside, like how my daughter was a door I threatened and pleaded with, until she felt like having pancakes, and turned the knob. I admit all fault, to all possible fates. Are we bound to be an airport where everyone leaves?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=2063.0,2163.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: I meant there's one part where I mentioned the man weeping into his arts and leisure section of Times. That was actually at the Queens Library. I think it was the Ditmars Branch one.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=2163.0,2174.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Nice. Yeah. It seems like also the themes of it are about, kind of comparing like your childhood to your child's, childhood all that. So I'd be curious to expand that a little more about how some of the points of reference you have about, you know, alot's been said about how the next generations are, you know, different people experiencing life differently, but any points of contact, you have a little bit more to articulate about how your experience of childhood was different from how you perceive your child's experiences of childhood is.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=2174.0,2207.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: They certainly seem smarter than, than I remember being. I don't know. I don't know if they have so much more accuracy as much more worldly. They have so much more access to things. My son is really into these YouTube videos about space and about digging to like the crust of the earth. And so he's like, he's just coming at me with all these facts. I don't know. I just remember like, you know, I remember I remember playing in my head a lot and I would, I would draw it right. But I, you know, kind of kicking rocks, and they seem to know so much more than I did at that age. I don't know if that's indicative of most kids of this generation. It certainly seems like between their sort of ability to handle technology. And now COVID, it seems like we're certainly raising up a particular generation right now.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=2207.0,2263.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: I don't know. I don't know if they're gonna call them. I just found out from my wife yesterday that I'm considered a geriatric millennial because I'm sort of a millennial, but I'm old enough to remember the pre-internet days. You know, I was born in 82, so that I'm considered a geriatric millennial. I have no idea what this current generation is gonna be called, maybe COVID generation or what, but they certainly seem, they seem to know more. And that obviously we, as we've seen the past couple of years, this upcoming generation is really active in terms of social political issues. They're very environmentally conscious, but they also seem kind of while they, while they band together for social issues and racial issues and justice and all those things, they do seem to be further apart from each other than I remember being in my childhood.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=2263.0,2318.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nJared Harel: You know, I think technology, obviously COVID has something to do with that, but I am a little afraid of this new generation being so isolated from one another, you know, going to school, wearing masks every day, you know, obviously it's for safety and health, but it's also, you know, I can't imagine, you know, with their brains sort of being kind of developing at the rate, they're developing and seeing so many fewer faces than I remember seeing growing up, you know? So, they're a resilient bunch though. I'll tell you that. So I think I think there'll be all right.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=2318.0,2355.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331/transcript/31546/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nVijay Ramanathan: Yeah. Thanks so much. All right, so we'll wrap up then. And again is Vijay R Nathan or Vijay Ramanathan. Then we're here with Jared Harel and we finished up our interview with the Queens Memory project. So thanks so much for being here. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/46936/file/120331#t=2355.0,2376.08"}]}]}]}