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Her father was a Harvard educated architect and her mother worked for the United Nations; both experienced racism in the workplace.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eFlorence describes growing up in Forest Hills, which at the time was an all-white neighborhood, so she and her brother had to deal with racism; out of the 4,000 students at Forest Hills High School only 3 were Asian, and her brother was routinely beat-up. But she always had a good group of friends, and was safe with them. She also talks about food, visiting Chinatown in Manhattan to grocery shop and to get fireworks, and how Forest Hills has changed since she was a child. Now she is one of many Asians in the area, and she is very comfortable in Queens. She describes what it is like to be an American born Chinese-American, and how she is both American and Chinese: “I have stopped trying to figure it out, but that is one of the reasons I’m living in Forest Hills - I don’t have to figure it out.”\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eShe serves on the board of her co-op and she talks about her building's structural problems, management problems, the politics of co-op buildings, and how she and other tenants worked together to remove bad management in her building.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCC BY-NC-SA Contact digitalarchives@queenslibrary.org for research and reproduction requests.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["http://digitalarchives.queenslibrary.org/search/browse/45464"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2021-03-13 (created)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Florence Chien (Interviewee)","Silin Yang (Interviewer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Coverage"]},"value":{"en":["1940s-2021 (temporal)","Forest Hills, Queens, NY; Chinatown, Manhattan, NY; Boston, MA; Shanghai, China (spatial)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eSummary of Full Interview\u003c/strong\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eAn interview with Florence Chien who was born in 1954 and grew up in Forest Hills, Queens. After college, graduate school, and living in Boston, she now calls Forest Hills home once again. Florence\u0026rsquo;s parents both came to the U.S. from Shanghai separately to attend college and met in New York, where they were married in 1952. Her father was a Harvard educated architect and her mother worked for the United Nations; both experienced racism in the workplace.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eFlorence describes growing up in Forest Hills, which at the time was an all-white neighborhood, so she and her brother had to deal with racism; out of the 4,000 students at Forest Hills High School only 3 were Asian, and her brother was routinely beat-up. But she always had a good group of friends, and was safe with them. She also talks about food, visiting Chinatown in Manhattan to grocery shop and to get fireworks, and how Forest Hills has changed since she was a child. Now she is one of many Asians in the area, and she is very comfortable in Queens. She describes what it is like to be an American born Chinese-American, and how she is both American and Chinese: \u0026ldquo;I have stopped trying to figure it out, but that is one of the reasons I\u0026rsquo;m living in Forest Hills - I don\u0026rsquo;t have to figure it out.\u0026rdquo;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eShe serves on the board of her co-op and she talks about her building's structural problems, management problems, the politics of co-op buildings, and how she and other tenants worked together to remove bad management in her building.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCC BY-NC-SA Contact digitalarchives@queenslibrary.org for research and reproduction requests.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Queens Public Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Queens Public Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/010/original/Aviary_QPLlogo_192x192.png?1578574261","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/116/861/small/Screenshot_%2896%29.png?1623146698","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Chien_Florence_Video.mp4"]},"duration":3066.32,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/116/861/small/Screenshot_%2896%29.png?1623146698","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-queenslibrary.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/116/861/original/Chien_Florence_Video.mp4?1623146320","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":3066.32,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Full Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Oh, okay. So Flo, do you agree to the terms and conditions outlined in the Queens Memory informed consent and copyright permission form that I shared with you over email?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=0.0,15.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Yes, I do.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=15.0,16.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Thank you. This is Silin Yang with Flo Chien. We are recording on March 13th, 2021 for the Queens memory Project. Flo could you say your full name and spell it?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=16.0,32.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Florence Ling-Cheng Chien F L O R E N C E. Middle name is L I N G hyphen C H E N G. Last name is C H I E N.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=32.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Thank you so much, so you mentioned that your parents immigrated to the U.S. From Shanghai, China many years ago. Um, when did they arrive and why did they decide to settle down in New York?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=45.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Well, actually they arrived here independently. They met in New York. So yeah, so, my mother came to the US in 1946, right after the war. And she went to the University of Michigan. She was completely bilingual and, she wanted to major in English. So, she was getting her BA there and my father left Shanghai in 1948. And he ended up going to the University of Michigan for one year and then transferred to Harvard, to the graduate school of design, where he got his Master's of Architecture. And they both ended up in New York, which you know--now I've been to Shanghai twice. I think New York is a lot like Shanghai, very similar energy, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom. [Laughter] So I can understand why they settled in New York. And they met at a party. And, um, my, uh, my father, both of them spoke Mandarin perfectly, but my father had a heavy Shanghai accent. And so the way, you know, most Chinese do when they meet each other, they spoke Mandarin just because it's the, it's the national dialect. And my mother immediately said to him, you're from Shanghai, let's speak Shanghai dialect. So they started dating and they got married in 1952. And then, I was born in 1954 in New York, and then my brother was born three--three years later. So yeah, they met here. I saw them gradually become more Americanized as I was growing up and my father's English - he really perfected it. Um, so, uh, yeah, they became New Yorker's. They were not able to go back to China until the seventies because the cultural revolution, you know, well, first of all, China shut down its borders in 1949. And so nobody was going out or in. And so the whole time I was growing up, there was this sense of heaviness. Like they were slowly realizing they may never see their families again. They both came here to go to school and they thought they would go back after a few years. They never thought they would be here for over 30 years and not able to see their families. And we had really no idea what was going on with with our families in China, because they would send, mail all the time, like at least once a week. And you'd get these blue aerogrammes, very lightweight. and they would be censored by the Chinese government. There'd be heavy black magic marker. So we didn't know what they were not able to tell us. And then finally, in the seventies, President Nixon opened up relations, diplomatic relations with China. And my father was able to go the first year they were letting foreigners in cause my parents were US citizens by then. And then my mother, brother, and I went the following year and I met my whole family for the first time. [laughter]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=60.0,255.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Family, meaning your parents, parents, right?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=255.0,260.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: And everybody, all the cousins and aunts and uncles. Because I grew up with just my parents and my brother here. So it was amazing. We, we took the, the only way that you could visit China in the early years, was you had to take a tour. So we took a tour by bus and a, little short plane ride in China. And then, our tour ended in Shanghai and I remember we got off the train and there were like 30 members of my family on the train platform and my brother and I just burst out crying. I looked just like them. I just fit right in. So that was amazing.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=260.0,305.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Yeah. Great. Wonderful. And, you told me that you were born in Forest Hills, right? Uh what was Forest Hills like back then?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=305.0,318.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: So different. The main change is the demographics. it was very hard for us growing up here, me and my brother, because the neighborhood was all white and we endured a lot of racism from the time we were little kids, people calling us chinks and you know, the kids chasing us and beating us up, and making fun of us. because there was no Chinese community here and my parents didn't really understand what we were going through. We were very, very isolated. We always felt, like outsiders, we were outsiders. I went to Forest Hills High School and there were 4,000 students in the high school and there were only three of us Asians. So yeah, it's totally different now because I think one out of every four people in Forest Hills is Chinese. I moved back here. So I left in 1972 after high school, I've lived a bunch of places. And then I moved back here to Forest Hills in 2006 and knock on wood. I have not encountered any racism in Forest Hills in 14 and a half years, which is the first time in my life out of all the places I've lived.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=318.0,407.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Yeah, absolutely. It's a very diverse, and safe neighborhood now I would say. So when you were a little, when you were growing up here, the only three Asian families, at least the kids in your school, only three were Asian.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=407.0,428.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Yes. Yep.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=428.0,431.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Did you, did you form a bond?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=431.0,438.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Nope. I think we were all kind of weirded out about, you know, we were conflicted about being, they were both also Chinese American. I think being Chinese American was not a good thing for me or for my brother. He really got beat up all the way through junior high school and in high school, in fact, it was so bad in high school that he just stopped going to school because he was so afraid, rightfully so, that he was going to get beat up again. So he got left back a year. He had to repeat one grade and then, um, my parents transferred him to a smaller private school. He had been going to a public school and the private school was better. And, he got more attention and, and he caught up and, you know, ended up getting his MBA. But, basically I felt that there was nothing good about being Chinese except the food. And that was good.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=438.0,500.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Interesting, interesting. So I want to ask you, so you said that your parents were highly educated. They went to very good schools in the US. Did they face any racism or it was just the little kids, like the Chinese kids were experiencing racism, but relatively speaking, your parents were doing fine?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=500.0,525.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: They experienced racism in the workplace. my mother was a career woman at the United Nations from the time that the United Nations was formed. And, she had a variety of jobs there, she worked there for over 35 years. My father was an architect and he was always the only Asian person, probably the only minority person in his firm. He worked for a very prestigious firm. And, I know that he expected to get farther in his career. He had a, he had a master's from Harvard. he had been a perfect student. He studied with the very famous architect, Walter Gropius. My father was brilliant and, he was a real scholar. He was in the last generation of Chinese scholars. They don't teach like that anymore. And, you know, he could recite, all this Chinese stuff the whole, the whole thing. but I, I remember years later, I was living in Boston and I was working at Harvard and I was complaining to my father that I just couldn't get ahead. And he said, yeah, well, if you're darker skin, you better forget about it. And I thought, wow, there's so much pain behind that statement.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=525.0,610.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: And I know that my mother used to come home and complained about her boss at the UN who happened to be American. And he did not like foreigners. This guy was a manager at the UN and only promoted Americans.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=610.0,624.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: I see, interesting stories that you are sharing right now because, um, luckily for us, we have never experienced something like this. How fortunate, how times have changed. a lot of things have changed for the better. And so I wanted to ask you, about your first memories of home. Were you able to have any friends, with, um, say white Americans or others?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=624.0,659.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Yes. I always had a lot of friends. I've always been very sociable. So, I grew up in an apartment building and my best friend Debbie was, American of German background. Her parents came from Germany and she and I were together pretty much all the time. And we have a little, we had a little group of girlfriends, so yeah. I always had friends. so yeah, that, that was never a problem. My friends treated me well and, and you know, I was safe with them.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=659.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: By the way about food, uh, did your parents make you Chinese food at home?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=690.0,696.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Oh yeah. They were both excellent cooks. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I really well, and, uh, we never had like canned or frozen anything. It was all fresh, fresh, fresh, and, lots of seafood. And what we did was we went to Chinatown every weekend. So the only time we drove our car, we went to Chinatown because that was the only place you could get Chinese groceries at that time. It was the only place that you buy tofu. Now tofu is like, you know, you can buy it in Missouri, and everybody knows about it. But at that time you had to go to Chinatown and I loved our trips to Chinatown because it was the only place I could see people who looked like me. And, it was the only place we could go where people would not be making fun of us.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=696.0,744.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Wow. Yeah. Yeah.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=744.0,748.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: it was safe. I grew up with a lot of trauma not being safe. So, the great thing about Chinatown was not just, the food, but just the whole culture. Like we always went to the same grocery store back then. Well, we always, my father had his favorite clerk at the grocery store and, back then that grocery store had one cash register. But around of the store, hanging from the walls on hooks were abacuses, abacus. They used abacus.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=748.0,791.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: So, you know, we put the groceries together and then the guy would just go check it and then hand us a piece of paper. And, 4th of July, we would always go there and my father would find his favorite clerk and whisper something in his ear. And they would go downstairs together and my father would buy fireworks,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=791.0,819.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: To me it was so daring because my father was like totally straight arrow on everything. Just like, you know, his shirts were perfectly pressed and everything, but then he would buy fireworks cause they were illegal. And I just couldn't believe my father was doing that, but that was always fun to see that other side of my father.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=819.0,837.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Fireworks on the 4th of July? Yes. Interesting. Yep. Yep. He also bought fireworks for Chinese new year, or just for the 4th of July?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=837.0,849.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: That's the 4th of July because there would be no sense in setting them off for Chinese new year because nobody knew what it was. There were no other Chinese around. If we wanted to experience Chinese new year. We would go to Chinatown.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=849.0,863.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: I see. So you guys did fireworks on the, where, in your backyard or somewhere?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=863.0,869.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Well the block where we lived has this big, we used to call it the alley. A big chunk of that block is, empty space. It's been paved and the garages are there for the houses. And so we would just go down to the empty space and he would set off the fireworks there. So it was very safe.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=869.0,893.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Okay. I see. I guess, what were your neighbors doing on the 4th of July?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=893.0,903.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: If we set Off fireworks on February, they'd be like, what the heck is going on? Nobody would have known,\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=903.0,913.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: I want to add that. One of the, one of the fun things that my brother and I enjoyed when we were kids is because all of our friends were not Chinese. We love to bring them over to our house and show them the contents of our refrigerator because there was all this weird stuff. How about this fermented tofu?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=913.0,938.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: And then, for Thanksgiving, sometimes we didn't make Turkey, Turkey. It was boring to us. We would make Peking duck, Beijing duck. And so you start out by, we had a house by then and so you start out by hanging the duck so that the skin can separate from the flesh. And then later on two days later, when you cook it, the excess fat can run out until you get the crispy skin. So of course my parents would hang this, in the basement and my brother and I had to bring our friends over to show them the duck because Americans are so grossed out by that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=938.0,975.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Oh yeah. You try to, talk to ... talk to Americans about Chinatown. They will tell you, oh, there's all those ducks hanging up. Where do you think your food comes from? It doesn't grow in these packages.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=975.0,987.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: So, yeah. Yeah. So you, you, you said you traveled a lot right after Forest Hills. Where did you go? And uh, why did you come back? Okay. Where did you go? First of all.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=987.0,1002.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: I went to collegein Upstate New York. I was not ready for college, I dropped out. I worked in a factory for a month and I worked at a record store and where I was living, it was raining all the time and I was tired of it. So my then boyfriend and I, this was something that was very, very common back then, but now it sounds shocking now. My then boyfriend and I decided to hitchhike to Arizona. So that's what we did. It took us four days and three nights to get to Arizona. We lived there for a while. Then we lived in Colorado and then we came back East because my parents were so worried about me. They said, listen, go back to college. We'll pay for everything. So I took them up on that and I went to college in Northern New York on the Canadian border.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1002.0,1042.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: And then I did my junior year abroad in France because I'd been studying French since I was 14. And I always really wanted to get fluent in the language. And so I lived in France for a year. And during my time in France, I traveled to Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, England, and Ireland. And then when I came back, I finished college in Northern New York and a few years later, I went to Ohio to go to Graduate School. And I got my Master's of Fine Arts at Ohio University in painting. And then after three years in Ohio, I moved to the Boston area and I lived there for 22 years, in Boston and I managed not to get that terrible accent I really worked hard at it. So, the reason I moved back here was there's no place like New York, Boston was good for a while, but I was getting older and older and it's a college town.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1042.0,1116.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: And I also was always the only Asian in whatever workplace I was in. And it's a provincial city compared to New York. It's not diverse. There's a dominant culture. One of the things I love about New York is there is no dominant culture. It changes from neighborhood to neighborhood, Boston's much, much smaller. And they expect you to be like them. I mean, all the ladies at my last office, which was a law firm in Boston, would be so shocked that I was not making a turkey for Thanksgiving. Every Thanksgiving, I had to try to justify myself as to why I was not making a Turkey. And it was, it was tiresome.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1116.0,1159.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Hmm. I, I think nowadays a lot of immigrants make the Turkey sometimes just as a statement of fitting in. Right?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1159.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Yeah. My parents did that for a little while and we all said, you know, this is not that interesting. Let's go back to the duck.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1170.0,1182.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Hmm. Interesting. So the, so New York is more diverse and you like that, I guess. And do you think your experience of traveling a lot was common for the other Chinese Americans or there was something in you, that, that made you want to travel or be away from home or there was something there that's specific to you?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1182.0,1210.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: You know, I have no idea about, other Chinese Americans, because I have never had a Chinese American friend my age, not a single one because my parents came here in the last years that you could get out of China and then the doors shut. I know that if I had grown up on the West coast, I would have had Chinese American friends, but here in New York, I just never found any, I never encountered any, you know, if I'd lived in Chinatown, sure. But we lived in Forest Hills. So I have no idea what other Chinese Americans have been doing all this time. I left home, because I originally wanted to go to college in New York City and stay in New York City. But my father and I were fighting all the time. He wanted me, he and my mother, both, but he more so wanted me and my brother to be more Chinese.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1210.0,1269.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: And it was totally irrational. It was emotional. He was homesick, you know, now I realize it, and he was taking it out on us. I think I'm independent by nature. I was an independent little girl. And so I just needed to get away from my family because, you know, I grew up with this in a strict family and meanwhile, all of my friends were white and they were, they had so much more freedom than I did. Oh my goodness. You know, even when I was 18, I was allowed out one night, a week. I had to come home by 10:30. If I could not tell my parents in advance who was bringing me home, my father would come and get me in his car. You know how humiliating that is. So, yeah, it was a, it was a, a very strict upbringing. and thing is, is I, I never knew whether this is how my parents are, or this is Chinese culture. Now I have some friends from China and we talk and I find out that a lot of what my parents did was just Chinese stuff. And it was normal to them. But to me, it's, it seemed crazy because none of my other friends were being brought up like this.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1269.0,1358.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: So what was your brother like? Oh, how was your relationship with your brother? Did you kind of lean on each other because you grew up the same way you understood each other? How is it or how was it?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1358.0,1372.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: We were close when we were a little kids and then we kind of drifted apart because we had different interests. Since my mother passed away and then since my father passed away, he and I have become much closer. And one of the great things for both of us during this pandemic, if anything can be positive is, is we've been talking more because I've been laid off and he's only one working one day a week. So for the first time, in many years, I have time to talk to my friends and talk to my brother. So, so yeah, we're, we're really close now, which is great.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1372.0,1412.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: I see. I see. That's good. I think you also mentioned that a little bit, that since you came back to Forest Hills, um, the neighborhood obviously has a lot of change. Well, why did you, why did you decide to, to settle down in Forest Hills specifically? I know you were born here and then you left for many, many years, and then you came back to New York. Why Forest Hills?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1412.0,1436.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Cause I know that it's a good neighborhood. I planned to buy an apartment and, I felt that it was the right time to come here and look for an apartment to buy because Forest Hills has not yet been discovered. I knew that Brooklyn, Brooklyn has been hot for a while. And, Astoria, is hot now, Long Island City, of course, it's going to come here. It has to. And even if it doesn't, I know that the value of the real estate here is going to stay at least fairly stable because of Forest Hills Gardens. I think of that as the value anchor for our neighborhood and because we have the subway lines and the Long Island Railroad. So part of it was I find this to be a pleasant neighborhood and part of it was just a real estate decision.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1436.0,1495.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Yeah. And, uh, have you noticed any changes in terms of like new parks or like any, any changes, physical changes or other changes you noticed?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1495.0,1510.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: I'm old enough that I remember when I was a kid, there were still quite a lot of, empty partial lots in forest hills that were just forest, woods, and big rocks. And, the block where Birchwood Towers are the three, blonde colored buildings - when I was a kid that entire block was just forest, it had not been developed. Can you imagine? So I used to live across the street from there and I would go there every day to play. And then one day when I was about five years old, I went there and they had roped it off. You could not enter anymore. And it broke my heart and that's when they started building Birchwood Towers. So yeah, I hate those buildings\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1510.0,1571.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: That was after you came back to Forest Hills or\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1571.0,1575.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: That was, um, that was they, they built Birchwood Towers. They started building it in like 1961, something like that. But, um, one of the changes in Forest Hills physically is pretty much the same. You know, there's more development. There's, they've torn down a bunch of the smaller houses and built bigger houses. And, you know, the zoning has been changing so that you can build taller buildings along Queens Boulevard. But the main change is on Austin Street our shopping street because when I was a kid that was the greatest place to go shopping. It was all little mom and pop stores. The only one left is \"Cheeses of the World\". That's the only one left I used to go there in junior high school in the sixties. So, um, it's really hasn't changed much, but everything else is different. You know, the fact that we've had big stores like Victoria's Secret, I know is closed now, but there was nothing like that. There were no national brands on Austin Street when I was a kid. And it was fascinating, you know, it was really a neighborhood feeling. There were all these delis you could go in and you knew the people and they own the business. So that's, that's really changed. It's not as interesting as before that's for sure.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1575.0,1653.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Well, it's a, it's a bigger neighborhood now and for people that's less personal, it's not a small town. So moving on to my next question, there is a stereotype that Asians living in the US, like even Asian-Americans, are not quite American. So as someone born in America, how do you feel about being Asian American? Do you feel being accepted as American?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1653.0,1686.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Well, my feeling about that changes like every five years, it has taken me a long time to figure that out a long, long time. for most of my adult life, I didn't really feel American because I wasn't treated as American. I was always treated as somebody different. I had this one coworker in Boston, she was an older lady. She should have known better, but she was this white lady who had never traveled, only spoke English. And she asked me, so do you speak Chinese? And I can get by in it, I'm not fluent. I, and I told her that, and, and I said, well, no, not really. And she said, well, you should. I was like, what, what? Cause I have this face, I have to speak Chinese. I was just totally confused by it. I grew up with very little sense of, of self and a right to a self identity that could be different from what people were telling me I should be.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1686.0,1749.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: First of all, I had the strict Chinese parents. My father used to lose his temper at me and my brother all the time because we didn't speak Chinese. And there, I have encountered many, many, many Chinese people who are mad at me because I don't speak Chinese. And it wasn't until maybe 20 years ago that I suddenly realized, wait a minute, I speak French because I lived in France. I had total immersion. I've never lived in China. So go away, leave me alone. You know, they'd given me such a complex, starting as a little kid and I had internalized it and felt so defeated in it that I didn't question it. the reality is, is when I, I went to, so I've been to China twice that time that I told you about earlier in the seventies.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1749.0,1807.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: And then I was able to go on business in 1995. I had a free evening and morning in Shanghai. And I was able to spend it with my relatives. We crammed like 20 people into an apartment, my relatives' apartment. And there was only one person, my uncle who had ever studied English. So we had to rely on my Chinese and I did it. I did it. Luckily we were in Shanghai and I spoke Shanghai dialect fluently when I was a kid. It gradually went away when I went to school was surrounded by English. But so yeah, that was amazing. I spent like four hours with them and I was able to bumble along and inmixed Shanghai and Mandarin dialects. so I'm really like, I'm both, I'm both Chinese and American and I have a couple, um, friends from China.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1807.0,1865.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Now one of them is always trying to figure me out. And I said, you're never going to figure me out, because you know, I talk like this, I move like an American. I do everything like an American, but then I'll do something totally Chinese. And she's like, what, what are you? I'm like, you're never gonna figure it out. So I have stopped trying to figure it out, but that's one of the reasons I'm living in Forest Hills - I don't have to figure it out. Nobody is demanding of me any more that I be one thing or the other thing.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1865.0,1897.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Very good point. Very good point. do you see more Asian Americans being integrated into the mainstream society?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1897.0,1906.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Yeah. Yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1906.0,1907.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: For one thing, when I was a kid, we were never in the media\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1907.0,1911.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Ever\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1911.0,1914.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: TV, radio, print, advertisements, movies, nothing. It was completely like being invisible. And I remember there was an ad campaign, they had these big posters in the subway, for this rye bread. And they had for each poster, they had a different ethnic face and there was one Chinese guy eating this piece of rye bread. And my family and I used to love seeing it was like, Hey, you know, somebody who looks like us for a change. But, yeah, when I was growing up, there was just this one Asian man, on Star Trek. So he was a hero of ours. Um, I can't remember your question.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1914.0,1964.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Well, I mean, more Asian Americans or more Asians being integrated into the mainstream America?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1964.0,1971.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Yeah, definitely. We have a lot more presence. And the fact that, I didn't watch president Biden's speech the other night, but I read that, he actually came out against the violence that's been going on against Asians in this country. And I was like, wow, he sees us that's amazing. So, so yeah, we are getting more integrated. There are more of us for one thing .I used to, when I was growing up, I used to yell at my TV set because we were not anywhere. And they used to have all these commercials, like apple pie, just like your grandma made. I'm like, my grandma has never seen an apple pie and I used to yell at the TV and say, we're here, we're here. We have money. We have money, you know, but their marketing didn't find out about us until, I don't know, 20 years ago and are still slow. You know, they just had one, series with Chinese people in it. And that was the first one in what, 20 years. So\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=1971.0,2039.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Yeah. Are you talking about \"Fresh Off Boat\"?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2039.0,2041.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Because the last one before that was Margaret Cho show. Oh, I can't remember what it was called. and that was years ago. They're, missing out on a lot of dollars there, we're here and we have money to spend they're being stupid.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2041.0,2061.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Okay. So, you have served on the board of directors for our building for many years, and I noticed many improvements. So what drew you to serve on the board? And do you have any interesting stories to share as a board member?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2061.0,2075.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Oh boy. Do I have stories? Um, well I'm glad you see the improvements.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2075.0,2081.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Yes.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2081.0,2081.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: We worked hard.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2081.0,2088.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: I found out that they were real problems and previous, previous board members, resident shareholders had sold their apartments and left. They fought for a while and they gave up and they sold their apartments and left. So when I bought my apartment at the end of 2011, there was literally no board. And, you know, I'm the daughter of an architect. I just started noticing problems. And I had not done my due diligence before buying my apartment because I fell in love with my apartment. So it was only after I started noticing things that I got on the department of buildings website, which I use routinely at work, but I didn't think of looking up my own building. and I found out that we had, a big crack in the facade and it was not being addressed. So I had to make a choice.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2088.0,2153.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: I was either either going to sell my apartment, or I was going to run for board. It was a tough decision to make because I knew it was going to be a long, hard fight. I knew it, but I, I also love, love, love my apartment. This is the first place I've ever owned. And before this, I counted up, I have rented 25 different apartments with all the places I've lived. I was so tired of moving. I wanted to be a grownup and have my own place and just stop moving, throw out all the boxes and not move again. And my apartment was everything that I've been looking for, except for it had bad management. So I looked at my background as a legal assistant and as the daughter of an architect, and I know how driven and focused I am and I thought I can do it.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2153.0,2215.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: And you know, it's funny. I just realized the other night, there was this, I forgot that this was an inspiration of mine. years ago. See, I, I came of age during the Vietnam war and, it affected everybody of my generation very deeply. It was just so tragic. And, um, I remember watching this 10 part Canadian documentary on the Vietnam war and it started with the French. I remember they interviewed this one Vietnamese man. And he said through an interpreter, yes, they have superior technology, but this is our home. And I thought about that when I was trying to decide whether to run for board. And I thought that is how I feel that the people that I want to win over, which was the prior management of this building, they are lawyers, they are wealthy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2215.0,2281.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: they have connections, but this is my home. I thought all I need is determination. And so I decided to do it. And we've had a lot of victories. It has been exhausting, but it's much, much better. So stories - well one thing that I can share is when I was new to the board, our co-op lawyer found a provision in the coop's bylaws where if we had enough votes, we would be able to take over the board. And so my fellow board member Corey at that time, he and I decided to split up the building and he obtained proxy vote signatures from the lower half of the building. And I obtained them from the upper half of the building. We just, we did everything we could, we didn't know anybody here, neither of us. And I mean, I would find out from the doorman, when does so-and-so get home.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2281.0,2351.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: And I would just like, sit on the couch and wait for the person to come in. And I couldn't just say, can I have your signature? I had to explain the whole thing. Why do I want your signature? You know, but we were amazingly successful. Amazingly people just believed us. And, they readily gave us their signatures. There were only two people that we didn't get out of the whole building. so then when we had the annual meeting where these votes were going to get counted up, the bad guys, as I call them were not expecting us to have all these votes. I walked in with this huge bunch of paper under my arm, and they, they kind of freaked out and they adjourned the meeting. And the next morning they called our lawyer and offered to me through him to buy my apartment for 10% above market rate cash, because they wanted to get rid of me.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2351.0,2415.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: I was like 10%, but that was, that was a really good feeling. And, then the other thing they said to our lawyer was, well, we're willing to make concessions - you can choose independent management. And so that's when we really started to win. When we got our own independent management company, a nationwide company, that's publicly traded, you know, governed by the SEC, they've been excellent. Excellent. We know where the money is going. We're gradually fixing things. So, so yeah, that's, that's, that's a story that I wanted to share with you because, um, if you really work hard, you can have surprising results. I was not expecting that we would get independent management, but it has changed everything.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2415.0,2469.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: I'm so grateful. Thank you.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2469.0,2483.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: And I've been especially grateful, appreciative because you know, during this pandemic, I'm mostly home and I'm like, I do love my apartment. I'm so glad I stayed here.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2483.0,2495.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: So what else do you do? Do you do anything for fun in the neighborhood, any hobbies?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2495.0,2501.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Oh, I have too many hobbies. in the neighborhood, I just like to walk around. I like shopping on Austin Street. It is a lot like shopping in France because you just go to these little stores and you talk to the people and you see them, you know, regularly. So they know you, you know them. I've gotten to know some of the shopkeepers here. We have nice talks. walking in Forest Hills Gardens is always a pleasure. Yeah. as far as hobbies, um, I go through phases with doing artwork, but I still have done artwork over the years. I play guitar and I sing, I tried to dance every day in my living room because I studied a lot of dance and I've been writing a book. So I took a break on writing the book because I was so busy with the board and just burned out for three years, but now I'm getting back into it. So that's my primary hobby. I believe that I can sell a lot of copies of it. So I'm going to keep working on it. And maybe that could fund my retirement.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2501.0,2579.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: You can count on me to buy one copy.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2579.0,2584.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: I should sell advance copies.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2584.0,2596.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Um, you also mentioned that you go to the Buddhist temple, right?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2596.0,2602.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Yes. It's um, it's actually not a temple because the Buddhism that I practice, which is called Nichiren Buddhism, we, we don't have any clergy. It's just lay people like me. So we have a community center, two blocks away from me. Yay. It's great to have it there. So I have been, uh, I was raised Protestant. my mother said, you know, I want you to go to church and for Sunday school, because I want you to know what religion is, but if, if at some time, a time you want to quit, just, you know, that's fine with me. So I thought that was very interesting. And so I did quit when I was 14 and I did spend some time, like a lot of us did when, of my generation, when we were young, it was, I was looking for answers.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2602.0,2654.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: And, so I looked at a bunch of different religions and then I gradually gave up. And then, I was introduced to Nichiren Buddhism when I was living in Boston. I've been practicing it now for over 36 years. I find it be so helpful in so many ways. The main part of our practice is, to chant the words nam-myoho-renge-kyo. And there's an explanation behind that. And, we don't chat to a God outside of ourselves. We're bringing out our highest potential. we chant with our eyes open. And once you get used to saying, nam-myoho-renge-kyo, you can put a prayer out to the universe while you're chanting. And, you don't have to repeat it. You just say, I need to have this. So I've used that a lot in bringing about the victories in our building. you know, like, I don't know how much detail to get into, but, every time that we've had, Oh, even just like hiring a new super, you may remember we had this old super Kenny - He was very problematic in a lot of ways and we needed to find a new one. And so I just chanted nam-myoho-renge-kyo, we're going to find the best super. And we got Ed who is a total treasure. So now I have to do that because Patricio is retiring our Porter.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2654.0,2740.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Okay.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2740.0,2740.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: He's in two weeks. He's, he's gone on March 31st. If you know anybody who wants to be a Porter here, I mean, he's been fantastic. So now that's one of the things I'm chanting for.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2740.0,2754.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: All right. Before we move on, is there anything you'd like to add?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2754.0,2759.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Yeah. I'd like to tell you about, um, why my mother grew up bilingual. 'Cause it's an interesting, yes. Okay. So my mother's parents came here in the 1800s, came to the U S from Toisan. So twice on, you know, are, are so many of, most of the, Chinese who were in Chinatown when I was growing up who are from Toisan on or, or, uh, I don't know what to call it now, Canton, Guangzhou. so, they settled in New Orleans. They had a restaurant and they had 10 children, because they were always working in the restaurant, they didn't see their kids very much, which is common I know for restaurant workers and my grandmother was in the middle of the 10 kids age-wise. And one day her parents came home and said, \"We're going back to China, any of you kids who want to come with us, you can come. If you want to stay here, you're on your own. And I would imagine they gave the kids some money, but I never got that detail, because I was told this story when I was a kid. And I wasn't thinking about money. My grandmother decided to stay here. She was the oldest of the ones who stayed here. And she always used to tell us, I raised my younger sisters and brothers. So she was 15 at the time and she raised them. She would get them dressed for school and feed them and all that stuff. And so then when she was 19, she had finished high school and she decided that she wanted to go visit China.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2759.0,2861.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: She did not speak any Chinese at all. And never really tried. I mean, when I knew her, her Chinese was non-existent. So she was very daring. She got a job as the secretary to a YMCA executive who was going to be working in Shanghai. So she got on the boat to go to Shanghai. And at that time it was a month long trip across the Pacific. On the boat was this handsome Chinese man who had just finished his college studies in the US. He spoke fluent English. He was wearing a white linen suit and a Panama hat and carrying a walking stick. I have a picture of him wearing that get up. They fell in love with each other on the boat. And when they got to Shanghai, they got married.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2861.0,2921.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: So romatic.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2921.0,2923.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: I know, except it didn't last.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2923.0,2928.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: She ended up divorcing him, which was really like unheard of at the time. But, yeah, they didn't get along, but they had my mother. And, um, so because my grandmother never learned Chinese and her husband spoke perfect English. They, they spoke English to each other and my mother grew up in a bilingual household. Yeah. So her English was like mine, but she also spoke Chinese because she grew up in Shanghai. And, uh, every summer she would go to Beijing to spend the summer with relatives. And so her Mandarin was also excellent. so, so yeah, when, when she came to the US, after graduating from college, she got her first job at the United Nations. She worked at the reception desk, information desk, because nobody knew what the UN was at that time. Now they probably go to the information desk and they say like, where's the ladies room. But at that time, people wanted to know all kinds of things. Like, what does the UN do? It was brand new. So, because she was bilingual and also very good looking, I'll text you her photo later. she got this job and, she and the other ladies at the information desk kept a, journal, a notebook of all the weird questions people would ask. So one lady one day came up to them and said, do you hold dances here? I like foreign men.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=2928.0,3022.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: I like foreign men. That's what this, so I have, I have that notebook and I'm going to include pages of it in my book.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=3022.0,3034.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Excellent. That's great. Well, thank you so much.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=3034.0,3043.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Thank you - This has been fun.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=3043.0,3045.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: I really enjoy your stories. And I learned a lot. I learned a lot. Um, yeah. Okay.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=3045.0,3055.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nFlorence Chien: Thank you for asking me. This has been a pleasure.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=3055.0,3058.0"},{"id":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861/transcript/29098/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nSilin Yang: Yes. Pleasure is all mine. I'll talk to you later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://queenslibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/21/collection_resources/43800/file/116861#t=3058.0,3066.32"}]}]}]}